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Rom.11:28 Concerning the Good News, they are enemies for your sake. But concerning the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sake. 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 11:30 For as you in time past were disobedient to God, but now have obtained mercy by their disobedience, 11:31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that by the mercy shown to you they may also obtain mercy. 11:32 For God has shut up all to disobedience, that he might have mercy on all.

When the human race fell into sin from Adam it was not a class of people, it was individually first, and than the rest of us born into sin from Adam's choice, and his wife's choice. Later God dealt with a nation of people, Israel, from a class stand point legally, but also from individual stand point. This is why we find some of God people receiving different individual judgments by God, such as David, and than some receiving a class judgment.

But redemption into eternal life will be from an individual judgment were each of us stand before the throne of Christ, through a resurrections, a resurrections either into judgment, or one into life, yet, future. Israel as a nation, or a class failed in faith towards Christ Jesus God's own Son, but some individual within that class of people did not fail. The same can be said of any nation upon earth, some individual within a nation may or may not accept the Christ.

Romans 10:13 For, "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved."{Joel 2:32}

Hence, the disobedience of Israel as class under the old law allowed for individual Gentles to be grafted into the holy roots stock of Israel God's chosen people. God had promised Abraham that his seed would be His chosen people, that promise was irrevocable, but not who would individual make up that chosen spiritual nations of Kings and priest. God did not take good and bad yeast/unleavened bread mixing them together to complete a number in order to save all Israel, no! God did as He always has done, and will do, in allowing each person by faith to be saved.

Legally God dealt with Israel as a class by the Old Law, However, individually he deals with us by the new covenant the law of love, which is the law of Christ. Hence, God deals with each of us individually by our faith under the law of Christ. Subsequently, as a class legally Israel was disobedient to God, whereas, individually many by their faith showed love of Christ Jesus - being saved as Abraham's seed. Abraham's seed was created through Abraham's faith, and not law! Thus, Abraham's promise was given too him by his individual faith, completing the full number of spiritual Israel. Abraham's faith rejected all human laws, in offering up his son too God for a sacrificial lamb.

Now we must separated Paul's words here from the law, into the New Covenant by faith, which is an act of faith, in the law of Christ. Once a Christian's does that Paul's words written above become truth to them. Which truth is, individually any person born Jew, or Gentile whom puts faith in God can be Abraham seed, and will be saved in Christ; not being saved in the law, as class of people, but by faith by God's love.

Both Jew and Gentle have been shut up into disobedience, by the Old Law, and/or the laws of the flesh, i.e., the nations. None can save themselves through works of law in pleasing God. Each person must put faith in Christ life as him being good enough God means of salvation; accepting Christ as God's pass-over lamb, substituting his righteousness life for our unrighteous disobedient life, deserving of death, because we cannot be obedient enough through our own good works by laws of our flesh, and/or the Old law. Instead we must become a spiritual person by faith under Christ headship through the spiritual law of love.

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

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