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PROPHECIES


Prophecy is an intricate part of the Christian faith, no one can deny this it is a fact, throughout the history of Christianity on earth there has been great interest in prophecy because it is intimately connected to the Christ Jesus return, it is so too speak, the main event for Christians.

And yet, caution is always the order of the day for those claiming their prophecies are from God. In fact, every Christian can pretty much quote the verses regarding false prophets coming in Christ Jesus name in the last days, and how a real prophet proves themselves as truly from God.

Unfortunately, if a person studies history of Christianity at all, they will find there have always been prophecies regarding the last days, direr warnings that if ones do not take of such prophecy as truth, they would die with the rest of the world at Christ Jesus coming. These claims have gone so far as actual persecution of Christian not accepting such doctrinal teachings of a particular group claiming themselves to be Christians.

Since the history of Christianity is replete with prophecies that never came true, and those making them would have stake their very life on their predictions. Moreover, where sadly, some groups were willing to put people out of their faith for rejecting these end times prophecies, even killing them, or labeling such ones apostates. We Christian's should give pause when hearing prophecy, let alone are making such predictions ourselves, wouldn't you think so?

Most groups will caution about false prophecy, thus, leaving such prediction to the elite of their group, while mocking, and even ridiculing other Christian's groups for their prophecies, particularly those that have failed.


But for Christian's we are to love truth, no matter where it comes from because truth will not hurt us, when Jesus Christ said; “he was the truth”. So Christian's fearing the truth is not good, we must love it, and yet if one is honest, most prophecy seem like truth, and can be justified by scriptures, so how does a person actually know if it truth?

The Heart of The Problem

Let us look at prophecies from another point of view rather than attacking each other over personal views of prophecy lets us ask the question(s), why is prophecy such a powerful tool in misleading Christian's throughout the history of Christianity - right into are present times. Moreover, what is it about some Christian's that they feel so special in their understanding they are willing to mislead millions to prove a point?

Certainly one cannot argue that they are not sincere, or that those believing them are not sincerely seeking truth, and have a love for God, so what exactly is it that Christian's continual to make prophecy, and continual to put faith in some person prophecy only to be mislead, and disappointed in to the destruction of their faith? Why is prophecy such a powerful things, why does it appeal too people letting them believe they are so much more special than other people of the same faith on earth, so much so that they would label others a false religion; even when such prophecy fails, they will simply shrug it off as no big deal, and wait patiently for the next prediction coming from their group, while judging, and condemning other Christian's group as false prophets, for doing the very same thing?

In order words, to answer that question all one has to do is look at their own heart, all Christian's at some point were cut to the heart from past bad deeds, seeing themselves in light of God's truth in the bible, they repented, and turned away from such sinful conduct, and came to know God and His Son Christ Jesus. Christian's walk in the light of Christ Jesus, should at least know the condition of human sin, and the condition of their own hearts will, when it sins, but do they?

Jer.17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it?
17:10 I, Yahweh, search the mind, I try the heart, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.

Thus, Christian's are in a battle against their own will of their sinful flesh they conquer the flesh by God's Holy Spirit, this contest should teach them that doing their own will creates sin and death for them. Moreover, in this contest exposes their continual need of God's forgiveness, and His love in Christ Jesus, to stay in the faith.

Gal.5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire.

Simply put, Christian's have received the eternal life of Christ Jesus and it is their faith in that eternal life and God's continual forgiveness of their sins that they will receive the completion of their faith, which is eternal life with God and His Son Christ Jesus.

They should not be ignorant of God's will, and their own will, they should know how to test the spirits to see if they are from God, or some where else that will mislead them into destruction of their faith?

Does Our Salvation Come Through Knowledge?

Christ Jesus made a telling statement that affects every Christian life, he said: That if a person tries to save this life, he would lose the next, or to put it another way, if we do all in our power to save this life right now, we would lose our soul.

Yet, those promoting their prophecy state that too save ones soul a person needs the knowledge of their prophecies based on God's word. So we must ask, do Christian's seek knowledge for salvation? If salvation comes through knowledge of prophecy, are we left to our own intellect to figure out which prophecy are true, and which are are not, so that we may save this life for the next one to come, is this correct thinking?


So we have now uncovered the heart of the problems, Christian's are saying they must seek knowledge of end-time prophecy to be saved. This concept, false as it is, appeals to self-will, self-survival, and pride of intellect, so one look too another savior within their faith, as having a special knowledge with God, and Christ, to give them what they need for salvation.

However, Jesus said we should not seek to save our soul or we would lose it, who should we believe?

Matthew 10:28 Don't be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Matthew 16:25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, and whoever will lose his life for my sake will find it.

John 12:25 He who loves his life will lose it. He who hates his life in this world will keep it to eternal life.

Is knowledge of prophecy the key to being saved, lets put it another way, when is a Christian's saved? Are we saved, and then we must gain special knowledge of end time prophecy to be found in the group that will be saved through the end of our world? Much more so, ii not having such knowledge, a mortal sin against God, as these groups teach?

1 John 5:12 He who has the Son has the life. He who doesn't have God's Son doesn't have the life.

John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will still live, even if he dies.

Faith In What?

What should Christian's put faith in? Should they put faith in end-time prophecies, or a group claiming the truth of end-time prophecy, or in Christ Jesus?


Why is this important, it is important because God gave only one name under heaven by which to be saved, and we know that name in our modern language as Jesus Christ.

Acts 4:12 There is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved!"

It is faith in this person of Jesus Christ the Son God that we are saved, it is not in more knowledge that we are saved, we are saved by faith, which if you want to define it better, it would be our trust in God. But is trust in God an easy thing? No, it is not, but those promoting prophecy would have you believe that faith alone is weak, and not enough. One cannot put real faith in God unless they love Him fully, it is not possible, no more so then one putting faith in a human without trusting them fully.

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.'{Deuteronomy 6:5}

Entrusting someone with your eternal life, and being willing to give up this life, requires a love for God, and a trust that His word is truth. We walk by faith, and not sight, but why? Because from a human point of view God is invisible too us, He is a spirit being, but from a spiritual point of view; are not seeing God by sight we build love for God by communicating with Him in spirit and truth. In other word, it is our spirit communion with God's own Spirit that develops a everlasting trust in God's love for us.

Thus, gaining knowledge of God is through our love for God, as we trust Him more, the greater our truth is of Him as a God of love, subsequently, the more we put faith in Him as a God of love. Knowledge without love is not truth according to God, God then is revealed to us in faith, a faith based upon love for God. But if we cannot believe the very first step of Christian faith, how can we say faith in prophecy is going to save us? Let us think of this in another way; you are on a sink ship, you are sent a rescue boat, but you reject it because you are afraid it will go down in ruff seas.


You believe your chances are better on the ship that is sinking.
Now someone approaches you with the plans of the ship that is sinking and tells you if you have special knowledge of this vessel you will be saved.

Your salvation depends upon yourselves, and your knowledge, does it not? The first thing that should have done was to get on the salvation boat in order too get you off the sinking ship, but you could not put faith in it, once on the rescue boat you are saved, you must put faith in the captain of the salvation boat to get you to shore safely.

The question begs is a quest for knowledge a lack of faith in Jesus Christ saving works? Are you a honest heart person seeking truth, if so, does the zeal for knowledge show a lack of faith in God's love for us? Although, most will not admit to this, they simply don't believe faith in Christ Jesus as salvation is enough, they cannot put total trust in God's love through Christ Jesus to be saved them, they want something more, which requires a lust for knowledge out of fear of losing life. It is much like the foolish person that thinks they can unlock the secrets of salvation on the doomed sinking ship by it blue prints in hopes of finding a hiding place that won't sink to the bottom of the sea with the rest of the ship.

Lack of Faith After Showing Faith

Christian's often find themselves in this position after accepting Jesus Christ by their faith, once in the boat of salvation there comes another boat having secret knowledge that appeals to pride, pride of not showing faith in the finish works of God, Christ Jesus. In other words, they lose faith in the unseen promises of God in Christ Jesus, so they seek the approval of men by their knowledge of God's word. Thus, they look up too these men/woman for salvation from their personal knowledge of Christ Jesus. Once in their boat they created a fear of judgment again, claiming God's love is not enough, demanding one must obey the rules of their salvation ship to be saved.

It is much like the person that get into the salvation boat as the only


hope for mankind, once in the boat they start lacking faith, they cannot see the captain, subsequently, another boat comes a long with a very serious looking experience captain, with great knowledge of the sea, so they jumps ship into the one they can trust by sight. They put faith in sight, and find themselves once again back on the sink ship, but this time the knowledge fools them into blindness of not seeing their real condition.

Moreover, to make matter worst they have lots of fellow passenger on the same sinking ship that speak all the truths of the salvation boat to justify their lack of faith in the salvation boat. Nevertheless, they are still on the sinking ship, but this time they have a justification for their blindness which is, a lack of faith in Christ Jesus saving power. Yes, a lack of faith in Christ Jesus is blindness, how does a blind man read blue prints of prophecy when he can no longer see them in turth?

Christian's must face the truth, the truth is not easy, real faith is very hard to maintain, this is why Christ pointedly ask us the question; “will he find faith on earth when he returns?” Those putting faith in end-time prophecies have no faith in the unseen Jesus Christ, they walk by sight, sight by intellect of falsely called knowledge, which seemingly gives them a rock-solid ground under their feet to judge others not accepting such prophecies.

Walking by faith means walking on things that human can't naturally do, such a Peter walking on water. All Peter had was his faith in what? Christ Jesus command too him, Peter put trust in Christ words, thus, he could walk on water unless he lost trust in Christ Jesus, and started thinking about losing his life in the violent seas beneath his feet?

Truth of Salvation

What truth of salvation did a person have to accept when Jesus walked and taught on earth? If the message was truth, which all of us say it is true, then we have found the truth of the salvation boat.

Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."


Acts 27:31 Paul said to the centurion and to the soldiers, "Unless these stay in the ship, you can't be saved."

Romans 10:9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Ephesians 2:8 for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Luke 7:50 He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you. Go in peace."

There are not many salvation boats, there is but one boat of salvation, it is our very first step into life with Christ Jesus, and it will be our last step into full life of Christ Jesus. There are not many roads leading into life there is one, and there is only one broad and spacious road leading into destruction. Although there are many teaching about Christ Jesus and His Father Yahweh, they must all be conducted in the one boat of salvation or upon the one road into life, which is Christ Jesus.

Prophecies That is Truth

If Jesus Christ is the “truth” then any prophecy outside of Jesus Christ is not of God, it cannot be truth, nor will it meet the standard of truth in Jesus Christ, but why? Simply put, God has given us but one name to be saved by, and that is of His Son Christ Jesus, Jesus is the way and the truth, but beyond this he is the head of the congregation of God. Just as a human body has a head which directs the rest of the body, Christ Jesus is that head of his spiritual body.

Christ Jesus as that head of the body is governed by one spiritual law, and that is love, Jesus Christ does not hate his own body members, but feeds and cherish them as his own life. Now if Jesus feeds and cherish his body as his own life, why would he make their salvation depended upon self-will, and personal intellect through end-time prophecy?

Why would he lie to us saying if you believe in me or put faith in me you have life or salvation, and than promote another salvation through a prophecy life boat requiring special knowledge to get life? Moreover, are you in the boat of salvation now or not, are you in the life, of the boat which is, Jesus Christ, or are you in another boat through personal salvation gained by knowledge of a blue print of a sinking ship?

John 5:24 "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.

Revelation 22:19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.

Thus, Jesus being the head of the congregations, and the real of source of prophecy that God accepts as truth; prophecy would then come from love of God towards the body members of Christ, because it is the only law of Christ Jesus has for his body. So what are we to make of prophecy that create hate, and jealousy among it members doing just the opposite of Christ Jesus rule over his own spiritual body?

Much more so, what are we do with prophecy that creates a lack of love and trust in God's provision to save us in Jesus Christ, furthermore, what are we to do with the spirit of lust for knowledge when people glorify themselves as special over other body members because of so called revealed truths? How can having prophecy promote a lack of love towards others not holding the same view?

James 3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.


3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?
3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic.
3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.
3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Is a Christian's salvation fear based, is it driven by an inordinate fear of judgment if they don't accept a certain end-time prophecy, do they live in fear they might miss a certain word that will change the entire meaning of the prophesy, thus, missing the salvation boat of Jesus Christ?

Romans 3:3 For what if some were without faith? Will their lack of faith nullify the faithfulness of God?

Romans 4:20 Yet, looking to the promise of God, he didn't waver through unbelief, but grew strong through faith, giving glory to God.

Romans 11:20 True; by their unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by your faith. Don't be conceited, but fear.

Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

Hebrews 10:38 But the righteous will live by faith. If he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him."{Habakkuk 2:3-4}

Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the saving of the soul.

Does claiming prophecy as the an identifying mark of God's children promote the lie of Satan the Devil? How can one love and distrust God at the same time. Moreover, an others of the body of Christ, without sinning against the truth?

1 John 4:20 If a man says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who doesn't love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?

1 John 4:8 He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just like I have loved you; that you also love one another.

Moreover, was it not Satan the Devil that claimed Adam and Eve needed to go beyond God's love shown in the Garden of Eden and their own bodies into a secret knowledge of good and evil to be saved? Yes, there is true prophecy for Christian's, but it is not the center piece of their teachings as identifying the truth. Love is the center piece promoting trust in God's saving power through our faith in Jesus Christ, it is the lack of love that one turn away from faith to promote another kind of Jesus Christ through prophecy of secret knowledge to make themselves gods or like God in knowing good and evil.

Faith Love Truth Reveals Prophecy

If we seek God's glory and not our own, we would quickly see that Christ encompasses all a Christian's could ever need in this world, but why? Because Christ is faith, love, truth, which his life reveals all prophecy in God's good pleasure towards His children.

We would also know the truth, and not the lie, which is, prophecy is
known when God's Son Christ Jesus brings it into the light of the world, Moreover, we would see that throughout the history of mankind there has never been a revealed truth since Christ Jesus that has changed one thing in God's prophecy or time table towards mankind. Although, thousands upon thousands of false prophecy have been promoted as divine truths coming from God Himself, they simply have not changed anything regarding God, Jesus or His written word.

No man since Christ Jesus (excluding the apostles of Christ Jesus) has stated a prophecy and God has claimed it as his own, absolutely none! Prophecy that has seemingly become clearer has happen as the events unfold, or after they've unfolded, none of mans dire predictions has prepared mankind any better for salvation than what Christ words spoke too us two thousands years ago while he was upon earth. Yes, as we reach further into the last day people in general will see and feel Christ Jesus prophecy as coming true, no words will have too be spoken accept what is written in general about the condition of the last days.

But why is this so? It is because we walk by faith, and not sight, it does not matter one wit if we know which day the end comes for this world, it does not help us walk in faith, in fact, it just might will take away from us walking in faith towards God. Moreover, each day of a Christian's life does not belong to themselves, they are part of the life of Christ Jesus and the will of the head of the body, Christ Jesus. They have died to the world and are awaiting they completion of their faith by the death of their flesh, which will come at God's own good pleasure.

Subsequently, each day is not their own, thus, Christ is always at the door of their flesh, he can call them home at will. Because they are bought and paid for by his righteous blood. They are sheep being lead to the slaughter each day, being put death in the flesh, and made alive in the spirit. Should they put faith in anything but the life of Christ in them, which is ,the truth, and living Word of Jesus Christ bearing witnesses with their spirit they will fail. Nor can they teach anything but the Christ without creating a false boat of salvation for their hears.

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Should future prophecy be needed to prepare mankind for Christ Jesus coming certainly God can speak through any channel needed to make His will known. However, because we walk by faith and not sight and the things are reveal by the spirit to the congregation God the light will also get brighter for the world as Jesus spoke of all things coming to light, and the works of mankind will become exposed and proven false, and not of Christ Jesus. Thus, those claiming prophecy as intellectual salvation over the one name given among mankind, they will be exposed as false prophets and not of God, as event unfold; God will not glorify them as they have imagined.

Living in Fear or Love?

Really, this is the ultimate question for each of us as Christian's, do we live in fear or love, those that live by laws of the flesh will argue we must fear God, and put all the weight on judgment of God towards mankind and themselves, they will deny that they are living in fear of punishment, but their own hearts speaks about punishments or a fearful God in every thing they teach, being fearful of speaking about God's love, but why?

They are afraid that they and others will take advantage of their so called Christian's freedoms if they teach love. The very thought of God's love has to be spoken in degrees and words of caution, it is much like telling a child to be in fear their own parents love, for it will mislead them; rather they should think constantly of their parents punishment, so the be will safe.

In other words, love become a dirty word, a weakness, and a disease that only those wanting to get away with something evil use as an excuse to sin. Sadly, Christian's are doing nothing more then parroting words taught to them by history of two thousands years of religious governments, what does this mean? Government in any form from business to religion is governed by laws of the flesh, which means, laws of sin that punish people for disobedience.


Unwittingly, being mislead by world wide empire of false religion, which must use laws of the flesh to control and grow their ministries, all with the best intention. Love of God can only be spoken of in terms of these religious governments doctrines, that is, their rules and laws that control the degree of love shown towards family, friends, husbands, wives, and other countries during wars or natural disasters.

Love of God then is a court of law formed by each group and expressed in judgments, much like governments do in maintaining law and order in their society. But for Christian's those that follow the example of Christ Jesus they would have to endure in their faith to end of their world, that is, at their death, or the end of the world in God's love. Thus, they would appear weak and foolish too false Christian's in empires of religious governments who's strengthen come through laws of the flesh, which empower them to preserve their own souls alive in good works legislated by the doctrines of their faith.

Moreover, this would allows them freedom and approval of men/woman in their groups to walk by sight and not faith. Unwittingly, they are fooling even themselves in this manner. On the other hand, those living in love trust God and His words, they are not foolish feeling superior to anyone, they are indeed grateful for God undeserved kindness, accepting it without merit from any of their own good. They simply know that there is nothing they can do to save themselves, their salvation is depended upon God own goodness toward them through Jesus Christ.

However, those under laws of the flesh, find themselves in a state of distrust towards God, “what more must they do too be saved”? They will quote Jesus words: “ You must endure to end to be saved.” this seemingly justifies their prophecies and harsh treatment of their flesh, making themselves perform certain works to present to God at judgment day to gain entrance into a eternal life.

But the question is, enduring to the end in what? Do we endure to the end in our own strengthen, do we endure to the end in our knowledge of end-time prophecy, or do we endure to the end in preaching the good news?

Or do we endure to the end in our faith in God provision of salvation in Jesus Christ? What did Jesus endure to the end in, his flesh, or his faith in God's love and spoken words to him. Such intellectualizing has lead many astray into ship wreck of their faith, by their falsely callend knowledge of so called truth.

One must remember the breaking of Christ Jesus flesh upon earth was to weaken his faith in his Fathers love towards him. Here we have the foundation that as Christian's we must stand on, which is the example of faith Christ Jesus set for us to follow. Yes, enduring faith is much harder than enduring in a person flesh that even a solder does during war time. Faith that God, Yahweh is only good, when all that is being done too us and to our flesh is punishment, is a much different thing than one making themselves do perfunctory good works believing they will saved by them.

Yes, perfunctory good works, these are works set up by a religious organization to judge ones faith by the rules of the organization, such as meeting attendance, doing physical good works towards other in the group, a ministry of teachings or preaching and so on. These are wonderful things that Christian's should want to do towards other, but they do not prove a person has faith in God, nor that they are enduring to the end in their love for God.

In other words, these very works can make a person walk by sight and not faith causing them a lack of real faith that is supplied to each one of us by God's own love in the body of Christ Jesus. Yes, we are supplied faith as one of the fruit of God Holy Spirit, but why is this so important?

It is important because a Christian's must come to the point as a mature person of faith, in understanding all they have in Christ Jesus is a gift of love from our heaven Father Yahweh. In other words, without God's own goodness and love they have nothing, even their measure of faith, how can this be?

Let us again use the salvation boat example, within the salvation boat is
all that is needed to survive in the ruff seas and get to shore safely, but who has provided the provision for the salvation in the boat? Well, it wasn't your own goodness, the salvation boat came to your rescue, it was the owner of the boat, once in the boat one might feel they are highly privileged, and that would be true, but are they anymore privileged than anyone else in the salvation boat?

Now if a person in the salvation boat thought they had special knowledge of the captain and were more privileged than others on the salvation boat they might start acting like the captain, and creating rules to make one earn way in the salvation boat. In fact, as the journey continual ones might forget that they were saved not by their own good works but their faith by getting into the salvation boat, and then come up with a whole set of new rules claiming that if your did not accept their rules you could not be saved. Thus, perhaps, even throwing some out of the salvation boat by their rules.

But the only rules one must endure to the end of the journey is would be the captains rules and not the passengers rules, isn't that correct, but what if the passengers start to beat other fellow passenger up with words, and harsh accusation because they wanted them to follow their rules that they claimed where the captains rules? What are the rules for salvation in Jesus Christ, which is the one questions we must know for salvation, moreover, it is what we must endure in to be saved by?

The rule in the salvation boat is also the identifying mark of those in the salvation boat which love. Yes, love, love is what the captain rules are, for all of us Christian's, if we endure in love, we prove we have faith, but why? Because without love, faith is meaningless to God.

Spiritual Intercourse Vs. Prophecies

Let us use one more example in order to firmly place our feet upon Jesus Christ where we should be when it comes to prophecy in a Christian's life. When a couple is married in God's eyes, often throughout the day they will do things that hurt each others feelings, some of these things are mistakes, while others may be intentional. However, when this


couple goes to bed the intimacy shared in love's intercourse heals and covers those mistakes that causes each of them their hurts. Their intimacy shared in intercourse makes it difficult to hold on to those bad feelings it removes fear and distrust replacing it with love. But on the other hand, if this same couple over the years just can't seem to make adjustments in their personalities in not hurting one another, resentments will grow to where the intimacy shared in love making will become almost impossible. In other words, intercourse becomes a physical act having no meaning, it no longer heals the hurts, in fact, it may make the relationship even worst because the intimacy brings up feelings of resentment from past hurts still being practiced. This in turn causes the very present of the other person in the bedroom coldness, and a withdrawal of inmate feelings, which takes much energy to withhold, than too give.

The loved once shared will become displaced upon another things from work, to the house, hobbies, children, what ever, substituting the intimacy once shared, which is needed to keep the relationship strong. Rather this couple realizes it or not, just living together, and not sharing their love, make both of them unfaithful to the other, but how? Well, they have taken the very thing that nourishes their relationship and given it to another project, even if it is not human, hence, an material thing, it is still an illegitimate substitute for sharing their love with their mate.

Christian's are in an intimate relationship with God Yahweh, they share in spiritual intercourse with God, what does this mean? It mean the relationship they have come into with God through the spiritual body of Christ Jesus is a communion with God's Holy Spirit in love. The hurts that they causes too God each day by sinning are healed in this loving relationship of spiritual intercourse with God. Showing they have been forgiven, removing distrust, and suspension, restoring their faith in God's love towards them. This relationship is one sided in one sense that we are the ones causing the hurt by our sinning against God's love towards us.

Anything less than this inmate relationship with God by Holy Spirit in the body of Christ Jesus does not heal the sins of our flesh, we simply cannot maintain a righteous standing before God if we don't communion with
Him in love. Thus, when we find ourselves sinning against God, and not coming to Him in love, we sever our communion with Him. In other words, we will substitute our spiritual intercourse with God for a lesser love, that is, a person, thing, organization, knowledge, prophecy, and so on. Simply put, we replace our spiritual communion with God, which nourishing us, and feeds us on the bread of life, Jesus Christ. We instead involve ourselves in projects that we can replace are trust in, rather than God's unseen love found in the Holy Spirit. These projects are actually a form of spiritual adultery, which bring something foreign into our inmate relationship with God that should be given exclusively to our God. We thus, allow are own sins to separated us from our loving Heavenly Father, Yahweh.

Moreover, we lack trust/faith in God's love to continual to communion with us in healing our sins which are often times deliberate against God. It is much simpler to walk by sight than faith giving our zeal to prophecy, or a group, church, or and organization that gives us an approval by good works, or our knowledge of a certain subject, which elevates us above others in the group.

Thus, it is our faith in God's love that we stand and walk in Spirit and communion with God, it is in this personal inmate relationship our salvation in found. Subsequently, lesser loves are worldly, adulteress , illegitimate communions, which are substituted for our faithfulness to God. We have allowed distrust to be the nature of our relationship with God, just like a couple that watches every word spoken to protect themselves, or capture the person in wrong conduct, rather than living in love by trusting their partner.

Sadly, most often the hurts we experience in our faith with God come from false teachings passed on too us by our closes associates in religious groups that we love more than God's, although, well meaning as these people are they are not substitutes for spiritual intercourse with God, and His Holy Spirit. It much like a couples who are in a constant state of reading the latest relationship books to make their marriage better, when in fact, their quest for knowledge can not substitute the need for them too show love for one another, which means allowing themselves to be


wronged.

Knowledge does not necessary change a person, in fact, often times it just points up how far we fall short of perfection, leading us too more judgment, and greater discontentment with our mates, but how? When knowledge is not found in love it creates judgment for other. It is this deception of knowledge that makes us hypocrites in this life.

Falsely Called Knowledge

Falsely called knowledge is deception whereby we can see how others should act, and are not doing so, we deceives ourselves by thinking because we have this insight, or knowledge, we are excused from acting the same way, or in love towards others. In other words, we are so busy seeing the weakness of others we forget about our own sins, we feel superior because of our knowledge when in fact we are more accountable to God for such knowledge.

In other words, if we know how to do what is right, and don't do it, we judge ourselves. Falsely called knowledge take away our trust, or faith in God , but how? Our spiritual intercourse with God is based upon truth, godly knowledge must be support by truth, if not it is falsely called knowledge that causes us to be unfaithful to God in some manner. Using the analogy of a marry couple again.

Where a marry couple gain knowledge to prove themselves right instead of showing love in their relationship they have falsely called knowledge, they are not concern with showing love, but conquer the other person with knowledge too condemns them for their hurtful actions, this type of knowledge will never restore what is lost in a relationship, it will only cause more hate and suspicion towards each other.

The intimacy is gone because the love has been replaced with suspicion and distrust for their partner. The lust for knowledge, which mean the fear of not having knowledge to protect oneself against the conduct of one mate is a sin, which is a lack of love. Those Christian's who teach prophecy as being so vital to salvation find themselves in this exact same


circumstance, it is their lack of love for God, which causes them to distrust Him as a loving Heavenly Father in a spiritual intimate relationship where He cannot fail them, nor trick them into personal salvation by a lack of knowledge in some prophecy being promoted.

Thus, the quest for perfect knowledge through prophecy is an act of fear in not trusting God's love. The darkness of this fear, and distrust is subsequently, from ones own heart lacking faith in God. This fear becomes so great that the thought of trusting God's love is hated, and attacked as stupid and weak, but it is a form of unfaithfulness, or worldly thinking, and above all it is our trying to save oneself by falsely called knowledge, that is, by personal salvation, which is a lack of faith in God's love.

Faith and love on the other hand, is one hundred and eighty degrees the opposite of distrust for God; love first trust, love looks for the good, hopes the best in others, it does not seek it's own interest, and above all it knows God as good the only one that cannot do evil towards us.

In other word, love imputes only good to God's character, it distrust it own character, but knows God will not do anything less than what is just fair, and loving, towards those loving Him. Moreover, walking in love means even if we don't understand something about God we do not distrust Him, we instead put more trust and faith in Him knowing at some point if God see it in our best interest He will give us the correct information to help us, or provide us the strengthen to endure in our faith towards Him.

Circumventing faith in God, and putting trust in a prophecy, or an organization is not God's fault when we end up on the short end of the stick, so to speak, when are own ways come back upon us in distrust for God and others in religion. We can excuse our sin, by imputing wrong motive too God, saying “if God loved me, you would not have allowed me to be mislead, by such false teachings that have ruin my life and other I have taught”.


The need for us to worship by sight is not a fault with God, the need for us to accept a relationship with God by falsely called knowledge is a lack of love and faith on our part, not a lack of love on God's part towards us.

The rock-solid proof of this is going back to God in faith and believing in His is love. This will once again cause a communion with God in an intimate relationship that heals our wounds caused by falsely called knowledge. God will be found true though every man a liar, love will not fail us, it is our lack of faith in God's love that take us out of the boat of salvation, and puts us into another good news causing much pain, distrust, and lack of faith in God own words of salvation.

Moreover, let us remember those promoting prophecy over love have put saving this life in front of their faith in God, thus, such conduct is selfish, which causes evil fruits to found upon the tree they are putting faith in. Moreover, for us to deny this by justifying such bad conduct by some good fruit, does not change God's character, it is nothing more than putting faith in something less than a person relationship with God. End john

God has made clear in His written word that no man every hated his own body, but feeds and cherish it in love. Jesus Christ has a body of spiritual members that he feeds and cherish in love, how could he trick them if they stay in God's love? How could he create faith in them with anything less than love, and truth. Moreover, why would He withhold salvation from them if they could not figure out a prophecy in the bible perfectly?

Our we required perfect knowledge of God or perfect love in our faith towards God for salvation? We are being perfected in love by our suffering; part of that suffering is by seeing how imperfect we are, and how great God's love and forgiveness is towards us when we put faith in His love.

True Prophecy

True prophecy from God is a way of life for Christian's it comes to them in many forms by wisdom so they may make good decision regarding their lives, or to warning them of impending doom, to godly correction so


that we take another course. Moreover, prophecy is more than finding out which generation, year, month, or day of Christ Jesus well return. For prophecy to be found true for Christian's is must first be found in love, God's love, it cannot be based upon fear of judgment or punishment or it is outside of the body of Christ and not of God.

Testing the spirits is by testing them against God's love, if the spirits promotes the works of our flesh in fear and judgment discrediting God means of Salvation through our faith, then they are not from God's love. On the other hand, if they build up our faith in God's love, and promises that He will not deny us, or separated us from His love, them perhaps they are true? Nevertheless, we are still in God's love by our spiritual communion with Him daily, and what ever we need for our faith will be provided for us because God is love, and His love will not fail us.

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additional information: 12-24-2014

1Thess.5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need that anything be written to you.

We as Christian's have two points we can go to here regarding Paul's words, 1.) legally dissecting Paul's words as an attorney of law does, or 2.) Understanding them in context to all the holy writings? Why could Paul says to these brothers and sisters at his time, they needed no one to write them about the time of the end?

2Thess.2:1 Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him, we ask you 2:2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come.

Many seasons have came and went since Paul's spoke the above words, so let be honest, basic premise of Christianity, is truth, which means those who are born of truth, and who love the truth! Today Christian's find there are many letters written during the absent of our Lord, letters claiming times and seasons; presently the internet and religion are a prolific field of weeds with declaration of end time prophecy instructing us how to know the times and season of Christ coming.

Matthew 24:26 If therefore they tell you, 'Behold, he is in the wilderness,' don't go out; 'Behold, he is in the inner chambers,' don't believe it.

Matthew 16:25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, and whoever will lose his life for my sake will find it.

But shockingly Paul states just the opposite, he says; “We have no need of anyone to write us about the seasons and times”, why? Well, for one, it had already been written by Holy Spirit, and two, prophecy of Christ about the destruction of God's people and the temple at Jerusalem the center of worship of the Jewish faith, and the single greatest event ever in the history of mankind, would soon take place, and has already taken place in for us, happen in 70CE. Which is the main point of Paul's words here. But there is still more based upon the scriptures themselves and what is that?

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

In context, who was Paul speaking to who here? He was speaking to the body of Christ, was the body of Christ in darkness, or light? If these brothers and sister were in the body of Christ, God knows and no man? Then they were in Christ Jesus the light. They were the temple of the living God, what letter could teach them something outside of the body of Christ Jesus the light, having the mind of God? None! Doing so would mean going out of Christ into darkness, into the wilderness away from the truth, which is the Christ, and his mind. It would mean going out from where the eagles gathers for food; the unleavened bread of Christ, would it not? Into darkness of human wisdom of the world and filling ones belly with yeast bread the unrighteousness of human intellect/wisdom. It would mean being an unfaithful slave promoting our own mind, or someone else and not the mind of Christ where our righteousness and direction come from, who would do that unless they are from another source of life and light, not the Christ the light?

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellence of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

1 Thessalonians 5:5 You are all children of light, and children of the day. We don't belong to the night, nor to darkness.

1Cor.1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1:31 that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24}

The body feeds the body, this is why anointed followers of Christ need no one to teach them, so is that's Paul point here, yes! But still there is more, and what is that? God had created his children in love, does a perfect Father hand a child a serpent when requesting information from a good Father? No! Who would tell such a lie? Darkness or light? Faith is not contention now is it? Faith is not distrust, now is it? Is Faith a ruthless self-survival where each man is for themselves, is that the Christianity that you know?

Eph.5:29 For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourishes and cherishes it, even as the Lord also does the assembly; 5:30 because we are members of his body, of his flesh and bones.
5:31 "For this cause a man will leave his father and mother, and will be joined to his wife. The two will become one flesh."{Genesis 2:24} 5:32 This mystery is great, but I speak concerning Christ and of the assembly.

1 John 2:9 He who says he is in the light and hates his brother, is in the darkness even until now.

1 John 2:10 He who loves his brother remains in the light, and there is no occasion for stumbling in him.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic. 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.

We rest in God, and his promises, or we live in judgment, and fear believing the lie that we must have perfect knowledge of hidden times and seasons for self-survival, which we teach others to so they depend upon our super special relationship with God as his chosen channel to distributed the information for self-salvation to them, is this the Christianity you believe in an teach? Are you an apostle of Christ? One of the chosen ones, the foundation Christ built his Kingdom upon? Have you noted, not since Christ apostles there has been no new holy writings which God and Christ has authorized as written by Holy Spirit, why do you think that is?

Heb.1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds. 1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

2 Peter 1:19 We have the more sure word of prophecy; and you do well that you heed it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns, and the morning star arises in your hearts:

2 Peter 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation.

2 Peter 1:21 For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke, being moved by the Holy Spirit.

Yet, if we love truth and are found in Christ life, we find throughout this same two thousand's years a profound number of people claiming the authority of the apostles of Christ promoting their interpretation of times and seasons as infallible truths. Yet, not one utterance by letter has came true, or proven inspired, this should be shocking to lovers of truth, should it not? However they have all shown one fruit, evilness in being willing to misleading others searching for truth in Christ into the destruction of their faith by making salvation depended upon man's arm and not the arm of God!

Psalms 77:15 You have redeemed your people with your arm, the sons of Jacob and Joseph. Selah.

John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will still live, even if he dies.

John 12:25 He who loves his life will lose it. He who hates his life in this world will keep it to eternal life.
John 10:28 I give eternal life to them. They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

Jeremiah 17:5 Thus says Yahweh: Cursed is the man who trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm, and whose heart departs from Yahweh.

No one knows the time of Christ returns, but the body of Christ whom must wait faithfully in faith trusting in the life of Christ indwelling them as the sure seal of eternal life. It is the Spirit that is truth, not a letter or a document proclaiming the times and seasons by someone professing to be a body member of Christ.

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we are not bold to number or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves. But they themselves, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves with themselves, are without understanding.

1 John 5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies. To him who overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of my God.

Those of the body of Christ are in life, the eternal life indwelling them as part of Christ own life by Spirit, which is not future according to some date man contrives. They have received the assurance of life by Holy Spirit conceived in them, provided they walk in faith and love. They are not running out of Christ into another life through some message that excites the flesh into fear of the things coming upon the earth, as though this life is all there is! They have received a Kingdom that cannot be shaken, they are not preparing themselves for the day of persecution, the Holy Spirit will do that if need be. They are walking in the one true prophets words, Christ Jesus, as the head of the body, as he speaks in Spirit and truth to those born anew.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

Hebrews 13:6 So that with good courage we say, "The Lord is my helper. I will not fear. What can man do to me?"{Psalm 118:6-7}

Romans 8:15 For you didn't receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, "Abba{Abba is an Aramaic word for father or daddy, often used affectionately and respectfully in prayer to our Father in heaven.}! Father!"

They are not an unfaithful slave speaking as the head of the body in not waiting upon the master spirit voice, instead beating other slaves verbally abusing them because they are faithfully teaching only Christ words as truth, while waiting his return, and direction by Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:5 For we don't preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake;

2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as so many, peddling the word of God. But as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God, we speak in Christ.

1 Corinthians 16:22 If any man doesn't love the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be accursed{Greek: anathema.}. Come, Lord!{Aramaic: Maranatha!}

December 26, 2014 | Registered CommenterJWsStraightTalk