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Matt.18:15 "If your brother sins against you, go, show him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained back your brother. 18:16 But if he doesn't listen, take one or two more with you, that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.{Deuteronomy 19:15} 18:17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the assembly. If he refuses to hear the assembly also, let him be to you as a Gentile or a tax collector.

Massive institutions of religion have been built and sustain on Christ words here. Many modern day Christian's feel full confident in using Christ words above to convicted a brother or sisters of certain wicked acts thinking they have done God's will by using Christ policy, but still there are some question we must answer. One, are Christian's under the law, and two, although, we want back up can we bring parts of the law into the new covenant when we deem it convenient?

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

Romans 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

No! we can't, when a person reads in context the whole chapter eighteen of Matthews letter they would know Christ was teaching about the procedure under the old law where he later speak about forgiveness under a new covenant, which he implies endless times we must forgive our brother if he ask us. But still there is far more compelling reason to perhaps rethink our understanding of Christ thought here? Often Christ was approached on the three witness testimony by his opposers, shocking them he stated his testimony was truth because he had the Father and Holy Spirit as he witnesses to convict a person of unrighteousness, which also gave truthful testimony to his own works. He did not need three human witnesses in he flesh to convict someone of sin or wrong doing.

John 5:31 "If I testify about myself, my witness is not valid.
5:32 It is another who testifies about me. I know that the testimony which he testifies about me is true. 5:33 You have sent to John, and he has testified to the truth. 5:34 But the testimony which I receive is not from man. However, I say these things that you may be saved. 5:35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing to rejoice for a while in his light. 5:36 But the testimony which I have is greater than that of John, for the works which the Father gave me to accomplish, the very works that I do, testify about me, that the Father has sent me. 5:37 The Father himself, who sent me, has testified about me. You have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form.

Later his disciples would become his brothers by the same testimony of Holy Spirit each one would have the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit bearing witnesses in them as truth, would they need to revert to the law in order to establish a conviction of wrong doing? No! Which was proven by Ananias and Sapphira whom lied to Peter and upon speaking falsely both dropped over dead for lying to Holy Spirit.

Acts 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira, his wife, sold a possession,

Moreover, we don't see any of the apostles using Christ words here in their writings to establish legal matters with false brothers, or sisters, or in convicting a person of wrong doing, what we see is a dynamic group lead by Holy Spirit having the testimony of truth in them by Holy Spirit making it no small matter to bring accusation against God's Holy ones. On the others hand, where Holy Spirit testifies to an evil those with truth must speak, or themselves grieve God's Holy Spirit finding themselves denying the witnesses of truth in them.

Rom. 8:31 What then shall we say about these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 8:32 He who didn't spare his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how would he not also with him freely give us all things? 8:33 Who could bring a charge against God's chosen ones? It is God who justifies. 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, yes rather, who was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

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