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Matt.6:14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

How can we truly forgive men their trespasses against us? We cannot, if we seek the truth of our sinful condition? We are not a god that is benevolent forgiving others from our hearts. We forgive in degrees of our fleshly mind as the offender slowly gains our trust at some point in the future perhaps years!

But those in the Christ, that is, whom have the indwelling of his life in them by his earned righteousness in obeying the laws of his Father perfectly, can forgive others debts, why? Because they live by the Spirit life of Christ Jesus that gives to gain. In other words, the flesh loses something in giving, but the Spirit gains fruit of Holy Spirit in giving. The two are opposed, one is a taker, and the other a giver gaining life, one is under the laws of the flesh, while the Spirit is under the law of love.

The flesh must be dead to live in Spirit, and vise a verse, the Spirit is killed by the laws of our fleshly mind. So what was Christ teaching here in forgiving? What he was not teaching, was that a fleshly minded person could make themselves forgive, and this trying in their flesh made them righteous, no!

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Christ was not speaking about the will of our flesh at all! What he was speaking would separate the wheat from the weeds in truth and Spirit. That which would require his righteous life in us to forgive as he forgives. Hence, by his will in us producing fruits of Holy Spirit. Those loving this truth would become part of his spirit body members where the head of the body forgives, and the hand, or the foot follows the natural will of the mind of the body of Christ.

Here than is the stumbling block for those in a legal mind set upon self-rightness in obeying rules of laws that do no more than condemned us in needing the Christ. One either accepts the Christ completely, putting away their own righteousness as a sinner, or they build themselves up in the eyes of flesh in acting like they can be a god in forgiving others like God forgives us freely. One is a lie, while the other is the truth!

John 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us the sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

See also: nu-truth.com