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Col.2:20 If you died with Christ from the elements of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to ordinances, 2:21 "Don't handle, nor taste, nor touch"
2:22 (all of which perish with use), according to the precepts and doctrines of men? 2:23 Which things indeed appear like wisdom in self-imposed worship, and humility, and severity to the body; but aren't of any value against the indulgence of the flesh.

What are the elements of our world? Moreover, why did the apostle Paul speak of elements of the world, aren't elements the basic building blocks of everything created? Did God created the world, and the things in it? No he did not!

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him. 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's. 2:17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

Man world was created from the elements of mankind's brain, a brain of the flesh under sin alienated from God's elements created by his mind from Spirit and truth. Shouldn't every honest person professing to be a Christian's know this simple truth of the very elements they were delivered from, by the power of God in Christ Jesus? Sadly, most don't know the truth of these elements, which God will expose in each one of us, causing at some point the enter system of things mankind has created to collapse into dust a humiliated position where it belongs before the Christ.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellence of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Ephesians 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Mankind's mind builds all things from death, which are the laws that governs their world from death laws. The mind of man cannot make a person a non-sinner required for eternal life. Yes, one has to be sinless to have eternal life. Thus, all mankind's laws are futile, basic truth, this is how the whole creation was subjected to futility and death, this is why the whole creation groans in death for the freedom in God's children, whom will set it free, but how? By the very point Paul is making here, which is what?

Rom.8:20 For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 8:21 that the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of decay into the liberty of the glory of the children of God. 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Why were these brothers and sister applying laws of sin and death to a body of eternal life, that is, Christ whom they had become a part of? Why would they subject life to death for what good reason? It certainly was not the mind of God, found in Christ, it death and its laws would be from the mind of their flesh, which build a system of corruption and death! How could meeting laws that condemn sin of the wicked make them any more alive in Christ their eternal life indwelling by God's Holy Spirit?

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

The power of the flesh is by it looking righteous instead of being righteous by the life of Christ indwelling us! Does that shock you as a Christian's, will it should not only shock us, but sober us up to true righteousness! Humility of the flesh means nothing to Christ, he is not of the flesh any more, we know him so no more, or any man that way any longer. Humility of the flesh is under death and its laws, it is the act of all fallen flesh in sin which is called a liar to truth, which does not put on an act in the flesh to please other humans.

The sinful flesh is dead in Christ of no value at all for eternal life, subjecting the flesh to harsh treatment by laws of a religion does not make it righteous or without the filth of the flesh, what were these so called children of God thinking let alone teaching?

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

Why obey rules and laws of a religion to make a pleasing showing in our flesh? That is a real concern if a person has the Spirit of God with no false front? Now if one does it for the conscience of the weak, so they can teach them the truth of Spirit, perhaps? But if we do so coming under enslavement of sin again when we are freed in the eternal life of Christ without sin; let our religion not fool us by our own illustrator thoughts coming from our mouth we cannot bridal from teaching and speaking flesh and its elemental corruption created from death as a good motive, in something we lust for because we are afraid in our flesh in losing something we want to hang onto; justifying it with a noble causes.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.
1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.
1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger;
1:20 for the anger of man doesn't produce the righteousness of God.
1:21 Therefore, putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with humility the implanted word, which is able to save your souls{or, preserve your life.}. 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not only hearers, deluding your own selves. 1:23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror; 1:24 for he sees himself, and goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does. 1:26 If anyone among you thinks himself to be religious while he doesn't bridle his tongue, but deceives his heart, this man's religion is worthless. 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

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