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[b]We Don't Wage War According to The Flesh

2Cor.10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we don't wage war according to the flesh;
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What is Christianity if its not a war against the sins of our flesh? The entire structure of religion on earth is in fact a war with other flesh. That war may, or may not be physically killing each others, but it is a war to change the conduct of others people flesh.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

Religious people are trained in the ways of war by using their bibles to defeat the enemy those that would promote and go against the teaching of God for righteousness. The focus of that war is upon one thing, and one thing only our flesh, its rebellious state of sinning against God.

Micah.4:1 But in the latter days, it will happen that the mountain of Yahweh's temple will be established on the top of the mountains, and it will be exalted above the hills; and peoples will stream to it. 4:2 Many nations will go and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths." For out of Zion will go forth the law, and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem;
4:3 and he will judge between many peoples, and will decide concerning strong nations afar off. They will beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war any more.

But here Paul states a truth that we cannot just ignore in our wars against fleshly sins? He states we are not waging war in our flesh, or even against the flesh!

2Cor.10:3 For though we may be living in the flesh, we are not fighting after the way of the flesh. (Basic English Translation)

Facing Truth Not Flesh

Simply put, God is not fixing our flesh, God is not reforming our flesh, God is not making our flesh a better flesh! Sadly, all Christian's should know that basic information found in every bible in the world. It is the primary teaching of Christ himself, its why Christ came to earth and died for us.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

However, without exaggeration every tool in the tool box of religion arsenal is for fixing, reforming, and making the flesh better. When it wars it is fighting against the other guys flesh, it see nothing but the flesh and attacks the flesh is using the power of laws against the flesh to bring it into submission and jail its evil, wicked, ugly conduct that is unbecoming to a Christian's code of ethics.

Rom. 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace; 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Flesh Can't Please God

This extraordinary effort from all religion for two thousand's years has not stopped or fixed the flesh from sinning in one person. All the wrangling and fighting against the flesh has created instead a world wide empire of false religion based upon sin, yeast that has without doubt corrupted the truth of Christ, and his kingdom, and all that he has taught. The effort to reform the flesh into a better flesh has propagated a world wide field of weed Christian's that teaching feeds the fleshly spirit watering it in the ways of world.

Rom.8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Luke 13:21 It is like yeast, which a woman took and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of flour, until it was all leavened."

Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitudes away, and went into the house. His disciples came to him, saying, "Explain to us the parable of the darnel weeds of the field."

Matthew 13:38 the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the children of the Kingdom; and the darnel weeds are the children of the evil one.

So much has the veil of flesh blinded the eyes of religious followers that those attacking the flesh think they are doing a sacred work for God and Christ. Reproving the flesh, in making it stop doing some action, is their god and religion.

John.16:1 "These things have I spoken to you, so that you wouldn't be caused to stumble. 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogues. Yes, the time comes that whoever kills you will think that he offers service to God.

No Judgment in The Flesh

As mention Christ came and die in his flesh to take away the judgment of our flesh that is the reason God sent him to mankind. Christ did not come to judge our flesh, read your bibles!

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

The first step, the primary doctrine of Christ, his first teaching while under God's law was to finish the laws judgment, which law successfully proved, and did its perfectly, what is that job?
It was to condemn our flesh as irrformable, it proved none of us could every remove sin out of a corrupt yeast body born into sin. We would all have to die to stop sin, there was no other solution that stopped us from sinning, none!

Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be in bondage to sin.

Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

Christ was sent to us to die for our sins in our flesh, he did not come to give us a better more righteous flesh. No where in your bibles will you find that teachings. In fact, you will find nothing good dwells in our fallen flesh, not one thing. It cannot be fixed into a better flesh that pleases God. Our flesh must died, we must be made alive in spirit to please God without our flesh, which same flesh cannot please God.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Moreover, if your a honest bible student you will quickly notice that the judgment against sin, that is, the flesh was stated when Adam and Eve sinned against God, where God removed his life giving Spirit from both of them because of corruption, sin. The law of God given to Moses only reinforced God's judgment against sin, it personified it to shut every self-righteous person mouth that thought they could fix sin in humans by their own good efforts in applying God's law or for that matter any human laws created through humans born with sin.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Rom. 7:8 But sin, finding occasion through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of coveting. For apart from the law, sin is dead. 7:9 I was alive apart from the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
7:10 The commandment, which was for life, this I found to be for death; 7:11 for sin, finding occasion through the commandment, deceived me, and through it killed me.

A war against flesh the same flesh which had already been judged a sinner which cannot be reformed into a better sinner is pointless, it proved nothing, it is a work that has nothing to do with Christ today, a war Christ finished for us. Judging the flesh is false religion way of building a better world for itself. It is the same war that all flesh lives in the making others obey the rules in government, commerce and religion. It is a war found in every teaching of mankind rather religious or not. It is the nature of our fallen flesh to war with other flesh to change its immediate conduct by laws that jail unseemly conduct we don't like seeing in someone else flesh.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Those In Christ

First, the statement (those in Christ) which is throughout the Greeks Scriptures once Christ died in his flesh and was made alive in spirit, That is where Christian's are now in Christ, not in their flesh, but why? Without this simple statement understood we find ourselves in the flesh waging war with the flesh. We find ourselves in a pointless endeavor that changes no person into a less sinner or makes them presentable to God.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

In Christ, means that we have his life as our life, we are grafted into his life, by the death of our flesh, that is, God removes our judgment as if we died once for all times in Christ life. We have a new life, that is, Christ life in us, and we in him. Everything beyond this simple point is false religion, it is back to proving oneself righteous in their own life. It is back to doing the will of our flesh, its back to attacking others in their flesh with the uses of God's word the bible in try and erratic some sin in our brothers eye that God himself did not do, or Christ for that matter! God killed the whole flesh in the old man, not a sin in the old man, God is not judging the new because he is free from sin in Christ.

Philippians 1:11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

We have no flesh in God's sight, or in God's judgment, because God accepted the merit of his Son's perfect life to save us in the spirit. It is impossible to war in the flesh for any gain in the Spirit. The flesh adds nothing to God, or his Spirit, or to Christ, or to a brother or sister in Christ.

2 Peter 1:9 For he who lacks these things is blind, seeing only what is near, having forgotten the cleansing from his old sins.

1Cor.3:21 Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours, 3:22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come. All are yours, 3:23 and you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.

When Christian's focus all attention upon the sins of flesh they are not in Christ, its that simple. They are in the flesh doing the will of the flesh deceiving themselves by using God's laws, and or their bibles to make a more perfect flesh which is a lie! Those in Christ are not warring with the flesh in the illusion that somehow it will be reformed because they can brow beat it into not doing some sin their religion forbids. Nor do they believe they can change a weed into a new specie of wheat.

James 4:12 Only one is the lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge another?

Teaching Christ Righteousness

We are not righteous, which means, simple to be sinless according to God's righteous laws that is God's standard of righteousness not man's. Christ is righteous, when we are in Christ we have his righteousness in us, not that we gain righteous by obeying the law so we can prove we can save ourselves because once a sinner in the flesh the flesh is always a sinner and must die. We teach “nothing but the Christ”! No!
we teach truth that our being in Christ removes our sins, because our flesh is put too death, once for all times. We are not starting yet one more religion to make human flesh righteous. We are instead teaching the truth, which is the finish works of God found in Christ Jesus our life.

Romans 2:21 You therefore who teach another, don't you teach yourself? You who preach that a man shouldn't steal, do you steal?

1 Corinthians 4:17 Because of this I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful child in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways which are in Christ, even as I teach everywhere in every assembly.

Hebrews 5:12 For when by reason of the time you ought to be teachers, you again need to have someone teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the oracles of God. You have come to need milk, and not solid food.

1Cor.1:3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1:4 I always thank my God concerning you, for the grace of God which was given you in Christ Jesus;
1:5 that in everything you were enriched in him, in all speech and all knowledge;
1:6 even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
1:7 so that you come behind in no gift; waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:8 who will also confirm you until the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1:9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into the fellowship of his Son, Jesus Christ, our Lord. 1:10 Now I beg you, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} through the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfected together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

There is no secondary sub category that we can teach or send someone to that will fix the problem of sin, but death to our flesh in Christ Jesus and being made alive in him, and us being given his righteousness so we can please God, not in our flesh, but in Spirit and truth.

1 Corinthians 3:21 Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours,

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

If we are in Christ, we are in Spirit, having no flesh, in God's sight so we cannot wage war in the flesh.

Waging War in Flesh

So what are the wars of the flesh, lets not be coy here the bible is clear on the subject. The question all of us need to answer is does the Spirit have those wars? Yes, or no? No! Spirit does not have sinful flesh, or for that matter the desires of our flesh which is the reason we war in the flesh with others. None, not any of those desires of sinful flesh in found in Christ or God, they are ours and if we try to make them righteous we are lying and bragging against the truth of the Spirit.

James 3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?
3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic.
3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.
3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Subsequently, our battles are evil to God they are not his, nor are they his works they are from a corrupt tree that cannot produce good fruit. That tree must die, it must be grafted into a tree that cannot produce works of our flesh for us to be save in.

Rom.Romans 11:16 If the first fruit is holy, so is the lump. If the root is holy, so are the branches. 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them, and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree; 11:18 don't boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you.

The Power of the Spirit

We are saved in the power of Christ Jesus indestructible life, not the power of the flesh, or the power of the laws used to condemn the flesh as a sinner.

Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

The power of life is not death, or the judgment of death, it is the power of life which God is. It is by being in the force of life, the tree that gives us life. The rest is the wars of death found in everyone one of us born under sin. Nothing from death will produce life. Its that simple. God produce life without sin, sin, is corruption, sin cannot give us life. The power of corruption is death not life. Death is found in judgment of all sin that is a truth we cannot disapprove.

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

Romans 14:10 But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God didn't appoint us to wrath, but to the obtaining of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

When we look at death in our brothers eye we measure out death too ourselves, we send them into death back to sins laws thinking righteousness comes from dead law written on paper back to the judgment completed and proven in Christ. However those of flesh will protest mightily!

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one.

Romans 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil. Respect what is honorable in the sight of all men.

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. 13:9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet,"{TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"}{Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21} and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}

But they do not have the power of Christ righteous indestructible life indwelling them or they would not discredit it as weak against sin. In other words, they have made themselves the power against sin by the uses of applying the commandment to others. They wage war in the flesh, not in the Spirit of Christ life. They fear death, they have a spirit of cowardice thinking Christ is weak, nonexistence so they walk by sight and not the Spirit of God directing them in Christ their headship.

They set up another false religion because they have no faith in Christ at all. They have faith in the power of their religion or their teachings to judge and remove sin from others, but not in Christ.

1 Peter 1:5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

2 Timothy 3:5 holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof. Turn away from these, also.

Ephesians 3:16 that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, that you may be strengthened with power through his Spirit in the inward man;

Ephesians 3:20 Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,

Philippians 3:10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death;

Colossians 1:11 strengthened with all power, according to the might of his glory, for all endurance and perseverance with joy;

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

They refuse the undeserved kindness of the gift of God's love to them and impute evil to God. They stand in their own life and its power but not in Christ the finish works of God. No man on earth can remove sin or corruption from themselves or their teaching. God's truth, and Spirit is found in one person Christ Jesus above, its his life and the power of that life that are the works of God, and the truth of God. No man restores the truth to this earth that man teaching such, is a liar and thief. No man can save himself or anyone else by the power of anything less than the life of Christ.

2 Peter 1:3 seeing that his divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and virtue;

2 Peter 1:16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables, when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Jude 1:25 to God our Savior, who alone is wise, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen.

Many false prophets have gone forth into this world, but they all have one common teaching, do you know what that teaching is? It is that a corrupt tree can produce good fruit. Yes, they teach corruption can produce the works the fruit of God. In other words, by their teaching, new light, their own efforts they can produce the works of Christ indestructible life in others.

Matt.7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.
7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.
7:19 Every tree that doesn't grow good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire.
7:20 Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.

John15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

The bible God's words calls them a liar, God does not share his glory with corruption calling it good, or his works. God has given us a free gift undeserved if we mock that gift by putting our own effort as the way into life, we are doing no more than what Satan the Father of the lie did in Eden. If we boast in our flesh, we are a liar in God's eyes. If we think there is any salvation under the Sun by Christ Jesus we are mislead and we are misleading others. If we send them to anything less out of fear we have no faith in Christ unshakable Kingdom. If we think false shepherds are better than Christ and the power of Holy Spirit we are like the unfaithful Israelites that did not enter into God's promise land in resting from their own works.

1 Corinthians 2:4 My speech and my preaching were not in persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,

1 Corinthians 2:5 that your faith wouldn't stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

Jude 1:3 Beloved, while I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I was constrained to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to always give thanks to God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief in the truth;

Philippians 1:28 and in nothing frightened by the adversaries, which is for them a proof of destruction, but to you of salvation, and that from God.

Acts 4:12 There is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved!"

Eph.6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Completed: 03-01-2017

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