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Rom.8:24 For we were saved in hope, but hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for that which he sees? 8:25 But if we hope for that which we don't see, we wait for it with patience.

Jesus stated those born again were like the wind, it blows where its want we can hear its sound, but we don't know where it comes from, or where it is going.

John.3:8 The wind{The same Greek word (pneuma) means wind, breath, and spirit.} blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but don't know where it comes from and where it is going. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

The entire book of Roman is about the operation of the Spirit in us, God's anointed, it is about the destiny of creation itself, it is about hope of a creation subjected to futility by God being set free by a new creation through God's Spirit. Yes, the Spirit is a mystery in the workings of God new creation, it is unseen, unknown to mankind, so those predestined must themselves be subjected to the same futility in their flesh the groaning of the new creation for freedom, freedom of what?

Romans 8:23 Not only so, but ourselves also, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for adoption, the redemption of our body.

2 Corinthians 5:2 For most certainly in this we groan, longing to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven;

The Spirit which is not under the laws of this world. Yes, that is the point, why are brothers and sister forgetting the hope of freedom it is to walk in the flesh by sight? What sight? The sight of all false religion and what is that? Flesh, that which feeds the mind and makes the flesh satisfied, sight worship, institutions, books, building, men of power, laws that can be legislated to punish the flesh getting immediate results, on earth to right the wrongs. Laws to build strong institution so hope can be realized on earth so a person does not have to groan like the creation.

2 Corinthians 5:4 For indeed we who are in this tent do groan, being burdened; not that we desire to be unclothed, but that we desire to be clothed, that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.

2Cor.8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that you through his poverty might become rich.

All creation was subject to this futility and none of wisdom of this world has worked to set mankind free from the corruption of the very thing causing corruption to our minds and hearts. It like going to the doctor for a cure and the doctor gives a person medicine causing the same sickness ending in death it is futility. The hope is not in this world for God's anointed, if they lose the hope they lose patience and find futility with no hope of freedom.

Luke 4:23 He said to them, "Doubtless you will tell me this parable, 'Physician, heal yourself! Whatever we have heard done at Capernaum, do also here in your hometown.'"

2 Corinthians 1:9 Yes, we ourselves have had the sentence of death within ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead.

2 Corinthians 2:16 to the one a stench from death to death; to the other a sweet aroma from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things?

1 Corinthians 15:21 For since death came by man, the resurrection of the dead also came by man.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.

The hope in them is the Spirit, which is at war with flesh, it is a battle that they are predestined to for a purposes, not to fix this world into a better world of slavery to sin and death, but to allow God to free them and its by his working in them. This is not their working individually, it is God's working, in them, for his purposes of setting creation free by his mind, the mind he entrusted to Christ Jesus. The work of God's anointed is waiting upon the completion of God's finishing his temple by his working in the new creation; God's temple, not made by fleshly hands, not seen by creation by sight worship.

Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?

A marvel of endurance by the holy ones, a life long test to live by the law of freedom, love, in a world set upon everything diametrically opposed to the law of freedom. The hope is unseen, it is the Spirit indwelling each of God's anointed that is their truth, which is their hope and comfort in these groaning. To taste that freedom in death, in life, in fights from within and without, we rest in the power of God's Spirit when given, like the wind, we don't know when, or why? But we do know the love, and comfort it brings us in hope of a time when complete freedom will be known from the corruption and fears of this flesh, enslaving all creation by its very thinking!

James 1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does.

James 2:12 So speak, and so do, as men who are to be judged by a law of freedom.

Matt.5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, 5:45 that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust. 5:46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Don't even the tax collectors do the same?

5:47 If you only greet your friends, what more do you do than others? Don't even the tax collectors do the same? 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Colossians 1:11 strengthened with all power, according to the might of his glory, for all endurance and perseverance with joy;

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;