Jehovah's Witnesses Straight Talk - Forum/Blog

Rom.8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

We cannot be debtors to our fallen flesh, because the life force of Jesus Christ in us has killed the law against our sinful flesh, for us to live in Christ Jesus the sins of our flesh must die. Here we must understand two things to get it correct. 1.) One, Christ Jesus killed the power of God's righteous law convicting us of sin, and 2.) Two, it is the minding of our sinful flesh that kills the Spirit of Christ in us.

The two are different, and we must not confused them as Christian's or we distorted the rest of God's word. One is the Old Law given to Moses, Jesus completed and killed in his life blood, that is, it power over us as Christian's, condemning us. The other which Paul speak to here in this verse is our own judgment(s) by sins law, those sins we created by our own thoughts, and actions.

It is these judgments by sins law that now kill us, but how? They kill us too the life of Christ dwelling in us. It is these sinful thoughts that Christ will also bring into submission on every level that we might live in eternal life. It is these personal judgment(s) we collect as humans from training on all levels that kill our life in Christ Jesus. We are then rightfully being judged by our own thoughts, and not the Old Law, where these thought are self-inflicted discipline we are force into fruits of Christ Jesus.

2 Corinthians 12:9 He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Most gladly therefore I will rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest on me.

1 Corinthians 6:12 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are expedient. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be brought under the power of anything.

Many Christian's have been turned away from the love of Christ because they received disciplined based upon the doctrine of a group. But in this discipline God's love, yes. He is allowing removal of those sinful dead works, where we experience the fruitage of false doctrine, and there eternal harm they have done to the human race, and our own ways.

Because these dead works are often taught us by parents, and others that we cherish, we blame God, but they were never saying of life founded upon the tree of life. If our God does not allow for this process, we can never live in truth, or love, and find Him.