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A Voice Not Heard in The Streets

Matt.12:19 He will not strive, nor shout; neither will anyone hear his voice in the streets.

How could Christ voice not be heard in the streets? Everyone in Jerusalem was speaking about Christ, his works, and his words? How could his voice not be heard in the streets if the bible is truth? Christ was not hiding in the dark from the publicly, he taught in publicly, daily!

John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Here is a truth overlooked by many Christian's who desire very much to have their words heard in the street, and published from the house tops into all the world! This is the pushes of every Christian's organization on earth, which is also inculcated into to their disciples, so much so that in their flesh they feel unworthy, inadequate, if they are not making constant gains in writings, disciples, and numbers, believing it is a lack faith if growth is not happening! But Christ was not heard in the streets the very example each Christian's is patterned after, and must follow, so what point are we missing here?

John 6:27 Don't work for the food which perishes, but for the food which remains to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For God the Father has sealed him."
6:28 They said therefore to him, "What must we do, that we may work the works of God?" 6:29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."

Hearing The Voice of Christian's

Christ had a voice, a voice spoken through Holy Spirit, not a voice of sinful flesh, striving in works, but instead in the works in believing, not a voice trained in some ministry school, but the voice of God speaking through Christ in parables to most in Jerusalem who where doing the works of man from the flesh. Yes, they heard, but they did not hear what the God's Spirit was actually telling them.

They consumed words of God, but they produce not Spirit, and truth, but words of their flesh. A dog can eat cat food, but it will not produce kittens, nor will a dog act like a cat by consuming cat food, when dog eats cat food it can produces only the works of a dog!

Those consuming food written by Spirit on paper will not become a spirit person, which is a whole new creation, created by Spirit. This truth is very deceptive for our fleshly minds, a corrupted mind from sin, which believes if the works is good from us we have become a spiritual person born of Spirit of God. But this was not the truth Christ spoke to the teachers of Israel. What is the food of a spirit person born of God, food from other flesh, food from the bible, or food of the Spirit in God's manna, Christ Jesus, a spirit person?

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!

Flesh and blood (teachers) could not reveal God to the Jews, it must come from Spirit to reveal Spirit, which is the truth. Truth and Spirit does not come from flesh under sin, which is born to live a lie by the ever changing emotions of our sinful flesh. God is truth, no lie in found in truth, God's emotions are not controlled by the emotions of our flesh.

Gal.5:13 For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don't use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

What reveals light? It must be light, not darkness, what is life revealed by? Life, not death! This speech is shocking to those Christian's with fleshly minds whom can't stand to hear Christ was not popular, he was not loved by flesh, which is the world according to their bibles, he was not heard by them anymore so than Christ is heard today by our world for those with fleshly ears.

John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world didn't recognize him.

John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world can't receive; for it doesn't see him, neither knows him. You know him, for he lives with you, and will be in you.

John 6:48 I am the bread of life.

John 6:50 This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, that anyone may eat of it and not die.

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh."

So has the word of God gone forth into all the world through the pushing of religious organization? The question is, has the world heard Christ voice by Holy Spirit? The world can hear words written by Spirit on paper from their bibles, words taught by flesh, and blood, pushed by flesh, and blood, but not the truth the truth by Spirit cannot be revealed by the striving and shouting of the flesh, which wars with other flesh. Truth of Spirit must be revealed by Spirit from above, and not that born of flesh here below. But if one is born of flesh. and eat spiritual food will it make them a new creation? Will they transform themselves into the body of Christ? Will they rather put on an act like Christ, while still being in their flesh? Thinking they are acting like Christ in mock up of what a person imagines him to be by reading about Christ personality? But has God given them the personality of Christ by God's Holy Spirit by being born new into his body? This is a profound thought of why false religion exist today upon earth while those in it sincerely think they are teaching nothing but the Christ. Moreover, how could that be when Christ is not known to the world?

Matthew 11:27 All things have been delivered to me by my Father. No one knows the Son, except the Father; neither does anyone know the Father, except the Son, and he to whom the Son desires to reveal him.

No Boasting in Flesh!

God owns this world, and everything in it, man under sin does not own the rulership of this world. Man's thoughts created by sin and their ideas are alienated from God thoughts, no matter if they are done in God name or His Son name! God speaks to us human in truth and Spirit in our times, not campaigns done by false religion of flesh and blood. Actually mocking God as though he is weak and mankind is the creator of humans, and determines whom hears, and does not hear the voice of Christ, by their works, such conduct is wickedness!

Isa.40:5 The glory of Yahweh shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together; for the mouth of Yahweh has spoken it." 40:6 The voice of one saying, "Cry!" One said, "What shall I cry?" "All flesh is like grass, and all its glory is like the flower of the field.
40:7 The grass withers, the flower fades, because Yahweh's breath blows on it. Surely the people are like grass. 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades; but the word of our God stands forever." 1 John 4:5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak of the world, and the world hears them.

The new heavens, and the new earth are not created by mankind's mind or hands at all! Nothing in man mind or power controls God, or his power to work, and do his work in heaven or upon earth. There will be no boasting in flesh, and its works before the rulership of Christ. Christ voice is not heard in the street because human of flesh and blood preach a message from a bible or a religion. The message must come from above, from God, who's Spirit, which Spirit reveals it to us. The teaching of Spirit of God writes into our hearts is truth having peace and silents created in Christ image by his personality. The working of God is far from the works of the flesh in wranglings. Which flesh cannot hear, or listen to because it is not born of Spirit. Thus, the flesh must take from God and make it into their the food of flesh creating darkness, and not light which darkness will permeates and corrupt the truth of Spirit the same corruption found in all the world of mankind into death, darkness, darkness is not light, and yeast is not unleavened bread!

Psalms 29:11 Yahweh will give strength to his people. Yahweh will bless his people with peace.

James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

2 Timothy 2:22 Flee from youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

The World Did Not Know Christ

Mankind in their arrogance thinks they can reveal the truth of God to all flesh, and/or the Christ to this world, but even the person they claim to represent did not do that? Christ was not known by the world he was sent into world and God revealed his son by his Spirit to those he would chose to hears or not. So why would someone push so hard going beyond the Son of God into revealing Christ to others, or the world, using the power of flesh, by all its unrighteous tools, and tactics? It is because they are fleshly themselves in their thinking, failing to understand it is a lack of faith in them that removes trust for God's Spirit in revealing truth of Christ to others. It is the same lack of faith all governments, religions, and business practice in promoting the good they do to the world!

Romans 5:1 Being therefore justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Romans 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith says this, "Don't say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'{Deuteronomy 30:12} (that is, to bring Christ down);

Romans 10:8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth, and in your heart;"{Deuteronomy 30:14} that is, the word of faith, which we preach:

Yes, it is having no faith in God that pushes our flesh by fleshly emotions to preach for false religion making weeds in the name of Christ. Where each person must strive with flesh; within themselves, and others to be successful, making gains at all cost to prove they are doing the works of God. But is God not successful in being heard? Does God require the same mundane unrighteous fleshly thinking to make His voice heard into all the world? Does he have to have people of flesh reveal truth and Spirit too others?

Jeremiah 22:29 O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of Yahweh.

Rom.10:16 But they didn't all listen to the glad news. For Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed our report?"{Isaiah 53:1} 10:17 So faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 10:18 But I say, didn't they hear? Yes, most certainly, "Their sound went out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world."{Psalm 19:4}

Isa.40:13 Who has directed the Spirit of Yahweh, or has taught him as his counselor?
40:14 Who did he take counsel with, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of justice, and taught him knowledge, and showed him the way of understanding?

Presumptuousness is a working of the fallen flesh, it has overtaken those claiming to have made God's name known to the world? Why did Christ not make himself and his Father name known to the world? Why didn't the world known the Father or the Son, was Christ lying? Did Christ promote the works of flesh in printing God's name over and over again, was Christ lacking? Did God fail in speaking to His creation, humans? Was God playing a numbers game by twisting words into boasting in numbers and disciples willing to cut people off from eternal if they did not meet certain numbers? Was God in heaven wring his hands because the charts showed the preaching work was slowing down? Does God play human unrighteous fleshly fear games? Like "I must knock on each door or the person will be cut of into eternal death if I miss a number on this street? Does God require a bible study for eternal life, does he make such mandatory? Is this the God of works of law Christ Jesus served and taught his disciples about?

John 18:37 Pilate therefore said to him, "Are you a king then?" Jesus answered, "You say that I am a king. For this reason I have been born, and for this reason I have come into the world, that I should testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice."

John 18:20 Jesus answered him, "I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues, and in the temple, where the Jews always meet. I said nothing in secret.

John 17:25 Righteous Father, the world hasn't known you, but I knew you; and these knew that you sent me.

Sharing or Taking?

Does a vessel take, or share? Does a vessel become the creator because it was created by the creators hands? Does a vessel have a mind of its own, which takes, and than tells the maker of it what to put into it? Does the vessel have a will of its own, or of its creator? What its purpose for the vessel creation, the will of the vessel, or the will of its creator? What is the purpose of all Christian's? What are they created new for as a vessel of God? Is it not to do the will God, or of a religions, or some other man's flesh thinking, so is it?

How can a person be at peace with God, and the will of their flesh at the same time? Is it possible to have two wills in one vessel competing and doing works for the maker of the vessel? Is the vessel created for God's will? But how many Christian's can't tell if they are doing God's will when struggling, and contending with their own flesh,or sadly through someone else flesh by control of an religion by using power of God's word through works of law; creating guilt to motivate flesh into further acts of the flesh? So whose will are they doing? Theirs or God's? Can flesh and blood reveal the truth? Or are we as Christian's in a constant state of distrust for others, and God's motives so we preach from fear of our flesh, which is a paramount lack of faith thinking God's Holy Spirit is weak without our efforts in pushing the flesh into some works for God?

Rom.11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

Rom.9:18 So then, he has mercy on whom he desires, and he hardens whom he desires. 9:19 You will say then to me, "Why does he still find fault? For who withstands his will?" 9:20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed ask him who formed it, "Why did you make me like this?"{Isaiah 29:16; 45:9} 9:21 Or hasn't the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel for honor, and another for dishonor? 9:22 What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath made for destruction, 9:23 and that he might make known the riches of his glory on vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory,

In this state of distrust we are not doing the will of God, but instead the will of our flesh where we must constantly come up with some new truth or idea to feel we are doing the will of God? Is that what Christ actually taught his disciples to do? Why would they not know if they are doing the will of God, if they were created by God to do his will, has God failed?

James 4:1 Where do wars and fightings among you come from? Don't they come from your pleasures that war in your members? 4:2 You lust, and don't have. You kill, covet, and can't obtain. You fight and make war. You don't have, because you don't ask. 4:3 You ask, and don't receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it for your pleasures. 4:4 You adulterers and adulteresses, don't you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 4:5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, "The Spirit who lives in us yearns jealously"? 4:6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."{Proverbs 3:34}

Simply because they are of the flesh listening to others flesh as to what God's will is for them. They are not of the Spirit nor do they care what God's will is for them in the Spirit, they care what man thinks is God's will for them? Thus, they are in a state of fear, and judgment, because they doing the will of the flesh, their own or someone Else's, which flesh has fear of judgment and can't will itself out of fear, so it lies to others, by doing works of law.

John 5:30 I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don't seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me.

John 12:47 If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn't believe, I don't judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

Ephesians 3:12 in whom we have boldness and access in confidence through our faith in him.

Did They Fail to Hear?

The fear that drives all flesh is death, not life. The fear of death is part of the fleshly mind and can change by eating spirit food from the bible. So the flesh in this world always has guilt of not doing enough while in the world, which is a lack of faith in God. The flesh is a mockery of God and his Son's Jesus Christ words. This lack of faith and judgment of flesh cause a practiced into all segments of this world from its beginning in making a lasting name on earth so other flesh can glorify giving them a eternal name on earth, which is a myth. It is factually against the truth God revealed to us by Holy Spirit, which is eternal life based not upon works law, or beating the flesh into doing works of God to gain merit before man which than gives us passage into eternal life with God is a lie!

Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore draw near with boldness to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy, and may find grace for help in time of need.

Will any of us stand before God and says: “God you failed mankind, because they did not all hear your words to be saved!” Will you judge God wicked to prove your flesh righteous because it lust out of fear of judgment, striving and fighting, being heard loud in the streets like wicked waves of the sea of humanity that never clams down? Which it cannot stop because of its unrighteous spirit of the fleshly mind?

Isaiah 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea; for it can't rest, and its waters cast up mire and dirt.

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

1 John 5:14 This is the boldness which we have toward him, that, if we ask anything according to his will, he listens to us.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

No human will fail to hear God's voice, God does not fail, he allows us to bear his fruit, doing his will, if the will of our own flesh is dead to Him in Christ. The great fear to the flesh comes from its own self-righteous that must judged other works creating a need to compete with others making their works greater or more important than someone else; pushing them into works of law in the name of God, done by their flesh, which works pales into shame from their lack of faith in God's power. The same power they boast in being born again from by His Spirit. The good done in works of their flesh does not outweigh the evil in their lack of faith found in a person heart by fear of not doing enough or being as good as someone else works for God. This fear is a loss of control found their flesh under judgment by the same knowledge they are judging others works by.

Matt.24:48 But if that evil servant should say in his heart, 'My lord is delaying his coming,' 24:49 and begins to beat his fellow servants, and eat and drink with the drunkards, 24:50 the lord of that servant will come in a day when he doesn't expect it, and in an hour when he doesn't know it, 24:51 and will cut him in pieces, and appoint his portion with the hypocrites. There is where the weeping and grinding of teeth will be.

Forgetting that it was a lack of faith in God's power Israel failed in time and again over!

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

Ephesians 3:20 Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us.

God's Works or Man?

Mankind has had for thousand's of years the freedom do their own works upon earth. They have taken God's words from the bible built nations, creating great works, and great religions, but all has failed! Not one work of mankind's by fears found in their flesh from lack of faith and love for God has created life in one of their members. It has not created the Son of God indwelling them by their good works, or his created members for Christ kingdom! Not one work of mankind's has produced a lasting paradise where sin is no more, death. Not one word of mankind spoken has raised the dead, made unrighteous, righteous, not one work has redeem a brother!

Haggai 2:12 'If someone carries holy meat in the fold of his garment, and with his fold touches bread, stew, wine, oil, or any food, will it become holy?'" The priests answered, "No."

Matthew 9:17 Neither do people put new wine into old wineskins, or else the skins would burst, and the wine be spilled, and the skins ruined. No, they put new wine into fresh wineskins, and both are preserved."

1Cor.3:3 for you are still fleshly. For insofar as there is jealousy, strife, and factions among you, aren't you fleshly, and don't you walk in the ways of men? 3:4 For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," aren't you fleshly?
3:5 Who then is Apollos, and who is Paul, but servants through whom you believed; and each as the Lord gave to him? 3:6 I planted. Apollos watered. But God gave the increase.
3:7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. 3:8 Now he who plants and he who waters are the same, but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor. 3:9 For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's farming, God's building.

Christian's should not be shocked at the very truth found in their bibles that God Kingdom is not built by human hands; God is going to bring to ruin all that mankind has built by their good thoughts and works. The world mankind they are promoting is dying daily was not created by God.d, it never has been, and mixing life into death is a illusion which is a lie creating more corruption and death, as all false religion does. It is a world alienated from God, and his purposes, and that is why the world does not know the voice of Christ, just as it did not know Christ when he was in his flesh speaking daily in the public squares.

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him. 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's. 2:17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

Hearing God's Voice

We as Christian's are to hear the voice of God (Spirit) upon his terms, and not ours, we cannot tell God how we will listen, and when we will listen! Let alone go beyond his works into our works of the unrighteously flesh labeling those works, his work, for our needs of our fearful flesh in not doing enough good works to have eternal life!

1Cor.3:11 For no one can lay any other foundation than that which has been laid, which is Jesus Christ. 3:12 But if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, or stubble; 3:13 each man's work will be revealed. For the Day will declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself will test what sort of work each man's work is. 3:14 If any man's work remains which he built on it, he will receive a reward.
3:15 If any man's work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire. 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you? 3:17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for God's temple is holy, which you are. 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone thinks that he is wise among you in this world, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.

Ecclesiastes 1:15 That which is crooked can't be made straight; and that which is lacking can't be counted.

Our life is totally dependent upon God's word, Christ Jesus, the word of God (Spirit). He has the saying of everlasting life (Spirit), we do not (flesh), we have the saying of death. God send us life, and his word, Christ Jesus, he revealed his Son to those he wanted to, and for reasons we do not completely understand? We are to have faith in God's works, and his goodness so we can share in it by God's will and Christ direction as are head. Trusting in them as if we are walking on water. That is, not by our power, but God's power from God's word Christ Jesus a mighty spirit person speaking for God in our day.

Isaiah 42:16 I will bring the blind by a way that they don't know. I will lead them in paths that they don't know. I will make darkness light before them, and crooked places straight. I will do these things, and I will not forsake them.

1 Peter 2:25 For you were going astray like sheep; but now have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer{"Overseer" is from the Greek episkopon, which can mean overseer, curator, guardian, or superintendent.} of your souls.

This is not a new concept it is the foundational truth of the entire bible the very step Adam and Eve failed in. They wanted to mix their works into God's works, and found out God does not mix two world or two minds leading one body. Adam and Eve found themselves in their own world by their own choice, and will cast outside of God's world, which was created for them by God's righteous hands (Spirit). A world they had been place into by God's Spirit!

Genesis 3:17 To Adam he said, "Because you have listened to your wife's voice, and have eaten of the tree, of which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground for your sake. In toil you will eat of it all the days of your life.

Hebrews 6:8 but if it bears thorns and thistles, it is rejected and near being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

Rev.22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev.22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book. 22:19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. 22:20 He who testifies these things says, "Yes, I come quickly." Amen! Yes, come, Lord Jesus. 22:21 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with all the saints. Amen.

Striving in the fears of their flesh did not created a paradise once Adam and Eve were put out of the garden. Their works produced death, and not a lasting name of their great works for God they had imagined in their fleshly minds. They went back to the dust from which they came, and so did their fears, jealousy, hates and striving with others in the flesh perished and were remembered no more accept says all memory of them depended upon God's power just as it always had, if they had thought from the mind of God, instead the mind alienated from God, the flesh.

Christian's are not born again from the will of their flesh to strive with flesh as doing God's works. They are created new, for the will of the one whom created them, and placed them into paradise in the life of Christ Jesus, which life produce the fruit of Christ works as a faithful slave.

2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we don't wage war according to the flesh;

2 Corinthians 10:4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the throwing down of strongholds.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

They are not slaves of their own fleshly mind pushing and determining what works Christ is doing, or if they are doing his works? They are living in faith that Christ is the tree of life, they are his fruit, and he will produce fruit on them if they remain in him as the vine. They listen to the Spirit, not the fleshly which lust and yearns jealousy in its members. If that work is mundane to the flesh, not exciting enough, or is not what they want to hear or teach, or does not make them great in name among other flesh, than perhaps, they are teaching truth by Spirit. Nevertheless, the flesh does not judge the Spirit it can't so it cannot know the working of the Spirit blinded to its eyes by the veiled lies of our fallen flesh and its lust!

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruptibly.

This is called faith, making our flesh do works, and than saying they are Christ works does not make them of Christ, Christ gives us works just as our body gives each member works, not out of fear, but love, not after striving, in proof we are a member of that body, or that knowledge is more important than faith, given too us by the body in God's love. Nor fear in our flesh that the body will be lost if our knowledge is not given through the power of striving in our flesh. Nor fear of the flesh that a member of the body of Christ will cast out because it is depended upon us and our knowledge to save what Christ has already saved. How foolish and self-arrogant is the hand of the body which thinking so unrighteously, and weakly of God power working in his son's?

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

Christ Body Not Known by The World

How can a body member go beyond the body they are attached to without dying from lack of blood? How can a body member of Christ go beyond the will of the body, and not die spiritually?

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 15:6 If a man doesn't remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
15:7 If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you.

Christ was not known by the world, thus, his voice was not heard by the world. Was this a lack of faith on Christ part? Frankly, how stupid is that reasoning? It is so stupid it is one hundred and eighty degrees the opposite of Christ faith in God's power; who taught that nothing would be lost by him? Now that is real faith in God's power, not his the flesh power, it was Christ faith in God's love, and not his own will that saves those in the world coming to worship God in Spirit and truth. It was faith in the power of God's Spirit, and not power of human's who are false gods. The lie Satan told us as the father of the first lie.

Adam and Eve could have believed in God's power, in his goodness, and his love, or they could chose their own goodness. No work of the flesh was involved in their creation, or the garden they were placed into accept to believe in God, nothing more!

Why than would any brother or sister in Christ, that is, claiming to be part of his body think they will be known by the world or heard by it? How have they gotten around the power of God which Christ himself said God's truth must be revealed from (above)? Why would they take, instead of giving what God has created them to give pertaining to salvation freely?

1 Corinthians 2:4 My speech and my preaching were not in persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power.

1 Corinthians 2:12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?

2 Corinthians 3:3 being revealed that you are a letter of Christ, served by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tablets of stone, but in tablets that are hearts of flesh.

2 Corinthians 3:6 who also made us sufficient as servants of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

2 Corinthians 3:8 won't service of the Spirit be with much more glory?

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord, the Spirit.

Completed on: January 08, 2015

by: Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus

Addition thoughts:

Col.3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
3:4 When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory.

Many of men and woman since Christ have sought hard to be glorified upon earth, while in their flesh for Christ name. In fact, the truth be told it is the Christian's way in our times - making a name for oneself in Christ name. Building a world wide ministry, if were not growing in fame we are not doing the will of our Father in heaven. So in grained is this lust for power and fame in the ministry many have gone into death feeling disappointed their ministry wasn't great enough.

John 8:50 But I don't seek my own glory. There is one who seeks and judges.

John 8:54 Jesus answered, "If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is our God.

But conspicuously missing from the Christ, and his apostles is that argument for greatness in their minister upon earth, but why such a stark contrast between to days Christian's and the early Christian's? First and foremost God's glorification does not come to a Christian's until he/she is resurrected with Christ, until then their true worth to mankind is hidden in Christ, but why?

Romans 1:23 and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

Romans 8:19 For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

Well, Christianity is really simple! We have our example, and we are pattern after our example, and who is that? Christ Jesus, we are not a lone wolf, we are instead purchase for Christ by his blood for his body. In other words, Christ is still working in his body for what purpose? The setting of creation free of the corruption from sin and death. Christ is not building kingdoms upon this earth in the name of some religion, and if you can't or won't believe that than you are faced with a perplexing question, and what is that? Christ stated his Kingdom is not part of this world, and was put to death for saying such. Next Christ tells his disciples they would be hated by this world and unknown by it just as he was!

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all be revealed before the judgment seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Peter 5:4 When the chief Shepherd is revealed, you will receive the crown of glory that doesn't fade away.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!

John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My Kingdom is not of this world. If my Kingdom were of this world, then my servants would fight, that I wouldn't be delivered to the Jews. But now my Kingdom is not from here."

But lastly and more importantly which Christian's religion out of the 51-thousand of them today upon earth don't produce good and bad fruit on the same tree? If you love truth than you must speak truth, all religion on earth have two types of fruit good and bad. So if Christ Kingdom is part of this world and its religions that why did he say a good tree cannot have “any” bad fruit? Than he said a bad tree cannot produce good fruit?

James 3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water? 3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.

Matt. 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

Now if you read the words above by the apostle Paul in context to the example we are to follow (Christ) they will make perfect sense. Christ Kingdom is free from the corruption of all this world and things in this world. Those made apart of Christ are freed from sin, and are hid with Christ, and when they die in their flesh than like Christ they will be glorified for his kingdom and not any other upon earth including their own.

Galatians 4:26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Philippians 2:9 Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name;

Colossians 3:1 If then you were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.

This leaves the flesh powerless, and squarely put all power and glory for Christ Kingdom in the hands of Holy Spirit. Now if you read Colossians in context you will find this is what Christ did for his body members taking away the power of the flesh, killing it, stripping all power and authority for God's Kingdom from mankind's efforts, placing power and authority in Christ upon his own glorification at his resurrection not before - proving Satan a liar.

Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule, and authority, and power, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come.

Ephesians 3:20 Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us.