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Kingdom Delayed

Hebrews 12:28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can't be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe.

With hundreds, yes, thousand's of end time prediction whirling around since Christ was on earth, one must wonder has God's Kingdom delayed? Moreover, none, not one of those prophecy has proven true! Yet, anyone denying them or teaching against them were label a mocker denying the Christ coming. One must ask, perhaps the expounder of the prophecy relentlessly has themselves become the mocker when the prophecy fails?

Proverbs 22:10 Drive out the mocker, and strife will go out; yes, quarrels and insults will stop.

Proverbs 9:7 He who corrects a mocker invites insult. He who reproves a wicked man invites abuse.

But what if there a simple reason the kingdom has delayed for billion on earth since Christ time? What if the kingdom is ruling, and has been ruling since Christ received glory and honor from his Father upon his resurrection, but very few have received that kingdom that cannot be shaken. What if all those that are on the wide road are looking to future to dates for their salvation, to men interpreting bible prophecy from their own originality?

1Pet.1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy became our father again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1:4 to an incorruptible and undefiled inheritance that doesn't fade away, reserved in Heaven for you,
1:5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1:6 Wherein you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been put to grief in various trials.

Kingdom of God

Is the kingdom of God about the salvation of our flesh, simple question? Is it about our flesh finding a certain date in our bibles then teaching that date with conviction and zeal? Furthermore, did all those at Christ time receive a kingdom that could not be shaken by prophecy regarding the salvation of their flesh?

Luke 17:21 neither will they say, 'Look, here!' or, 'Look, there!' for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you."

Acts 14:22 confirming the souls of the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that through many afflictions we must enter into the Kingdom of God.

Romans 14:17 for the Kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 4:20 For the Kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

Was that Christ point when saying those that put faith in him had salvation then? Was Christ lying to his listeners, when he really meant after you unlock the truth from bible prophecy you have eternal life (salvation, meaning saved from death), and if you do not unlock it, then your not mind and you are mocking me?

1 John 5:20 We know that the Son of God has come, and has given us an understanding, that we know him who is true, and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

1 John 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

God's kingdom does not inherit corruption, yes, that is a basic truth, how then can there be salvation of our sinful flesh, which is corruption to God's kingdom? Have we been taught correctly, because not one prophecy regarding the saving of flesh through the end of the world has came true? Do we honestly understand the flesh and blood cannot know God, that we are given the Spirit of God to understand the things of God, in Spirit and truth. Have we honestly grasp that yet, or is it mere words to us, we repeat from our flesh think that is the same Spirit the apostles of Christ received from Christ Kingdom when he was made alive in the Spirit and sent the Spirit into the hearts of the apostles?

Jude 1:20 But you, beloved, keep building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit.

1 John 4:6 We are of God. He who knows God listens to us. He who is not of God doesn't listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1 John 4:13 By this we know that we remain in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.

1 John 5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Reality Our Christ

What is the reality of Christ? Christ is the kingdom of God, not a building, a prophecy, not a bible, not a teaching, Christ is our reality do we understand how Christ is our reality? Christ gave his followers something that not one of the prophets had, not one king, not even Daniel who is so often eluded to regarding prophecy of the coming of Christ kingdom.

2 Peter 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation.

2 Peter 1:21 For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke, being moved by the Holy Spirit.

1Pet.1:10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets sought and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you,
1:11 searching for who or what kind of time the Spirit of Christ, which was in them, pointed to, when he predicted the sufferings of Christ, and the glories that would follow them.
1:12 To them it was revealed, that not to themselves, but to you, they ministered these things, which now have been announced to you through those who preached the Good News to you by the Holy Spirit sent out from heaven; which things angels desire to look into.

Christ gave his follower the kingdom because unlike all of God's people before Christ who did not have Christ eternal incorruptible unshakable life indwelling them, hence, reality, the Kingdom! They only had a picture, a profile, a shadow of the kingdom the Christ gave his disciples, but Christ disciples had reality of all truth by them being part of him that is right, part of the kingdom that is not shakable, and is eternal, yes, they had been given eternal life then not future as so many cling to prophecy for eternal life, yet future, just as the Jews stayed in when missing the Christ until this day!

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him who raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

1 Corinthians 15:14 If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith also is in vain.

Ephesians 1:20 which he worked in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places,

Ephesians 2:6 and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

Colossians 3:1 If then you were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.

If one is not in reality, the Christ, then they are in unreality searching for the light, and/or they have the light, nothing is greater then the light Christian's obtain to, the Christ, he is our life, not yet future as some given date. We are alive in Christ, he alive in us.

Ephesians 2:1 You were made alive when you were dead in transgressions and sins,

Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved).

Romans 8:10 If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

How does one search for a place they live in, how does one hope in a place that is reality to them? How can we be shaken by a prediction of Christ kingdom coming when we have received the kingdom at our anointing?

2 Thessalonians 2:2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come.

Hebrews 12:28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can't be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe,

Revelation 6:13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Faith!

What is required to receive the unshakable life of Christ, God's kingdom? A fear we are not in salvation? A fear we are not doing enough in works, or faith in Christ as God's unshakable kingdom that we have been raised up into, seated with Christ while in our tent of flesh? Has our kingdom delayed that is not an endorsement of truth, or a bible teaching for those whom have eternal life, the light, the unshakable kingdom by faith.

Matthew 24:48 But if that evil servant should say in his heart, 'My lord is delaying his coming,'
1Cor.3:21 Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours,
3:22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come. All are yours,
3:23 and you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.

Do we believe God is handing his children a serpent, or he is tricking us like Eve who believed God was withholding knowledge from her of good and evil, is that where we are at? Did Eve think she needed to go out of paradise of God, as if she placed herself in it by some supreme knowledge to find the truth of God that her and her husband lived in daily?

James.1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Matt. 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened for you.
7:8 For everyone who asks receives. He who seeks finds. To him who knocks it will be opened.
7:9 Or who is there among you, who, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?
7:10 Or if he asks for a fish, who will give him a serpent?
7:11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

The fundamental question is there salvation in our flesh, should we go out of Christ in Spirit and truth as our life to find another salvation? Is everyone flesh uncomfortable on earth because of all the problems of evil? Yes! But that does not change the truth, who is Christ, who is unshakable. No! That changes us in our flesh which is very shakable and unpredictable.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

Matthew 24:26 If therefore they tell you, 'Behold, he is in the wilderness,' don't go out; 'Behold, he is in the inner chambers,' don't believe it.

There is no salvation in our sinful flesh, none, not an ounce, not one little thing can save us in our flesh, no matter how hard we try to please God, no, not one corrupt things can received the Kingdom that cannot be shaken.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

Corruption does not inherit incorruption let that sink into a reality, the Christ. Corruption enter into our world at sin, and since those prophets, and kings, and who ever else died in their corruption of sin, unless by their faith they believed in something bigger than self-salvation by personal knowledge works, attendance, applying the law as a shrub brush to wash away sin. Nothing, not one thing, but God giving them salvation by his gift of love saved them!

Hebrews 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded of better things for you, and things that accompany salvation, even though we speak like this.

1 Peter 1:9 receiving the result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
Revelation 12:10 I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now is come the salvation, the power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ; for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them before our God day and night.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to always give thanks to God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief in the truth;

1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God didn't appoint us to wrath, but to the obtaining of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1:13 in whom you also, having heard the word of the truth, the Good News of your salvation,--in whom, having also believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Good News of Christ, for it is the power of God for salvation for everyone who believes; for the Jew first, and also for the Greek.

Acts 4:12 There is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved!"

It is a lack of faith in Christ that causes us trouble in our unrighteous flesh which should be dead in Christ life. It is a lack of faith in Christ that all troubles start and finish for Christian's, don't be fooled. If someone teaches that God's children are mocking Christ for putting completed faith in him alone and not being shaken by a prophecy then that person is in the fears of their own flesh, not the Christ.

Philippians 1:28 and in nothing frightened by the adversaries, which is for them a proof of destruction, but to you of salvation, and that from God.

There is no unreality in Christ waiting for future persecution yet to come. Those in Christ are the center piece of God's kingdom representatives and the center of attack by Satan the Devil they are not comfortable in their flesh, they are suffering in their flesh as Christ did in his. They suffer to have faith, trust, while in their corrupted flesh, and not be mislead by every form of prophecy Satan has tossed at them making them believe the lie, what lie? Well, the first lie? That salvation is found outside of God, and God is evil withholding truth from us that we don't have life in Christ.

Mark 13:22 For there will arise false christs and false prophets, and will show signs and wonders, that they may lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.

Mark 13:27 Then he will send out his angels, and will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the sky.

Luke 18:7 Won't God avenge his chosen ones, who are crying out to him day and night, and yet he exercises patience with them?

Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, a heart of compassion, kindness, lowliness, humility, and perseverance;

Matthew 24:22 Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened.