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The book of Romans

Chapter 7

****Rom.7:1 Or don't you know, brothers{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} (for I speak to men who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man for as long as he lives?

The apostles Paul make a simple statement that applies to all human on earth, and what is that? He states when a person dies the laws of those living has no power over them any longer. So many Christian's are mystified with Paul's words in this part of his letter to the Roman's, thinking there is some profound meaning to a simple fact of our lives? When we die the laws of the land, that is, all laws including, work, religion, family. Hence the person dead can no longer be convicted of breaking laws they are dead, gone, the laws of the living has no power, or authority over them any longer.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead don't know anything, neither do they have any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Paul, however, is being point specific to God's law here given through Moses, where God gave Israel a covenant, which included the law. Somehow, these brothers and sisters could not get the simple fact that all laws for the living loses there power over the dead. Instead they somehow thought that God's laws continued on after death, why? Possibly, because God gave it, their thinking that the perfect law of God could not end even after death, perhaps, as God is living so must the law live, erronously thinking God's own angles were under the same law judgments?

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

Subsequently, because of such error in thinking the apostle Paul writes one of the most controversial chapters of our bibles still not wholly understood by the majority of modern day Christian's. Paul makes it clear he speaks to men who know the law so there should be no confusion about the law, but there is? Much confusion and a real effort to put the body of Christ back under it enslaving them once again to sins laws, dying twice to sin so to speak. Death ends the power of the law over the those living under its authority, that is, the wages of sin is death. Any person born into sin, must die, with no exception, why? Simple put, the payment for sin according to God's righteous law is death, nothing else satifies the laws judgment for breaking it.

James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart from works is dead.

Eccl.9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in Sheol, where you are going.

Once we die, the law is dead as well over us, it hold's no power to punish and condemn the dead. The payment for sin has been satisfied. It does not matter if that sin be little in mankind's eyes or not? It does not matter if man's law does not judged it as wicked, if a person sin's once they must die! (Such is human reasoning we are born into sin, thus, we all sin from our birth, we are birth into sin)

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

In fact, we must understand as Christian's the truth of sin, we must comprehend that God is not evil to judge us for our sins, No! Lets put it this way. God's law is hostile towards sinner but why? First, we must acknowledge we human introduce our feelings into judgment, more than almost anything on earth, why? Simple put, it exposes us as not good enough, it is a put down, it shames us. However, that is not the point of God's law, no!

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;

If someone tells us we cannot fly because of the law of gravity, we take no offense no matter how much we desire to fly like a bird. The law of gravity is hostile towards human if they jump off a cliff. If someone tells us we cannot breathe water like a fish, we take no offense, why? Because those judgments are facts they don't judges us personally they apply to everyone equally, these laws of God do not involve human emotion, we accepted them as being out of our control, it not a personal judgment or a put down to us as though we are not good enough.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God.

Hence, such is true of God's law given to Israel, it is a fact that no sinner can keep the law, it is impossible, the law applies to all mankind; a fish cannot breathe air, because its is a fish. Sinner cannot keep God's law because they are born into sin. However, once dead, they don't sin because they are dead, so they cannot break the law any longer. Now with that context we can approach the seventh chapter of Roman's with an unemotional mind and clear heart and listen what the Spirit teaches us.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellence of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Virgin's In Christ

****Rom.7:2 For the woman that has a husband is bound by law to the husband while he lives, but if the husband dies, she is discharged from the law of the husband. 7:3 So then if, while the husband lives, she is joined to another man, she would be called an adulteress. But if the husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she is joined to another man.

What is the power of the law? The power of the law is sin! Now stop and reason, what is the wages of sin? Death! It is only in this context we can comprehend the apostles Paul's words above.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

The law has no power over the dead, why? Simply, because, the dead have stop sinning, they no longer exist in sin, in the sinful flesh, they have paid the price for sin in the flesh, the debt has been paid off, hence, fulfilled by their death, satisfied by paying the amount due for sin. But still those wanting the vengeance of the law to continue on after death into the resurrection of the dead in a Spirit Kingdom, lusting for evil towards those who have done evil to them are not satisfied with the justice of God's righteous law.

James 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge. 4:12 Only one is the lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge another?

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

Paul than takes it one-step further back into the flesh to help these brothers and sisters to understand what authority all law places over the living, but not the dead. Laws can only to evil or good, laws do not have feelings/emotions. Putting laws on paper in legal terms removes the feelings of those practicing the law. The law either, or convicts a person of breaking it, or keeping it, by unemotional words written on paper; the law may exonerate the person as right with the law, and/or righteous (this is where the meaning of the word righteous came from) with the law, or its convicts them without emotion, law has no feelings, it is blind to age, color, wealth, education, and so on . . .

2 Corinthians 3:3 being revealed that you are a letter of Christ, served by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tablets of stone, but in tablets that are hearts of flesh.

2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the service of death, written engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the children of Israel could not look steadfastly on the face of Moses for the glory of his face; which was passing away:

Romans 2:13 For it isn't the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Paul ties his argument to a man headship over his wife, offense? Yes! In a world where men and woman no longer practice headship, where the woman's liberation movement has removed headship by laws from most materialistic societies on earth. Nevertheless, those claiming to be Christian's are still under a headship arrangement rather practiced or not. Subsequently, we must understand what headship is in its proper context for us to comprehend why Paul uses it? He used it, because the headship arrangement was the law of the husband over the woman, his laws were binding upon the woman just as God's laws were binding upon his wife Israel.

1 Peter 3:1 In like manner, wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; so that, even if any don't obey the Word, they may be won by the behavior of their wives without a word;

1 Peter 3:5 For this is how the holy women before, who hoped in God also adorned themselves, being in subjection to their own husbands:

But if the law giver died, his rule of law died with him over his wife. Now God gave Israel the law, as their teacher, their head, because God created the law, and married the nation of Israel by a covenant, he put his headship over Israel. If they practice the laws of the nations, rejecting his laws, they rejected his headship. In other words, his headship did not end because Israel did not want it.

Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that Yahweh your God, he is God, the faithful God, who keeps covenant and loving kindness with them who love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations.

Jeremiah 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departs from her husband, so have you dealt treacherously with me, house of Israel, says Yahweh.

If Israel was unfaithful practicing other laws of the nations, and/or religion she was condemned by her husband's, and God's law as an adulterer, which means adding to the covenant of marriage with her rightful law giver and head, (meaning spiritual intercourse) in this case God and his law. Israel was bound by the husband until she died or God died.

James 4:4 You adulterers and adulteresses, don't you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Revelation 14:4 These are those who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are those who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These were redeemed by Jesus from among men, the first fruits to God and to the Lamb.

The problem was that those born again into Christ were adulterating themselves by placing themselves and newly converted members of the body of Christ back under the law given to Israel. The members of Christ must die in their flesh to be freed of the law of God. That is, to be put under a new law, a new covenant, a new headship, Christ, removing them from the old covenant with its law. Subsequently, that is why, the flesh for a Christian's is of no value at all, it is dead to God by being buried in Christ death. The law for sin holds no power over the dead in Christ any longer.

1Cor. 15:55 O death, where is your power? O death, where are your pains? 15:56 The pain of death is sin; and the power of sin is the law:15:57 But praise be to God who gives us strength to overcome through our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

There are not two headships over Christian's without being unfaithful to their head Christ Jesus; to his rule of law, which astoundingly, is love! This is the context of one of the hardest chapters of the bible for us to understand, why? It is because Christian's are still in their flesh, but considered dead to the law, that is, to sin, while they wrestle in their flesh with sin. Unfortunately, the natural flow is to think with the power of the flesh. Now lets clarify, the power of the law is sin, and it is the most powerful tool ever created to expose sin in us. The deception for those walking in their flesh is to believe the law of God removes their sins from practicing it, by keeping, but it did not!

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The law did not remove sin at all, it exposed sin in us, it excite the sin in us by giving each one of us a magnifying glass to read it clearly. The clearer we could see it the greater its condemnation of us is, increasing its power of death over us. The law shut our mouths from swearing, or cursing to others publicly, but it did not stop or change our hearts into being a non-sinner. Thus, the law jailed a sinner from publicly acting wickedly, they could act like a non-sinner, but inwardly they continued in the truth of their own sinful hearts, hiding it from others by acts of eye service.

Rom.7:8 But sin, finding occasion through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of coveting. For apart from the law, sin is dead. 7:9 I was alive apart from the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
7:10 The commandment, which was for life, this I found to

The law provided sinners with innocent blood to pay the price for the truth of our their real hearts condition before God in being a law breaker, and also for being a law breaker publicly, but the law could not remove sin it was only a temporary solution leading us to the real complete solution, the reality of God, Christ Jesus in complete forgiveness of sin once for all times, Christ Jesus.

Hebrews 9:22 According to the law, nearly everything is cleansed with blood, and apart from shedding of blood there is no remission.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near.

Hebrews 9:26 or else he must have suffered often since the foundation of the world. But now once at the end of the ages, he has been revealed to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Israel chose the law over Christ, they chose self-rightness over the truth of each person flesh. They would rather have the glory of men, the praise of men by acting righteous, than true righteousness found under Christ headship. Now many back then, as is true of today, are seeking the righteousness of the law thinking its strong measure make a person righteous if applied to the flesh. This thinking is adultery to the headship of Christ which freed us from the laws headship. These, falsely believe more is better in this case adding yeast, or two headship to the unleavened bread of God, Christ. It is rather a rejection of the atoning blood of Christ and God's great love in giving us his Son Christ Jesus, who by God's undeserved kindness removed our sins once for all time; for those who have died in Christ and been raised in him, and with him! This adding to the new covenant is like an unfaithful wife who thinks she can have two husbands; two headships, making her life better, by the power of two rules of law over her at the sametime!

Romans 7:6 But now we have been discharged from the law, having died to that in which we were held; so that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter.

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Galatians 2:16 yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law, because no flesh will be justified by the works of the law.

Galatians 2:18 For if I build up again those things which I destroyed, I prove myself a law-breaker.

Galatians 2:19 For I, through the law, died to the law, that I might live to God.

Galatians 2:21 I don't make void the grace of God. For if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing!"

Galatians 5:4 You are alienated from Christ, you who desire to be justified by the law. You have fallen away from grace.

MADE DEAD TO THE LAW

****Rom.7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

Who do we belong to, Christ or the law? Both have great power because both were created by YHWH; righteous, good, and holy. But is Christ and the law in competition with each other? This is an important question, because in the flesh all things are competition with other flesh? Flesh gains merit by comparing itself against flesh by laws of the flesh this is no exaggeration! Without standards set for the flesh there are no rules to compare oneself against to see if we are better than the next guy? Subsequently, there is no competition without rules for the flesh!

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we are not bold to number or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves. But they themselves, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves with themselves, are without understanding.

The problems exist for God's anointed back then at Paul's time, because they were to compare spiritual things against spiritual things if they wanted to know God without competiion? Not spiritual things against fleshly things to know God? Moreover, their wrestling was not against flesh and blood, but against spirit force, evil spirit beings found in heavenly places, not flesh and blood found the on earth. Now to compound this matter more, they were to know no person by the flesh any longer, not even Christ, which some back then actual knew Christ in his flesh!

1Cor.2:12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God. 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.

2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we don't wage war according to the flesh; 10:4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the throwing down of strongholds.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

So was Christ competing for God's children against the law of God given to Moses? No! Isn't this the whole point of the letter to the Roman's? Christ does not compete with the law, the law is dead, it was made dead by Christ! If the flesh is dead in Christ, then the law obviously is dead in Christ, that is, any law, and all laws dealing with our flesh must also be dead, having no power over those living in heaven, (Spirit) without flesh. So how is flesh going to know God if God has no flesh? The bible tells us, our flesh can't know God, it is impossible, but why? Because no sin dwells in God from the flesh, in YHWH, He is not corrupting into death, from sin of the flesh, he has none of our fears, none of our lust common to all flesh that must be battled against, so how could Christ competed with something that is dead, having no power over us any longer, how foolish is the flesh in comparing fleshly things against spiritual things thinking they have found the truth of God, the Spirit?

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one. 1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death. 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers. 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Romans 1:4 who was declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:9 knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!

Romans 6:11 Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

These brothers and sisters were made alive in Christ not by the power of the flesh, that is, not by the power of the law! The law had no power to make a person alive in Christ, that is, in the Spirit, now did it? It is the power of the Spirit that makes a person alive in the Spirit, life must come from life (Spirit). The law produce death, condemning us as sinner, it was written for sinners it was not written for the righteous made alive by Spirit.

1Tim.1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Romans 8:10 If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness.

Fruits of God (life) do not come from a corrupt tree (death), the flesh cannot produce the works of God, now can it? No! Simply follow the pattern of helpful teaching of Christ and a person can draw no other conclusion! Christ is not competing with the law, we are not made alive in the law, however, when we uses the law to build a religion we plant flesh, and a fleshly religion will pops up dead to God (Spiri). One and one does not equal three, flesh cannot be Spirit, and darkness cannot be light, neither mixs the two cannot make anything but a yeast pie, we can only accept such in our fleshly mind.

Matt.7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. 7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit. 7:19 Every tree that doesn't grow good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. 7:20 Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.

Galatians 5:24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

1 Thessalonians 5:5 You are all children of light, and children of the day. We don't belong to the night, nor to darkness.

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

We belong to Christ because Christ conquered death (sin and its laws), or not? Christ conquered death for us, or not? Did Christ complete the law? The sheer fact these brothers and sisters were anointed proved Christ conquered death of the law once for all times. Now it was time for them sober up to righteousness, not the righteousness of the old law condemning sin, no! But to Christ righteousness, which makes them righteous and alive to the Spirit.

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

2 Corinthians 1:17 When I therefore was thus determined, did I show fickleness? Or the things that I purpose, do I purpose according to the flesh, that with me there should be the "Yes, yes" and the "No, no?"

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.

Romans 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

1 Corinthians 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

Galatians 2:21 I don't make void the grace of God. For if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing!"

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could make alive, most certainly righteousness would have been of the law.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

These brothers and sisters must compare spiritual things with spiritual things by the law of love, the new covenant, which they were made into by Christ righteousness (spirit being). They must stop judging death to death against each other by the law of the dead, for sinners, in Christ. They must stop judging the flesh, God's judgment of dead was finish, completed, put away, in Christ two thousand's years ago. Conversely, those fleshly judgments isthe powerful drug found in all false religion on earth today who are still enslaving their members captive to sins law whic gives power to false religion over the nations, but it is, or should be what God's anointed are freed on?

2 Timothy 4:5 But you be sober in all things, suffer hardship, do the work of an evangelist, and fulfill your ministry.

1 Peter 1:13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action,{literally, "gird up the waist of your mind"} be sober and set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ-

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.
Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

James 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge. 4:12 Only one is the lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge another?

The yeast of corruption causing the growth of false religion is by applying the laws of death to God's anointed, by they themselve teaching from the laws of death, enslaving others into works of law, which is completed, fulfilled, in Christ two thousand's year ago. The food for God's anointed is not food from below in death and corruption from laws for the dead, alienated from the Spirit. The food from above is life, free of corruption, which the world does not know or can know, just as false religion will never know the truth of the Spirit!

1 John 4:5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak of the world, and the world hears them.

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

John 4:10 Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, 'Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh."

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

The Law Fruit of Death

.****Rom.7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

The question, what fruit are picked off the law? The next question is, what fruit are picked off Christ? Did the law have sinful passions? Does Christ resurrected into incorruptibility have sinful passion? Now the reality sinks in, law has no emotions, or lust, so who's fruit are death? Christ has no flesh, that is, sins, so who's fruits of death are we talking about?

Romans 7:12 Therefore the law indeed is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good.

James1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one. 1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.

It is us who bring forth fruit of death, or fruit of life, but how? Why the law? Mankind was brought into a court room with a prosecuting attorney by God giving the law to his people Israel. Law must be satisfied, the justice of the law must be upheld or it is rebellion against the Government's Sovereignty. God formed a people by his righteous law into a mighty nation, the law is righteous, but the people were not, why? It is because sinner are not righteous; righteous means having no sin, which is God's legal standard of righteousness, but not mankind's.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

For sinner to be righteous God must act, he must pay for our sins, atoning for them, or his righteous standard prosecuted us by his law convicting us as a law breakers the sentence for sin is death. Israel experience God's love (Mercy by atonement), but also his severity by the law wrath without atonment. (some sins could not be atone for under the law)

Romans 2:13 For it isn't the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Colossians 2:23 Which things indeed appear like wisdom in self-imposed worship, and humility, and severity to the body; but aren't of any value against the indulgence of the flesh.

Deuteronomy 30:15 Behold, I have set before you this day life and good, and death and evil;

Levitius 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that makes atonement by reason of the life.

The problem existed for Israel that the law could not give them life, it could only bring forth fruit of death. The law written on stone could not bring forth what was needed a life giving spirit. Israel like so many today have made the law an idol! They've worshiped the power of the condemnation of the law as a god. Israel to this day lives in a state of death by the laws condemnation of sin bring forth the fruit of death. The fruit picked from the law which judge mankind a sinner (in death) proving they needed mercy by blood atonment a gift of God's great mercy.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near.

Hebrews 9:22 According to the law, nearly everything is cleansed with blood, and apart from shedding of blood there is no remission.

Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

Something that should be self-evident by the fact all are dying on earth from sin. The wages sin pays started in the Garden of Eden, with Adam and Eves sinning against God's righteous standard losing their own righteousness by sin (losing the life of the Spirit its power over and controling their lives). The law only personified sin in us, proving we need God's mercy which is given freely by gift of atonement. Atonement was painful for the victim who had not sinned. In Israel case it was an animal not created by God to keep his righteous law, thus, if there is no law one cannot break it, making the victim innocent of sin, the animal not created to be under laws of sin.

Romans 4:15 For the law works wrath, for where there is no law, neither is there disobedience.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

However, there was not eternal life in the animal so it could not redeem mankind, giving them the power of its life working in them sanctifying them once of all time from sin eternally. Subsequently, this was the purpose of the law preparing the nation of Israel for God's savior through the greater Moses by the pass-over lamb of God having the eternal life of God in him.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

John 1:29 The next day, he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

Acts 8:32 Now the passage of the Scripture which he was reading was this, "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter. As a lamb before his shearer is silent, so he doesn't open his mouth.

1 Peter 1:19 but with precious blood, as of a faultless and pure lamb, the blood of Christ;

Revelation 5:12 saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb who has been killed to receive the power, wealth, wisdom, strength, honor, glory, and blessing!"

Christ Jesus had the power of eternal life indwelling him, his Father YHWH life when he came to earth. Christ was righteous, he had not sinned, meaning his life was endless, like Adam's should have been. When Christ was sacrificed for Israel and they put faith in his resurrection into his sinless blood God's wrath of the law was removed off them by atoning for their sins – given them by God's unmerited kindness allowing them to be indwelt with the life of Christ sanctifying them not as a nation but individually in true righteousness, by Christ powerful living life. The fruit for eternal life and immortality was found in Christ our life; fruit of life like the Father's. Christ is life, which is our life, he cannot bring forth the fruit of death. Let us define death here with specificity? We are talking about sin, bring forth the fruit of sin - death. Christ cannot sin he is incorruptible state, meaning he can never sin, thus, his fruit is life.

Colossians 3:4 When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

2 Timothy 1:10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who abolished death, and brought life and immortality to light through the Good News.

2 Peter 1:3 seeing that his divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and virtue;

Those inheriting the Kingdom of Christ do so by the power of his living life working in them. They alone have the fruit of Christ life working in them, he is their vine, and he produces fruit of life by the power of his life working in his vine. The law vine had no life in it, but gave a temporary atonement without the power of life working in its members (Israel). It power was death, death worked in us by the law, it could not perfect us into life, which takes the power of Christ life, that is, his Kingdom, the power behind his Kingdom, the Spirit.

Luke 13:7 He said to the vine dresser, 'Behold, these three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree, and found none. Cut it down. Why does it waste the soil?'

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.

John 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me.

John 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

1Cor. 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

Those weak in conscience, still weak under the fleshly mind, that is, the judgments of the fleshly mind by the law, wanted physical sight, the fearful power of the law brought upon the body members of Christ. This is why Paul was so passionate about freeing us from the law power so we would not be enslaved to death once again, dying twice as it were.

Jude 1:12 These are hidden rocky reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you, shepherds who without fear feed themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn leaves without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

1 Corinthians 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self.

Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"} 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

The power of Christ body members is from the Spirit, and not the law! It is the law of the Spirit that brings us into life, not the law of flesh, which is judgments by the law of the sinful flesh. Our blessings (fruit of the Spirit) come from God (Spirit) when he freed us from our deserved judgments by his law. He freed us, completely by killing the law, how? By accounting us dead, paying the price for our sins, in Christ life (dead in the flesh). We now stand as spirit person before God with no flesh being accounted against us in the sins of the flesh (death, no law, no sin). This is why we must walk by faith, a gift of God's Spirit so we may commune with Spirit, and truth (life as Adam had before sinning). The power of all flesh has been stripped by Christ from us. That would include all authority of flesh on earth under darkness of wicked spirit forces. We are not battling flesh and blood, we are spirit person battling wicked spirit force.

Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the children of disobedience;

Ephesians 3:16 that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, that you may be strengthened with power through his Spirit in the inward man;

Ephesians 3:20 Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us.

Eph.2:13 You were dead through your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh. He made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 2:14 wiping out the handwriting in ordinances which was against us; and he has taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross; 2:15 having stripped the principalities and the powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in eating, or in drinking, or with respect to a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day, 2:17 which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ's.

Christ conquered Satan world (death) and his power by his life. When the body of Christ goes back under the power of the flesh, and it's laws condemning and judging them as sinners they lose the power of Christ indestructible life in them. False religion the great mystery has conquered this world by the power of the flesh, by its instituting laws of the flesh upon its members. This seemingly cleanness has deceived many honest hearted people into enslavement of death's laws. The power of the law in disciplining and changing lives on earth is powerful and works for a better more righteous people, but its not God's righteousness found only in Christ.

1 Corinthians 6:16 Or don't you know that he who is joined to a prostitute is one body? For, "The two," says he, "will become one flesh."{Genesis 2:24}

Romans 13:14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, for its lusts.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:9 knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!

Romans 6:11 Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The flesh cannot be made righteous, it is the spirit God deals with, the flesh has to be put to death, not made righteous as false religion practices. No human being can put away the filth of their flesh, and certainly not by laws punishing the flesh. (they must be made new in Christ life) This deception is the great mystery that has enslaved the whole world. Babylon the Great cannot bring forth fruits of life, without flesh, that is, putting it to death by laws of the flesh created for the wicked, and not the righteous. Laws do not put the flesh to death they only jail the works of the flesh, laws enforced can takes away the outward of appearances of unrighteousness, but they do not kill the flesh! Only Christ can do that and make us new, into a new creation.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Titus 3:9 but shun foolish questionings, genealogies, strife, and disputes about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

1 Corinthians 6:11 Such were some of you, but you were washed. But you were sanctified. But you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God.

Serve in The Oldness of The Letter

****Rom.7:6 But now we have been discharged from the law, having died to that in which we were held; so that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter.

Many in false religion today as back at Paul's day did not believe or refused to believe God had discharged them from the law! However, as Paul had already pointed out above in this letter to the Roman's that a woman could not have two headships without being an adulterous, something the entire law itself condemned as immoral conduct.

Ephesians 5:31 "For this cause a man will leave his father and mother, and will be joined to his wife. The two will become one flesh."{Genesis 2:24}

1 Corinthians 6:16 Or don't you know that he who is joined to a prostitute is one body? For, "The two," says he, "will become one flesh."{Genesis 2:24}

Furthermore, it was the death of her husband, or herself that freed her from the laws authority of her husband. If it were her husband who died she was free to remarry. She must belong to only one man according the law, if she belong to two men, two laws, she was unfaithful to both! Emotions could not come into play here, although, were a flood of emotions in a adulterous relationship, the emotions do not justify adultery allowing the person to break the law, by having to headships.

1 Timothy 3:11 Their wives in the same way must be reverent, not slanderers, temperate, faithful in all things.

1 Corinthians 4:2 Here, moreover, it is required of stewards, that they be found faithful.
Luke 16:10 He who is faithful in a very little is faithful also in much. He who is dishonest in a very little is also dishonest in much.

Subsequently, how then could one become a Christian's without breaking the law? Moreover, how could a devout Jew become a Christian's without becoming an adultery to the law he loved? In fact, Christ was condemned and killed by those whom thought he was violating the law. The apostle Paul now had to deal with the flesh to set matters straight, to help the brothers and sisters in Christ to understand the power of Christ in them for life, for without faith, which meant once again looking to the law, (which is denying the faith given them by Holy Spirit in Christ) they could not know God, or Christ, let alone help other come to the Christ. In the law meant in the flesh, in Christ meant in the Spirit by the faith of the Spirit.

Rom. 12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;

Conversely, this is where the flesh wars with the Spirit taking great offense at it being killed, as no good. Simply put, some one has to die for this marriage arrangement to be legal before God. Christ died in his flesh for us, then he was made alive in the Spirit. But while on earth he was made into the likeness of sin, for us, not that he had sinned, but was made to carry our sins, feeling and struggling with the effects of sin so he could become a compassionate high priest over his brothers in their flesh still on earth. Thus, if a person takes a branch off a tree and graft it into another tree, all the tree life belongs to the new limb graft into the tree there is no distinction between the limb's life and the trees. It become part of the new tree, and the life of the tree sustain the limbs life, and produce fruit and leafs on the branch. The branch cannot be independent of a life source or it will die.

Rom.8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them, and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree;

Romans 11:24 For if you were cut out of that which is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more will these, which are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

Israel life source was the law, from the law headship it produced fruit for God. Just as Eve was created from Adam, and for Adam, once God married them, her life produce fruit for God. She was not an independent fruit bearer. Her fruit of life, her children and works were for her head Adam. If Eve separated from him as she did coming under the Devils headship, her future children produced were no longer God's children (having his likeness). It was only in a legal marriage, that is, covenant (marriage( that produce the children of God, with no sin.

Romans 7:9 I was alive apart from the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Galatians 2:18 For if I build up again those things which I destroyed, I prove myself a law-breaker.

Galatians 3:12 The law is not of faith, but, "The man who does them will live by them."{Leviticus 18:5}

The law covenant while enforced by God through blood sacrifice of animal's produced God's children, Israel. However, the law could be fulfilled and replaced with a better more lasting covenant, which was the Christ. In other words, God purpose for Israel covenant to be satisfied, completed as some point in its future, paid off. What paid off the old covenant? It was a perfect everlasting life which means without sin. Adam was created without sin, his covenant, i.e., with Eve was righteous, that is, sinless so their children would inherit everlasting life from Adam loins, his eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

1 Timothy 2:14 Adam wasn't deceived, but the woman, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience;

Animals blood could not satisfy the demand's of what Adam lost for the human race, its power was not the power of an endless life, but instead its power came from laws written on stone and later parchments. The power of Adam's endless life was God's Holy Spirit, (before sinning) Adam commune with life, that is, God. Animal blood could not produce life, letting mankind commune with the source of life, God. In other words, God's law must be satisfied by what was equal, perfect life for perfect life. We must be grafted into a perfect life, but first we must die, we must be broken off from the old life, the old tree, that is, the power of Satan world that which gives it breathe and life? Laws created to sustain (flesh), and operated all societies in an orderly manner so business can be conducted, and people can live and function in a measure of peace and prosperity.

2 Samuel 22:26 With the merciful you will show yourself merciful. With the perfect man you will show yourself perfect.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near.

Matthew 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

The laws sustain Israel, but it could not produce one perfect man without sin to pay the price for sin. God must produce the victim for our sins, he came not from this earth, but from above from a sinless God. Spilling his blood, being put to death in the flesh, atoned for Israel sins and those of the world putting faith in Christ as well. But it is the endless life in the new covenant that sustains life in God's true vine or tree, and puts his body members, that is, who are created from Christ own life, his own rib like Eve from Adam that will produce endless life from their children from a sinless righteous marriage arrangement.

Romans 5:18 So then as through one trespass, all men were condemned; even so through one act of righteousness, all men were justified to life.

Romans 5:21 that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:22 But now, being made free from sin, and having become servants of God, you have your fruit of sanctification, and the result of eternal life.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him who raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

It is Christ from his marriage arrangement with his bride, his body members that will once again fill the whole earth with righteous flesh, making it new. God was married to fleshly Israel through his covenant of the law, but it could not produce the endless life found in the new covenant having Christ eternal life. The law had no Spirit in it, it was a judgment of our sins, into death, the law having no power to raise us up into a sinless endless life (Spirit). The law proved we deserved death, and not life, so God gave Israel a temporary stay of execution in the flesh, by atoning, removing through payment of sin with innocent life of animal victim.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

1 Timothy 1:16 However, for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first, Jesus Christ might display all his patience, for an example of those who were going to believe in him for eternal life.


Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

To be freed of sin, once for all times, not temporarily, one must die to sin in their flesh, but at the sametime they must also be made alive in spirit, not by laws, because one cannot be made alive in the Spirit by any law, it requires an endless life to make one alive in the Spirit, without laws of the flesh. Laws rather they be God's righteous laws given to Israel or man's unrighteous laws of the nations created to condemn sinners, convict them as unrighteous law breakers deserving of punishment.

Man cannot be an angel, that is, having intercourse with an angel without creating an unholy alliance, The flesh must die and be resurrected into spirit to associate with God's angels. God does no accept a mixture of sinful flesh with spirit that thinking is from the Devil.

Gen.6:1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 6:2 that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose. 6:3 Yahweh said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years." 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came in to men's daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 6:5 Yahweh saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6:6 Yahweh was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart.

Thus, ones flesh must be judged dead and they be made a live in the spirit to stop flesh laws from judging them as in the flesh. They must come out from under the power of fleshly laws, into a new headship of Christ through death, there is no other way. Once dead to the judgments of the flesh, sin stop, were there is no law neither is their transgression of law; rather the be be from God's law or any other law. One must die in the flesh on earth to come under a new headship in the law for the spirit persons. Which laws do not judge a righteous person, that is, a sinless person. Laws of the Spirit only give life and produce fruits of God, there is no death in the law of the Spirit. Death enter into this world from sin in the flesh, sin does not enter into the life of Christ, or God, thus, both now are the source of life.

1 Peter 1:4 to an incorruptible and undefiled inheritance that doesn't fade away, reserved in Heaven for you,

1 Peter 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

2 Peter 1:4 by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

2 Peter 2:19 promising them liberty, while they themselves are bondservants of corruption; for a man is brought into bondage by whoever overcomes him.


God did not given Adam laws imputing evil (corruption) to him, sayings: “You are an evil person I know you will sin, so here are a bunch of laws to prevent you from sinning in your unrighteous flesh”. God put Adam under the laws of the Spirit love, Adam did not need to be judged and made alive from an evil past, There was no death ruling in Adam's body, he had only life, and he could produce only life from the life indwelling him from his Father YHWH.

1Tim.1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

We however, must die in our flesh to stop sin and commune with life which life of all creation is now entrusted to Christ our headship. We must have all the life in the tree to be in life. That is we are in the tree its life and death, Christ death (God's tree in paradise), and we are raised in his life, by the Spirit that raised him. What is left of our flesh is in the likeness of sin, but we don't, or can't sin because we are not judged in our old flesh any longer, once for all times. The flesh is dead buried in Christ death put away and lost to mankind 2000 years ago. We are made alive by the incorruptible Spirit now indwelling Christ in his spirit body.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him who raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

Romans 10:7 or, 'Who will descend into the abyss?'{Deuteronomy 30:13} (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead.)"

Romans 10:9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Hence, being in the law no matter how much we try to keep it, making our life righteous we can not, or did it ever produce one sinless man that gave endless life to others. The problem Paul was dealing with in trying to help these brothers and sisters raised in Spirit by Christ life, to help them understand why they were left in the flesh, and what laws they were actually under. Many wanted to prove they were righteous in the flesh before God by works of law in their sinful flesh.

Galatians 4:23 However, the son by the handmaid was born according to the flesh, but the son by the free woman was born through promise.

Galatians 4:29 But as then, he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now.

Galatians 5:13 For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don't use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another.

Galatians 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won't fulfill the lust of the flesh.

Paul then must offend the fleshly mind in proving their was not one good thing that dwelt in any person flesh, but death. Nothing of the old self, that is, from the flesh was going to help them, or be renewed by application of laws crated to convict flesh of sin, rather that be man's laws or God's. If they started dealing with what was dead, buried in the Christ they would be corrupted by the death from a dead corpus. They must learn the real condition of all flesh before God's righteousness as of no value at all in having a relationship with a living God who is incorruptible from sins of the flesh. They must feed on God's mind as Adam had feed on God's mind to sustain eternal life. They had been given a new mind by being put into Christ. It was Christ mind as their proper headship teach them God's mind, as a mediator to God. Just as the old law was mediated by Moses, and the priest were in charge of teaching it to that body of law.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

2 Corinthians 3:3 being revealed that you are a letter of Christ, served by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tablets of stone, but in tablets that are hearts of flesh.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Jude 1:20 But you, beloved, keep building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit.

1 John 2:20 You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.{Or, "know what is true." Or, "know all things."}

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

It was Christ created by God, and each anointed body member being created for Christ wife, in Spirit that will produce God's works in paradise just as Adam lost. They must think in Christ mind, being at one in Spirit with him, putting away all flesh, to please God.

2 Corinthians 2:16 to the one a stench from death to death; to the other a sweet aroma from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things?

1 Corinthians 12:11 But the one and the same Spirit works all of these, distributing to each one separately as he desires.

1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and has many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God.

Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, and Christ also is the head of the assembly, being himself the savior of the body.

August 25, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterJWsStraightTalk

Is The Law Sin?

Rom. 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? May it never be! However, I wouldn't have known sin, except through the law. For I wouldn't have known coveting, unless the law had said, "You shall not covet."{Exodus 20:17; Deuteronomy 5:21}

Every good family has the same pattern in common, it is, rules, and laws that build a solid foundation for the children personalities to grow into well adjusted adults.

Where no standards exist accept the moods of the parents children will be plagued by all manner of problems in their adult life.

2 Timothy 1:13 Hold the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Proverbs 25:12 As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover to an obedient ear.

Romans 6:17 But thanks be to God, that, whereas you were bondservants of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching whereunto you were delivered.

Law define for us sins that will cause us problems in life, in a family setting if understood or not, later in life the child will come to understand how the parents simple but firm rules made them into the person they are today. The apostle Paul here makes this simple point, it is a fact of life. If we are raise a law breaker, trouble will follow us all the days of our life.

Proverbs 17:13 Whoever rewards evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house.

But why did Paul need to make this point? Why speak of what is common in all human societies rather a Jew or not, law? In our understanding the book of Roman's and particularly in Roman's chapter seven we must never forget the fundamental building blocks of why Paul wrote the letter: Flesh Vs Spirit! Although, we may understand how rules and laws are essential for life on this earth, the brothers and sisters Paul was speaking to here did not understand what it meant to walk in Spirit.

Romans 12:21 Don't be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Paul defined in no uncertain terms the flesh, the power of the flesh where it comes from, and the condition of the flesh. If a person cannot comes to grips with these basic teaching, they will stay in the primary doctrine of Christ in a state of constant repentance in their flesh.

Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

In other words, the very thing that makes life better on earth for us, so we are not in a state of societal lawlessness did not help the Spirit at all! How could Paul possibly help those loving the law of the Jew's, a very good and powerful law. Yes, a law superior to any nation before or after them? How could something so good for society be bad for those in the Spirit? It simply did not make any sense, how could good now be bad?

Romans 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Romans 10:5 For Moses writes about the righteousness of the law, "The one who does them will live by them."{Leviticus 18:5}

Subsequently, those loving the flesh, that is, walking by sight, not faith cannot grasp how the law (flesh) is against the Spirit. It much like those breaking speed laws, where they push and push the person in front of them keeping the law; getting violently anger with them, until they are stopped by the law. Suddenly, they become a nice law abiding citizen in front of the officers pretending its not a habit of their driving over the speed limit. They believe in the law, they vote people in who uphold the law, so what just happen?

Matt.7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? 7:4 Or how will you tell your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye? 7:5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.

The law told the truth it proved the person a law breaker, and if the person continues to justify their love of the law, while breaking it, they will be found a hypocrite, and if they think their reason for breaking the law is better than others who break the law they have become evil, and will progress into greater evil. A honest person shuts his/her mouth, knowing they are deserving of a whole lot more for breaking the law every day and night going and coming from work!

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Luke.18:10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray; one was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector. 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this: 'God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
18:12 I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all that I get.'
18:13 But the tax collector, standing far away, wouldn't even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."

The power of the law is sin! If a person has no sin, the law has no power over them. If they obey the rule of law, the law cannot convict a person of speeding, the law frees them of wrong doing. God's law was created not for the righteous (without sin), but for the sinner (The unrighteous), if a person be free of sin the law cannot convict the person of being wicked. However, those thinking they don't break the laws by obeying some rule of a religion are liars! Conversely, those thinking they are above the law because of being specially chosen of God are very evil, this is the personality that killed the one non-sinner Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Romans 2:23 You who glory in the law, through your disobedience of the law do you dishonor God?

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

James 2:9 But if you show partiality, you commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors.

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law, and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

So the apostle Paul was up against the power of the flesh, the law, but most missed this point, which is, the law did not justify them as non-sinners it condemned them as wicked not keeping the law. Were they going to live in a pretense of being law keepers or face the truth of all fallen flesh? Were they going to judge, that is, put the law upon their brothers and sisters so they could point out and punish the wickedness in their eye, or judge by the law of free people where they looked into Christ knowing they deserve punishment for their own law breaking, and accept the unmerited kindness of God?

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Romans 7:12 Therefore the law indeed is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good.

2Tim.3:13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

If they saw their flesh as good, better, than a sinner, they would promote the righteousness of the law. A righteousness that only a person without sin could keep, everyone else was breaking the law. However, those in Christ through God's undeserved kindness had their flesh removed (killing the power of judgment in the sinful flesh), thus, the power of the law was dead in them. Where there is no law, neither is their sin. If they wanted to uses the law “lawfully” than they must teach the truth of the law, its power to make us sinners, to convict us of death, not life (but as unrighteous). The wages of sin is death that was the power of the law. Leaving us in death without the power of Spirit to resurrected them into freedom of judgment in Christ!

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death?
7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

Romans 4:24 but for our sake also, to whom it will be accounted, who believe in him who raised Jesus, our Lord, from the dead,

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:9 knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!

Romans 6:11 Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:13 Neither present your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God, as alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.

1Tim.1:6 from which things some, having missed the mark, have turned aside to vain talking; 1:7 desiring to be teachers of the law, though they understand neither what they say, nor about what they strongly affirm. 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man uses it lawfully, 1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

God killed the law, by killing our flesh in Christ, raising us in Spirit to be part of Christ life, a righteous man died for many. The judgment of our flesh is dead, God is not two face, like all flesh is two face. God does not lie or speak two standards of judgments, as we all do, one for family, one for friends, one for our religion, one for those we don't like. In other words, because our flesh still sins, God does not reverse his promise in Christ and removed the law of Christ over us once again returning to the law for sinful flesh.

Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"} 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

Such thinking is unrighteous, and is of the evil found in all flesh, thus found in all religion, in all government, and commerce, in all of Satan world under darkness. God is light, he has no darkness in him of evil, and than good and some teach. Every perfect gift is from above, double standards are from below from unrighteous flesh.

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures. 1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger;

Matt.7:8 For everyone who asks receives. He who seeks finds. To him who knocks it will be opened. 7:9 Or who is there among you, who, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? 7:10 Or if he asks for a fish, who will give him a serpent? 7:11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

1 John 4:19 We love Him, because he first loved us.

Reviving Sin With Best Intentions

****Rom.7:8 But sin, finding occasion through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of coveting. For apart from the law, sin is dead.

Here the apostle Paul states the fatal flaw most Christian's never really understand, and what is that? Christian's love commandments they see them as making them a good person, in helping others to become a good Christian. It is the pillar the whole Christian's community stands on, as being morally better than all else in society.

Matthew 5:20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.

Romans 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Yet, that is not what Paul stated here at all! The Holy Spirit leading Paul stated that if there is no law than there is no sin, what? Yes, the power of the law according to God is “sin”, not the putting away of sin by us applying the commandments. Lets uses this example, all children judge their parents once they grow up. They seem to be devastate by those flaws that upsets them so much that they spend their entire life not doing or being like their parents in that one area, and/or those areas.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ


Yet, if they were honest most of us can say: “my parent didn't teach me to steal, treat people with disrespect, lie, cheat on my mate, be a drunk or drug addict. Surprisingly, very few parents by comparison teach their children to do these things. So why doesn't the parent get any credit for those good things they worked so hard to teach us? Well, honestly, the person is prejudices because of the flaws it blinds them to real love for their parents.

1Cor.13:5 (love) doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil;

So now Christian's have a really big problem the commandments point out how much we sin, that is, fall short of God's glory, which glory appeared in Christ on earth, without sin! You see, the law did not create love for one another, the flaws pointed out by commandments blinded a person to the good the person also does. If our standards of love, is feeling we are better because we don't do what someone else does, its not love at all!

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.
7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? 7:4 Or how will you tell your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye? 7:5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.


If the standard is by God: “You obey the commandments without sinning or I won't love you.” Then we are hopeless, without someone looking for the good in us. Religious love is not God's love, or Christ love or he would not have come to this earth by God's sending him to delivery us from our deserved judgments against his commandments.

1 John 4:19 We love Him, because he first loved us.

John 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another, even as I have loved you.

This is the folly and the great mystery plaguing, stabbing Christian's all over with many thorns in trying to pick figs off a thorn bush, and than blaming their parents once they have enough knowledge of what is right and wrong by commandments they themselves cannot keep.

Matt.18:21 Then Peter came and said to him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Until seven times?"
18:22 Jesus said to him, "I don't tell you until seven times, but, until seventy times seven. 18:23 Therefore the Kingdom of Heaven is like a certain king, who wanted to reconcile accounts with his servants. 18:24 When he had begun to reconcile, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents.{Ten thousand talents represents an extremely large sum of money, equivalent to about 60,000,000 denarii, where one denarius was typical of one day's wages for agricultural labor.} 18:25 But because he couldn't pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, with his wife, his children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 18:26 The servant therefore fell down and kneeled before him, saying, 'Lord, have patience with me, and I will repay you all!' 18:27 The lord of that servant, being moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
18:28 "But that servant went out, and found one of his fellow servants, who owed him one hundred denarii,{100 denarii was about one sixtieth of a talent.} and he grabbed him, and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' 18:29 "So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will repay you!' 18:30 He would not, but went and cast him into prison, until he should pay back that which was due.
18:31 So when his fellow servants saw what was done, they were exceedingly sorry, and came and told to their lord all that was done.
18:32 Then his lord called him in, and said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt, because you begged me.
18:33 Shouldn't you also have had mercy on your fellow servant, even as I had mercy on you?' 18:34 His lord was angry, and delivered him to the tormentors, until he should pay all that was due to him.
18:35 So my heavenly Father will also do to you, if you don't each forgive your brother from your hearts for his misdeeds."

You see, God does not created Christian's victims so they can spend their lives blaming what someone has done to them as a child, and/or as an adult. God freely forgives us what we cannot forgive others, “freely” is the big difference between God and man, which should tell us why we really can't judge matter like a god without being tainted by sin, and/or we should understand that was never our job. Adam was no set upon this earth as its judge and law giver. He was not put on this earth and given a bunch of laws, so how could he image that he should do differently than what had been done to him?

Matt. 7:12 Therefore whatever you desire for men to do to you, you shall also do to them; for this is the law and the prophets.

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. 13:9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet,"{TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"}{Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21} and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}
13:10 Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

Why would Christian's treat others differently than how God has treated them? How did he treat us? He removed our judgment, putting it squarely upon his Son Christ Jesus, he forgive us freely, the commandments could not do that? Those that read love is obeying the commandment(s) fail to realize the commandant is but one that God gave us freely, his love. Without love we can't obey God, or his commandments. We only have half of the work team we may have the cart, but not the horse.

1 John 4:8 He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.

1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God loved us in this way, we also ought to love one another.

1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God remains in us, and his love has been perfected in us.

1 John 4:16 We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.

Love fulfills all the commandments, in other words, it not a legal term, or obligation, love, love has no laws of commandments against it, if it did we could never be loved by God, now could we? God chose to do us good, when we did him evil. God said, love cannot fail, is he lying? So if you first judge by commandments than you dole out your love, we don't love like our heavenly Father love us first. We instead practice what these brothers and sisters were practicing bring back the laws designed and created for one purpose to judge, point out, magnify sin in us. Yes, now listen carefully, the “power” of the law is sin! Where does the power of the law come from allowing it to control our lives condemning us to death? It comes from our not being able to stop sinning. If we can't stop sinning according to God's righteous law, than what is left? Nothing but death, we have no hope, not unless you have been trick into false religion that tells you the big lie that you can be righteous by obeying the commandments for magnifying sin?

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Ephesians 3:7 of which I was made a servant, according to the gift of that grace of God which was given me according to the working of his power.

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

So we are forced as Christian's to believe God's love covers a multitude of sins that God's love us despite our failing that he will not lie that the life of Christ is enough. freely given us, or we can turn back to the weak beggarly things of our flesh and its judgments, by the commandments that gain power by our sins over us!

Romans 6:19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh, for as you presented your members as servants to uncleanness and to wickedness upon wickedness, even so now present your members as servants to righteousness for sanctification.

Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good. 7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

Brothers,

Context is a must to understand this subject of God's Grace, here is further contexts on this subject:

If we say we have no sin, we lie and the truth is not in us, all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory, not one person can say: " my righteousness makes me sinless".

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

All sin is lawlessness, not some, not a little, or sins we are working on, nor sins we think aren't as bad as the other guys. It not some light and a little darkness, it not yes, may be, not so bad, and I really hate that sin. No! It either yes or no, and what is in between those two words are from the wicked one.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

So the question is how does God remove sin from us, when it is impossible by any human efforts to remove sin? That is the simple and plain context of Roman Chapter Seven.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; and so death passed to all men, because all sinned.

God is good, God is love, does that mean he is weak on sin? No! Is that what Paul was teaching when the Christ entire life and purpose is to remove sin from the human race?

Romans 5:21 that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Grace, that is, undeserved kindness, is God's provision (in Christ) to remove our sins, (nothing else removes our sins) it is not and excuse to sin. But neither is it an excuse, or justification to teach mankind can remove sin by works of law (which is a greater sin that may cause a person to sin against what the Holy Spirit is doing in Christ). First, if we could obey the commandments and not sin, Christ would not have had to die for us, now that is either a true statement or a false one?

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Galatians 2:16 yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law, because no flesh will be justified by the works of the law.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Now if it is by grace than it can't be by our works. Once a brother or sister is given God's grace in Christ their lives no longer has anything to do with their old life, which is dead, buried and gone. They are a new creation by the life of Christ. There never was, nor is there anything in their flesh that please God, not even crucifying themselves by obedience to God's commandments, which are also the commandments Christ obey for us. That is the context of Roman Seven, nothing, not one thing of the old self has anything good enough for what? To obey God's commandments or Christ died in vain.

Rom. 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good. 7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.

1 Corinthians 1:29 that no flesh should boast before God.

Simply enough, the redemption of mankind must comes from a sinless life, because not one person could redeem the human race, We may build massive government (religions) enforcing all the commandments, even the ones Christ gave us to love one another, and still it would not redeem mankind or us. But if we are in Christ the vine, and we can only get there by God's love than obviously we must walk in that same love, which is the commandment. However, outside of being in Christ life as all false religion is the billions of commandment(s) and principles of those commandments that make people feel really good about their own righteousness by looking down at others unrighteousness will never make one sinless before God, i.e. righteous.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

James 1:20 for the anger of man doesn't produce the righteousness of God.

Now if Grace is a gift, unearned, than how do we boast in keeping the law of love? Where is the boasting if we are told unequivocally that in our flesh we cannot please God, or stop sinning? There is no boasting but in Christ his righteousness which flows through the vine of his life. Does anyone imagine that Christ life, which, has come to take our sins away is teaching its OK to sin, lawlessness?

Hebrews 11:6 Without faith it is impossible to be well pleasing to him, for he who comes to God must believe that he exists, and that he is a rewarder of those who seek him.

Mark 10:27 Jesus, looking at them, said, "With men it is impossible, but not with God, for all things are possible with God."

What Paul taught and always seems to being missed is that righteousness does not come from us obeying the commandments, righteousness comes from our being in the true vine, Christ life, which cleanses us from all sin because in Christ we are in God's love. And we got there by faith in Christ, not by working hard in obeying the commandments trying to put away the filth of our flesh. Teaching Christ is not teaching sin, which all sin is lawlessness. The only way we are not lawless is teaching the law of Christ, love, which removes our sins, not teaching we can be made righteous by works we ourselves do.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

If one boast in any other righteousness than removal of sin by Christ so we can stay in God's love, in removing our deserved judgments, we are not in grace but works of self-righteousness. It was only when the brothers and sisters in the book of Roman went into preaching righteousness by obedience to the Jewish rule of law that they promoted death, they did not earn greater life than God giving them Christ life.

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

Romans 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not toward God. (Abraham was not under the Law of Moses so we can make ourselves self-righteous by any and all laws or comamandments)

Romans 11:18 don't boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you.

Daniel

Commandments Proved to be Death?

****Rom.7:9 I was alive apart from the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 7:10 The commandment, which was for life, this I found to be for death;
7:11 for sin, finding occasion through the commandment, deceived me, and through it killed me.

How indeed could the apostle Paul born and raised in the Jewish faith had been alive apart from the law once? The law had been enforced upon Israel for thousand's of year before Paul was even born? Here if we stop, and think, we have stumbled upon a profound mystery, what is that mystery?

2Cor.4:3 Even if our Good News is veiled, it is veiled in those who perish; 4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

The mystery is when Paul, then Saul started using the commandments of God to prove himself righteous, he had become a professional religious lawyer, a career teacher of what? The law and its commandments. Before that happen he may have loved God from his heart instead of proving by works of law that he was good enough to serve God!

Luke 18:19 Jesus asked him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good, except one--God.

The law and its commandments was his undoing as it has been for every Christian's since undoing. Once we measure back to God our goodness in perceived obedience (that is our judging we are obedient by our works) we get the truth back of the law and its commandments, sin! No, not life as one imagines they can earn on earth by obedience to the commandments. Sin is the catch twenty two the more dig to obey the deeper the sin, the deeper the hole we dig. The law become measure line upon measuring line until the flesh breaks under the weight of true righteousness.

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.
7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Isaiah 28:10 For it is precept on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, there a little.

Isaiah 28:13 Therefore the word of Yahweh will be to them precept on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, there a little; that they may go, fall backward, be broken, be snared, and be taken.

James 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge.

Who can stand is the question? How does sinner convince themselves they can obey their way out of sin? The principal is fundamentally flawed, one cannot take a weed and make it into wheat by obedience to the laws for wheat, it is a trick, a self-deception blinded by zeal for God's law. One cannot feed their fish cat food and think their fish will become a cat!

Ecclesiastes 1:15 That which is crooked can't be made straight; and that which is lacking can't be counted.

Isaiah 42:16 I will bring the blind by a way that they don't know. I will lead them in paths that they don't know. I will make darkness light before them, and crooked places straight. I will do these things, and I will not forsake them.

Matthew 8:3 Jesus stretched out his hand, and touched him, saying, "I want to. Be made clean." Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.

Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one.

One can only humble themselves before the mighty hand of God, declaring he alone is good, and will make the way out for us because he is good. What was the law, without God's mercy, what was God's mercy? It was the seat of atonement where a life paid for our sins so we could be obedient by having our deserved judgment daily wiped away cast into the very sea once for all times as long as we are in the flesh on earth. Have we forgotten the primary doctrines of the Christ? Have we made the commandments an idol, that is, lets be clear here, commandments from God's word, and/or any other group we our associated with? Do we think we are better more deserving of life because of something we have done for God?

Proverbs 16:2 All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but Yahweh weighs the motives.

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, "I have made my heart pure. I am clean and without sin?"

Psalms 10:17 Yahweh, you have heard the desire of the humble. You will prepare their heart. You will cause your ear to hear.

James 4:6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."{Proverbs 3:34}

James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you.

1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, you younger ones, be subject to the elder. Yes, all of you gird yourselves with humility, to subject yourselves to one another; for "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."{Proverbs 3:34}

Lets not separate the truth from the reality, who of us would stand before God and declare our own goodness, righteousness? None, why would we think we can separated God from his commandments, or the law? Why than boast in them as making us better, when none of us can stand in our own works?

Hebrews 11:6 Without faith it is impossible to be well pleasing to him, for he who comes to God must believe that he exists, and that he is a rewarder of those who seek him.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

How was Paul deceived by the perfect law God gave Israel, is there deception with God? No! That is impossible, so something deceived Paul where he miss-read the message of the law? Paul had to learn the truth about sin in his fallen flesh, and what is that? it lies, it impute evil to God who is perfect and holy. Paul stumbled upon something he did not think he was capable of, comparing himself to God by commandments to justify his own sins, but he found out he did not stand at all! God was perfect not Paul by his obedience, or even his desire to be obedience to God. The Law became a cruel task master breaking his flesh proving over and over again Paul could not be perfect by works of law, he could not put away the filth of his flesh he hated so much that he killed others to remove their sins against God's law, thinking he was righteous by such actions, as God is righteous by killing the sins of our flesh. (he was deceived by his flesh if he was obedient as he imagine by his own efforts than he must also punish those not as obedient making him a sinless god, a Christ, a sinless man in his own fleshly mind.)

James 2:9 But if you show partiality, you commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors. 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law, and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

The law that he believed with his whole soul, spirit, and mind was life, was found to be death to a sinner. But for a righteous man, one righteous man the law proved to be life, now Paul must remove his pride, and accept a gift without boasting in any merit in his flesh to serve and be saved by God. Paul found his own flesh evil not the righteous law of God, Paul found that he didn't get the message of the entire law, although, Saul a brilliant great teacher in all Israel. Saul had to be taken captive by Christ through humiliation for him to except the undeserved kindness in Christ. He found God is faithful and true, even if his heart condemned him, it wasn't about Paul's righteousness, it was about God's!

Ezekiel 36:22 Therefore tell the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: I don't do [this] for your sake, house of Israel, but for my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations, where you went. 36:23 I will sanctify my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I am Yahweh, says the Lord Yahweh, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

Daniel

discerning between the voice of a man and the voice of God (holy spirit) is no easy thing Daniel
But i love your voice very much, it resonates with my heart

September 17, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterbrian

Hi Brain so wonderful to hear from you. I have to agree with you on your comment it is a daily test of our faith. That old flesh it gets in the way and wants things its way. But I believe God is greater than our hearts and the right answer with come when we can rest and trust.

That might be seldom but God is not on our time table he never changes and is faithful no matter if we are not. He promises us he won't leave us that is hard to believe at times still it will always prove true. That is the reason its so important we actually understand Roman's why he is dealing with us in Spirit and not in our condemn flesh buried from his eyes.

Love You Brother,

Daniel

I love to Daniel
Thank you.

September 18, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterBrian

Did Good Become Death to me?

****Rom.7:12 Therefore the law indeed is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good. 7:13 Did then that which is good become death to me? May it never be! But sin, that it might be shown to be sin, by working death to me through that which is good; that through the commandment sin might become exceeding sinful.

The fundamental truth, the touch stone of our faith is found in Roman's Chapter Seven of our bibles understanding the truth of Roman's Seven and laying it as a template upon all other writings of the apostles unlocks them putting them into harmony with the Spirit. Let us note the fleshly mind acts as legalist in isolating words, clauses, verses and builds a case. Sometimes a fearful case of judgment by works of law, by some rule, or some law that itself can't keep fully, but instead applies to its neighbor.

Luke 5:12 It happened, while he was in one of the cities, behold, there was a man full of leprosy. When he saw Jesus, he fell on his face, and begged him, saying, "Lord, if you want to, you can make me clean." 5:13 He stretched out his hand, and touched him, saying, "I want to. Be made clean." Immediately the leprosy left him.

Paul here speaks plain truth about the commandments, and the law, but he unlike so many Christian's today do not separate the law from sin, the law cannot be sin it was created by a sinless God YHWH. The fleshly mind can't separate the two, it thinks: “if the law is good and I keep it I am good!” In other words, the fleshly mind consumes God's words thinking its a god, but it is a thief, it takes, defends like a dog from fear of losing what its possesses. It cannot know God, the flesh is oppose to God, and cannot be in subjection to the Spirit, hence, God, or his law and commandants its impossible!

Matt.7:6 "Don't give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

These brothers have forgotten God is love, love does not posses what is not rightfully its own, love does not live in fear of losing, love gives freely without evil motive. Love (God) blesses others with good, not evil, so is the law, and commandments good God gave Israel? So was the law a blessing, or a curse? Is God now evil instead of good? Here is where we must separate our flesh (sin) from God's Spirit if we don't we will head down a long road of false religion (works of law). Christ did not call himself good, or himself God, neither should we.

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

Philip.2:1 If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassion, 2:2 make my joy full, by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 2:3 doing nothing through rivalry or through conceit, but in humility, each counting others better than himself; 2:4 each of you not just looking to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 2:5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus,
2:6 who, existing in the form of God, didn't consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, 2:7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. 2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross. 2:9 Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name;

We did not create the law, its not ours because we obey some of it. In fact, we can't even judge it correctly as sinners, what we do know about the law and the commandments they are good, because it comes from a good God, but sin is the problem in us! Once again can we separate the flesh from the Spirit understanding we live in a condition of sin from our fallen flesh that we cannot get out of by obeying commandments, can we be that honest?

Romans 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God. 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

1 Corinthians 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

2 Corinthians 5:21 For him who knew no sin he made to be sin on our behalf; so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Galatians 2:21 I don't make void the grace of God. For if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing!"

We must have the mind of Christ to separated our flesh legally as God does to save us; there is no logic for the fleshly mind regarding this matter, because remember the fleshly mind under sin is a merit based, works of law – creature. However, with the mind of Christ we can separate the truth from flesh and its desires to prove itself righteous. Can we as a judge, a doctor remove our feelings and look at the patient, not the evil we all do in our hearts. The patient wants to be healthy, or they don't, they have friends and family they want to please or not? They have good and evil in them as we all do, but that is not the point? The point is why the law, and is the law good, not us? Can it heal the patient?

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. For it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree,"{Deuteronomy 21:23}

Yes, the law causes wrath in us towards God (inciting our flesh which cannot be in subjection to God by pointing out our sins), and it is a curse for sinners, not a blessing, but does that mean God is the same a curse for us? Has God now become evil handing us a serpent instead of a fish? If we were without sin, that would mean being righteous, without sin, like Christ, would the law and commandments be a curse to us or a blessing as it was to Christ? Yes it would have bless us with eternal life, like it did Christ! Let us separate the truth from our feelings of guilt and disappointments into God's unmerited kindness so we my see God as our Father, a loving Father of Spirit.

1 Timothy 1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers.

Matt.7:7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened for you. 7:8 For everyone who asks receives. He who seeks finds. To him who knocks it will be opened. 7:9 Or who is there among you, who, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? 7:10 Or if he asks for a fish, who will give him a serpent? 7:11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

James1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one. 1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death. 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers. 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

God is the law giver, he is the judge, he knows beyond doubt we cannot be saved by his righteous law, and commandments. He does not ridicule us, he does not mock us, or look down on us because we cannot keep his laws perfectly, he is love, what does love do my friend? It owes no one a single thing but love! God is not asking for payment by our works, he is not holding our debt, he is not good and evil. He blesses us with good, even those treating him evil.

God remove our curse sin by giving us a new life without sin, a righteous life, Christ Jesus. The problems is, do we want to live in Christ righteousness as a free gift of God's love, or our owning, earning merit to pay off the debt of sin against God's good, righteous, holy law, and commandments? Well, we can't, and if we say we can keep the law and its commandments we lie, and Christ died in vain! So we have a choice do we stop the lies of our flesh and except with humility the life of Christ? Christ, not us, completed God's law and its commandments for us, the only way we stay in righteousness is our staying in Christ rejecting our flesh as it is corruption; against the truth of God, and opposed to the Spirit.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

We deal with our flesh as a dead man talking and walking, by rejecting its pleading we are evil, or we are good deserving, what comes from its mouth is a spirit of corruption leading to our deception.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

That is the reason we walk in faith because the entire logic and fiber of the fleshly mind rejects that God has stop judging us by the law and its commandments, it is impossible for the flesh to believe undeserved kindness. We are in Christ righteous that is what keeps us in obedience to the law of Spirit, love. The commandments can't make us obedient to God's love, they can only prove we are sinner needing God's mercy. If we cannot separated the patient by our love for life from laws and commandments we kill the patient. If love cannot see good in the patient and hope all things and believe all things we lose the patient, us, and them!

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. 13:9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet,"{TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"}{Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21} and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}
13:10 Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

Rom.13:4 Love is patient and is kind; love doesn't envy. Love doesn't brag, is not proud, 13:5 doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil;
13:6 doesn't rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
13:8 Love never fails.

The Great Lie!

****Rom.7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin.

The Law is spiritual? That's what Paul stated under Holy Spirit, but did you catch it, catch what? Paul did not state as so many believe today that his flesh is spiritual!

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Yes, let us consider why so many believe despite the bibles fundamental teachings about our fallen flesh; instead teaching that the flesh is spiritual? Well, it is because false religion is fleshly, it worship the flesh, but God's law is spiritual, not our flesh, according to our bibles. Yes, weed Christian's are in love with the flesh, because they are birthed from false religion which is fleshly, false religion is flesh, and those weeds were spring up at Paul's time among those put do death in their flesh and made alive in the Spirit, they were trying to resurrect the flesh into God's spiritual law, the same law that condemned them, and us, as unrighteous, such fleshly teaching would create a weed patch that would be formed into false religion.

Jude 1:8 Yet in like manner these also in their dreaming defile the flesh, despise authority, and slander celestial beings.

Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

The law is from God YHWH, a Spirit God, how does the law affect our fallen flesh, does it reward it with life, does it bless our fallen flesh? Well, religion says it does, blinding its students to the truth of their condition in their flesh before God. The law spiritual as it is condemns the flesh as of no value in God's sight! It does not bless the flesh, it curses it with death, and all the plagues Adam had put upon him by his own flesh outside of the Garden of Eden.

Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. For it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree,"{Deuteronomy 21:23}

James 3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. For it is written, "Cursed is everyone who doesn't continue in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them."{Deuteronomy 27:26}

Romans 2:23 You who glory in the law, through your disobedience of the law do you dishonor God?

But false religion would have you and I go to a corrupt tree, the fallen flesh to pick good fruit of Holy Spirit, something that is a lie and impossible to find on a corrupt tree of the flesh dead to God by his judgment of his spiritual law. So these brothers and sisters if they were honest, if they love God more than this life in the flesh needed to sober up to true righteousness, but what is true righteousness, according to God's law?

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.
Matt.7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

The law proved not one person was righteous, did you know that? Not one person was righteous by the laws judgment upon us as human's. So how could a person stand righteous before God under the law? First, we and the brothers back then must understanding what Paul is speaking to here in Roman's chapter Seven our need to understand the true condition of our fallen flesh, as unrighteous, unable to make itself righteous before for God's righteous law by any work we can do on earth for mankind. True righteousness came from a gift of life given each member of Israel by God's own mercy found in the payment of innocent blood a sacrifice of life given them by God from his own love, and mercy to save them from the judgment of the his righteous spiritual law!

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

Yes, righteousness, true righteousness according the spiritual law of God is a gift from God, not from mankind up, mankind could not be righteous without blood. Yet, false religion uses Christ blood as a slogan token while they boast of good works in their flesh; boasting in the flesh in good works to prove their religion right/righteous. There is no room for boasting in flesh which flesh cannot please God, we must boast in Christ righteousness (Spirit). Now stop, and please listen to the truth. This was the whole point of the law, not keeping it, it could not be done by our fallen flesh, the law did not bless sinners, it condemned them, and blessed them with God's gift of innocent life; the blood to blot out their sins so Israel and its people could stand right before God in faith in the blood.

Hebrews 13:11 For the bodies of those animals, whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside of the camp.{Leviticus 16:27}

Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of goats and bulls, and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled, sanctify to the cleanness of the flesh:

Hebrews 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Hebrews 9:18 Therefore even the first covenant has not been dedicated without blood.

Each member within Israel could see God as love, as good by his forgiveness of their undeserved payment for their sins against his good, righteous, spiritual law. And/or condemn their brothers by laws they could not keep themselves without God's mercy. Israel, most of Israel did not appreciate God's gift of mercy, they chose to condemn the one righteous man God sent them from his love, Christ Jesus.

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.

Romans 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

Today, weed Christian's happily accept their righteousness given them freely than make others earn righteousness by religious doctrine, happy to feel good about their own goodness, while doling out the blood of Christ like a banker to any that don't fall into line with their teachings. They teach the power of the flesh, building it up again by making every spiritual gift freely given by God found in their bibles, dragging it into the unrighteousness of the flesh. Many mighty empires have been constructed since Christ time by the flesh called Babylon the Great, it should be of no surprise that it is the fleshly parts of Babylon that makes it great, lending and giving power to all the nations, to fleshly nations members under the power of the world's ruler, Satan.

2Cor. 4:1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, even as we obtained mercy, we don't faint. 4:2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by the manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
4:3 Even if our Good News is veiled, it is veiled in those who perish; 4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.
4:5 For we don't preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake; 4:6 seeing it is God who said, "Light will shine out of darkness,"{Genesis 1:3} who has shone in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 4:7 But we have this treasure in clay vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves.

Yet, as Christ comes, what is it that's being exposed in false religion, all false religions, mixed into government, and commerce the flesh! What makes the nations wrathful is it not the exposing of the flesh it deception and lying on every level corrupted through and through each and every institution every constructed by mankind from a corrupt tree? Where is that good fruit? Its exactly where Christ said it would be, on God's incorruptible tree, Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 2:19 promising them liberty, while they themselves are bondservants of corruption; for a man is brought into bondage by whoever overcomes him.

2 Peter 1:4 by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Rev.17:15 He said to me, "The waters which you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages. 17:16 The ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the prostitute, and will make her desolate, and will make her naked, and will eat her flesh, and will burn her utterly with fire. 17:17 For God has put in their hearts to do what he has in mind, and to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God should be accomplished. 17:18 The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth."

Isaiah 40:5 The glory of Yahweh shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together; for the mouth of Yahweh has spoken it." 40:6 The voice of one saying, "Cry!" One said, "What shall I cry?" "All flesh is like grass, and all its glory is like the flower of the field.

I Don't Practice What I Desire!

****Rom.7:15 For I don't know what I am doing. For I don't practice what I desire to do; but what I hate, that I do. 7:16 But if what I don't desire, that I do, I consent to the law that it is good. 7:17 So now it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me.

Why the Law? The apostle Paul summats the cold hard truth of the law that all of us are broken trying to perform by rules created for a sinless person. Yet, and here is the key, our mind tells us we can keep the law tricking us, so God gives us the law so we might see the lie of our fallen flesh when compared to God's glory.

Romans 3:7 For if the truth of God through my lie abounded to his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.


However, our fleshly mind is relentless in not giving up the idea we can be called righteous by works of law. Two force come into play, the truth and the lie, the law is perfect, it is righteous and good, and our flesh loves the law, but then the lie of our fallen flesh exposed on every point when we start thinking we can be made righteous by keeping the law as a sinner.

Romans 3:14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness."{Psalm 10:7}

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

A sinner cannot stand in God's judgment, under his law, it only curse us as sinner painfully revealing how far we fall short. Yet, the very nature of sin in us is to judge others as wicked for not keeping the law, while we live a lie because we think we are keeping the choice parts of the law. In other words, the law judges all of us as unrighteous, not righteous so how does one keep a little more law than their neighbor thinking we have a better standing? It is when one thinks, as these brothers were thinking back then that Christ life had made them righteous so they could judge others as not keeping the law making them prove they had been made righteous in Christ.

Matt.5:19 Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.


Matt.5:27 "You have heard that it was said, {TR adds "to the ancients,"} 'You shall not commit adultery;'{Exodus 20:14}
5:28 but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Galatians 3:11 Now that no man is justified by the law before God is evident, for, "The righteous will live by faith."{Habakkuk 2:4}

No! No! No! The law killed us dead in our flesh as sinners, it did not give us life, or judge us worthy in our flesh, if one thinks so they are sadly mistaken. It was the blood of an innocent victim, an animal that purchase our sins, so a person could be alive before God, and not judged into death by a righteous law. All were equal to the laws judgment, God was not partial letting some off because of special zeal for law keeping. No!

Romans 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

Ephesians 2:1 You were made alive when you were dead in transgressions and sins.

Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

Paul now wrestle with this subject for us, how could he love the law so much and yet be condemn by it? Something is wrong here? Zeal has always been the key for the flesh in progressing up the corporate ladder right? But not with God's law, no works of law, no zeal, no desire of Paul flesh was good enough to please the power of the laws in its judgment upon his sinful flesh. It did not matter if he hated his sinful flesh and its every unrighteous lust. It did not matter that he thought he must be righteous because he himself condemned all unrighteousness.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

The law stood perfectly, impartially, without prejudices towards all that came under it. It soundly declared we are not righteous no matter what we feel or think, nothing we could do in our own will would deliver us from a body under going death because of sin.

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Now what was left, total humility before God: I have nothing to offer you heavenly Father, I am a sinner without hope, a broken man.”

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

Luke.18:9 He spoke also this parable to certain people who were convinced of their own righteousness, and who despised all others.
18:10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray; one was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector. 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this: 'God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 18:12 I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all that I get.' 18:13 But the tax collector, standing far away, wouldn't even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."

The law was completed in Christ for us that is the gift of God, the hope given each one of us and these brothers, it is called unmerited kindness, grace, and/or undeserved kindness. In other words, God by the law of Christ without partiality removes our sins, and does not bring them up again by reenacting the law, why? Because we are dead in our flesh, put away, buried so our flesh is without judgment of the law.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Now if that is true the only way we could be judged is by our own self-righteousness, and/or that of others. Subsequently, that is precisely what was happening here, in an attempt to resurrect the already judged flesh by laws that did not pronounce the flesh as good and righteous, but only condemned all of us as hopeless. No! We are not worthy we are just as Christ stated to his apostles good for nothing slaves in our flesh, but loved of God in our spirit because we are in Christ, and he in us, which when put into plain simple words means it is his righteous life in us that makes us worthy.

Galatians 2:18 For if I build up again those things which I destroyed, I prove myself a law-breaker.

1 Corinthians 10:23 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are profitable. "All things are lawful for me," but not all things build up.

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. For it is written, "Cursed is everyone who doesn't continue in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them."{Deuteronomy 27:26}

Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. For it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree,"{Deuteronomy 21:23}

Luke 17:5 The apostles said to the Lord, "Increase our faith."
17:6 The Lord said, "If you had faith like a grain of mustard seed, you would tell this sycamore tree, 'Be uprooted, and be planted in the sea,' and it would obey you. 17:7 But who is there among you, having a servant plowing or keeping sheep, that will say, when he comes in from the field, 'Come immediately and sit down at the table,' 17:8 and will not rather tell him, 'Prepare my supper, clothe yourself properly, and serve me, while I eat and drink. Afterward you shall eat and drink'? 17:9 Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded? I think not. 17:10 Even so you also, when you have done all the things that are commanded you, say, 'We are unworthy servants. We have done our duty.'"

[b]In My Flesh Dwells No Good Thing?[/b]


Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.


Christ said to God's chosen people while upon earth (Israel) that only one was good, his Father YHWH! Now stop and think; think of all God's faithful prophets, the good kings of Israel, John the Baptist, and even the Son of God - according to Christ none were good! Many have hated the apostle Paul for repeating what Christ himself stated, does that shock you?

Matthew 19:16 Behold, one came to him and said, "Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"

Exodus 30:10 Aaron shall make atonement on its horns once in the year; with the blood of the sin offering of atonement once in the year he shall make atonement for it throughout your generations. It is most holy to Yahweh."

You see, it is context of the words that matter not what we think sounds good or bad, so what is the context? God is good, everything he does is perfect and good, even the creating of sinless life in the flesh and in the spirit world, only God is good that is the context, no other creation is in charge of being the source of life as the one good tree God who we all should stem from, but why?

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, "I have made my heart pure. I am clean and without sin?"

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

1 John 3:5 You know that he was revealed to take away our sins, and in him is no sin.

First, let us understand the entire issue of our bibles which is there is no life outside of God's good life, any thing outside of God's good life is death, and will corrupt into that which it was created from, in our case as humans, the dust we came from. That is the question before all of us in this life, the same question put before Adam and Eve with the exception of their being created without sin. Yes, sin makes nothing coming from us in this life, or good, or perfect in context to God's good without corruption as the source of all life.

James 1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.
1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.

1 John 3:9 Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God.

Do you understand that context? In other words, if mankind wants life eternal they must be attached to the good tree of life, like a branch. When one compares themselves to that tree nothing good dwell in themselves by the power of their own life and will which gives them eternal life. Mankind has been on a journey to prove those words wrong unwittingly upholding the first lie. Human want freedom, but they are sold into slavery by sin and its corruption, which is the lie if believed that says if we learn something new truth, science, create a better government or some other endeavor we can manage our lives apart from any contact with God. That is, we are gods imparted with life in our flesh and have every right to try things our way - self-governance. Facts don't matter to the newest generation, or the death of all human since sin was introduce into our world.

In other words, sin does not exist, it is mankind judgment of this life regarding what is good and bad that gives them life, not God's life that condemns all flesh as having no value at all for eternal life because sin is evil.

John 1:13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Thus, here Paul is not talking to the world, but the body of Christ, he is stating the truth for any Christian's that has tried in their flesh, mind, and hearts, to keep perfection, what perfection? The law given to Moses by God. The law does not redeem anyone by keeping it, it did not make mankind perfect without sin, nor did it bring Israel the kingdom paradise they so badly wanted. No! It proved a truth that anyone of us should humbly acknowledge if we have sought God with our whole heart. The perfection of God condemns us as falling short of his glory needing great mercy for his forgiveness.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Romans 10:9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10:10 For with the heart, one believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near.

Sinners come to God for the disappointment(s) of what they find in themselves not necessary what they see in others. When we take offense at the truth Paul spoke what are we saying: “I am good, I deserve something from God for may works in obeying his commandment over someone else.”

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

Paul is not speaking to the world, those that lust in their flesh, and lie to one another so they can practice sin in their flesh thinking they are smarter. No! Paul is speaking to those anointed into Christ own life, having his righteousness in them to produce a new mind, and new person for God's glory. He is not saying lets make people into Christ body by legislating God's commandments making the renew their own flesh into a sinless person.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.
1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

How can that be when God's chosen people could not perfect their own flesh with God's perfect law for two thousand's years? Just think of all the innocent animal life destroyed to forgive their sins, was God being foolish playing games with precious innocent life to make Israel feel better about sin? Why would those freely forgiven by Christ own life's blood think they could now perfect themselves by commandments? (it is the blood under the law, and in Christ that perfect us, by allowing us to stand before God without our sins), Why would they think they were perfect in their flesh when the very law of God proved in them that nothing good dwelt in them? They should rejoice in their freedom not enslaving others to what was impossible for any of the God's chosen people to keep without God sacrifice for atonement. Should we not be humble in spirit knowing we are under undeserved kindness, should we not extend the truth of mankind condition and hold out the only hope for others to be righteous in standing before a loving righteous, good heavenly Father by speaking truth?

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth. 3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic. 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed. 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.


Matt.7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

Romans 11:16 If the first fruit is holy, so is the lump. If the root is holy, so are the branches. 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them, and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree; 11:18 don't boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you.

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 15:6 If a man doesn't remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

Practicing Evil?
**** Rom.7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice. [/b]

Let us bear in mind, in our not losing the context of Paul's words here, what is he talking about? It is the law, measuring himself against perfection of God righteous and good law. He finds the wall (the law) is to high he cannot go over it, it reaches to the throne of God, and is so deep he cannot dig under it, it reaches into the center of our earth, and it is much, much to wide having no end! How does he get over it, how can he please God if he is divided off from God being condemn by the alienation of the great wall placed between himself and his God? God's wall is hostile towards his great efforts to please God, and the only way he can please God is by pure worship, meaning without sin!

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

James 2:9 But if you show partiality, you commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors.

1 John 3:6 Whoever remains in him doesn't sin. Whoever sins hasn't seen him, neither knows him.

Moreover, the only way to remove the wall of alienation is to have no sin, which the wall only personifies sin in Paul because he cannot in his power remove the wall or get around it. Now we have the context of what Paul speaks to here. His conversation is not personal, we are not being critical when we say a dog is not a fish we simply are stating the truth. If one becomes offended than its because the have gotten to believe the lie that a dog is a fish and that is what we want to believe in our heart, but it does not change the wall.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Nothing depends on Paul thoughts, his goodness, his efforts, Paul must believe the God behind the wall wants a restored his relationship with Paul and will provide away for him because he is a good and righteous God that must do what is justice!

Deuteronomy 32:4 The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice: a God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Job 4:17 'Shall mortal man be more just than God? Shall a man be more pure than his Maker?

Matthew 5:45 that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust.

Matthew 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Today there are numerous religions and religious people that have set up an illusion that one can by good works remove the great wall, by human goodness, and righteousness in obeying the commandments they earn steps up the ladder to final go over the top of wall. They do not see themselves like Paul did, objectively, measuring himself against true righteousness. They measure themselves instead by themselves. In other words, they see improvement in their trying not to sin and other see their improvement, so they are simply satisfied with such self-praise and praise from other religious people.

Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could make alive, most certainly righteousness would have been of the law.

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we are not bold to number or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves. But they themselves, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves with themselves, are without understanding.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

This illusion is the core of all false religion, it starts from a false premise and ends with a house built upon a sandy foundation. It will crash, and those that have crashed, finding themselves devastated by false religion have actually received a blessing from God. He has judged their works finding them wanting just like Paul faced in his own life, so they have time to repent and accept the unmerited kindness of God,, that is, grace, undeserved kindness, so they can build upon the one deserving person without sin whom removed the wall for us by his precious righteous blood, that is, without sin Christ Jesus. No more having the illusion that something good dwells in sin, that is, the fallen flesh that will get us eternal life.

Eph.2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off are made near in the blood of Christ. 2:14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and broke down the middle wall of partition, 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace; 2:16 and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, having killed the hostility thereby. 2:17 He came and preached peace to you who were far off and to those who were near.

They divide the flesh from the spirit understanding the flesh is of no value at all in serving God. Moreover, they do the same for others, not hating one another like the world, and/or false religion because religious people believe they can legislate purity of flesh by commandments of God. Without the gift of grace there is no forgiveness of sins, and/or righteousness because Christ does not live in the wall, where on must beg God; “who will go up to bring Christ down, or who will go down to bring Christ up?” Why ask such a foolish question?

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

Our begging for purity in our flesh is because we believe in our hearts we can earn salvation by our good works. The fact one must beg for such help proves they cannot do even the least thing and remove sin from themselves, it proves they think God is a man judging us like we judge each other. They are proving they do not know the love of God, whatsoever!

Rom.9:8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.

Rom.9:33 even as it is written, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and a rock of offense; and no one who believes in him will be disappointed."{Isaiah 8:14; 28:16}

Rom.10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith says this, "Don't say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'{Deuteronomy 30:12} (that is, to bring Christ down); 10:7 or, 'Who will descend into the abyss?'{Deuteronomy 30:13} (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead.)" 10:8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth, and in your heart;"{Deuteronomy 30:14} that is, the word of faith, which we preach: 10:9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10:10 For with the heart, one believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 10:11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in him will not be disappointed."{Isaiah 28:16}

They are condemned in their own hearts because they judge as the world does in the flesh, they judge the flesh of others so they have a standing before man, believing the lie that if their better than other religious people they are better with God. The power of sin rules in their own lives, and they love those that prosper in condemning the sins in other giving them control and power into their lives. They dare not say: “nothing good dwells in my flesh” as did Paul because that mean all are equal in the eyes of sin, none can gain prominence by self works.

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God loved us in this way, we also ought to love one another.

Romans 6:16 Don't you know that to whom you present yourselves as servants to obedience, his servants you are whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?

They are simply fellow workers in the free gift of life, in their hearts they have declared Christ righteous, his righteousness has given them standing with God removing the wall of alienation and hostility and they want to share the gift of God love freely with others.

Luke 6:37 Don't judge, and you won't be judged. Don't condemn, and you won't be condemned. Set free, and you will be set free.

John 8:36 If therefore the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.

Galatians 5:1 Stand firm therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and don't be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

1 Peter 2:16 as free, and not using your freedom for a cloak of wickedness, but as bondservants of God.

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.

While I Desire to do Good?

****Rom.7:20 But if what I don't desire, that I do, it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me. 7:21 I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present.

What can be more disappointing then when we fail at something and don't measure up to our own standards? We can really be hard on ourselves because we don't tolerate it in others, why would we tolerated in ourselves? Sometimes it just happens and it can be really devastating for us, it take us aback, where we doubt ourselves!

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in clay vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves.

We all have a conscience developed by many experiences throughout our lives, we learn to be a good employee, and honest person, where our word means something to family and friends, and so on. . . We don't need someone to tells us to do the right thing that is something we must do because that is what we are; our standards dictate us to do what is correct.

Romans 2:15 in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience testifying with them, and their thoughts among themselves accusing or else excusing them.

But my friend this is not what the apostles Paul was speaking to here in Roman's Chapter Seven, he was not speaking to a personal court of law in us, where we hold our feet to the fire and become offend when someone question are commitment to doing what is right. No! Such standards of right and wrong are highly personal to us and we can easily take offense when people assume they know us?

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures. 1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger; 1:20 for the anger of man doesn't produce the righteousness of God.

Paul speaks to a much higher court of law, which we may assume we want to keep because we are a good person one that does not let ourselves off the hook when failing short of our standards. Paul instead speaks to a perfect law, a law so perfect that only a perfect man could keep it. A perfect man like Adam was before sinning, a perfect man like Christ who was without sin. Yes, a perfect standard written on paper of do's and don't that we human that have our own standards of right and wrong can measure ourselves against.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

We may become highly offended when we will not steal, and some one suggest we could steal because they don't know anything about us? But we cannot become highly offended when God's law tells us as sinner we cannot keep his law!

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

Romans 2:13 For it isn't the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified

We cannot have two incompatible things measure against one another by the same standards, it is impossible. We cannot measure a fish against a cat, and than become offended because we love our fish! But such should not be the case when it comes to God's law. God's own people Israel became highly offended over Christ telling them they could not measure up to perfect law of God, that is, having no sin while being a sinner. But why all the offense inciting them to kill the Son of God?

Romans 10:19 But I ask, didn't Israel know? First Moses says, "I will provoke you to jealousy with that which is no nation, with a nation void of understanding I will make you angry."{Deuteronomy 32:31}

Romans 11:11 I ask then, did they stumble that they might fall? May it never be! But by their fall salvation has come to the Gentiles, to provoke them to jealousy.

It is the same reason Christian's become highly offended over someone telling them they cannot keep the law of God because they to our sinners. It is because they hold court in themselves for not stealing, committing adultery, being a honest person, they honestly believe because they feel so strongly about what God says is righteous they are keeping the law, and are justified by their own actions, that is, lets be clear about this terminology, their own righteousness against such unclean acts. Yes, they have become self-righteous by their own good action towards God's laws. They mix their strong feelings of righteousness into a perfect law for non-sinners which they cannot keep as a sinner!

Matthew 7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

James 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge.

Moreover, because they have a love for righteousness they assume their desires complete the law for them. But not the apostle Paul, he measure himself against Christ whom completed the law and Paul came up far short of God's glory from that of a sinless man, Christ Jesus. The truth was stunning, how could nothing good dwell in Paul who's desires at one point to keep and obey God's righteous laws so much that he murder Christ followers as unclean apostates from the law?

Acts 8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into every house, and dragged both men and women off to prison.

Acts 9:1 But Saul, still breathing threats and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest,

Acts 9:4 He fell on the earth, and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?"

How could Paul lay down his power of self to be told by weak and beggarly Christian's teachers that he was not a righteous man by his own actions in obeying the commandments? Paul although a brilliant teacher in all Israel had forgotten the very purpose of the altar of God, and the blood of lamb. Paul could not be justified by his own actions under the law, the blood was the justification proving Paul like all other were, sinner law breakers.

2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness already works. Only there is one who restrains now, until he is taken out of the way.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

Now how on God's earth had he assumed he was Christ, a perfect man without sin giving him the right to judge sinners? He felt his offense towards unrighteousness thinking he had greater privilege under the blood upon the altar. But he was sadly mistaken God is not partial having better and worst sins as human do and practice.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

John 8:16 Even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent me.

John 12:47 If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn't believe, I don't judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

God did not ask Paul to be his own king, his own judge under the law. God was the King and lawgiver, and he made no bones that none could keep his righteous law for non-sinner without blood, his own mercy in offering innocent life for payment of sin. How could a haughty man accept the blood upon the altar? It was impossible! Who deserves the life of another, who could demand such a thing for personal righteousness when the law declared all of us sinner as unrighteous?

James 4:12 Only one is the lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge another?

Paul had been badly deceived, he had done much evil in the name of God's righteousness, he had measure himself against his own standards he thought he had earned by his own works. He was not God or equal too God, he was not privileged by his great education, he was not anything before God's righteousness but filthy rags, bloody by his own sin against the Son of God!

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Isaiah 64:6 For we have all become as one who is unclean, and all our righteousness is as a polluted garment: and we all fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

Isaiah 35:8 A highway will be there, a road, and it will be called The Holy Way. The unclean shall not pass over it, but it will be for those who walk in the Way. Wicked fools will not go there.

Proverbs 14:16 A wise man fears, and shuns evil, but the fool is hotheaded and reckless.

1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone thinks that he is wise among you in this world, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.

Matthew 5:22 But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause{NU omits "without a cause".} shall be in danger of the judgment; and whoever shall say to his brother, 'Raca{"Raca" is an Aramaic insult, related to the word for "empty" and conveying the idea of empty-headedness.}!' shall be in danger of the council; and whoever shall say, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of the fire of Gehenna.{or, Hell}

Captivity

****Rom.7:22 For I delight in God's law after the inward man,
7:23 but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members.

To be dragged into captivity is perhaps one of the worst experiences a person could have in this life. To have a relentless enemy that used all of their resources to bring us under control into captivity changes our entire life, the way we think, the way we view ourselves, and others.

Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people go into captivity for lack of knowledge. Their honorable men are famished, and their multitudes are parched with thirst.

Paul found himself in a losing battle, although, knowing it was life and death if he lost this battle he could not muster the power or will to defeat this relentless enemy! He found himself defeated, hopeless having nothing of worth within himself to obtain victory over the law by his sins. Paul was brutally honest, he had a fair and good mind that believed in justice for all, he did not make himself the special exception to the rule of law like so many do in favor of lying in gaining some status in this life.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

Paul could not apply the law of God without being defeated, condemned, and brought into captivity to its judgment of sin in himself. Yet, in the billions of people to live upon this earth most would disagree with the measurement of Paul against the law. They would move on thinking their not such a wretch sinner excusing their own desires claiming righteousness in themselves by their good motives to serve God.'

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Galatians 3:11 Now that no man is justified by the law before God is evident, for, "The righteous will live by faith."{Habakkuk 2:4}

Paul used no excuse he used his legal mind like a judge and/or an attorney finding that if he wanted done on to himself he must do on to others the same measure or he could not stand. Paul refused to pervert justice knowing God himself would not perverts justice under his law treating Paul as special. He found what so many should have found under the law at his own time pure unadulterated truth the very reason God created the law, so mankind could struggle against it, so mankind could by their own efforts reveal the lie of our fallen flesh which so few ever acknowledge in this life.

Psalms 138:6 For though Yahweh is high, yet he looks after the lowly; but the proud, he knows from afar.

James 4:6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."{Proverbs 3:34}

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Yes, God's perfect instrument brought out the fallen flesh self-justification that can and has accepted the billions of human life lost by Adam and Eve sin to save themselves by looking good in their own flesh. That sin perverts justice so profoundly that it will take complete and unabated corruption and teach God condones it as good fruit! Sin in humans will build empires of false religion controlling and misleading millions so it can justify self-righteousness in the flesh. Sadly, true, the fallen flesh seeks with all its power godship.

1 Timothy 1:7 desiring to be teachers of the law, though they understand neither what they say, nor about what they strongly affirm.

Galatians 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

Paul sought what few did, he sought God, the truth, the narrow road in a life that would suffer rather than justify evil of sin found in himself, he sought God's face in this matter, he wanted to know how will a righteous and good God deal with the impossible? Why would he deal with it? Why when so many are but liars seeking their own interest in this life calling it God's ways? Paul found when his own flesh was nail down, to the stake of Christ all its weakness were exposed, it used every maneuver imaginable toget out of the light of truth.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Hebrews 5:7 He, in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and petitions with strong crying and tears to him who was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind; for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin;

He found nothing not one thing in his lying flesh submitted to God's will and it would use every form of deception to obtain to its wants and needs, demanded them including using God's word the bible to justify its pure motives, it was completely corrupt when measured against the truth.

Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire.

Galatians 4:29 But as then, he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now.

Galatians 2:16 yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law, because no flesh will be justified by the works of the law.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

What was left, once the truth exposed the lie? Humility, but not the humility of Paul's flesh, but God humility in love towards us. God must be greater than our sins, God must be our Father seeing the good in us, or we are found hopeless under mankind loving kindness, all of which is nothing but a flower that withers under the hot Sun. We would be left to a world where a person will compromise an entire civilization for power and glory. Where human life is aborted for the gains of a career demanded and deserved. Where leaders will become rich on the back of poor under their control believing as a god they have the right to such power and riches. Yes, if mankind could not see the truth of their own condition than how could the love a righteous God, without sin?

Isa. 40:6 The voice of one saying, "Cry!" One said, "What shall I cry?" "All flesh is like grass, and all its glory is like the flower of the field.
40:7 The grass withers, the flower fades, because Yahweh's breath blows on it. Surely the people are like grass. 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades; but the word of our God stands forever."

Psalms 94:4 They pour out arrogant words. All the evildoers boast.

Romans 11:18 don't boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you.

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

Paul blessed God for not compromising under pressure as we human do in Him telling us the truth, not for fame, not to be liked, but to save us from this body under going death, who could find such a faithful witness on earth? What a hope we have in a God that cannot lie, cannot pervert justice no matter how much is lost, and/or how much ones hate him for telling the truth.

Exodus 34:6 Yahweh passed by before him, and proclaimed, "Yahweh! Yahweh, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, and abundant in loving kindness and truth.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to always give thanks to God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief in the truth;

1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause we also thank God without ceasing, that, when you received from us the word of the message of God, you accepted it not as the word of men, but, as it is in truth, the word of God, which also works in you who believe.

Romans 1:25 who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

Such a God can only show us compassion and love, because he alone knows what in mankind, he alone can fix the problem provided we love him for telling us the truth and nothing but the truth?

John 3:19 This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

John 3:21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God."

Wretched Man Fights a Dead Body

****Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

Some people live vicariously through some sports hero living a fancy life that they are them, Instead of comparing their own physical condition against a professional they deceive themselves in a make believe world they are as good. Sadly, this is very offensive to mature people who understand it may be only one in a million that can be such a great athlete.

Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own opinion.

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we are not bold to number or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves. But they themselves, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves with themselves, are without understanding.

The facts are not offensive if we are honest and want a sound mind, not being mislead, or misleading others with such foolishness. Simply put, living a lie is not being sound of mind! The apostle Paul states something very offensive to people living a lie, in a fancy world of religious sports, what do we mean? Those believing that they are or can be Christ on earth in the flesh because they read or hear a minster preach about how wonderful Christ was. Christ came because we could not be good enough to run the race of life, that is, to be perfect enough because we are all born into sin, which disqualifies us from meeting the perfect law of God.

Isaiah 32:6 For the fool will speak folly, and his heart will work iniquity, to practice profanity, and to utter error against Yahweh, To make empty the soul of the hungry, and to cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone thinks that he is wise among you in this world, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.

Revelation 5:12 saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb who has been killed to receive the power, wealth, wisdom, strength, honor, glory, and blessing!"

Someone that believes they are a superior a professional athlete because they watch sports and love sports thinking they are running a race, are doing so in their own minds and emotions, but they simply could not qualify to get into the race or sport from the gate because of their physical condition. It is a pretty foolish seen when one of these fans are invited to try against a professional athlete.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, "I have made my heart pure. I am clean and without sin?"

False religion has made Christ into play dole where he can be wrapped around our personal feeling to comfort us in whatever our needs and wants are in this world. Christ is an idol to false religion, an object that lives by human feeling projected into dead object that they can love, making it more real and human with feeling like our own.

1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols.

Rom.1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse. 1:21 Because, knowing God, they didn't glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened.
1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

Sadly, the apostle Paul words above are offensive, fear inspiring, and confusing to so many Christian's. How could Paul not feel good about himself he was a blessed man, a prosperous man in Christ than the person pictures their successful minister with a big church, a nice suit a beautiful home, and a very nice hair cut believing this was how Paul must of sounded and looked like!

2 Corinthians 10:1 Now I Paul, myself, entreat you by the humility and gentleness of Christ; I who in your presence am lowly among you, but being absent am of good courage toward you.

2Cor.12:9 He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Most gladly therefore I will rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest on me. 12:10 Therefore I take pleasure in weaknesses, in injuries, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then am I strong.

However, Paul did something that every truth lover must do, he looked honestly at God's law, a perfect law that only a perfect person without sin could complete, that is, finish the race of life, and be rewarded with eternal life for keeping the whole law in every jot and tittle of it. He did not delude himself with false reasoning because of his desire, he actually tried to be perfect enough to run against the law without sinning.

Rom. 7:9 I was alive apart from the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
7:10 The commandment, which was for life, this I found to be for death; 7:11 for sin, finding occasion through the commandment, deceived me, and through it killed me. 7:12 Therefore the law indeed is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good.
7:13 Did then that which is good become death to me? May it never be! But sin, that it might be shown to be sin, by working death to me through that which is good; that through the commandment sin might become exceeding sinful.

He found no matter how much he loved the law, God, and himself, he failed miserably under the righteousness of the law. What he did not do was entertain himself with the laws justice, thinking it applied to someone else because he loved it with zeal. No! He did not live in a fancy world of make believe, he did as a judge would do, divorce himself from himself and judged himself by the law without emotions. The facts became clear if he was honest and just about himself not showing favoritism, but judging himself as he would another person he did not know personally.

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.
7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you. 7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? 7:4 Or how will you tell your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye? 7:5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.

The law slaughter him, it killed him, and buried him in unrighteousness he could not find any help within his own sinful flesh that would redeem him from a body under going death from Adam sin. He did not delude himself that he was exempt, special above the law for being a teacher of the law, he faced the dragon eye to eye, the fear of judgment he had avoided by making others uphold it. What a shock! What a truth! Nothing in his flesh was good or righteous, nothing he had thought was correct regarding his personal worth was correct, nothing society or his religion had taught him was the truth!

Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good. 7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.
7:20 But if what I don't desire, that I do, it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me.
7:21 I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present.

Now he stated the only truth anyone of us can say honestly, who will love me enough to delivery me out of the wretch condition of sin that offend God's righteous law? Who could forgive such a thing, who would want to help a wretch man like me? Paul found a truth on that day one we all must learn, he could not judge himself correctly, or could he judge other correctly, he found God's love was greater than his own judgmental heart of himself and others, he had completely misinterpreted God, and what he thought God was like? He had thought until this day God would not accept him if he was not good enough in his flesh, but rather he now knew God was not judging his flesh.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Paul was judging the flesh, but not God or Christ, they were done with what could not be reformed that had been dead since Adam sinned and past on to all mankind. God was concerned with life, and his judgment of life with the fruit of life, the Holy Spirit that waters and grows the tree of life into eternal life with God in paradise. God was not a God of the dead, of Adam sin, he was a God of living the life found in his Son Christ Jesus, Paul had been sadly mistaken as are all those in false religion that practice reforming a dead flesh to God into idol to hang pretty things upon, like words, titles, good works, knowledge, clothing that makes one look clean and righteous, but it is an illusion of putting something clean on a dead body to comfort us from the truth of being a wretch man unable to bring ourselves to life with God by Spirit, and truth!

Haggai 2:12 'If someone carries holy meat in the fold of his garment, and with his fold touches bread, stew, wine, oil, or any food, will it become holy?'" The priests answered, "No."

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Haggai 2:13 Then Haggai said, "If one who is unclean by reason of a dead body touch any of these, will it be unclean?" The priests answered, "It will be unclean."
2:14 Then Haggai answered, "'So is this people, and so is this nation before me,' says Yahweh; 'and so is every work of their hands. That which they offer there is unclean.
2:15 Now, please consider from this day and backward, before a stone was laid on a stone in the temple of Yahweh.
2:16 Through all that time, when one came to a heap of twenty measures, there were only ten. When one came to the wine vat to draw out fifty, there were only twenty.
2:17 I struck you with blight, mildew, and hail in all the work of your hands; yet you didn't turn to me,' says Yahweh.
2:18 'Consider, please, from this day and backward, from the twenty-fourth day of the ninth month, since the day that the foundation of Yahweh's temple was laid, consider it.
2:19 Is the seed yet in the barn? Yes, the vine, the fig tree, the pomegranate, and the olive tree haven't brought forth. From this day will I bless you.'"

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.


Completed: December 03, 2016

by: Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus

December 3, 2016 | Registered CommenterJWsStraightTalk

Sandra,

Here is the information on Roman's Seven I was speaking about hope this is of encouragement to you.

Daniel