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That They Should Believe a Lie!


2 Thessalonians 2:11 Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie.

Don't we just hate people that chose to believe a lie when all the facts shows they are wrong, and yet, they still defy with fallacious arguments the truth? Moreover, what of those who actions are anything but the truth of how they present themselves as, and tell others they are?

Such conduct baffles us, how can these person believe the lie, what is gained? Here we have the apostle Paul, under the power of God's Spirit, that is, not of his own originality, or will power telling us that some people would get to believing the “a lie” not many lies, but one specific lie that shockingly God would send them a working of error so they would believe the lie, while claiming to be in the truth! In others words, they think by their own power or will that nobody could make them believe a lie, and yet God says it not in their control as imagined?

Zechariah 10:2 For the teraphim have spoken vanity, and the diviners have seen a lie; and they have told false dreams. They comfort in vain. Therefore they go their way like sheep. They are oppressed, because there is no shepherd.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Now this thinking is not shocking to the fallen flesh which is surrounded by many lies in this life, too many to even try to sort through. For thousand's of year people have sought the truth through every form of education, science, research, religion, and yet the the earth is full of lies.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

2 Peter 1:21 For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke, being moved by the Holy Spirit.

Now with the introduction of the internet false information has parlayed a hundred fold, what are we to think, when the apostle Paul tells us they would believe one lie?

One Seed

James1:6 But let him ask in faith, without any doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, driven by the wind and tossed. 1:7 For let that man not think that he will receive anything from the Lord. 1:8 He is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

Lets go back in time, way back before any of us were conceived. There was a seed planted by a lie, the first lie to be specific, the first lie ever told in a world, and perhaps the universe where a lie had never been heard before! A lie that planted doubt, a seed if you will, that grew into a vast tree filling the whole earth blocking out the Sun pure light, causing many variation of shadows to fall upon mankind and every civilization they would build.

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

The pure light of truth was lost, and we will explain that statement in a minute. Mankind could see some light from the Sun, but not pure light. In fact, once in the darkness of the shadow of death from the looming tree none could take the direct light from the pure rays of the Sun without dying. The entire existence of the human race depended upon the fruit from this of the shadows of death.

Gen.3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any animal of the field which Yahweh God had made. He said to the woman, "Has God really said, 'You shall not eat of any tree of the garden?'" 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, "Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat,
3:3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 3:4 The serpent said to the woman, "You won't surely die, 3:5 for God knows that in the day you eat it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Jeremiah 17:10 I, Yahweh, search the mind, I try the heart, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.

Jeremiah 21:14 I will punish you according to the fruit of your doings, says Yahweh; and I will kindle a fire in her forest, and it shall devour all that is around her.

Hence, the propagation of the lie to each other, where truth became a lie, not by intention, but by lose of the pure light. In other words, personal contact with the light had been lost in darkness, death would ensue if human stood in the direct light, because of the planting of the first lie. Thus, they could tells stories of the two people that had personal contact with the light once upon a time, before the lie entered into the world. In fact, some wrote stories of the contact with light, so other could remember and experience the light by proxy, but no one person could go to the light and have what our first parents lost for all of us a personal one on one experience in the light.

John.1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son,{NU reads "God"} who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.

The fruit of sin we all eat from our conception from the tree of death brings fruit of death to all human's, all are dying under the looming branches of the tree of death. It is by no stretch of our imagination a corrupt tree which produces death in each one of us whom are forced to eat its fruit. Thus, it can be said with no maliciousness all human are a product of the first tree from the first lie, they themselves are liars. None of us speak truth all the time, not one is righteous. No! We all fall short of the glory of God who cannot lie, who is the pure light of truth.

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those whose sins weren't like Adam's disobedience, who is a foreshadowing of him who was to come.

Rom.3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Rom.3:13 "Their throat is an open tomb. With their tongues they have used deceit."{Psalm 5:9} "The poison of vipers is under their lips;"{Psalm 140:3} 3:14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness."{Psalm 10:7}

The Power of The Corrupt Tree

The power source that causes the life force of the corrupt tree to produce fruit is from the Father of the lie, Satan the Devil. He is a wicked powerful rebellious spirit son of God. Eve thought she was coming out from God's power by believing the lie. But the truth is, she came under the power of a wicked spirit son who took God's place and her husband; Satan then control her life by a lie, hence, death fruit.

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

This is why we can be certain when we are told by the same apostle that our fight is not with flesh and blood, but wicked spirit being in heavenly places we can know that rather human believe the truth or not, we are either being controlled by God, and/or wicked spirit being. There is no dwelling place in between under the tree of death, in the gray shadows caste upon the ground by its branches. That is a lie, we either eat from God's hand, and/or the wicked spirit force producing death.

2Cor.10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we don't wage war according to the flesh; 10:4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the throwing down of strongholds, 10:5 throwing down imaginations and every high thing that is exalted against the knowledge of God, and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ;

Ephesians 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

Context of Paul's Word

We have the context, the foundation of the lie Paul speak about in the book of Thessalonians. He stated they would believe a lie, the first lie, which caused them to leave the light; but who left the light?

What had come into the world, what light, and truth had these brothers and sisters seen, and/or experience at this writing? Christ, not one of the prophets of God prior to Christ was the “light”, of the world, and the truth of God, without darkness from the fruit from the corrupt tree. No lie could be found in the light, that is, Christ Jesus, but there are some factual points we must remember or we ourselves will get to believing the lie.

John 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.

John 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness hasn't overcome{The word translated "overcome" (katelaben) can also be translated "comprehended." It refers to getting a grip on an enemy to defeat him.} it.

John 1:7 The same came as a witness, that he might testify about the light, that all might believe through him.

John 1:8 He was not the light, but was sent that he might testify about the light.

1 John 3:6 Whoever remains in him doesn't sin. Whoever sins hasn't seen him, neither knows him.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.

Number one, 1.) The Father Jehovah was “in” the Son Christ Jesus which made him the light. Christ then was “in” the Father, that is, under his headship as a body member. In other words, the blood from our body does not change into poison without causing death to our body. We don't have two source of life in our body some good and some bad. If we have death in our blood we will die, if we have good blood, we have life in our body, and we will live. One blood is killing, and is opposed to life of the good blood as light is to darkness.

Jame.3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.

Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who can't lie, promised before time began;

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.


Which ever one wins will either feed all members of the body or kill them all! But there will not be a mixture of both, believing the lie, and calling it the life of the body.

Revelation 22:1 He showed me a{TR adds "pure"} river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

John 4:10 Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, 'Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

John 4:13 Jesus answered her, "Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again.

Jude 1:12 These are hidden rocky reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you, shepherds who without fear feed themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn leaves without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

Revelation 12:15 The serpent spewed water out of his mouth after the woman like a river, that he might cause her to be carried away by the stream.

Born Again

Planting corruption does not produce a new tree of life. Once again we cannot mix light into darkness and come up with the pure light that we must have to know the truth.


Christ came to give us the truth, now stop! We did not say he came to write down the truth and give it to those living under the tree of death, no!

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me.

Christ gave those that Paul speak to here his life. Second point, number 2.) When we say Christ is the truth we are saying wittingly or unwittingly that his life is truth because he is the light of God. Now stop, and think? Christ was “in” the truth, in the Father life, which is always light having no corruption of the lie. That is from death, from not telling the truth.

John 8:40 But now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God. Abraham didn't do this.

John 8:44 You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn't stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and its father.

God cannot lie, it is impossible for God to lie. He is not corrupted by any sin of wicked spirit force in heavenly places. That makes God, rather we like it or not, the only source of life in our universe. Anything less than contact with God life is death, there is no substitute life force, the rest, is the first lie Satan the Devil told to Eve.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

Jesus Becomes Incorruptible Light

Christ did not promenade his righteousness before men, he did not say: “I have a good heart that make me special, so I speak for God and you better listen to me.” In fact, Christ did not say he was the faithful and discreet slave of God while he was here on earth in his flesh.

Luke 18:19 Jesus asked him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good, except one--God.

1Cor. 4:1 So let a man think of us as Christ's servants, and stewards of God's mysteries. 4:2 Here, moreover, it is required of stewards, that they be found faithful.

1Cor.4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

Christ did what so few so called Christian's do to day, he did not boast in his flesh. He did not boast, in anything under the corrupt tree that Satan power is expressed through, by the lie.

Philp. 2:1 If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassion,
2:2 make my joy full, by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 2:3 doing nothing through rivalry or through conceit, but in humility, each counting others better than himself; 2:4 each of you not just looking to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others.
2:5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus,
2:6 who, existing in the form of God, didn't consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, 2:7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. 2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross.
2:9 Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name;

Christ was the light, because God was in him, God was in him because he was sinless, having no corruption of darkness found in all human being born of Adam. Christ could tells the truth of God, he could give us the love of God, not polluted by the darkness of man's evil hearts. That is not a put down to any human it is a fact, the truth of our condition born into not by our own will.

Jer. 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it? 17:10 I, Yahweh, search the mind, I try the heart, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.

Rom.3:12 They have all turned aside. They have together become unprofitable. There is no one who does good, no, not, so much as one."{Psalms 14:1-3; 53:1-3; Ecclesiastes 7:20}

Christ unlike us, would accept no flattery, adulation by the flesh, that is, saying men in the fallen flesh having sin could judge if Christ was good or bad? How could sin, and corruption reward life, or boast in it? When the very nature of our dying blood opposes the light? If we boast in flesh we are in darkness, if we take the glory of men as telling us we are good and righteous we are in darkness propagating the corruption of the death tree.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

2 Peter 2:19 promising them liberty, while they themselves are bondservants of corruption; for a man is brought into bondage by whoever overcomes him.

Christ stayed in the light making him the light to the world and did just as a body member on our own body does. Our finger does not seek glory, or think it is the light of the body, nor does it think it is the life force of the body. No! Christ in no way made himself equal to God, he did not glorify himself, or did he take as though he was an authority anything from God. He remained obedient onto death.

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

James 4:16 But now you glory in your boasting. All such boasting is evil.
God then glorified Christ, making him what? Into the exact representation of his very being, that is, not corruptible by any lies, and/or thoughts of death from corruption of the first lie.

Heb.1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds. 1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 1:4 having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have.

This is the context of Paul's words, how? These brothers and sisters had become the body of Christ, the same as Christ was in the body of God, light.

Matthew 5:14 You are the light of the world. A city located on a hill can't be hidden.

Matthew 5:15 Neither do you light a lamp, and put it under a measuring basket, but on a stand; and it shines to all who are in the house.

Matthew 5:16 Even so, let your light shine before men; that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 6:22 "The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is sound, your whole body will be full of light.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

All Things New

Christ took nothing of the old, the seed planted by wicked rebellious spirit son's of God, not one thing did he compromise mixing death into life calling it the pure waters of life. No! He told the truth, and died for it! God declared Christ faithful and true to all spirit son's of God in heaven and on earth. None are preeminent over Christ accept God himself. From the life of Christ would come righteousness, and life, he would be the source of life for all human dying under the corrupt tree of Satan the Father of the lie.

1Cor.1:28 and God chose the lowly things of the world, and the things that are despised, and the things that are not, that he might bring to nothing the things that are: 1:29 that no flesh should boast before God.
1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1:31 that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24}

2 Corinthians 5:21 For him who knew no sin he made to be sin on our behalf; so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Christ is given life, and bring death to nothing by making all things new, that is, having no leaven of sin. Unlike the unrighteous source of life to our earth, Satan the Devil who has taken all things of God mixing it into death calling it the light, Christ defeated the lie, by not stealing one bit of glory from his Father for his own glory.

John 10:38 But if I do them, though you don't believe me, believe the works; that you may know and believe that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

John 8:54 Jesus answered, "If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is our God.

Christ stay completely under his headship, given all glory for life and eternal truth to the Father. Christ understood a simple truth we all fail to understand, and what is that truth?

That a corrupt tree “cannot” produce good fruit, it cannot! With that thought Christ was not mislead into falsehoods of believing “a lie”! For “a lie” corrupted the whole loaf of unleavened bread Adam and Eve were created new in. Hence, feeding the world death, and corruption. There was no light or life in anything else upon earth but God.

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

Matthew 13:33 He spoke another parable to them. "The Kingdom of Heaven is like yeast, which a woman took, and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of meal, until it was all leavened."

1Cor.3:1 Brothers, I couldn't speak to you as to spiritual, but as to fleshly, as to babies in Christ.
3:2 I fed you with milk, not with meat; for you weren't yet ready. Indeed, not even now are you ready,
3:3 for you are still fleshly. For insofar as there is jealousy, strife, and factions among you, aren't you fleshly, and don't you walk in the ways of men? 3:4 For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," aren't you fleshly? 3:5 Who then is Apollos, and who is Paul, but servants through whom you believed; and each as the Lord gave to him? 3:6 I planted. Apollos watered. But God gave the increase. 3:7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.
3:8 Now he who plants and he who waters are the same, but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

These brothers and sisters Paul spoke to here through Christ Paul's headship were made new by the life of Christ, born again out of corruption and death into the wonderful light of God, Christ Jesus. They had tasted the bread of life, having no corruption of sin, and they have been made sinless, so they could be given the righteousness of the body they were a member in, Christ Jesus.

Hebrews 6:5 and tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the age to come,

1 Peter 2:3 if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious:

Philippians 3:10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death;

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

Would they believe a lie, or remember the light in them by the life of Christ the light?

The Lie of False Religion

The life force behind the lie is Satan, he controls and bless his own. The whole world is under the “power” of Satan the Devil and wicked spirit forces. Wicked spirit force maintain control through giving power to the fallen flesh, it is that simple, if you believe God's word found in our bibles.

Matt.7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

In context to Christ discussion in Matt.7: he showed the power coming from a corrupt tree through wicked spirit forces:

Matt.7:20 Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.
7:21 Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
7:22 Many will tell me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?' 7:23 Then I will tell them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.'

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light. (angel of light in context is being righteous in our fallen flesh which is a lie these men looked and made an righteous appearance in the flesh but promoted worship of the flesh.)

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Christ life source is truth and light, having no corruption from Satan tree at all. He annihilates the lie, where does the lie finds its power, in the fallen flesh of mankind. Where one spirit strengthen the flesh, the other Spirit bring it to nothing. False religion and/or worship empowers the flesh by giving it the right to speak for God as a god.

Simply put, in context of Paul's words, some where putting the power of flesh as the driver of the car in the spirit body of Christ. Giving power and authority to the flesh, the same power the Devil gave to it in the first lie, and some of those in Christ were now longing for that high recognition that only those under the big tree of unrighteousness of death could give them.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace.

They like Eve were deceived thinking God's righteousness and truth would come through the fallen flesh of mankind. Denying the fact they had to be put to death in their own corrupt flesh in Christ for the Spirit to adopt them into the sinless incorruptible body of Christ.

Hebrews 9:15 For this reason he is the mediator of a new covenant, since a death has occurred for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first covenant, that those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 2:14 Since then the children have shared in flesh and blood, he also himself in like manner partook of the same, that through death he might bring to nothing him who had the power of death, that is, the devil.

Philippians 3:10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death;

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.


They were becoming thieves for the glory of Christ. his belongings entrusted to them by Christ their headship. They did not want to wait in humiliation of the flesh, as Christ himself had done, but rather get glory from men in being important in Christ.

Acts 8:33 In his humiliation, his judgment was taken away. Who will declare His generation? For his life is taken from the earth."{Isaiah 53:7,8}

Matthew 25:24 "He also who had received the one talent came and said, 'Lord, I knew you that you are a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you did not scatter.

Matthew 25:25 I was afraid, and went away and hid your talent in the earth. Behold, you have what is yours.'

Matthew 25:28 Take away therefore the talent from him, and give it to him who has the ten talents.

If they went back to the fallen flesh than all they could believe was more lies, for those of the flesh cannot know God. If they wanted to fool themselves to the very truth in them (Christ life) that destroyed the lie of the flesh, into believing good and evil was on Christ that a corrupt tree could produce good fruit than the blood of Christ could not feed them anymore life, that is, the Spirit of God the life force of Christ body members.

John.15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
15:6 If a man doesn't remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

The drunkenness and blindness they accepted from the love of the flesh did not make the corrupt tree righteous or the truth. Just because they dulled their sense on strong drink of false religion and celebrate in a false joy did not change the fruit upon the tree of the first lie. In fact, so strong would be the drink that they would get to believing the lie, and loving it, as they did their own fallen flesh, in which the same apostle stated had nothing good dwelling in it for God or Christ service.

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me, and doesn't hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple.

Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. You aren't able to serve God and mammon{"Mammon" refers to riches or a false god of wealth.}."

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

They would speak from their own originality as God's authority upon earth as the temple of God, just as Satan the Devil had deceived Eve into. The flesh would greedily snatch upon anything, and all spiritual matters collecting those thoughts and scrolls into religious library placing men in the flesh as angels of light over them making them the authority on earth of Christ belongings. Yes, burying Christ belonging into a fleshly religious institution so they could be distributed to the so called body of Christ which is nothing more than the body of the evil tree having corrupt fruit that they could no longer see. Burying the suffering in Christ into position of power and glory for men to give praised to as Satan so wanted in the first place, for him to be the author of all life!

1 Corinthians 15:43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power.

1 Corinthians 2:8 which none of the rulers of this world has known. For had they known it, they wouldn't have crucified the Lord of glory.

John 8:50 But I don't seek my own glory. There is one who seeks and judges.

John 7:18 He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory, but he who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
John 5:41 I don't receive glory from men.

John 5:44 How can you believe, who receive glory from one another, and you don't seek the glory that comes from the only God?

Trading Christ righteousness, and glory for men position in high place over the glory of God that Christ sought and died faithful for, denying the very truth of Christ who killed the power of the flesh, while these men sought to make it great.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

1 Corinthians 6:16 Or don't you know that he who is joined to a prostitute is one body? For, "The two," says he, "will become one flesh."{Genesis 2:24}

They would lose the pure light of Christ for written documents idols of the flesh treasured them as the power of Christ. They would rather have a relationship with written document than have the life of Christ inscribed upon their hearts. Why? Because suffering in the flesh is hard, it does not glorify our needs and wants on earth, it mean we like Christ must suffer being reject in humiliation to gain the approval of our Father who is no part of this world. We would have to be obedient to our head giving him the glory, not the finger that longs for what Satan wanted, cause the first lie.

2 Corinthians 3:3 being revealed that you are a letter of Christ, served by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tablets of stone, but in tablets that are hearts of flesh.

2 Corinthians 4:11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus may be revealed in our mortal flesh.

2Cor. 10:17 But "he who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24} 10:18 For it isn't he who commends himself who is approved, but whom the Lord commends.

2Cor.11:18 Seeing that many boast after the flesh, I will also boast. 11:19 For you bear with the foolish gladly, being wise.
11:20 For you bear with a man, if he brings you into bondage, if he devours you, if he takes you captive, if he exalts himself, if he strikes you on the face.

The lie says none of that is true we can have it all because we are good in our flesh. That is the context of Paul words in Thessalonians quote above for this document. It is the context of the flesh lusting and giving glory to the research of ancient scrolls as giving us the truth.

John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about me.

2 Timothy 3:7 always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new man, who is being renewed in knowledge after the image of his Creator,

Ephesians 3:19 and to know Christ's love which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

2 Corinthians 4:6 seeing it is God who said, "Light will shine out of darkness,"{Genesis 1:3} who has shone in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but don't have love, I am nothing.

1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will be done away with. Where there are various languages, they will cease. Where there is knowledge, it will be done away with.

When man seeks glory in his, or her flesh, and judges what they think is good or bad, they are eating the same old fruit. Christ did not approval himself in the least thing, he did not say will done good and faithful slave. He did not idolize any flesh, not even of the old prophets.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

God spoke, he said, what are flesh is, and where is comes from. Satan has for thousand's of years called God a liar, and his son. Satan offered Christ the power of his kingdom over this world, by appealing to pride of flesh. He wanted Christ to think how good of son he was, how wonderful he was, and how he could bring good to the human race from a corrupt tree.

Ecclesiastes 1:15 That which is crooked can't be made straight; and that which is lacking can't be counted.

Proverbs 5:6 She gives no thought to the way of life. Her ways are crooked, and she doesn't know it.

Philippians 2:15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you are seen as lights in the world.


But the truth is God, and Christ in God became our truth in every action and word. The real truth would not be restored by the fallen flesh, not by the old corruption that is passing away, no! The truth of the truth it was never lost! It has always been, and will always be in a life that cannot lie, or died, but are we humble enough to believe Christ or do we believe the finger that says what truth is for us?

1 John 2:20 You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.{Or, "know what is true." Or, "know all things."}

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

Do we believe the strong desires of the flesh that has wanted to fix this world with a zeal, as a substitutes for God? Do we look through the corrupt trees fruit to see if we can find one piece that taste as good as Christ the spirit life we eat from so we can use the power of corruption to bring about Christ kingdom on earth through mankind good works?

Daniel 2:45 Because you saw that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God has made known to the king what shall happen hereafter: and the dream is certain, and its interpretation sure.

Daniel.2:44 In the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

That is the question has our kingdom been shaken, if we are in the flesh, every day we are shaken, but if we are in Christ never. Do we love the truth so much that we stop attributing our being shaken as Christ the spirit person that cannot be shaken? Do we get tried of the constant lies of our flesh trying to justify the good it or what it is doing or has done? Do we get tried of being the sale-salesman of fleshes good, trying to look good in our flesh for acceptance, so others believe we are in Christ as his body members?

Isa.53:1 Who has believed our message? To whom has the arm of Yahweh been revealed? 53:2 For he grew up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of dry ground. He has no form nor comeliness. When we see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 53:3 He was despised, and rejected by men; a man of suffering, and acquainted with disease. He was despised as one from whom men hide their face; and we didn't respect him. 53:4 Surely he has borne our sickness, and carried our suffering; yet we considered him plagued, struck by God, and afflicted.

Do we wear out in our flesh teaching that we are responsible for restoring truth on this earth because we profess being anointed by God in Christ? Do understand we are trying to drive a car that not ours, nor was it given to us so we may posses it like dogs do their territory in our flesh is an that such thinking is an accident in progress? Do we understand that all flesh comes to nothing in Christ that it is his God assigned job to bring the works of the Devil and death to nothing?

Revelation 14:6 I saw an angel flying in mid heaven, having an eternal Good News to proclaim to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation, tribe, language, and people.

Ephesians 4:15 but speaking truth in love, we may grow up in all things into him, who is the head, Christ;

Revelation 3:13 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies.

Do we give credit to the truth, that is, the glorified Christ as our truth, and teacher waiting on his gifts to his body for the glory of our Father? Do we understand begging for truth is not being in the truth in the light?

2 Timothy 1:10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who abolished death, and brought life and immortality to light through the Good News.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellence of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Living in a kingdom that is constantly shaken by the fear of our flesh is gaining more truth by study, of getting the truth for protection against falsely called knowledge that truth is not in Christ at all. Fear is not in Christ or his Father it is in us, and tells us we are in our flesh that constantly justifies the fleshes fears as OK and good, and that we are doing something for the truth.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

2 Timothy 1:7 For God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.

Do we understand we were born again not by fears of getting enough truth and knowledge to be born again, and/or to be saved by our efforts in removing our sins by knowledge? Do we understand that we did nothing in our flesh to be born again, into the truth, Christ Jesus? Do we trust Christ? Now stop our lying flesh, do we trust he actually is charge of his body member as our own head or are we more consumed with our fleshly body become safe and comforted by false words from false religion?

Luke 21:26 men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world: for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Luke 12:5 But I will warn you whom you should fear. Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna.{or, Hell} Yes, I tell you, fear him.

Do you see why we must suffer in our flesh, so we can separated what is Spirit from the lie, our flesh, and be perfect in faith? None of us in our flesh believes that our corrupt tree, or that of others can bear only corrupt fruit, we just cannot, no matter how much we lie about it.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind; for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin;

That is why we must be made new, born new from above to be saved completely out of the lie below. It is Christ effort in us, because of the Spirit that conquerors this world. It is our suffering in our flesh, having the witness of the Spirit that we come to understand the Spirit is the truth, not us, not our good motives, not any effort or anything else found in our flesh. That real salvation from the tree of life comes from one name under the Sun, and no other, that we are totally dependent upon the life force of the tree of Christ to produce fruit free of corruption. Moreover, those are treasure we don't approval or disapprove of.

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

1 Cor.4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self. 4:4 For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord.
4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

Credit is given in Christ by the Father, in a new name written in heaven despite us. Credit on earth comes from the flesh, in its boasting and blowing it own trumpet like false religion to sell the truth for gaining merit and/or proof that false religion is righteousness. Any righteousness outside of Christ, God's approval place of his own righteousness is false righteousness that leads us back into death, having the fruit of death from a corrupt tree.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

If we pursue our goodness, once in Christ we will get to believing the lie, God will hand us over to Satan for the destruction of our flesh so the truth of what is really in our flesh become light; there in the power of the flesh will be found great anguish, gnashing of teeth, and weeping because there is nothing good in our sinful flesh that is a god, nor is clean and holy as we might want to imagine of glorify on this earth for adulation of men. The flesh cannot get us out of that jail, and/or judgment of God until it is finished!

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

Revelation 21:9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls, who were loaded with the seven last plagues came, and he spoke with me, saying, "Come here. I will show you the wife, the Lamb's bride."

Revelation 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book.
Exodus 9:14 For this time I will send all my plagues against your heart, against your officials, and against your people; that you may know that there is none like me in all the earth.

Levitius 26:21 "'If you walk contrary to me, and won't listen to me, then I will bring seven times more plagues on you according to your sins.

Matthew 25:30 Throw out the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

1Cor.3:11 For no one can lay any other foundation than that which has been laid, which is Jesus Christ.
3:12 But if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, or stubble;
3:13 each man's work will be revealed. For the Day will declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself will test what sort of work each man's work is.
3:14 If any man's work remains which he built on it, he will receive a reward.
3:15 If any man's work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire.
3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?
3:17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for God's temple is holy, which you are.
3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone thinks that he is wise among you in this world, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.

Completed: January 09, 2017

by: Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus