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Rom. 6:8 But if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him; 6:9 knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!
6:10 For the death that he died, he died to sin one time; but the life that he lives, he lives to God. 6:11 Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 6:12 Therefore don't let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. 6:13 Neither present your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God, as alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 6:14 For sin will not have dominion over you. For you are not under law, but under grace.

Let those reading the book of Romans remember context of the time and why it was written by the apostle Paul. The reason for the book of Roman's was to teach Christian''s the importance of not going back to the Law that they were under grace and not sin, but how could the law be sin when it was righteous and good? Here than is why the book of Roman's was written because that is precisely human thinking, which is?

Romans 2:20 a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of babies, having in the law the form of knowledge and of the truth.

Romans 2:23 You who glory in the law, through your disobedience of the law do you dishonor God?

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Human believe if something is good, and righteous, and we as human use it, it makes us good and righteous. The law certainly was good and righteous, it was perfect, written by God's finger, but human are not? The fatal mistake the Jews made, and many Christian's is in thinking they can remove sin by laws, hence Paul's argument in the book of Roman's.

Rom.7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? May it never be! However, I wouldn't have known sin, except through the law. For I wouldn't have known coveting, unless the law had said, "You shall not covet."{Exodus 20:17; Deuteronomy 5:21} 7:8 But sin, finding occasion through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of coveting. For apart from the law, sin is dead.

Romans 7:12 Therefore the law indeed is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good.

Romans 7:21 I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present.

Rom.7:13 Did then that which is good become death to me? May it never be! But sin, that it might be shown to be sin, by working death to me through that which is good; that through the commandment sin might become exceeding sinful. 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin.

Each human has sin, they have the thinking of sin, which is a filth of our flesh, they cannot put it away by using more righteous laws. Let no Christian's be fooled here, sin is atone for, not worked to get read of by application of more laws created for the wicked. Either human are good without sin, and the law declare them righteous, and/or they are sinner and the law condemns them as a sinner needing forgiveness, redemption, a purchase from their sin by blood, but not both at the same time!

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Thus, Christ died once for all times for our sins purchasing us, removing our sins under law, how? Simply put, he fulfilled the law, setting aside its judgment of our sins of our flesh, this is Paul's argument, nothing more. Each child of God was put to death in Christ and raised in Christ, Christ has no flesh or sin, Christian's in Christ are in the same spirit state as Christ in God's eyes, why than go back to an instrument that only did one thing condemn a person in their flesh? Why? Sadly, for self-righteousness, feeling good about a person worth that they can stand on their own merit before God, how? By works of law, by works under laws that condemn sin, gaining merit in their judgment of themselves on how they meet those laws as good or evil.

1Tim.1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

1Cor. 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self. 4:4 For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord. 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"} 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

But Paul argues your not under works of law, but grace, why? Because a Christian's cannot earn grace, lets say that one more time, we cannot earn unmerited kindness, which is, undeserved kindness, it cannot be earned by human merit, that is, doing some good work according to laws to gain merit with God, which laws no longer exist in Christ, what laws? The laws controlling that which is wicked in each humans, sins laws. The Jews could not earn life under the old Law by works of law either, they must atone for their sins, putting faith in the blood, not themselves. Now the question is posed, but if we do not condemn the sins of the flesh, by righteous laws, won't that give us an excuse to just sin in our flesh, such human reasoning!

Galatians 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, why do you turn back again to the weak and miserable elemental principles, to which you desire to be in bondage all over again?

2 Corinthians 13:4 For he was crucified through weakness, yet he lives through the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we will live with him through the power of God toward you.

1 Peter 1:5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Is Christ weak for righteousness by faith? No! Christ is not weak, human in their sinful flesh are weak, but not Christ? Has not Christ become our righteousness, is that such a little thing? Is God our Father so uninvolved in his children spiritual lives that Christ righteousness working through them is less than the law righteous? Does being apart of the body of Christ mean so little that we would trade laws righteousness for the Christ righteousness? Here is where those not in Christ go wrong they assume Christ is inactive in members of his own body whom are loved and cherish. Can you imagine such a thing as this? That we as human in the flesh will not let apart of our own body become infected with disease without using all that in the body and outside of the body to cure it. Are we saying those belonging to Christ whom are in Christ who is righteous, and has become our righteousness, is going to just let his an member of his own body be cut off without a fight?

Hebrews 2:14 Since then the children have shared in flesh and blood, he also himself in like manner partook of the same, that through death he might bring to nothing him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,

Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

Hebrews 1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

1Cor.1:29 that no flesh should boast before God.
1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1:31 that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24}

Law cuts people off, it deals with it enemies in one way, do it according to the law or be cut off. Apply the law evenly so one does not need a conscious over the matter, the laws rightness in our conscious it choose for us, we are relived of mercy or goodness, why? Because the law is greater than the person, or their life, you bend it for one you bend it for all, right? Unfortunately, and unwittingly a yes to that question has just condemned us into death! Now in that yes we are truthful, but condemned into death by law, so what do you and I need? Undeserved kindness, because we are sinner that what the law proved, our mouths are shut we cannot justify ourselves as a sinner we stand condemned, by the law judgment without mercy. Either God shows us undeserved kindness in giving us his Son life (blood) or we die in ours sins, because we can never work our way out of our sins without unmerited kindness from God. We must trust in faith, in the merit of Christ life imputed too us in bring us to righteousness, sanctification, through the wisdom of God, by faith, or we cannot get there by our will in works, our works, we cannot put away the filth of our own flesh without the merit of Christ given us freely by God's own love.

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

1 John 3:5 You know that he was revealed to take away our sins, and in him is no sin.

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