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WORTH!


A Judge passes judgment upon a person while at the same time they practice the very crime they judge others for. A Christian's passes judgment upon another Christian's while they are practicing the same sins, or worst. A world leader bring judgment upon a group of people while living in the lap of luxury thinking their own worth is more than those under their power.

Rom.2:3 Do you think this, O man who judges those who practice such things, and do the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of his goodness, forbearance, and patience, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 2:5 But according to your hardness and unrepentant heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath, revelation, and of the righteous judgment of God; 2:6 who "will pay back to everyone according to their works:"{Psalm 62:12; Proverbs 24:12}

A person goes to a pawn shop to purchases a diamond, and gives the owner a penny, and the owner says” “ Are you joking a penny for a real diamond worth thousands of dollars!” Should the buyer become offended like a fool because they think their wants for a diamond out weighs the worth of a precious stone? Should they become hateful and condescending using abusive words to belittle the owner whom told them a penny can't purchases a precious stone?

James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire. The world of iniquity among our members is the tongue, which defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature, and is set on fire by Gehenna.{or, Hell}
3:7 For every kind of animal, bird, creeping thing, and thing in the sea, is tamed, and has been tamed by mankind.
3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water? 3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.

None of us could imagines some one could be so unreasonable, but many are now day's when it comes to their self-evaluation of their personal worth. Can you imagine a world where each person decides what their personal worth is? Where they hate and slander anyone not allowing them into the top position of business, government, or religion, by their self-estimation of their value to the institution?

Proverbs 10:8 The wise in heart accept commandments, but a chattering fool will fall.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but he who is wise listens to counsel.

Proverbs 14:16 A wise man fears, and shuns evil, but the fool is hotheaded and reckless.

Proverbs 17:10 A rebuke enters deeper into one who has understanding than a hundred lashes into a fool.

Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own opinion.

Can you just imagine people declaring themselves qualified without having standards, and when they don't have enough worth in education, and experience for the position they become offended and cry out that people are making them have negative feelings about themselves because they say they are not worthy of a position!

Proverbs 23:9 Don't speak in the ears of a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of your words.

Proverbs 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.

Actually, many people uses this scam because it gets result, so we have become politically correct in not offending the high-mindedness of people in saying you don't have enough personal worth to meet the requirement of a certain position in life. We are not saying you can't increase your worth, but a penny will not buy a diamond for if it could the diamond would be worthless, so why would we make a position worthless by trying to get it for a penny? Moreover, why would we claim our own worth telling the person that we are entitled to the position when we are not qualified to have it? In other words, if we allow people the right to determine how much something is worth, than most likely it will become worthless, common place, having no value something anyone can have so we don't reject their good feelings about themselves, God for bid!

Proverbs 26:12 Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

Proverbs 27:22 Though you grind a fool in a mortar with a pestle along with grain, yet his foolishness will not be removed from him.

Confusing Worth With Feelings

Many today as Christian's become highly offend when they are told they are a sinner, and because they are a sinner they have no personal worth to redeem themselves, they are under a gift of undeserved kindness, they cannot make themselves worthy by feelings, thoughts or actions. They must let another person worth redeem them so they can be righteous before God.

Luke 16:10 He who is faithful in a very little is faithful also in much. He who is dishonest in a very little is also dishonest in much.

Proverbs 20:6 Many men claim to be men of unfailing love, but who can find a faithful man?

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Some are at first willing to accept this condition of their worth, but later as they grow in understanding doing various good works in the name of Christ they find such talk mundane and worthless, because they have move past being a sinner, into being righteous, and their good evaluation of their worth becomes all important. They wish to move on into the so called meat of prophecy, the deep calculations of biblical times tables and unlock hidden secrets of the scriptures accounting themselves worthy to do so. Yes, by their position as a special person in Christ. Their personal evaluation of what is important as a Christian's with greater worth, which they teach and push off on others, so they become highly offend when some tells them they are not the judge of their worth, or position, or what is important in the scriptures that is in God's jurisdiction, which he has placed in Christ the head of his congregation, and we are but servant, not leaders, or the head of the congregation.

1Cor.4:1 So let a man think of us as Christ's servants, and stewards of God's mysteries. 4:2 Here, moreover, it is required of stewards, that they be found faithful. 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self. 4:4 For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord. 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

A Servants Worth

What is our hand worth? Very much, and its is loved, without it life would become much more difficult would it not? But whom decides the worth of the hand in the body? Does the hand declare: “Pay attention to my worth to the head of the body?”

John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world can't receive; for it doesn't see him, neither knows him. You know him, for he lives with you, and will be in you.

Does the hand have a separated worth from the body? Is it a stand alone body member having a self-appointed worth? In other words, why would the hand worry about its worth when being in the body, the body gives it its worth? Is the hand not a servant of the body, is it not part of the body? Does the hand impute evil to other body members, does it boast in its worth as having a special place in the body. Does the hand judge itself at all?

1 Corinthians 2:14 Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

Christian's are given their worth by being part of Christ body members. It is not their worth as a sinner so that may think they have enough personal worth to have the top position, trading a penny for a diamond. The worth is given too them by God, not by God's nice feelings about them as a sinner, no! The worth they are given is from a free gift valued so high that not one person on this earth could purchase it as a sinner. God is not a fool that one can pay a penny for his undeserved kindness given in Christ Jesus precious life.

2 Corinthians 6:1 Working together, we entreat also that you not receive the grace of God in vain.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 and with all deception of wickedness for those who are being lost, because they didn't receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Galatians 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He doesn't say, "To seeds," as of many, but as of one, "To your seed,"{Genesis 12:7; 13:15; 24:7} which is Christ.

Colossians 1:18 He is the head of the body, the assembly, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

1 Corinthians 12:25 that there should be no division in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.


One should not mock God's kindness or his gift by stating their own worth as equal or better than something unobtainable by human efforts. One should not trample upon the precious blood of Christ as mere nothing placing value of their good feelings over the impartial gift of God in Christ blood. Allowing to think they have special rights over other body members.

James 4:5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, "The Spirit who lives in us yearns jealously"? 4:6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."{Proverbs 3:34} 4:7 Be subject therefore to God. But resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 4:8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 4:9 Lament, mourn, and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to gloom.
4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you. 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge.

One should sober up! Getting proper evaluation of what a sinner is, and why it has cause all death and disease to the human race making sin God's enemy.

1 Peter 1:13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action,{literally, "gird up the waist of your mind"} be sober and set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ--

We are not worthless as God's children because we to stand on a precious diamond worth, not our own, we could not pay for the diamond as a sinner having no power of merit to redeem ourselves, we can, by faith accept the gift, and build our new personality upon the gifts worth coming to us through the body of Christ Jesus as a hand or a member receiving the life blood of the body to feed, and cherish us. But we do not have a separate worth outside of the body of Christ. We do not judge our worth, we have no judgment of ourselves or any body member, because self-worth did not earn us a place as judge in the body of Christ. What has given us worth, is Christ, his righteous sinless life.

1 Peter 1:19 but with precious blood, as of a faultless and pure lamb, the blood of Christ;

1 Peter 2:4 coming to him, a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God, precious.

1 Peter 2:6 Because it is contained in Scripture, "Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, chosen, and precious: He who believes in him will not be disappointed."{Isaiah 28:16}

This is why we are grafted into Christ by being dead in our sinful flesh in Gods eyes. If we are graft into Christ the life of Christ produce all good work in us. One grafts to a good tree to produce good fruit, the branch does not produce fruit without the tree. There no high-mindedness in the branches position or self- evaluation of its worth to the tree. It position is to produce fruit by the life of the tree not to declare its own worth to the pickers of the fruit. People don't stand in awe of a branch giving it credit, they stand in awe of the tree giving it credit for giving it good fruit.

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me.
15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
15:6 If a man doesn't remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
15:7 If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you.
15:8 "In this is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; and so you will be my disciples.
15:9 Even as the Father has loved me, I also have loved you. Remain in my love.


Feeling Do Not Produce Fruits of Righteousness

None of us like being abused, but shame on the person whom claims God or Christ abused them as a branch, it not possible, and it is a lie. Shame on the person for putting their self-worth above the tree Christ Jesus. And shame on you for playing a victim in Christ because false religion abused you.

Matt.7:7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened for you. 7:8 For everyone who asks receives. He who seeks finds. To him who knocks it will be opened.
7:9 Or who is there among you, who, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? 7:10 Or if he asks for a fish, who will give him a serpent? 7:11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

God does not abuse with evil gifts so those with tender feelings, those thinking the truth is to harsh to hear, they need to sober up in righteousness, and stop blaming humans, and God for saying we do not have enough worth to be Christ Jesus equal! The abuse, all abuse comes from mankind's high mindedness in thinking they are better position than their brothers. Abuse comes from those watering down the bible truth so they can feel better about themselves, the bible does not abuse people. People abuse people just like a knife does not abuse people it is people using the knife for unrighteous purposes that cause the abuse to others.

Proverbs 24:24 He who says to the wicked, "You are righteous;" peoples shall curse him, and nations shall abhor him--

Proverbs 29:27 A dishonest man detests the righteous, and the upright in their ways detest the wicked.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 Surely there is not a righteous man on earth, who does good and doesn't sin.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

God does not take mankind's definition of worth over his supreme Kingship in telling us what we are worth as sinners. God does not kiss mankind's mouth so they can live in sin, or condone sin to make a better yeast pie to fall in love with. God from start to finish wars with human sin and its reasoning he will erratic it from the human race and those humble enough to accept God position will find life. Those rejecting the truth and loving the lie will die in their sin.

Job 11:4 For you say, 'My doctrine is pure. I am clean in your eyes.'

Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one.

Job 33:9 'I am clean, without disobedience. I am innocent, neither is there iniquity in me.

Psalms 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God. Renew a right spirit within me.

Sin and the condition of sin is dead to God, it has no worth, it has no value at all to God. If that hurts your tender feeling making you negative than God will seem evil to you and those preaching the truth of the scriptures will be hated by you.

Colossians 2:13 You were dead through your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh. He made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses.

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.

God kills sin, he puts us to death in our sinful flesh, he does not dance with our sinful flesh claiming its feelings and thinking are good, he does not say: “Stay in your sins, and I will put my Holy Spirit in you so you can feel good about religious abuse!”

1Cor.1:29 that no flesh should boast before God.
1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1:31 that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24}

What he says is: “Come up here to a my standards of truth, accept my ways are higher than you sinful thoughts. Humbly yourselves and I will redeem you as mine. I will provide for you and love you, but you have to leave off from loving the world and its unrighteous thinking.”

Rom.7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.
Rom.7:17 So now it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me. 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good. 7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.

Gal.5:24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. 5:25 If we live by the Spirit, let's also walk by the Spirit. 5:26 Let's not become conceited, provoking one another, and envying one another.

Christ never spoke of his wonderful feeling, he never said how worthy he was, none of the apostle did either. Did they suffer rejection and dejection, having feelings like ours, they certain did. Did God comfort them with his love, by Holy Spirit? Yes? Did he put their ways higher than his, did he come down from heaven and accept their human emotions as righteous? No? God fixed the problem how? By giving them a new mind without fear and trembling, he brought them up on his mountain by peace of Holy Spirit so they could understand the power and truth in Christ Jesus.

Heb.12:18 For you have not come to a mountain that might be touched, and that burned with fire, and to blackness, darkness, storm, 12:19 the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which those who heard it begged that not one more word should be spoken to them, 12:20 for they could not stand that which was commanded, "If even an animal touches the mountain, it shall be stoned{TR adds "or shot with an arrow" [see Exodus 19:12-13]};"{Exodus 19:12-13} 12:21 and so fearful was the appearance, that Moses said, "I am terrified and trembling."{Deuteronomy 9:19}
12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable multitudes of angels, 12:23 to the general assembly and assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 12:24 to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant,{Jeremiah 31:31} and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better than that of Abel.
12:25 See that you don't refuse him who speaks. For if they didn't escape when they refused him who warned on the Earth, how much more will we not escape who turn away from him who warns from heaven, 12:26 whose voice shook the earth then, but now he has promised, saying, "Yet once more I will shake not only the earth, but also the heavens."{Haggai 2:6} 12:27 This phrase, "Yet once more," signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that have been made, that those things which are not shaken may remain. 12:28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can't be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe, 12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.{Deuteronomy 4:24}

He did not lower his standards so mankind can continue in death from sin, he did not say a little leaven of sinful thoughts will make things more understandable to those suffer with feelings of rejection. No! He told the truth, stop putting faith in yourselves, stop putting faith in mankind or some teacher to deliver you from the worthless feeling of sin. Stop idolizing human as God's and their feelings. Stop! “Come to me, let me teach you, let me give you worth, let me educate you in my ways, let me judge what is good and what is evil, let me rule as your King”

James 5:14 Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the assembly, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord, 5:15 and the prayer of faith will heal him who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. If he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 5:16 Confess your offenses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective. 5:17 Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain, and it didn't rain on the earth for three years and six months.
5:18 He prayed again, and the sky gave rain, and the earth brought forth its fruit. 5:19 Brothers, if any among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
5:20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins.

2Thess.2:1 Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him, we ask you
2:2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come. 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 2:4 he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God.

Apostasy starts with mankind and his personal worth, and it ends in Christ who has the truth and worth of God. We are not truth, we are not good outside of Christ worth, we are not making ourselves righteous, we are not equal to Christ worth by our feelings or efforts. We are in Christ and boast in him alone as impaled for us.

Revelation 5:2 I saw a mighty angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the book, and to break its seals?"

Revelation 5:4 And I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open the book, or to look in it.

Revelation 5:9 They sang a new song, saying, "You are worthy to take the book, and to open its seals: for you were killed, and bought us for God with your blood, out of every tribe, language, people, and nation.

Rev. 4:9 When the living creatures give glory, honor, and thanks to him who sits on the throne, to him who lives forever and ever,
4:10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne, and worship him who lives forever and ever, and throw their crowns before the throne, saying, 4:11 "Worthy are you, our Lord and God, the Holy One,{TR omits "and God, the Holy One,"} to receive the glory, the honor, and the power, for you created all things, and because of your desire they existed, and were created!"


Completed on: 10-18-2014

by: Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus