Jehovah's Witnesses Straight Talk - Forum/Blog

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

The apostle Paul now states the bottom line, he is proven to be by God's righteous law a wretched man! The answer is not what he wanted he would rather prove himself righteous by meeting the laws demands, which he loved, but truth is, the law cannot be meant by Paul a sinner.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law, and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

To make matter worst the power of sin is the law! In other words, the greater the effort to obey the law perfectly the greater the sin was found in Paul. When perfection examines imperfection it can only expose flaws in the object, in this case the apostle Paul. Paul now finds himself in truth, not what he wanted to believe about his good feelings towards God. But rather nothing good dwelt in his flesh, and because of that he was wretch, he could not even change himself enough to fix the problem, he was dead to God by all righteous judgment of the law.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

Paul stood condemned on every point! Here many Christian's in our times and Paul's time find themselves not fully grasping what Paul was speaking about under the power of Holy Spirit. They simply don't get it? Why was Paul being so negative about himself, didn't he know God loved him? Hadn't Christ himself converted Paul? But that's not the point of Paul's words here, or why the letter of Roman's was written!

Romans 11:14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh, and may save some of them.

1 Corinthians 3:3 for you are still fleshly. For insofar as there is jealousy, strife, and factions among you, aren't you fleshly, and don't you walk in the ways of men?

Do you understand that the entire nation of Israel failed in understanding what Paul wrote here? Yes! Only a small group were saved out of Israel after thousand's of years of training and education by God's law. How shocking! There was nothing more powerful in mankind's life than God's law, nothing could be more perfect to bring mankind up in moral, health, power than God's law, it was superior compared to any laws of the nations. But still Israel failed, and now many of God's anointed at Paul's times were also failing, those freed from the judgment of the law by failing to understand one thing, do we understand what that is?

Rom.9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness. 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone; 9:33 even as it is written, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and a rock of offense; and no one who believes in him will be disappointed."{Isaiah 8:14; 28:16}

The law failed mankind, why? Because it was not the law of God, it was a law punishing the sins of the flesh created for the wicked not the righteous. God's law for the righteous is the law love God is but one law, the Royal law, love, without judgment of sins of the flesh. Love cannot fail, because God is love, and he can't fail! Israel, and some of God's children, his anointed, are proving themselves righteous by trying to keep the law, impossible! Did they not see the blood of an innocent victim, millions of animals slaughter over the years upon God's altar, how could one miss the witnesses of blood? Now Christian's themselves purchased by the precious blood of the pass-over-lamb, Christ Jesus, were trying to prove themselves righteous by meeting laws for sin, how shocking!

1Tim. 1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

Hebrews 9:22 According to the law, nearly everything is cleansed with blood, and apart from shedding of blood there is no remission.

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Hebrews 7:28 For the law appoints men as high priests who have weakness, but the word of the oath which came after the law appoints a Son forever who has been perfected.

Blood made all Israel righteous, not works of law, did they not know the law was unlawful without the blood atoning sins for them against God's law. Do Christian's not know they have no standing, no law, no hope without Christ righteousness? No! Sadly many do not, they are convincing themselves, their good works towards God is righteousness, as if they had a self-righteousness gained by something they produced from their own efforts, how have they gotten onto the wide road leading into destruction?

Ephesians 2:9 not of works, that no one would boast.

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. For it is written, "Cursed is everyone who doesn't continue in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them."{Deuteronomy 27:26}

How could they be so blinded that Paul had to speak so bluntly here in Roman's the seventh chapter to offend, even incite hate and jealousy for Christian's and Jew's alike? Simply put, it is the nature of sin to prove itself righteous, to make itself look better, to brag and boast about some good thing we have done. To state, as Paul did not one good thing is found in his flesh, insults anyone that is proud of themselves in their flesh, does it not? It kills any hope for reformation of their flesh, does it not? Paul words here puts all hope for any salvation squarely in God's hands, mankind or individual cannot deliver themselves by some good work done in their flesh upon this earth, how shocking!

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

This is why Paul words are still hated; Christianity is about in our world making one better in the flesh redeeming it into an acceptable person upon earth, by works of religion, which brag about it wonderful works, selling itself to other person in the flesh. God does change people with his Holy Spirit, he does make us better parents, better workers, better people, but that not the point of redeeming us. He does these things for his Kingdom, not the worlds kingdoms, Christ Kingdom is not part of this world.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My Kingdom is not of this world. If my Kingdom were of this world, then my servants would fight, that I wouldn't be delivered to the Jews. But now my Kingdom is not from here."

1 John 3:13 Don't be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.

Here Christian's at Paul time wanted more than the law of love, they needed laws to build upon like the world for position and power, which Christ stripped from the congregation of God by his resurrection into the power and image of God. He took the laws of the flesh, and killed them, he than put his body members under the law of love, which has no power in this world. One has to be ruthless to build an empire, even a religious empire requiring strong leadership laws condemning others of not obeying the rule of those in power. One must have a hierarchy of power by position for the flesh to lust for and climb the ladder of success, holding out honor and glory for those doing works of law to gain a high position above others.

Col.2:13 You were dead through your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh. He made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 2:14 wiping out the handwriting in ordinances which was against us; and he has taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross; 2:15 having stripped the principalities and the powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in eating, or in drinking, or with respect to a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day, 2:17 which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ's.

Eph.1:19 and what is the exceeding greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to that working of the strength of his might
1:20 which he worked in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, 1:21 far above all rule, and authority, and power, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come. 1:22 He put all things in subjection under his feet, and gave him to be head over all things for the assembly, 1:23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.

None of this impossible in the law of love, it is powerless to taking rights and position. The law of love says God gives gifts freely, so one cannot earn them, love says this: “I am a body member, placed in the body for God's glory, by nothing I have done, but God has chose to do. I accept that position resting in it because that is precisely what God created me to do as a gift to other body members. I give all glory to none other but God, because I was created for his glory.”

Ephesians 4:8 Therefore he says, "When he ascended on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men."{Psalm 68:18}

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

This truth Paul speaks here is painful for many stripping them of godship in their flesh, and boasting in their flesh, just as our world practices from its creation by the Devil's lie stealing glory, power, and position that God rightly gives too humans by gifts of his love, not competition in dog-eat-dog tactic the world uses and was created from.

James 3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic. 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.

When Christian's and Jews alike understand the power of the witnessed of blood, in putting their feet aright before God by his undeserved kindness, the power of Christ blood will bring them to the hope and peace which comes from resting in Christ righteousness as their merit, their life, and foundation that cannot be shaken by corrupt men and their creation of religion, government, and commerce by laws of sin!

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

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