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Rom.11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

The rock-mass of offense, nothing is more offensive to the legal minded Jew, or Christian's than grace! Grace, or unmerited kindness, because nothing in their world is free, without merit by the worth they prove themselves with, even their religion. Unmerited kindness cannot be in the flesh, the fleshly minded world is set up by laws of our flesh to earn our way into heaven and/or paradise with God.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

Such evil struggles upon earth has proved to be the undoing of Christian's and Jews alike for thousand's of years, creating a massive lump of yeast merit teachings to climb the ladder of Jacob into the heavens by works of law. Please note here the sinful flesh will acknowledge the word unmerited kindness or grace, but its fleshly heart rejects trusting in it.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

This is the point of Paul's words, found every where within the written word of God, either you earn your way into life, by your good works, and/or you accept undeserved kindness of God? Legally law bound Jews could not get it after thousand's of years of works of law, Christian's don't get it when educated into a religion that determines everything one does by how much performance you give to their religion.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace.

God's works are Jesus Christ, Christ works are his Fathers, these are the works of God, which are good fruit, we are imputed these works because God is love, and we are not! This is why Christ could say a good tree (Christ Jesus) cannot bear bad fruit, no human can make that statement truthfully about themselves. Hence, than Christ said: “a corrupt tree cannot produce good fruit”.

So how do we get from point (Z), a corrupt tree, which are all humans under Adams sin to point (A )? That is, not having sin as a good tree? Hence, we have no good fruit because of our sin, subsequently, we have no good works like the tree of life! God must give us a good tree like he did Adam and Eve (the tree of life), and he must do the good works for us, as He has done by His Son Christ Jesus, God's own works without sin, than God must give us a gift of His love, something that is undeserved, now we are at point (A), by what? No merit of our own!

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

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