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John15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.

How had the apostles Christ was speaking too here been pruned clean? First let us get in context Christ words spoken here. 1.) the apostles had not yet been anointed by God's Holy Spirit at this point. 2.) Moreover, once anointed by God's Holy Spirit after Christ death, and resurrection they immediately transformed from immature fleshly followers into mature spirit anointed pillars of the new formed Christian's congregation.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

So what was their pruning clean? Christ teaching them God's purposes for the Son of Man, going from Old Law into a New Covenant by being anointed by Holy Spirit which grafted them into Christ Jesus the tree/vine the life of the vine! The pruning was Christ teachings under the law removing dead wood, limbs cleaning them for the grafting, clearing the way to enter into a radical change of the New Covenant from the Old covenant. Going from a sight worship at a physical temple, into a faith worship, in unseen spiritual temple their reality, now in heaven by, faith.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

Without this pruning by Christ they would not have been prepared as being made apart of God's greater spiritual temple, making them God's resting place for His Holy name, in a spiritual temple represented by men and woman in their flesh as ambassadors to God invisible spiritual Kingdom. A Jew could not have imagine such a thing, such thinking was crazy, and apostasy, making no sense, from a demon possessed person after worshiping thousand''s of years at God's physical temple by sight and works of in Jerusalem.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.

Once made a part of the spiritual vine, by anointing of God's Holy Spirit these new person, who have been made new by Christ life indwelling them are branches on the tree. Being such, Christ Jesus life sanctifying them flowing into the branches of this vine. Hence, declaring them righteous before God. Now once in the vine there was no other life outside this life force in the vine for them, certainly not from the Old Law, the old person was dead under condemnation of sins laws it did not produce eternal life by it vine/tree. Such laws and/or person are dead in Christ, freed from God's wrath/judgment now ready to produce fruits not of works of law, but instead fruits of Holy Spirit these fruits having no laws of the flesh against them. This fruit would not be their fruit, it was fruit not under the law practiced in the life found in the tree of death and condemnation under the vine of the Old Law, no!

Rom.7:2 For the woman that has a husband is bound by law to the husband while he lives, but if the husband dies, she is discharged from the law of the husband. 7:3 So then if, while the husband lives, she is joined to another man, she would be called an adulteress. But if the husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she is joined to another man. 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God. 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

They were now under a new and better headship, the Law headship died with Christ, but these branches were made alive under the headship of Christ, God's new spiritual temple, where eternal life is found. Eternal life is not found upon earth, and is not created by human hands, under sins laws/works of law, but rather in heaven, created for God's glory, free from the corruption of sin and its laws. Hence, these branches are able to produce heavenly fruit, by the law of the new covenant, love, the law of Christ Jesus. Now they must worship not by sight, that is, by works of law, but in Spirit and truth, such is not found in any human organization upon earth for all men are liars as spoken by God's Holy Spirit, dying in the filth of their own flesh unable to put it away by some good work.

Matt. 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

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