Jehovah's Witnesses Straight Talk - Forum/Blog

Heb.5:7 He, in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and petitions with strong crying and tears to him who was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear,
5:8 though he was a Son, yet learned obedience by the things which he suffered.

How can death not be an enemy if we are life? The spirit in us fight to stay alive. It overcomes many problems even diseases that would rob us of life. But here the writer of Hebrews speaks of more, more then we can possibly know, Christ being anointed, which means, God's own incorruptible life was in Christ a life that could not die, that could not be corrupted by sin or death.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Does one think or imagine that being found in such circumstance that it would not cause a violent war with righteousness against evil of sin and death? Yes, none of those inheriting God's kingdom can enter into it without this violence, why? Because all those of God's kingdom must be born again, not by human power “will” but by the power of incorruptible life of Christ Jesus. The eternal life of God and Christ are violently opposed by the death found in our flesh, it is an enemy.

Matthew 11:12 From the days of John the Baptizer until now, the Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.{or, plunder it.}

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

If death is in us then it is in a constant state of lusting against the incorruptible life of Christ indwelling us, is it not? This is the microcosm of the entire universe being played out daily in us, as it was in Christ. The power of incorruptible life conquering death, in every cell of death. Let us not be fooled here, what started death? One lie, a thought against the truth of life. That death spread like yeast into every fiber of mankind thinking corrupting us into a state of darkness so one could not even see the light of God.

2 Corinthians 2:16 to the one a stench from death to death; to the other a sweet aroma from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things?

John 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness hasn't overcome{The word translated "overcome" (katelaben) can also be translated "comprehended." It refers to getting a grip on an enemy to defeat him.} it.

Talking from a physical stand point now, there an old saying; that whatever doesn't kills us will make us stronger. Yes, even in our physical life we conquer things that will harm us and kill us, giving us a pretty good education by the end of a long life how to avoid evil in our world. But none of us have gained an incorruptible spirit yet!

Rom. 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

When one is anointed as Christ was in the days of his flesh a war starts because in Christ case, our pattern, he was made into the “likeness of sin” Not his own sin, because he was the perfect unblemished lamb of God hand picked as best of Jehovah's God's flock to sacrifice for our sins. Thus, he suffered in death, all that is of the flesh; our own fallen flesh is death, it is corruption, and nothing good dwells in it which is against the incorruptible life of God, it is darkness, it is nothing of God's personality.

Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

Now which should be obvious, a war, a fire storm, a baptism of fire that takes peace away from us, in the flesh started. The spirit of Christ incorruptible spirit is the lye of a laundryman it must clean up the threshing floor of chafe from the wheat. It must consume death so life can consume us completely. This is the war, the microcosm that was started two thousand years ago at Christ anointing, it has spread into his own body members the house of God, under judgment that when completed in the suffering of death and life frees the entire creation of God.

Luke 3:16 John answered them all, "I indeed baptize you with water, but he comes who is mightier than I, the latchet of whose sandals I am not worthy to loosen. He will baptize you in the Holy Spirit and fire.

Luke 3:17 whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his threshing floor, and will gather the wheat into his barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

Luke 12:49 "I came to throw fire on the earth. I wish it were already kindled.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God. If it begins first with us, what will happen to those who don't obey the Good News of God?

Physically we undergo death each day a similarly war of our physical life trying as it does to hang on to this life, but it does so through the power of our own will, in which so many confuse with, and can't understand the war of flesh against the spirit of Christ life indwelling us? There is a vast difference and we must understand that difference if we are anointed by the will of God's power, and not by our own will, or that of wicked spirit force. Yes, we can be anointed by the power from our flesh through knowledge of the bible, but we cannot be anointed by God's power that way.

John 3:7 Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born anew.'

John 3:8 The wind{The same Greek word (pneuma) means wind, breath, and spirit.} blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but don't know where it comes from and where it is going. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

The power of life and death Christ under went is a miraculous process by faith, not by the power found in his flesh. Christ was a sheep being lead to the slaughter, not by the power of his fleshly life, or he could have prevent his slaughter by the power of his fleshly life. Christ gave over his power his will to God's power for God's will to save him and us. Those anointed by the power of God's Spirit, having Christ indwell them are going through the same process because they are the body of Christ.

1Pet.2:21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving you{TR reads "us" instead of "you"} an example, that you should follow his steps, 2:22 who did not sin, "neither was deceit found in his mouth."{Isaiah 53:9} 2:23 Who, when he was cursed, didn't curse back. When he suffered, didn't threaten, but committed himself to him who judges righteously; 2:24 who his own self bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live to righteousness; by whose stripes you were healed.
2:25 For you were going astray like sheep; but now have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer{"Overseer" is from the Greek episkopon, which can mean overseer, curator, guardian, or superintendent.} of your souls.

They are being lead by the power of flesh into death, and through faith in the power of Christ indestructible life they are raised into his life by the will of Christ which conquers death in them. This process is daily, it is death at work in us, but also the life of Christ that sets creation from from its corruption into every fiber Satan system of things which has been created through the corrupt mind of sin.

Rom. 8:21 that the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of decay into the liberty of the glory of the children of God.
8:22 For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.
8:23 Not only so, but ourselves also, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for adoption, the redemption of our body.

Rom.8:36 Even as it is written, "For your sake we are killed all day long. We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter."{Psalm 44:22}
8:37 No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

God's children judgment of flesh is set aside for the complete destruction of death at work in all the world (For God's glory). This process perfects faith, not their flesh, or their will that was done away with at their anointing, put to death in Christ and/or their judgment would still be valid and enforced by God's righteous laws.

1 John 4:9 By this God's love was revealed in us, that God has sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.

James 4:15 For you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we will both live, and do this or that."

Hebrews 10:38 But the righteous will live by faith. If he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him."{Habakkuk 2:3-4}

2 Timothy 3:12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

Subsequently, this is where we find the weeds that the enemy of God over sowed into the field of God's planting to mock and steal this process. The weed class, under go a physical death as all that are dying from birth (the world), they transliterate that knowledge into what God's anointed going through which is a lie. It not even close, they make a public show of such suffering imagining that is the same pattern Christ went through it is not! What Christ suffered daily until he was murdered once for all time is the righteous war of God's incorruptible Spirit in him overcoming death completely from its corrupt thinking into every fiber of darkness ever created by the first lie.

2 Corinthians 10:5 throwing down imaginations and every high thing that is exalted against the knowledge of God, and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ;

Hebrews 3:6 but Christ is faithful as a Son over his house; whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the glorying of our hope firm to the end.

The world could not know or understand what the Spirit was working out in Christ, let none us be fooled neither does the world know us, those having the Spirit of and incorruptible life indwelling us. That working we must suffer in by faith, not a faith from the power of our own will, but a faith found only in the body we are indwelt with Christ Jesus, let remember, please, there can be no boasting in our flesh, it is dead and finished!

2 Corinthians 5:4 For indeed we who are in this tent do groan, being burdened; not that we desire to be unclothed, but that we desire to be clothed, that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.

2 Corinthians 4:11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus may be revealed in our mortal flesh. 4:12 So then death works in us, but life in you.

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

1 John 3:13 Don't be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.