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No Sign-in/All Your Information Anonymous > Jerusalem Above or Below, Will the Old be Restored?

New Creation

Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation. [/b]

Often we uses terms from our bibles taught to us by some religion that has told us what we should think, how a certain term is to be used in context to the rest of the scriptures. Subsequently, down the road we go not realizing when we start from error we finish in error.

Zechariah 4:10 Indeed, who despises the day of small things? For these seven shall rejoice, and shall see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel. These are the eyes of Yahweh, which run back and forth through the whole earth."

If one builds something not square it will end up not being square, so many feel impelled to prophecy about the bible based upon faulty teachings, believing the Holy Spirit pushed them to start with faulty information and end with faulty information which denies the very truth itself the Holy Spirit which cannot lie!

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

Why a new creation, simple thought, yet, most haven't given it much thought, its a nice term, it sound like a time when war will be no more, or death, sorrow or tears. New, but from what is the question, and what is old? We hear of a new heavens, and some day a new earth? Why is earthly Jerusalem still part of the old heavens, and all false religion?

Matt.5:17 "Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18 For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter{literally, iota} or one tiny pen stroke{or, serif} shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.
5:19 Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 5:20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

New Heaven's

We can say emphatically that the earthly Jerusalem and its people Israel are not the new heaven's that will rule mankind. There are however, members from Israel that are part of the new heaven's that will rule in Christ as Kings and Priest over mankind.

Luke 5:37 No one puts new wine into old wineskins, or else the new wine will burst the skins, and it will be spilled, and the skins will be destroyed.

James.3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water. 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.

One person without sin is the new heavens (Christ), where his righteousness dwell for mankind. No other person among God's people ever to live on this earth was without sin. Not even in all Israel was found a righteous man that could take sin away from his brothers. Thus, they were exempted from being the new heavens, or being let into the new heavens, which are created new to rule over mankind without sin. When we fail to understand some elementary teachings of our bibles we can do nothing more then draw erroneously conclusion.

John 3:3 Jesus answered him, "Most certainly, I tell you, unless one is born anew,{The word translated "anew" here and in John 3:7 (anothen) also means "again" and "from above".} he can't see the Kingdom of God."

Acts 1:5 For John indeed baptized in water, but you will be baptized in the Holy Spirit not many days from now."

Luke 7:28 "For I tell you, among those who are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptizer, yet he who is least in the Kingdom of God is greater than he."

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Do we understand the righteousness of the new heavens? The term righteous literally means without sin, anything with sin is not in the new heavens. Moreover, human's cannot be righteous once they have sinned by anything they can do in their old heaven's and earth, they must be made righteous by God's provision of atonement for their sins and set right in his eyes to be apart of his new heavens. Hence, our righteousness come from above too us through the Holy Spirit, not a book, a place, or a thing that is why we must have faith in the unseen new heavens or we cannot please God, meaning, we cannot get our sins atone for making us an enemy of God.

Psalms 49:7 none of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give God a ransom for him.

Revelation 15:4 Who wouldn't fear you, Lord, and glorify your name? For you only are holy. For all the nations will come and worship before you. For your righteous acts have been revealed."

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.
Hence, any person accepting God's provision for sin is part of God's family, part of Christ, which is the new heavens, they become a new creation. There is no such thing as Christ righteousness by proxy, that is, we are part of something we are told is righteous, thus, because we are a member therein we have Christ righteousness, such is evil and above all false, a lie!

Acts 10:35 but in every nation he who fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.

Luke 20:21 They asked him, "Teacher, we know that you say and teach what is right, and aren't partial to anyone, but truly teach the way of God.

Rom.2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh;
2:29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not from men, but from God.

We cannot be made righteous by anything less than Christ own life, which is, first of all sinless, which makes him righteous, and our accepting God's gift of Christ (righteousness) life making us righteous. Did Israel accept Christ as a group? Moreover, is there a mass conversation where a person can associate with a certain group that Christ blood covers as a composite man, or is it an individually acceptance of Christ into our own life, as our righteousness?

Exodus.12:3 Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying, 'On the tenth day of this month, they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to their fathers' houses, a lamb for a household;
12:4 and if the household is too little for a lamb, then he and his neighbor next to his house shall take one according to the number of the souls; according to what everyone can eat you shall make your count for the lamb.
12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male a year old. You shall take it from the sheep, or from the goats:
12:6 and you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month; and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at evening. 12:7 They shall take some of the blood, and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel, on the houses in which they shall eat it. 12:8 They shall eat the flesh in that night, roasted with fire, and unleavened bread. They shall eat it with bitter herbs.
12:9 Don't eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted with fire; with its head, its legs and its inner parts. 12:10 You shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; but that which remains of it until the morning you shall burn with fire. 12:11 This is how you shall eat it: with your waist girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste: it is Yahweh's Passover. 12:12 For I will go through the land of Egypt in that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and animal. Against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am Yahweh. 12:13 The blood shall be to you for a token on the houses where you are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and there shall no plague be on you to destroy you, when I strike the land of Egypt.

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all be revealed before the judgment seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

Romans 14:10 But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Fundamental Truth

The entire system of things of Israel was set up by God it was the people of Israel heaven's and earth, it was different than all the others kingdoms round about Israel, but is was not a new heaven's and earth. Why? It was because Christ had not arrived the one person sinless that would fulfill all the law, the law of God, and complete the old covenant made effective by animal blood, by his own righteous blood. Pure, and simple, Christ was the only sinless man on earth since Adam, the only person that could redeem us from sin, for how long? Once for all time that is how priceless Christ blood is, nothing to mock or trample upon.

Hebrews 11:28 By faith, he kept the Passover, and the sprinkling of the blood, that the destroyer of the firstborn should not touch them.

Hebrews 10:29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will he be judged worthy of, who has trodden under foot the Son of God, and has counted the blood of the covenant with which he was sanctified an unholy thing, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?

Hebrews 10:4 For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins.

Hebrews 9:18 Therefore even the first covenant has not been dedicated without blood.

Hebrews 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Hebrews 9:12 nor yet through the blood of goats and calves, but through his own blood, entered in once for all into the Holy Place, having obtained eternal redemption.

Hebrews 10:2 Or else wouldn't they have ceased to be offered, because the worshippers, having been once cleansed, would have had no more consciousness of sins?

Hebrews 10:10 by which will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

With Christ life, his blood instituted a new covenant, and a new heavens started ruling over God's children, son's of God from heaven a spiritual Israel (without sin), who worship not in some mountain, or temple under the old heavens, but in Christ, in God's spirit temple the truth. Having no boarders, not bound by laws for our flesh, do we really understanding what this means? The flesh died in Christ for God's new creation, thus, the laws of this earth, including the laws over the old heavens and earth for God's people were abolished, in Christ a spirit being that must be worship in Spirit and truth, without flesh.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

Romans 9:8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Nothing of the old did Christ take into the New Jerusalem above, plain and simple, because corruption cannot inherit incorruption it is impossible and goes against every bible teaching! To be in the new heavens, and the new earth under Christ 1000-year rule one must be made new by Christ righteous life, making him our father, like Adam who was our father in the old earth. Being born again, means being made new in the life of Christ. Christ life is new, without sin, it is righteous, and when we are part of his body we are new. Our old flesh is the after birth.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

Romans 6:16 Don't you know that to whom you present yourselves as servants to obedience, his servants you are whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:5 For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will also be part of his resurrection;

Has all Israel under the law been born again, into Christ? No! The law harden them against who? Christ, they judged him a sinner, not righteous, they condemned and killed him as a common sinner from Adam, as a lawbreaker, someone not worthy, as a criminal. When Israel was harden, blinded, made to not hear, and see, it was with the law of God, just as Christian's today can be harden by judging with the same old laws for sins of our flesh put away in Christ once for all times, how then can looking back to Israel soften our hearts, better yet, how can going back to the weak and beggarly things of physical Israel birth a person into God's love, where condemnation is abolished for this children?

Galatians 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, why do you turn back again to the weak and miserable elemental principles, to which you desire to be in bondage all over again?

Romans 11:25 For I don't desire you to be ignorant, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} of this mystery, so that you won't be wise in your own conceits, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Titus 3:9 but shun foolish questionings, genealogies, strife, and disputes about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;

Galatians 3:24 So that the law has become our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Will some of Israel yet be saved, touched by the love of God, in Christ through God's undeserved kindness, of course! It been happening for two thousand's years. Does that mean God is restoring the old heavens, bring back the old law covenant, the sacrifice for sins. How foolish! There is nothing superior under the old heavens for the new creation made righteous by Christ blood. Who would teach such a thing? The very thing Christ died an agonizing death for us. unless it is to enslave a person to deny the body of Christ, and go out into the wilderness where the goat of sin was sent!

Levitius 16:10 But the goat, on which the lot fell for the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before Yahweh, to make atonement for him, to send him away for the scapegoat into the wilderness.

2 Peter 2:22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb, "The dog turns to his own vomit again,"{Proverbs 26:11} and "the sow that has washed to wallowing in the mire."
Levitius 16:10 But the goat, on which the lot fell for the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before Yahweh, to make atonement for him, to send him away for the scapegoat into the wilderness.

John 1:29 The next day, he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

Acts 8:32 Now the passage of the Scripture which he was reading was this, "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter. As a lamb before his shearer is silent, so he doesn't open his mouth.

1 Peter 1:19 but with precious blood, as of a faultless and pure lamb, the blood of Christ;

Revelation 5:6 I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth.

If you are waiting for the old to be restored under the new heavens you have been sadly mislead into the very yeast, and the old wine skins Christ warned us about. If you are seeking signs as a crooked and twisted generation in fleshly Israel than you are not part of Christ new heaven unshakable by human events on earth, you are looking to a idol of flesh, walking by sight.

Matthew 13:33 He spoke another parable to them. "The Kingdom of Heaven is like yeast, which a woman took, and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of meal, until it was all leavened."

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old yeast, neither with the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Mark 13:22 For there will arise false christs and false prophets, and will show signs and wonders, that they may lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.

Matthew 12:39 But he answered them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, but no sign will be given it but the sign of Jonah the prophet.

If you think touching Israel will give you Christ righteousness, than you are fooled. Christ is done with the flesh, it cannot be reformed by laws for the flesh. Christ life, is eternal life, and is the power of the new heavens we can only have eternal life by communing with his life in us that is how we are washed clean of our sins in Christ and sanctify in Spirit, through Christ our temple, which we become part of making us a temple for the living Word of God Christ Jesus. The bread of life does not exist on earth, it comes down to us, if we are humbled in our flesh, and stop seeking salvation in human efforts.

Haggai 2:12 'If someone carries holy meat in the fold of his garment, and with his fold touches bread, stew, wine, oil, or any food, will it become holy?'" The priests answered, "No."

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Nothing from sinful hands or minds builds the house of God, we must be made new, by a new birth, not the old birth into sin, but a new birth into a new life where righteousness dwells. If you are birthed into an old life, from this earth, in Israel you have all the fruits of death at work in you. Moreover, the works of the flesh in evil fruit that is not the works of life found in true righteousness by Holy Spirit.

James 3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water? 3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic. 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed. 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Matt.7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. 7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit. 7:19 Every tree that doesn't grow good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire.
7:20 Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.

Each of us, can make these simple judgments of fruit on the tree (good or bad, not both on the same tree). Christ fruit are pure and sweet, but you must walk by faith, come take life's water free, pure and true from the faithful witness raised above as our salvation. He is not hard to find, he is not far off from any of us, should we honestly search for him, he will be found!

Matthew 8:10 When Jesus heard it, he marveled, and said to those who followed, "Most certainly I tell you, I haven't found so great a faith, not even in Israel.

Luke.14:7 He spoke a parable to those who were invited, when he noticed how they chose the best seats, and said to them,
14:8 "When you are invited by anyone to a marriage feast, don't sit in the best seat, since perhaps someone more honorable than you might be invited by him, 14:9 and he who invited both of you would come and tell you, 'Make room for this person.' Then you would begin, with shame, to take the lowest place.
14:10 But when you are invited, go and sit in the lowest place, so that when he who invited you comes, he may tell you, 'Friend, move up higher.' Then you will be honored in the presence of all who sit at the table with you. 14:11 For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
14:12 He also said to the one who had invited him, "When you make a dinner or a supper, don't call your friends, nor your brothers, nor your kinsmen, nor rich neighbors, or perhaps they might also return the favor, and pay you back. 14:13 But when you make a feast, ask the poor, the maimed, the lame, or the blind;
14:14 and you will be blessed, because they don't have the resources to repay you. For you will be repaid in the resurrection of the righteous." 14:15 When one of those who sat at the table with him heard these things, he said to him, "Blessed is he who will feast in the Kingdom of God!" 14:16 But he said to him, "A certain man made a great supper, and he invited many people. 14:17 He sent out his servant at supper time to tell those who were invited, 'Come, for everything is ready now.' 14:18 They all as one began to make excuses. "The first said to him, 'I have bought a field, and I must go and see it. Please have me excused.' 14:19 "Another said, 'I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I must go try them out. Please have me excused.' 14:20 "Another said, 'I have married a wife, and therefore I can't come.' 14:21 "That servant came, and told his lord these things. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, 'Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in the poor, maimed, blind, and lame.' 14:22 "The servant said, 'Lord, it is done as you commanded, and there is still room.' 14:23 "The lord said to the servant, 'Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 14:24 For I tell you that none of those men who were invited will taste of my supper.'" 14:25 Now great multitudes were going with him. He turned and said to them, 14:26 "If anyone comes to me, and doesn't hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple. 14:27 Whoever doesn't bear his own cross, and come after me, can't be my disciple.

1Cor.1:21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom didn't know God, it was God's good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save those who believe. 1:22 For Jews ask for signs, Greeks seek after wisdom, 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified; a stumbling block to Jews, and foolishness to Greeks, 1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.
1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 1:26 For you see your calling, brothers, that not many are wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, and not many noble; 1:27 but God chose the foolish things of the world that he might put to shame those who are wise. God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong; 1:28 and God chose the lowly things of the world, and the things that are despised, and the things that are not, that he might bring to nothing the things that are:
1:29 that no flesh should boast before God. 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:
1:31 that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24}

completed: November, 18, 2016