Jehovah's Witnesses Straight Talk - Forum/Blog

Heb.4:6 Seeing therefore it remains that some should enter therein, and they to whom the good news was before preached failed to enter in because of disobedience, 4:7 he again defines a certain day, today, saying through David so long a time afterward (just as has been said), "Today if you will hear his voice, don't harden your hearts."{Psalm 95:7-8} 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken afterward of another day. 4:9 There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 4:10 For he who has entered into his rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from his.

Before we delve into this subject, a subject that has been covered for some two thousand's years of Christianity lets us ask a simple question? Is God doing a physical work on earth today?

John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world can't receive; for it doesn't see him, neither knows him. You know him, for he lives with you, and will be in you.

Did Christ do a physical work while he was on earth anointed by God in his ministry for three and half years? Did the apostles of Christ build places of worship on earth doing a physical work for God? No! Why is that simple point so missing in all religions today, and for most Christian's since Christ?

John 4:23 But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

Christ did a spiritual work unknown to this world, and his apostles did the same spiritual work, but it was only after the apostles were gone dead Christian's started doing physical works calling them from God! Subsequently, the entire subject of resting from our works can't be understood at all because Christian's today are out and about labeling everything they do as God's works. In other words, they have permeated the kingdom of God with yeast teachings from their flesh in doing physical works boasting in the flesh as if from God!

Matt.7:22 Many will tell me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?' 7:23 Then I will tell them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.' 7:24 "Everyone therefore who hears these words of mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man, who built his house on a rock. 7:25 The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it didn't fall, for it was founded on the rock.
7:26 Everyone who hears these words of mine, and doesn't do them will be like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand.
7:27 The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it fell--and great was its fall."

God's works and those found in Christ for God cannot be understood in physical works of mankind such is not the household of God that the apostle Paul is speaking to here in Hebrews. The physical works of Israel where stripped by the power of Christ indestructible life upon his glorification. That power of Christ life was to build God a spirit temple form a spiritual work Christ would do for his Father YHWH.

Col. 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.
2:13 You were dead through your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh. He made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 2:14 wiping out the handwriting in ordinances which was against us; and he has taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross;
2:15 having stripped the principalities and the powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in eating, or in drinking, or with respect to a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day, 2:17 which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ's.
2:18 Let no one rob you of your prize by a voluntary humility and worshipping of the angels, dwelling in the things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
2:19 and not holding firmly to the Head, from whom all the body, being supplied and knit together through the joints and ligaments, grows with God's growth.
2:20 If you died with Christ from the elements of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to ordinances,
2:21 "Don't handle, nor taste, nor touch"
2:22 (all of which perish with use), according to the precepts and doctrines of men? 2:23 Which things indeed appear like wisdom in self-imposed worship, and humility, and severity to the body; but aren't of any value against the indulgence of the flesh.

In other words, the spirit person of God in heaven are resting towards this earth from doing physical works because the world and all that in it are not from God, a basic teaching of all bibles. That is why those born new from the old world of flesh and corruption into the living incorruptible life of Christ Spirit works must desist from works of the old flesh to enter into God's works of building up the body of Christ for God's habitation by Holy Spirit!

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.
1 Peter 2:5 You also, as living stones, are built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 10:21 and having a great priest over the house of God.

They being in Christ are part of the temple of God, nothing of human power or works are found in God's temple all things are new in Christ no works of this world are in Christ the temple of God. To desist from works of our flesh we must have faith not in our own power to know the truth or God, but instead we must have faith in the power of God found in Christ Jesus for us Christian's.

1 Corinthians 2:4 My speech and my preaching were not in persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 2:5 that your faith wouldn't stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

1 Corinthians 4:20 For the Kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

2 Corinthians 13:4 For he was crucified through weakness, yet he lives through the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we will live with him through the power of God toward you.

Ephesians 1:19 and what is the exceeding greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to that working of the strength of his might

Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule, and authority, and power, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come.

Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

Why? Because it is impossible to desist from sinning or works of flesh in our flesh, we must die to stop sinning, we must die to stop being in the works of our flesh. We must die to stop doing our own works to do the works of God. God died to this world when Adam and Eve sinned. He could no longer be part of it, he stop his perfect sinless works as if God died.

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him. 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's. 2:17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's.

1 John 2:17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

Nothing from that point forward was God's works until God gave Moses the law birthing a physical nation of Israel into existence by his mighty hand by powerful works that could not be done by mankind. Those physical works in building physical temples and kings palaces Christ did not do. Christ desist from his physical labors as if dead too them any-longer and started doing the works of God. This was the problem and the reason the book of Hebrews was written to explain to those who were Jews coming from a physical nation that God had changed into a spiritual nation of Israel which was from above a heavenly Spirit city Jerusalem above that all his works would now be centered on.

Heb. 12:18 For you have not come to a mountain that might be touched, and that burned with fire, and to blackness, darkness, storm, 12:19 the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which those who heard it begged that not one more word should be spoken to them, 12:20 for they could not stand that which was commanded, "If even an animal touches the mountain, it shall be stoned{TR adds "or shot with an arrow" [see Exodus 19:12-13]};"{Exodus 19:12-13} 12:21 and so fearful was the appearance, that Moses said, "I am terrified and trembling."{Deuteronomy 9:19}
12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable multitudes of angels, 12:23 to the general assembly and assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 12:24 to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant,{Jeremiah 31:31} and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better than that of Abel. 12:25 See that you don't refuse him who speaks. For if they didn't escape when they refused him who warned on the Earth, how much more will we not escape who turn away from him who warns from heaven, 12:26 whose voice shook the earth then, but now he has promised, saying, "Yet once more I will shake not only the earth, but also the heavens."{Haggai 2:6}
12:27 This phrase, "Yet once more," signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that have been made, that those things which are not shaken may remain.
12:28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can't be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe,
12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.{Deuteronomy 4:24}

Now we know why Christ, his apostles, and those following Christ at the time did not build anything on earth physically calling it from God's hand or direction. Yes, search the scriptures if you will you will find nothing built by the early Christian's at the apostles time built and dedicated to God as his instruction or works. However, one-hundred year after Christ we will find many things built by those of the flesh, weed Christian's that corrupted all the truth of God's Kingdom in heaven. The kingdom of the heavens had become like a woman putting a batch of yeast into unleavened bread corrupting the whole lump, so to is the kingdom of heavens when Christian's went into the flesh.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Luke.13:20 Again he said, "To what shall I compare the Kingdom of God? 13:21 It is like yeast, which a woman took and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of flour, until it was all leavened."

The flesh is of no value at all in building and doing the works of God, it is the Spirit that gives life and that is the work of God for mankind in restoring what Adam and Eve lost, a Spirit life giving relationship with God, not a physical place to live or work. When we show up to work we desist from our works or we don't have a job very long. When we are adopted by God from the old life, put to death in the flesh we start doing the works of God by faith in the power of God's Spirit and the direction, teaching, of that Spirit, or we are dead to God.

1 John 2:20 You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.{Or, "know what is true." Or, "know all things."}

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.
John.6:27 Don't work for the food which perishes, but for the food which remains to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For God the Father has sealed him." 6:28 They said therefore to him, "What must we do, that we may work the works of God?"
6:29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."

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