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Perfected in Him?

1John2:5 But whoever keeps his word, God's love has most certainly been perfected in him. This is how we know that we are in him:

Can we be perfected outside of Christ, not a trick question? In other words, can we be perfected by reading our bibles? Many believe in false religion they can perfect themselves, which seems logical; whoever keeps his word God's love has been perfected in him!

John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 5:24 "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

The next question is? Can we keep God's word without being in him, that is, in Christ? Here is the problem no matter how many time we read God's word if we have been taught works of law by our religion we will translate every thought from our bibles into works of law. Conversely, if we have been taught by the Holy Spirit through Christ Jesus, him being in us, we will translated everything in the Word, Christ Jesus, Christ is the Word of God.

John 5:38 You don't have his word living in you; because you don't believe him whom he sent.

Romans 8:29 For whom he foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."}

1 Corinthians 4:20 For the Kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause we also thank God without ceasing, that, when you received from us the word of the message of God, you accepted it not as the word of men, but, as it is in truth, the word of God, which also works in you who believe.

Do we honestly understand this vast difference? The fleshly mind reads above John's words and first thinks: “If I obey the commandments, that is, the word of God my bible, I will perfect myself because I am proving I love God, by obedience to God's word.”

Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the doctrine of the first principles of Christ, let us press on to perfection--not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works, of faith toward God.

Colossians 3:14 Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection.

2 Corinthians 12:9 He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Most gladly therefore I will rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest on me.

Philippians 3:15 Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, think this way. If in anything you think otherwise, God will also reveal that to you.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

James 1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does.

But the apostle John is not talking to the world, or just anyone, he is speaking point specific to God's children anointed by his Holy Spirit born new in Christ, that is, into his body as member therein, and Christ indwelling us with his own righteous life! In fact, he is not talking about our flesh at all. Those anointed by Holy Spirit knows no person any longer by the flesh, not even Christ Jesus flesh while upon earth. They are a new creation in spirit, made alive in the Spirit of God by Christ own life which is spirit.

John 1:33 I didn't recognize him, but he who sent me to baptize in water, he said to me, 'On whomever you will see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.'

John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Subsequently, God's children cannot be perfected outside of Christ because they have been purchased from earth by God. They don't belong to the world, or to mankind, or their systems of things from religion, government and/or business. The perfecting come from the Word of God, Christ Jesus as part of him, his body members.

John 4:23 But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world can't receive; for it doesn't see him, neither knows him. You know him, for he lives with you, and will be in you.

God's love being perfected in us is that we are “in Christ Jesus” having no sin, subsequently, we have no judgment! Unfortunately, the fleshly mind thinks there is other ways to keep God's word, but there is not! A person with sin cannot keep God's word, plain and simple. Christ died for us, he kept God's word perfectly for us because he did not sin. God's love gives each of us the free gift of his love Christ Jesus and his life, meaning his righteousness indwells us so we are righteous as he is righteous. Now because Christ indwells us, we can keep God's word, not in our own merit but in Christ merit given us undeserved by blotting out our sin forever!

1 John 3:9 Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God.

1 Corinthians 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

If we don't stay in God undeserved kindness, we walk in works of law, we translated every thing from God's word the bible into more works of law. In other words, we make it about our righteousness, and/or human righteousness instead of Christ righteousness that saves us completely. Moreover, this is why there is a clear demarcation between light and darkness, weeds and wheat even though the weeds eat from the same field as do the wheat they are not born of God by Holy Spirit and what they produce is more weed teaching from the flesh. Furthermore, this is why we cannot change another person because we legislated them into a religion that changes and deals only with perfecting the flesh. Yes, those of the flesh read the above words of John and immediately go into working on making their flesh obey, thinking if they can do so, they are perfecting God's love.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

But God is not dealing with his children flesh! The flesh cannot be obedient to God, or his commandments, it cannot wash itself clean by works of law, it cannot give itself eternal life by its own merit. Those belonging to Christ are saved in Christ, they are saved because they have faith in the Spirit which is the truth, the witness of the Spirit given to each child of God as a constant witness that they are in the life of Christ, and he in them. It is the mind of Christ that perfects us in what? Love, so what is love without trust? Hate, fear of judgment!

Romans 13:14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, for its lusts.

Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.

Jude 1:20 But you, beloved, keep building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit.

1 John 5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.

Colossians 2:2 that their hearts may be comforted, they being knit together in love, and gaining all riches of the full assurance of understanding, that they may know the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ.

1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.

1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. He who doesn't love his brother remains in death.

1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God, and knows God.

1 John 4:8 He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

We are perfected in love because there is no judgment in God's love for his Son Christ Jesus which we have been purchased from earth into his eternal life, that is, from our fallen flesh into his eternal life, loved and cherished by God himself. We have been translated into the kingdom of his Son love, from our new birth out of our flesh into Christ seated above in his kingdom which conquered this world by his love for his Father YHWH. We are being perfected in God's love by the mind of our body Christ Jesus so we thinking in a new law of love.

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

1 John 2:20 You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.{Or, "know what is true." Or, "know all things."}

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brothers, rejoice. Be perfected, be comforted, be of the same mind, live in peace, and the God of love and peace will be with you.

1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.
In this, we need no one on this earth to teach us God's love because this world does not know the love of the Father for his children. Hence, it cannot know God's word, it cannot be in God's word, nor understand the truth of the Spirit!

1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: your faith.

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world.

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

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