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Made Dead to The Law

Rom.7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

Who do we belong to, Christ or the law? Both have great power because both were created by YHWH; righteous, good, and holy. But is Christ and the law in competition with each other? This is an important question, because in the flesh all things are competition with other flesh? Flesh gains merit by comparing itself against flesh by laws of the flesh this is no exaggeration! Without standards set for the flesh there are no rules to compare oneself against to see if we are better than the next guy? Subsequently, there is no competition without rules for the flesh!

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we are not bold to number or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves. But they themselves, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves with themselves, are without understanding.

The problems exist for God's anointed back then at Paul's time, because they were to compare spiritual things against spiritual things if they wanted to know God without competiion? Not spiritual things against fleshly things to know God? Moreover, their wrestling was not against flesh and blood, but against spirit force, evil spirit beings found in heavenly places, not flesh and blood found the on earth. Now to compound this matter more, they were to know no person by the flesh any longer, not even Christ, which some back then actual knew Christ in his flesh!

1Cor.2:12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God. 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.

2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we don't wage war according to the flesh; 10:4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the throwing down of strongholds.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

So was Christ competing for God's children against the law of God given to Moses? No! Isn't this the whole point of the letter to the Roman's? Christ does not compete with the law, the law is dead, it was made dead by Christ! If the flesh is dead in Christ, then the law obviously is dead in Christ, that is, any law, and all laws dealing with our flesh must also be dead, having no power over those living in heaven, (Spirit) without flesh. So how is flesh going to know God if God has no flesh? The bible tells us, our flesh can't know God, it is impossible, but why? Because no sin dwells in God from the flesh, in YHWH, He is not corrupting into death, from sin of the flesh, he has none of our fears, none of our lust common to all flesh that must be battled against, so how could Christ competed with something that is dead, having no power over us any longer, how foolish is the flesh in comparing fleshly things against spiritual things thinking they have found the truth of God, the Spirit?

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one. 1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death. 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers. 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Romans 1:4 who was declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:9 knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!

Romans 6:11 Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

These brothers and sisters were made alive in Christ not by the power of the flesh, that is, not by the power of the law! The law had no power to make a person alive in Christ, that is, in the Spirit, now did it? It is the power of the Spirit that makes a person alive in the Spirit, life must come from life (Spirit). The law produce death, condemning us as sinner, it was written for sinners it was not written for the righteous made alive by Spirit.

1Tim.1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Romans 8:10 If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness.

Fruits of God (life) do not come from a corrupt tree (death), the flesh cannot produce the works of God, now can it? No! Simply follow the pattern of helpful teaching of Christ and a person can draw no other conclusion! Christ is not competing with the law, we are not made alive in the law, however, when we uses the law to build a religion we plant flesh, and a fleshly religion will pops up dead to God (Spiri). One and one does not equal three, flesh cannot be Spirit, and darkness cannot be light, neither mixs the two cannot make anything but a yeast pie, we can only accept such in our fleshly mind.

Matt.7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. 7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit. 7:19 Every tree that doesn't grow good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. 7:20 Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.

Galatians 5:24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

1 Thessalonians 5:5 You are all children of light, and children of the day. We don't belong to the night, nor to darkness.

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

We belong to Christ because Christ conquered death (sin and its laws), or not? Christ conquered death for us, or not? Did Christ complete the law? The sheer fact these brothers and sisters were anointed proved Christ conquered death of the law once for all times. Now it was time for them sober up to righteousness, not the righteousness of the old law condemning sin, no! But to Christ righteousness, which makes them righteous and alive to the Spirit.

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

2 Corinthians 1:17 When I therefore was thus determined, did I show fickleness? Or the things that I purpose, do I purpose according to the flesh, that with me there should be the "Yes, yes" and the "No, no?"

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.

Romans 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

1 Corinthians 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

Galatians 2:21 I don't make void the grace of God. For if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing!"

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could make alive, most certainly righteousness would have been of the law.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

These brothers and sisters must compare spiritual things with spiritual things by the law of love, the new covenant, which they were made into by Christ righteousness (spirit being). They must stop judging death to death against each other by the law of the dead, for sinners, in Christ. They must stop judging the flesh, God's judgment of dead was finish, completed, put away, in Christ two thousand's years ago. Conversely, those fleshly judgments isthe powerful drug found in all false religion on earth today who are still enslaving their members captive to sins law whic gives power to false religion over the nations, but it is, or should be what God's anointed are freed on?

2 Timothy 4:5 But you be sober in all things, suffer hardship, do the work of an evangelist, and fulfill your ministry.

1 Peter 1:13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action,{literally, "gird up the waist of your mind"} be sober and set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ-

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.
Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

James 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge. 4:12 Only one is the lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge another?

The yeast of corruption causing the growth of false religion is by applying the laws of death to God's anointed, by they themselve teaching from the laws of death, enslaving others into works of law, which is completed, fulfilled, in Christ two thousand's year ago. The food for God's anointed is not food from below in death and corruption from laws for the dead, alienated from the Spirit. The food from above is life, free of corruption, which the world does not know or can know, just as false religion will never know the truth of the Spirit!

1 John 4:5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak of the world, and the world hears them.

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

John 4:10 Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, 'Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh."

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Daniel

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