Jehovah's Witnesses Straight Talk - Forum/Blog

1John.4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son as the atoning sacrifice{"atoning sacrifice" is from the Greek "hilasmos," an appeasing, propitiating, or the means of appeasement or propitiation--the sacrifice that turns away God's wrath because of our sin.} for our sins.
4:11 Beloved, if God loved us in this way, we also ought to love one another.

Do we understand that our flesh is wrath with God? Do we understand we cannot be at peace while at wrath with God? How does one ensue for peace when our very life and nature is found to be at wrath with God?

Exodus 24:5 He sent young men of the children of Israel, who offered burnt offerings and sacrificed peace offerings of cattle to Yahweh.

You see, wrath does not teach us love, now does it? Wrath is anti- love, it not even friendship let alone love, one is darkness the other is light. But if we can't; if we don't know why our flesh is at odds/wrath with God, then we think God is like us in our flesh, at wrath with us, but that is not God's love, so why is God opposed to our flesh?

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

The book of First John gives us that answer very simply if we are lead by Holy Spirit the teacher of the Spirit teaching us all things is teaching us all things about the Spirit, but not our flesh or someone else flesh?

So what is an enemy? Isn't it someone that is against us, trying to destroy us, that see no good in us, and want to remove us from life itself, or at least their life, they are not a friend because the analytical mind play's politically correct words games so one does not have to admit murder is in their heart.

1Cor.2:10 But to us, God revealed them through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

James. 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.

The enemy of God is death! What dwells in our flesh? death! Where does death come from? Sin! The same sin in us was used by the Devil to destroy God, and nothing less, and it has destroy God for mankind because few, very few, actually know God as love! There is our real truth found in the book of First John.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

Our sin cause us wrath with God, our sins cause us wrath with our brothers, do you know why? Simply put, the flesh we are born into judges good and evil, it can't stop, so it must be at odds with God and our brothers who have not judgment in Christ. It is that judgment of sin that cause wrath, wrath is not love, neither is judgment, because our bible teaches us judgment of the commandments under the old law, which was God's wrath. To make peace with God the thing making wrath must end or appeased our flesh. God must purchased paid off sins like a debt to make peace with God so he could remove his wrath. However, the judgment of that law could be only temporarily appeased by animal blood until the payment ran out, until it was used up.

Romans 4:15 For the law works wrath, for where there is no law, neither is there disobedience.

Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we will be saved from God's wrath through him.

God's love has no wrath, because to be in God's love, sin is no more, that is, our flesh, the thing causing judgment, and/or wrath with God's incorruptible life. Where did that flesh go, how was it removed from God's wrath (the law), i.e., his judgment? Christ paid the debt, he was put to death in the flesh, to pay that debt of sin, a debt we cannot remove by any works in our flesh. Christ gave his everlasting blood, the payment that can't run out it is everlastingly paid once for all times.

Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

Hebrews 7:27 who doesn't need, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices daily, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. For he did this once for all, when he offered up himself. e

Then we are told he presented that gift to his Father YHWH. His Father gave Christ his incorruptibility in the very image of himself. Power of the law was sin, sin in our flesh, Christ removed that power of our flesh once for all times, everlastingly, but how? He was made alive in Spirit not in the flesh.

Heb.1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds.
1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

for us to remain in God's love, one must be dead in their flesh in Christ Jesus, removing the wrath of God's judgment under the law for the flesh.

1 Timothy 3:16 Without controversy, the mystery of godliness is great: God was revealed in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, and received up in glory.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

The wall removed, abolished, in the everlasting life of Christ. That is how God first loved us. God did not live in the past, or in corruption (flesh), he removed judgment from us by his love, which is Christ Jesus; the thing separating us (flesh) from entering into God's love, his rest for us. In that love, we know God as love, and not judgment and wrath.

Hebrews 3:11 as I swore in my wrath, 'They will not enter into my rest.'"{Psalm 95:7-11}

Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest, even as he has said, "As I swore in my wrath, they will not enter into my rest;"{Psalm 95:11} although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

2Cor.3:15 But to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
3:16 But whenever one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Moreover, we are in God's love free of judgment, which means condemnation of the law, of the commandments, freed as it were of proving ourselves, which we could not, we no longer have to justify ourselves constantly by some work we are doing good or bad in a flesh that does not exist in God's judgment any longer (flesh) once for all times (flesh) being cast into the very sea.

Ephesians 2:14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and broke down the middle wall of partition.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

In that love, we are to love our brothers the same way, we are to do on to them as what God has done on to us. We are to remove the flesh, stop judging it, as though it can be made righteous, or that it can be made without sin by some work of law, that is, the commandments, or some human judgment, because that is impossible for us or our brothers.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

If we say we have not, and/or no sinned, we are saying we have gotten rid of our sins by human power in obeying God's laws that makes us the judge, because only one is the judge and law giver Christ Jesus, and he did not sin. We take his position by judging our brothers with laws of death completed in Christ by him giving his life for us, so we can know God's love without any merit found in our flesh, Christ freely giving us his merit freely by God's love.

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

1 Peter 4:8 And above all things be earnest in your love among yourselves, for love covers a multitude of sins.

1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
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