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Is The Law Sin?

Rom. 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? May it never be! However, I wouldn't have known sin, except through the law. For I wouldn't have known coveting, unless the law had said, "You shall not covet."{Exodus 20:17; Deuteronomy 5:21}

Every good family has the same pattern in common, it is, rules, and laws that build a solid foundation for the children personalities to grow into well adjusted adults.

Where no standards exist accept the moods of the parents children will be plagued by all manner of problems in their adult life.

2 Timothy 1:13 Hold the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Proverbs 25:12 As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover to an obedient ear.

Romans 6:17 But thanks be to God, that, whereas you were bondservants of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching whereunto you were delivered.

Law define for us sins that will cause us problems in life, in a family setting if understood or not, later in life the child will come to understand how the parents simple but firm rules made them into the person they are today. The apostle Paul here makes this simple point, it is a fact of life. If we are raise a law breaker, trouble will follow us all the days of our life.

Proverbs 17:13 Whoever rewards evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house.

But why did Paul need to make this point? Why speak of what is common in all human societies rather a Jew or not, law? In our understanding the book of Roman's and particularly in Roman's chapter seven we must never forget the fundamental building blocks of why Paul wrote the letter: Flesh Vs Spirit! Although, we may understand how rules and laws are essential for life on this earth, the brothers and sisters Paul was speaking to here did not understand what it meant to walk in Spirit.

Romans 12:21 Don't be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Paul defined in no uncertain terms the flesh, the power of the flesh where it comes from, and the condition of the flesh. If a person cannot comes to grips with these basic teaching, they will stay in the primary doctrine of Christ in a state of constant repentance in their flesh.

Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

In other words, the very thing that makes life better on earth for us, so we are not in a state of societal lawlessness did not help the Spirit at all! How could Paul possibly help those loving the law of the Jew's, a very good and powerful law. Yes, a law superior to any nation before or after them? How could something so good for society be bad for those in the Spirit? It simply did not make any sense, how could good now be bad?

Romans 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Romans 10:5 For Moses writes about the righteousness of the law, "The one who does them will live by them."{Leviticus 18:5}

Subsequently, those loving the flesh, that is, walking by sight, not faith cannot grasp how the law (flesh) is against the Spirit. It much like those breaking speed laws, where they push and push the person in front of them keeping the law; getting violently anger with them, until they are stopped by the law. Suddenly, they become a nice law abiding citizen in front of the officers pretending its not a habit of their driving over the speed limit. They believe in the law, they vote people in who uphold the law, so what just happen?

Matt.7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? 7:4 Or how will you tell your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye? 7:5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.

The law told the truth it proved the person a law breaker, and if the person continues to justify their love of the law, while breaking it, they will be found a hypocrite, and if they think their reason for breaking the law is better than others who break the law they have become evil, and will progress into greater evil. A honest person shuts his/her mouth, knowing they are deserving of a whole lot more for breaking the law every day and night going and coming from work!

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Luke.18:10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray; one was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector. 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this: 'God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
18:12 I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all that I get.'
18:13 But the tax collector, standing far away, wouldn't even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."

The power of the law is sin! If a person has no sin, the law has no power over them. If they obey the rule of law, the law cannot convict a person of speeding, the law frees them of wrong doing. God's law was created not for the righteous (without sin), but for the sinner (The unrighteous), if a person be free of sin the law cannot convict the person of being wicked. However, those thinking they don't break the laws by obeying some rule of a religion are liars! Conversely, those thinking they are above the law because of being specially chosen of God are very evil, this is the personality that killed the one non-sinner Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Romans 2:23 You who glory in the law, through your disobedience of the law do you dishonor God?

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

James 2:9 But if you show partiality, you commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors.

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law, and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

So the apostle Paul was up against the power of the flesh, the law, but most missed this point, which is, the law did not justify them as non-sinners it condemned them as wicked not keeping the law. Were they going to live in a pretense of being law keepers or face the truth of all fallen flesh? Were they going to judge, that is, put the law upon their brothers and sisters so they could point out and punish the wickedness in their eye, or judge by the law of free people where they looked into Christ knowing they deserve punishment for their own law breaking, and accept the unmerited kindness of God?

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Romans 7:12 Therefore the law indeed is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good.

2Tim.3:13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

If they saw their flesh as good, better, than a sinner, they would promote the righteousness of the law. A righteousness that only a person without sin could keep, everyone else was breaking the law. However, those in Christ through God's undeserved kindness had their flesh removed (killing the power of judgment in the sinful flesh), thus, the power of the law was dead in them. Where there is no law, neither is their sin. If they wanted to uses the law “lawfully” than they must teach the truth of the law, its power to make us sinners, to convict us of death, not life (but as unrighteous). The wages of sin is death that was the power of the law. Leaving us in death without the power of Spirit to resurrected them into freedom of judgment in Christ!

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death?
7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

Romans 4:24 but for our sake also, to whom it will be accounted, who believe in him who raised Jesus, our Lord, from the dead,

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:9 knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!

Romans 6:11 Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:13 Neither present your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God, as alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.

1Tim.1:6 from which things some, having missed the mark, have turned aside to vain talking; 1:7 desiring to be teachers of the law, though they understand neither what they say, nor about what they strongly affirm. 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man uses it lawfully, 1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

God killed the law, by killing our flesh in Christ, raising us in Spirit to be part of Christ life, a righteous man died for many. The judgment of our flesh is dead, God is not two face, like all flesh is two face. God does not lie or speak two standards of judgments, as we all do, one for family, one for friends, one for our religion, one for those we don't like. In other words, because our flesh still sins, God does not reverse his promise in Christ and removed the law of Christ over us once again returning to the law for sinful flesh.

Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"} 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

Such thinking is unrighteous, and is of the evil found in all flesh, thus found in all religion, in all government, and commerce, in all of Satan world under darkness. God is light, he has no darkness in him of evil, and than good and some teach. Every perfect gift is from above, double standards are from below from unrighteous flesh.

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures. 1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger;

Matt.7:8 For everyone who asks receives. He who seeks finds. To him who knocks it will be opened. 7:9 Or who is there among you, who, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? 7:10 Or if he asks for a fish, who will give him a serpent? 7:11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

1 John 4:19 We love Him, because he first loved us.

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