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Rom.8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which will be revealed toward us.

Here the apostle Paul starts bring his argument about the Spirit and flesh to a conclusion. Why such a demarcation discussed between flesh and Spirit? Why is it the flesh lust against the Spirit? Why can they not be at peace with each other? Moreover, what is God's purposes in letting this war continue for thousand's of years of tribulation for his temple class on earth still in the flesh?

Isaiah 53:11 After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light{So read the Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint. Masoretic Text omits "the light".} and be satisfied. My righteous servant will justify many by the knowledge of himself; and he will bear their iniquities.

Romans 5:3 Not only this, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering works perseverance;

Let us be mindful as Christian's that it is the flesh that must die, it is the flesh that cannot be reformed into a better fleshly minded person, let us clearly understand as hard as it may be that corruption cannot inherit incorruptibility. That it is our flesh under sin that perfects our spirit in God's love how by suffering with its lust against the Spirit of God in us.

James 5:10 Take, brothers, for an example of suffering and of patience, the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord.

Some may conclude this suffering is common to all mankind, but is it? Not according to Paul writings, it is a truth of God's anointed, but why? Simply, put, they are the temple of the living God on earth in their fallen flesh. Can God's Spirit be in sinful flesh without a war? Can God's Spirit dwell anywhere in this world of darkness that wicked spirit force are not attacking?

2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we don't wage war according to the flesh; 10:4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the throwing down of strongholds.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

Let us not be fooled here thinking that what God has predestined to set creation free is not happening every day for two thousand's years upon this earth because certainly the wicked spirit believe and shutter! The center of all controversy on earth and in heaven rest in God's temple the center of his power and glory towards mankind's hope. Let none of God's children think what God has planted in them by seed of incorruptibility is normal, mundane Christian's life like the field of weeds that they coexist in presently.

2 Chronicles 29:16 The priests went in to the inner part of the house of Yahweh, to cleanse it, and brought out all the uncleanness that they found in the temple of Yahweh into the court of the house of Yahweh. The Levites took it, to carry it out abroad to the brook Kidron.

Psalms 11:4 Yahweh is in his holy temple. Yahweh is on his throne in heaven. His eyes observe. His eyes examine the children of men.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?

Paul makes clear in no uncertain terms God's reason for suffering in the flesh for God's anointed, its not optional, nor do we have to look for trouble it is the promise of our anointing that wicked spirit force hate God's Holy Spirit they are set upon destroying God plan in setting His creation free, through the suffering of the new creation, Christ Jesus and us part of him.

Revelation 12:17 The dragon grew angry with the woman, and went away to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep God's commandments and hold Jesus' testimony.

Heb.2:12 saying, "I will declare your name to my brothers. In the midst of the congregation I will sing your praise."{Psalm 22:22}
2:13 Again, "I will put my trust in him."{Isaiah 8:17} Again, "Behold, here I am with the children whom God has given me."{Isaiah 8:18}
2:14 Since then the children have shared in flesh and blood, he also himself in like manner partook of the same, that through death he might bring to nothing him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,
2:15 and might deliver all of them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
2:16 For most certainly, he doesn't give help to angels, but he gives help to the seed of Abraham. 2:17 Therefore he was obligated in all things to be made like his brothers, that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make atonement for the sins of the people. 2:18 For in that he himself has suffered being tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted.

This world and the things of this world will not work for those anointed with God's Spirit, they must have the mind of Christ, arming themselves with the same mental disposition as Christ in humility because the flesh is violent towards us, and it is growing exceedingly so as the days go from bad to worst at Christ coming with his holy angels.

Ephesians 2:2 In which you were living in the past, after the ways of this present world, doing the pleasure of the lord of the power of the air, the spirit who is now working in those who go against the purpose of God;

Jude 1:18 How they said to you, In the last days there will be men who, guided by their evil desires, will make sport of holy things.

2 Timothy 3:1 But be certain of this, that in the last days times of trouble will come.

What is temporarily? All flesh is temporarily, and momentary, what last forever the word of God, which each anointed person has become apart of the Word of God, Christ Jesus. The glory that will be reveal in us has no depth, it is not shallow waters the world knows in fixing the overwhelming problems of mankind. The waters of God get deeper and deeper in Spirit and truth until all things are made new, and righteous flesh will fill this earth, flesh made new, by God creation through suffering in unrighteous flesh!

Isa.40:6 A voice of one saying, Give a cry! And I said, What is my cry to be? All flesh is grass, and all its strength like the flower of the field. 40:7 The grass becomes dry, the flower is dead; because the breath of the Lord goes over it: truly the people is grass. 40:8 The grass is dry, the flower is dead; but the word of our God is eternal.

2 Corinthians 5:17 so that if any one `is' in Christ -- `he is' a new creature; the old things did pass away, lo, become new have the all things.

Revelation 21:5 And he who is seated on the high seat said, See, I make all things new. And he said, Put it in the book; for these words are certain and true.

Revelation 19:1 After these things there came to my ears a sound like the voice of a great band of people in heaven, saying, Praise to the Lord; salvation and glory and power be to our God:

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