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Unadulterated Word of God

Have you every had this experience you were reading something out God's word the bible, and it changed your entire way of thinking? But what is shocking you thought you had it down, correct that there was no other explanation!

Its a stunning experience particularly if you have been a judgmental person. If you had put all your faith into some teaching you knew was correct, in fact, you would have died for it in defending it as the truth only to find out you were wrong and hurt others with your judgments?

Truth of Two World's

God truth of his world has to be given too us, as a gift from above, our world here below can try as it does, to explain why God gives some people understanding, and other not? We can take the scriptures and outline reasons, we can divide the word up into doctrines of faith, and verses into legal arguments, but none really know, why some people search for truth and God gives them the “key” to unadulterated truth of Him and His Son, while others go into an adulterated truth?

Rom.9:8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed. 9:9 For this is a word of promise, "At the appointed time I will come, and Sarah will have a son."{Genesis 18:10,14} 9:10 Not only so, but Rebecca also conceived by one, by our father Isaac. 9:11 For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls, 9:12 it was said to her, "The elder will serve the younger."{Genesis 25:23} 9:13 Even as it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."{Malachi 1:2-3} 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? May it never be!

If we were to take a huge field and plant it with weeds, and water those weeds, fertilizing them, what would they produce? Weeds! None of us would be shocked, we would bank on the truth, weeds produce weeds, no debate would ensue, unless it was just to cause trouble, or pick a fight.

1 John 2:21 I have not written to you because you don't know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth.

However, if you had politicians trying to gain power and control over peoples lives and they told you the field of weeds are not actually weeds, but wheat, would you believe them? The power of people in position can make a person believe lies, not only believe lies, but judge others with those lies who don't go alone with them as evil!

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

We are told that without God's Spirit teaching us from His world above, we cannot understand the truth, but do we believe that, or do we believe like the politician's of faith, religious leaders that say: “the bible is enough to have the all truth.”

John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and will remind you of all that I said to you.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

Do you see the power in that statement, it offends some people who think if the word of God is not enough than how can we judge? Nevertheless, the power of our fleshly minds say its is enough and ever time we have problem with others we run to the bible to correct their conduct, and their thinking, using those righteous words from our bibles translated by what we been taught from a religion or reading it ourselves, but what if we found out we are wrong?

Without Spirit Can We Judge Correctly?

1Cor.2:14 Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 2:15 But he who is spiritual discerns all things, and he himself is judged by no one.

The bible, and Christ leaves us no doubt on this subject, Christ died at the hands of people that misinterpreted the scripture, people chosen of God, a people that were commanded by YHWH to inculcated their children from infancy with the Holy writings. If knowledge were enough, than the Jewish faith would not have killed the Son of God. Now stop and think, why should you or me believe that we are better because we study our bibles, and that we could not make the same mistake?

1Cor.4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self.
4:4 For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord. 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

John 8:26 I have many things to speak and to judge concerning you. However he who sent me is true; and the things which I heard from him, these I say to the world."

Jesus did not tell the Jews whom had the scriptures that it was enough to judge others with, Christ said it was what he heard from his Father that he would make his judgments upon, the truth of God reading peoples hearts, by Spirit not just the scriptures as the only truth to judge other by?

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

If were honest, and love truth, we would have to say, it could happen to us as well. If you have ever pick up the scriptures and misjudged someone or something based on our biblical knowledge than we know the truth, and that experience should have humbled us.

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

Romans 2:16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men, according to my Good News, by Jesus Christ.

Rather we like or not, God holds the key to our understanding the truth, the unadulterated truth, without human contamination from our unrighteous sins. Can we separated our sinful motives from truth from above without God's help? No we cannot! No where within the Greek scriptures are we told we can teach ourselves without the help of God's Holy Spirit leading us into the truth.

1 John 4:6 We are of God. He who knows God listens to us. He who is not of God doesn't listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1 John 4:13 By this we know that we remain in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.

1 John 5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.

If we do not have Spirit than we do not have truth, no matter what level of intellect we have, one does not have God's truth, the unadulterated truth of God without the help coming from God through Jesus Christ by Holy Spirit.

1 Peter 1:22 Seeing you have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth through the Spirit in sincere brotherly affection, love one another from the heart fervently:

Salvation From Above

We are saved from above, from God in every aspect of our life, not just in accurate knowledge. Our entire faith, truth, and life is saved from God coming down to us from above taking us out of this world and its thinking.

Titus 3:3 For we were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. 3:4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and his love toward mankind appeared, 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

Many today believe salvation is one act of God in accepting Jesus Christ then their going to a religious group and speaking words from their bibles. Salvation according to truth with Spirit is an on going work daily minuted to minute of being renewed in Christ Jesus life. It is not stagnant, or a word, it is a living word of God, being indwelt with the life of Christ Jesus as the truth, building up holy stones for his temple in us.

Ephesians 4:23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind.

Romans 12:2 Don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what is the good, well-pleasing, and perfect will of God.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

We do not on any level of sinful flesh save ourselves such saving of self by the mind of our flesh, that is, the mind under sin is not of God, nor can it save us, or teaches us the truth. We are given a new mind, a mind that most Christian's believe is a word in their bible. We are given the mind of Christ Jesus, who is living as everlasting incorruptible truth in heaven. We are given his mind, his thinking when our old mind is dead, and we are in the mind of Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.

Philippians 3:16 Nevertheless, to the extent that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule. Let us be of the same mind.

1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beg you, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} through the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfected together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

The Mind of Unadulterated Truth

Does life come from a sinful mind reading God's word the bible? This is not a trick question can a person, a religious person, reading the bible give themselves eternal from the words written therein? No, it is factually impossible for a person to give themselves eternal life, without the Spirit of God resurrecting them recreating them into eternal life.

Acts 4:12 There is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved!"

Ephesians 1:13 in whom you also, having heard the word of the truth, the Good News of your salvation,--in whom, having also believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.

Philippians 1:19 For I know that this will turn out to my salvation, through your supplication and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to always give thanks to God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief in the truth;

Yet, many believe the scriptures alone will give them eternal life, that is, reading them daily as food from God, but the bible does not teach this. We must be given a new mind of eternal life which mind is living and real, not on paper which has no life in it, not on stone, or in a legal corporate religion, but in truth and Spirit coming from a living God in heaven.

Luke 20:38 Now he is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for all are alive to him."

John 4:10 Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, 'Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

Romans 9:26 "It will be that in the place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' There they will be called 'children of the living God.'"{Hosea 1:10}

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:3 being revealed that you are a letter of Christ, served by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tablets of stone, but in tablets that are hearts of flesh.

The very manna of God in ancient times given from YHWH came from above not below, the Israelite's did not make the manna by reading the scriptures. Moses did not make the manna, the priesthood did not make the manna. In fact, if they did not eat the manna in the wilderness they would have died! Dead without the breathe of life to the knowledge of the law of God, dead to the priesthood, and Moses without eating the manna, none of their worship would have matter without first eating the manna, now would it?

Deuteronomy 8:3 He humbled you, and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you didn't know, neither did your fathers know; that he might make you know that man does not live by bread only, but by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh does man live.

The manna was life, and without the strengthen coming from the manna they could not live nor worship God. Their life and salvation physically came from God, they could not fool themselves into thinking if they did a good work from their good heart that would not need salvation from eating the manna.

John 6:49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.

John 6:58 This is the bread which came down out of heaven--not as our fathers ate the manna, and died. He who eats this bread will live forever."

Many thinking as Christian's life depend upon their reading the word of God, getting accurate knowledge by studying in a religion or a program doctrines of truth, but the bread of life from above coming from the unadulterated mind of Christ without leaven of sin one cannot know the truth of their bibles, or have salvation. Our entire eternal life comes from this association with the unadulterated mind of Christ Jesus.

John 6:26 Jesus answered them, "Most certainly I tell you, you seek me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate of the loaves, and were filled. 6:27 Don't work for the food which perishes, but for the food which remains to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For God the Father has sealed him."

John.6:33 For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world." 6:34 They said therefore to him, "Lord, always give us this bread." 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will not be hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.

Humanizing God With Yeast

Some believe with the deepest desire and sincerity that making God more obtainable by human terms, that is, emotions an feelings like ours they have render the greatest work ever done on earth. But the question is, why does God not make Christ into yeast so we can better understand him? Why does God demand that life comes through the unadulterated mind of God, the Christ, as the truth known only by God's Spirit?

1 Peter 1:4 to an incorruptible and undefiled inheritance that doesn't fade away, reserved in Heaven for you,

1 Peter 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever.

1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: your faith.

Rom.3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.
3:11 There is no one who understands. There is no one who seeks after God. 3:12 They have all turned aside. They have together become unprofitable. There is no one who does good, no, not, so much as one."{Psalms 14:1-3; 53:1-3; Ecclesiastes 7:20}
3:13 "Their throat is an open tomb. With their tongues they have used deceit."{Psalm 5:9} "The poison of vipers is under their lips;"{Psalm 140:3}
3:14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness."{Psalm 10:7}
3:15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood. 3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways. 3:17 The way of peace, they haven't known."{Isaiah 59:7-8}

Do we think we are going to get wheat from cultivating weeds? Do we thinking that our cat is going to act like a dog because we feed him dog food? Are we disappointed when the cat is still a cat and acts like a cat, or do we impute our feeling into the cat that it is a dog and than become a offended with some tells us we are living a lie?

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him.

2 Peter 1:4 by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

Do you want to humanize God into unrighteous humans under sin that are dying from sin to understand God's righteousness, which is Jesus Christ? Do you get offend when told the truth that eternal life does not come from your feelings, or the thoughts of your fleshly mind? But eternal life has been given to Christ, and he is our life, if we have his mind as a gift of God's love than we have life, and the food of life?

1Cor.1:29 that no flesh should boast before God.
1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1:31 that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24}

There is no yeast in the unleavened bread of Christ if we want eternal life, if we don't eat of this bread from above, we will die in our sins, and whatever lie we want to believe from other men of sin. No matter how righteously they uses God's word the bible, no matter how much good logic with the best motives, one is not going to obtain to salvation without God's help from above freeing use from the leaven of human thinking born of sin. We can die in our pride, we can study every second of every day for 100-years, but without God Spirit giving us the true food the unadulterated life from above, putting us too death in our fleshly thinking - into Christ mind by God's Spirit, we cannot have salvation.

John 3:34 For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for God gives the Spirit without measure.

John 4:23 But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

God is not making weeds into wheat by words from our bibles. God is killing the weeds and recreating them into wheat, a new species, a new creation through a new life, an eternal life, the life of the one man whom did all things righteously, without adulterating the word God. Life does not come from sin, life does not come from yeast, life does not come from weeds, life comes from the source of life that God has placed into Jesus Christ to give too us.

1 John 5:12 He who has the Son has the life. He who doesn't have God's Son doesn't have the life.

We can go out into the wilderness into the desert of fleshly wisdom to try to find the fountain of life. We can worship with a group of sincere Christian's, we can beat our bodies bloody, be at meetings every waking moment of the day and never saying anything, but what comes from our bibles, and still be dead to Christ the living bread from above, does this shock you!

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

1 Corinthians 15:19 If we have only hoped in Christ in this life, we are of all men most pitiable.

If we don't eat of the bread life, no matter our understanding of the scriptures as the Jews found out, we do not have the truth. We have the truth, by receiving the life of Christ, which is the truth, the living truth giving us life, by his eternal life in us, feeding us, supporting us, teaching us, killing our fleshly mind, giving us faith, and hope, and love, breathing the very living breathe of life into us by God's Holy Spirit.

John 3:8 The wind{The same Greek word (pneuma) means wind, breath, and spirit.} blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but don't know where it comes from and where it is going. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Ezekiel 37:9 Then said he to me, Prophesy to the wind, prophesy, son of man, and tell the wind, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Come from the four winds, breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live.

Ezekiel 37:10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up on their feet, an exceedingly great army.

Humanizing God will not make God real, it is by the Holy Spirit that God real too us, and Christ lives in us. It is by putting away the works of our flesh that unadulterated living bread comes to us as Christian's. It is feeding on unleavened bread that sustain the life of Christ in us, and our eternal life. No! God is not a fast food restaurant so we can have it our way, so we can spice things up by making God more human with a little leaven to make the taste buds pop so we can dance in the flesh for some entertainment.

Ezekiel 21:5 and all flesh shall know that I, Yahweh, have drawn forth my sword out of its sheath; it shall not return any more.

Matthew 16:17 Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that you don't enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."

Romans 6:19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh, for as you presented your members as servants to uncleanness and to wickedness upon wickedness, even so now present your members as servants to righteousness for sanctification.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

God is violently opposed to sin, he kills, destroy it as an enemy, he does not consort with evil, or sin, sin is evil on all levels, no, a little evil of sin is not OK! Even if it seem to do some good in helping us understand God. Wake up to soberness, put off darkness, and accept salvation on God's terms. Either you are the captain of the boat or we are in the captain boats taking orders for salvation on the God's terms. Pride of our thoughts, and our flesh has never brought salvation to anyone, it is God's love, expressed to us from above that saves the world. The world will not save the world, it is corrupted with sin and death and is in darkness without the light from above.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Col.3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly; in all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your heart to the Lord.
3:17 Whatever you do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father, through him.

If one does not feed on life from above, they will find no eternal life upon this earth or from the bread of this earth corrupted by yeast of sin. Our bread comes down from above raising us up, putting us upon a mountain high above all nations of this earth, God's Kingdom is not formed by human hands or thoughts and God is not going to adulterate the unleavened bread of Christ for human wisdom.

Revelation 5:12 saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb who has been killed to receive the power, wealth, wisdom, strength, honor, glory, and blessing!"

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

Hebrews 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable multitudes of angels,

Revelation 14:1 I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him a number, one hundred forty-four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.

Col,3:4 When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory. 3:5 Put to death therefore your members which are on the earth: sexual immorality, uncleanness, depraved passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry; 3:6 for which things' sake the wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience. 3:7 You also once walked in those, when you lived in them; 3:8 but now you also put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and shameful speaking out of your mouth. 3:9 Don't lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old man with his doings, 3:10 and have put on the new man, who is being renewed in knowledge after the image of his Creator,