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Judgment

Acts 17:31 because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; of which he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead."

What are we to think when we read of God's judgments, and his coming judgments through the Christ, as our king, and judge? We have the history of Christianity of its horrific acts of judgment done by those in power at their time. In fact, its hard for us to imagine that Christian's could get so evil and render such demonic judgments in the name of God?

Matthew 12:36 I tell you that every idle word that men speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.

However, none are innocent among mankind when looking at the judgments of governments, commerce, and even within the family; the terrible sometimes cruel judgments we humans render upon each other in the name of God's righteousness! Could there be any more confusion regarding the judgments of God? Think about it? These are people who are normally just trying to do what is right/righteous by rendering God's judgment, but the question is how does such judgments get so far off track? Do we think for one moment that terrorist killing innocent lives aren't doing so in the name of God's righteousness, rather that righteousness is found in religion, government, and/or in self-rightness?

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.


Questions Setting The Stage[

Let us set the stage for a reasonable discussion regarding judgment because there has been so many evil judgments done with zeal by those honestly believing they are doing right, and/or being righteous, the word righteousness means being right by our actions, and/or words.

Does God have the power to make people serve him? I think most of us would say absolutely! The truth is, no he does not, and will not make people serve him that is make them do right, and/or righteousness. Does that shock you? God cannot deny himself, it is impossible for him to do so, but do you know why? Moreover, for those with any clue of what incorruptibleness means, it actually means without sin. Thus, God is incorruptible having no sin or does he make mistakes as some believes he does.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

2 Timothy 2:12 If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we deny him, he also will deny us.

2 Timothy 2:13 If we are faithless, he remains faithful. He can't deny himself."

Furthermore, God cannot deny himself, what is God himself that he cannot deny himself? Love! God's love is not like ours it is incorruptible unable to do anything less then love, such as making someone serve him, through a religion, in Christ, or by us, all such coercing is sin, and corruption to love. Coercing is a sin because it goes against the very incorruptible God we serve who is love his love is given us freely, unlike sinful humans. In other words, this is why God does not change, incorruptibleness cannot change, thus, neither can God's love!

John 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another, even as I have loved you.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

1 John 4:19 We love Him, because he first loved us.

1 John 4:8 He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.

To have a superior attitude because of education, wealth, position, or our relationship with God, letting us think we have a right to run others lives, and/or make thme serve God through any means of coercion is directly against God's unchangeable personality. In fact, that was, and is, Satan personality, who gladly forces people by any means necessary to serve him. Moreover, this is why a true Christian cannot be a peddler of God's word, it make no difference because it does not change God incorruptible or his freely giving us the truth, his Son Christ Jesus. Hence, no person can be forced through any unrighteous means to serve him such service is not acceptable to God that must be worshiped in Spirit and truth, that is, the truth about him by his Spirit which cannot be corrupted by man's spirit found in their unrighteous flesh.

Job 1:9 Then Satan answered Yahweh, and said, "Does Job fear God for nothing?

Job 1:12 Yahweh said to Satan, "Behold, all that he has is in your power. Only on himself don't put forth your hand." So Satan went forth from the presence of Yahweh.

2 Corinthians 2:11 that no advantage may be gained over us by Satan; for we are not ignorant of his schemes.

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

God has allowed all the suffering in our world because he did not go against his incorruptible love, he cannot deny himself corrupting all life in favor of letting Adam and Eve not to chose life or death for themselves. When we get off that very narrow path into any form of coercion, signs, prophesies, fearful tacts to turn people to God we then have denied the very loving God we served who has brought us to himself through the greatest love of all, free voluntary service to God that does not deny God's love, that is, himself!

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

Extremism

We as Christian's are as proof, an ear marking of Christ being in us, reasonable, reasonable in mind and spirit, are we not? Why? Because we have the mind of Christ, and his spirit indwelling us. Yes, we dwell in Christ, and him in us, for real! we are his body members, we are not Christ that is owning the judgment seat of Christ, but sharing in love, in truth, the spirit of Christ in gentleness and wisdom. We have the mind of Christ if we belong to him, or we are not in him. Is Christ an extremist, having no judgment, and then harsh judgments week to week, day to day based upon human emotions, and events upon earth? Is he light and freedom from judgment then he swing wide into harsh judgments because we feel strong or weak in some areas at the moment? Are we not to test the spirits, so lets test the spirit to see if its God's incorruptible Spirit or our ever changing emotional spirit from our flesh?

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic.
3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.
3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Is Christ an extremist, or a reasonable compassionate king, with a light yoke? So if we are on either side of that the spirit tells us it not from God. It is from our flesh our emotional response that we use God's word to justify no matter how pure we think we are right in those feeling they are still unrighteous such corruption rather we understand it or not will not being someone to Christ. Were the apostles of Christ extremist, no!

Gal.5:1 Stand firm therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and don't be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

Gal.5:4 You are alienated from Christ, you who desire to be justified by the law. You have fallen away from grace.
5:5 For we, through the Spirit, by faith wait for the hope of righteousness.

Gal.5:13 For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don't use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another. 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}
5:15 But if you bite and devour one another, be careful that you don't consume one another. 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness,
5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 5:21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God. 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,{or, faithfulness} 5:23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

So we know by Christ reasonable mind that having no judgment is not of God, or having too much judgment is not from God, so here is the point? The flesh lust against what? Not a trick question? Do we have a sinful flesh? If we say no, we lie, if we say yes, we are telling the truth. Do we honestly think because we are a Christian's that our flesh has stop lusting against the Spirit of God?

What reasonable person would sell somebody that bill of goods? What reasonable person would not be aware of their own emotional lust (weakness) found in their flesh spirit? One could not be reasonable nor sound of mind in Christ if they believed what in their flesh is good (God's Judgments) that their flesh has a reasonable mind holding God's the righteous judgments. When God himself states the opposite and sent his son Christ Jesus to save us from the flesh?

Gal.5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.
Lets break this down further, is Christ always shaken by world events, scattering about running here and there to fix and compensate for problems? Rather is he in complete control of all events happening on earth and in heaven? Many will say that is a trick misleading statement, but its not! Nothing happens on this earth that not allowed by Christ or that he won't fix in a righteous new heaven and earth. Christ is never shaken, we are, because we are in our flesh that lust against the truth of Christ the Spirit. The flesh lust, it does not love the Spirit, or work with the Spirit of God, light does not dwell with darkness. Please get the wording the flesh is against the Spirit, lusting against it. God is not a friend of the flesh, which lust, and/or flesh is the world that he does not love and hates!

Heb.1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
1:4 having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have.
1:5 For to which of the angels did he say at any time, "You are my Son. Today have I become your father?"{Psalm 2:7} and again, "I will be to him a Father, and he will be to me a Son?"{2 Samuel 7:14; 1 Chronicles 17:13}
1:6 Again, when he brings in the firstborn into the world he says, "Let all the angels of God worship him."
1:7 Of the angels he says, "Who makes his angels winds, and his servants a flame of fire."{Psalm 104:4}
1:8 But of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your Kingdom.

Heb.4:13 There is no creature that is hidden from his sight, but all things are naked and laid open before the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Heb.12:28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can't be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe, 12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.{Deuteronomy 4:24}

We are under test in our flesh and its spirit, not Christ, Christ is under no test, or judgment, whatsoever, none! He is not pushed by world events as our flesh it constantly pushed by everything about us in this world because our flesh is the world. We do not serve a unreasonable fearful out of control king Christ Jesus in the flesh. There is no fear in Christ for those who actually listen and believe the truth! Hence, the rest is on us, not the truth, and Spirit in Christ which is not controlled by any lust of the flesh. One should not be deceived our using fleshly lust to help people come and know God, the Spirit which is not part of this world is clearly a falsehood.

Romans 8:15 For you didn't receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, "Abba{Abba is an Aramaic word for father or daddy, often used affectionately and respectfully in prayer to our Father in heaven.}! Father!"

2 Timothy 1:7 For God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.

1 Corinthians 14:33 for God is not a God of confusion, but of peace. As in all the assemblies of the saints,

James 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.

Judging The World in Righteousness

What person since Adam sinned into unrighteousness has stood before God and said they are righteous? Moreover, thinking God owes them eternal life by their works of righteousness found in themselves because of their good motives? None, not one, not even Christ was so bold as to make that assumption! But here is the point? How is our world to be judged, by humans in unrighteousness? Not at all! Reread what the judgmental to come is judged in? Just because we say we are a Christian and we use God's word the bible does not puts us in Christ judgment seat. Nor do we have the legal right to say our judgments are righteous because we tie our own emotional lust of flesh to God's word! Have we missed that point? Honestly, Christ waited until God raised him and placed him as our judge. Christ never mixed lust of flesh with God's word, can we say the same, honestly? Christ suffered in his flesh and his judgments were taken away until when? Until God raised him into immortality.

James1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.
1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.
1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger;
1:20 for the anger of man doesn't produce the righteousness of God.

James.4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you. 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge. 4:12 Only one is the lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge another?

Until then the bible is clear, Christ did not come to judge the world in its unrighteous flesh, by flesh (the old law was for the sins of our flesh in came to abolish the law). it was not his time to judge in righteous the world which means no sin from flesh. He waited until he was free of the lust of the flesh (not his own sins, but was forced to carry for us); as his Father is free of lust of the flesh, a flesh that is diametrically opposed to God himself so would Christ become in spirit. Christ listen to the righteous Spirit of his Father indwelling him, he was never alone, because the Father was in him always. If he spoke as a non-sinner his words were righteous because they were his Fathers words without sins of the flesh, unlike all the teachers of Israel (under the laws condemning the flesh inciting the flesh into judging sins of the flesh), if Christ words were not free of corruption they were not God's, meaning Christ would no have meet the perfect will of his Father Jehovah God in Spirit and truth!

Matt. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

John 3:17 For God didn't send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him.

John 5:30 I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don't seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.
John 8:16 Even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent me.

Moreover, that is why Jesus was compelled by truth in him to say that if he did judge his judgments were righteous because, simply put, they were his Fathers. Did the apostles at their times make judgments directed by their the same righteousness found in Christ? Yes! Not by their personal righteousness but in the living life of Christ indwelling them as their mind, that is, their head, rendering perfect judgments in a very limited way, under the direct supervision of Holy Spirit and that is why it is recorded with God's stamp of approval for us in our bibles. In other words, the apostles did not add to God's word by their own motives, their own originality (unrighteousness) because their flesh was exited by some utterance or some event taking place on earth; blurting out judgments from their flesh as if it were God's righteousness. This is the real fear that all Christian should have not the end of this world or event happening in this world, that is, in their flesh! But the discrediting God by claim prophecy their utter from their flesh is God's! That is fearful to boast in the flesh calling it God's love!

1Cor.1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1:31 that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast in the Lord."{Jeremiah 9:24}

1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.

James.3:1 Let not many of you be teachers, my brothers, knowing that we will receive heavier judgment. 3:2 For in many things we all stumble. If anyone doesn't stumble in word, the same is a perfect man, able to bridle the whole body also. 3:3 Indeed, we put bits into the horses' mouths so that they may obey us, and we guide their whole body.
3:4 Behold, the ships also, though they are so big and are driven by fierce winds, are yet guided by a very small rudder, wherever the pilot desires. 3:5 So the tongue is also a little member, and boasts great things. See how a small fire can spread to a large forest!
3:6 And the tongue is a fire. The world of iniquity among our members is the tongue, which defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature, and is set on fire by Gehenna.{or, Hell}
3:7 For every kind of animal, bird, creeping thing, and thing in the sea, is tamed, and has been tamed by mankind.
3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.

Lets prove that point? Before the outpouring of Holy Spirit and Christ life indwelling his apostles as their reasonable mind and spirit they often and foolishly blurted out fleshly judgments that the Holy Spirit in Christ corrected! None of that happen upon the outpouring of Holy Spirit and adoption as son's of God's if so it was very rare and it meant with strong rebuke from the Holy Spirit for such a serious offense. Note as well none of the apostles required as the law for the often mislead flesh by it emotions the proof two witness rule, once the Holy Spirit was in them, they had the witness the absolute truth that upheld Christ Judgments. Nor did Christ when he stated a judgment he need not the witness of men to uphold his judgment he had the witness of the Father who cannot lie and the Spirit of God as incorruptible truth!

Acts. 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira, his wife, sold a possession,
5:2 and kept back part of the price, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
5:3 But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
5:4 While you kept it, didn't it remain your own? After it was sold, wasn't it in your power? How is it that you have conceived this thing in your heart? You haven't lied to men, but to God."
5:5 Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and died. Great fear came on all who heard these things.
5:6 The young men arose and wrapped him up, and they carried him out and buried him.
5:7 About three hours later, his wife, not knowing what had happened, came in.
5:8 Peter answered her, "Tell me whether you sold the land for so much." She said, "Yes, for so much."
5:9 But Peter asked her, "How is it that you have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? Behold, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out."
5:10 She fell down immediately at his feet, and died. The young men came in and found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her by her husband.
5:11 Great fear came on the whole assembly, and on all who heard these things.

Romans 14:4 Who are you who judge another's servant? To his own lord he stands or falls. Yes, he will be made to stand, for God has power to make him stand.

Romans 14:10 But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Romans 14:22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who doesn't judge himself in that which he approves.

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.


The Confusion of Flesh

We are not left to our own understanding or the emotions of our flesh regarding righteous judgments of God that the whole world will under go. First, and foremost the flesh has had its judgment conclusively since the fall of Adam into sin, causing corruption and unrighteousness. It is only the flesh that is confusion over judgments of God, which judgments does not satisfied the fleshes vengeance. God forthright and unequivocal judged all unrighteous of our flesh is finished. Death is it judgment! The highest penalty for a crime! Nothing more or less satisfies God's righteous law; that is the price of sin, which sin is unrighteousness, all sin is unrighteous, thus, all sin is lawless to God, and is evil, judged evil deserving of death not leading to death but judge dead as its penalty.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; and so death passed to all men, because all sinned.

Romans 5:13 For until the law, sin was in the world; but sin is not charged when there is no law.

Romans 5:20 The law came in besides, that the trespass might abound; but where sin abounded, grace abounded more exceedingly;

Romans 5:21 that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Thus, when we judge flesh, our judgment are what? Let Christ tell us what the truth is of our flesh. It is is of no value at all, and when we judge flesh our judgments of flesh our unrighteous, and of no value at all in serving or making someone serve God, Why? the flesh itself is also unrighteous it cannot know God or please God. We are judging unrighteous judgments against something judged unrighteous by God himself thinking we can go beyond that judgment into an everlasting judgment that satisfies our own lust of our flesh.

John 1:13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

Yes, don't be offended here, the flesh wants more judgment into an everlasting burning hell fire judgment for someone evil that the flesh has done to pay for their sins endlessly. It not enough that all flesh suffers and dies, and spend a whole life time trying through every means possible not to lose its precious life, but still does die, no matter what happens. The flesh does not have a reasonable mind, the flesh has an extremist mind that swings from injustice to justice based upon world events effecting its life in the flesh. (the flesh is the world.)

Romans 6:9 knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!

Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

Romans 6:11 Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:17 But thanks be to God, that, whereas you were bondservants of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching whereunto you were delivered.

Romans 6:18 Being made free from sin, you became bondservants of righteousness.

The fleshly mind will use God's words in the bible to give credibility and weight to its claim of speaking God's righteous judgment against others, and it own brother that are part of the body of Christ. The judgment of the flesh is done, no flesh will survive death. All pay the ultimate price of sin, willing sin, or unwilling sin, death, the pain, and lost of love ones, the suffering of all unrighteous governments, commerce and religion; none get off Scott free!

Ps.90:1 <<A Prayer by Moses, the man of God.>> Lord, you have been our dwelling place for all generations.
90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, before you had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, you are God. 90:3 You turn man to destruction, saying, "Return, you children of men." 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight are just like yesterday when it is past, like a watch in the night. 90:5 You sweep them away as they sleep. In the morning they sprout like new grass. 90:6 In the morning it sprouts and springs up. By evening, it is withered and dry. 90:7 For we are consumed in your anger. We are troubled in your wrath. 90:8 You have set our iniquities before you, our secret sins in the light of your presence.
90:9 For all our days have passed away in your wrath. We bring our years to an end as a sigh. 90:10 The days of our years are seventy, or even by reason of strength eighty years; yet their pride is but labor and sorrow, for it passes quickly, and we fly away. 90:11 Who knows the power of your anger, your wrath according to the fear that is due to you? 90:12 So teach us to number our days, that we may gain a heart of wisdom. 90:13 Relent, Yahweh! How long? Have compassion on your servants! 90:14 Satisfy us in the morning with your loving kindness, that we may rejoice and be glad all our days.
90:15 Make us glad for as many days as you have afflicted us, for as many years as we have seen evil. 90:16 Let your work appear to your servants; your glory to their children. 90:17 Let the favor of the Lord our God be on us; establish the work of our hands for us; yes, establish the work of our hands.

But Christ is not judging unrighteous flesh, he is judging all of us righteously under his rulership, in a sinless judgment, what! If a person dies they have paid the price for sin, willful, or otherwise in their flesh. If a person dies in Christ they have no judgment of the flesh, its paid the price, death. That is a judgment none of us, not one of us can judge unless we our foolish and/or mislead, ignorant of judging some one in their spirit after the judgment of the flesh since Adam sin and God's judge him from his own mouth. The flesh judges to kill the flesh and its habits that offend it, it judges to stop the flesh from sinning, which is a lie, (the flesh cannot stop sinning), and mind you this false teaching the flesh can stop sinning is a very wicked powerful lie that Satan himself uses over and over again in all false religion to enslave them by turning himself into a angel of light claim righteousness in the flesh separate from God righteousness, the lie he told Eve.

An angel of righteousness in dealing and judging the flesh, which is always unrighteous according to God's own unchangeable judgment that he render at the founding of sin into our world.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Psalms 24:4 He who has clean hands and a pure heart; who has not lifted up his soul to falsehood, and has not sworn deceitfully.

Proverbs 16:2 All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but Yahweh weighs the motives.

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, "I have made my heart pure. I am clean and without sin?"

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

God has preordained a small group of individual designated kings and priest to judge with Christ the spirit of humans eternally. That is why God has formed them, and is why they must like Christ suffer in their flesh in sinlessness (declared righteous) so they like Christ can become compassionate priest for the benefit of setting mankind free of the stain of sin that permeated into every fiber of their being. That is the judgment to come in “righteousness” (in Christ; in his righteousness as God's anointed are now in). Yes, please understand righteousness, means without sin, sin from what? The lust of our flesh which prevents us from rendering God's righteous judgments correctly because corruption cannot inherit incorruption, a good tree cannot produce corrupt fruit , nor a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

1Pet.1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy became our father again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1:4 to an incorruptible and undefiled inheritance that doesn't fade away, reserved in Heaven for you,
1:5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1:6 Wherein you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been put to grief in various trials,
1:7 that the proof of your faith, which is more precious than gold that perishes even though it is tested by fire, may be found to result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ--
1:8 whom not having known you love; in whom, though now you don't see him, yet believing, you rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory--
1:9 receiving the result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
1:10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets sought and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you,
1:11 searching for who or what kind of time the Spirit of Christ, which was in them, pointed to, when he predicted the sufferings of Christ, and the glories that would follow them.
1:12 To them it was revealed, that not to themselves, but to you, they ministered these things, which now have been announced to you through those who preached the Good News to you by the Holy Spirit sent out from heaven; which things angels desire to look into.
1:13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action,{literally, "gird up the waist of your mind"} be sober and set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ--
1:14 as children of obedience, not conforming yourselves according to your former lusts as in your ignorance,
1:15 but just as he who called you is holy, you yourselves also be holy in all of your behavior;
1:16 because it is written, "You shall be holy; for I am holy."{Leviticus 11:44-45}
1:17 If you call on him as Father, who without respect of persons judges according to each man's work, pass the time of your living as foreigners here in reverent fear:
1:18 knowing that you were redeemed, not with corruptible things, with silver or gold, from the useless way of life handed down from your fathers,
1:19 but with precious blood, as of a faultless and pure lamb, the blood of Christ;
1:20 who was foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but was revealed at the end of times for your sake,
1:21 who through him are believers in God, who raised him from the dead, and gave him glory; so that your faith and hope might be in God.
1:22 Seeing you have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth through the Spirit in sincere brotherly affection, love one another from the heart fervently:
1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever.
1:24 For, "All flesh is like grass, and all of man's glory like the flower in the grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls;
1:25 but the Lord's word endures forever."{Isaiah 40:6-8} This is the word of Good News which was preached to you.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellence of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:


Does that mean people can't be wicked? No! Does that mean the evil does not dwell in our earth? No! (the world is flesh) Does that mean we like it when people do wicked and evil things in their flesh to others? No! Does that mean that Christian's should run ramped becoming more evil then the world because those in Christ have no judgment? No!

It does not mean that at all, it means we have a reasonable mind, knowing we all fail short of God's glory, all of us sin, and we do things we don't want to be judged for. We understand if it were not for God's love in removing our judgment none or us could stand or be accounted righteous in Christ, that is, without sin. We temper our lust to judge not because we love evil, or we love sin, but we know the truth of all mankind and the condition of mankind until they are judge in Christ righteousness like we are in our flesh that lust against the Spirit so we can learn the wickedness of all sin, no sin is good or from God, nor does God condone it because he has forgiven us freely. Such unrighteous thinking tramples upon the undeserved kindness of God. But still we must be patient and longer suffering because what dwells in our own flesh is no good either for serving God.

1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God doesn't sin, but he who was born of God keeps himself, and the evil one doesn't touch him.

We are not going along with sin and evil because we want unrighteously long to practice it, because we are free from judgment. Not at all, we have the whole truth of sin in us and in the human race. So we cannot become overly righteous, or overly wicked because we have to live in both our entire life on this earth. Why act like our human judgments are going to fix someone in the flesh which flesh is dead to God, why think what we judge is going to make someone serve God in Spirit and truth? How foolish when we cannot even walk in Spirit most of the day!

Rom. 12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

Rom. 9:15 For he said to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."{Exodus 33:19}
9:16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy.
9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I caused you to be raised up, that I might show in you my power, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."{Exodus 9:16}
9:18 So then, he has mercy on whom he desires, and he hardens whom he desires.
9:19 You will say then to me, "Why does he still find fault? For who withstands his will?"
9:20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed ask him who formed it, "Why did you make me like this?"{Isaiah 29:16; 45:9}
9:21 Or hasn't the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel for honor, and another for dishonor?
9:22 What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath made for destruction,
9:23 and that he might make known the riches of his glory on vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory,
9:24 us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles?
9:25 As he says also in Hosea, "I will call them 'my people,' which were not my people; and her 'beloved,' who was not beloved."{Hosea 2:23}
9:26 "It will be that in the place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' There they will be called 'children of the living God.'"{Hosea 1:10}
9:27 Isaiah cries concerning Israel, "If the number of the children of Israel are as the sand of the sea, it is the remnant who will be saved;
9:28 for He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, because the LORD will make a short work upon the earth."{Isaiah 10:22-23}
9:29 As Isaiah has said before, "Unless the Lord of Armies{Greek: Sabaoth (for Hebrew: Tze'va'ot)} had left us a seed, we would have become like Sodom, and would have been made like Gomorrah."{Isaiah 1:9}
9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, who didn't follow after righteousness, attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith;
9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.
9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Here is the fatal flaw of those that cannot and will not accept the complete Christ. They believe that if they accept that they are freely forgiving not under the judgment of the flesh any longer they are allowing for sin with no restrain of laws for the flesh to punish the flesh, as if they had a choice; they are not in control of their own salvation meaning they are not sinless in the flesh or anything they can do to the flesh will stop it from sinning. Hence, they feel in emotions they are condoning sin in themselves, and in others because they can't control it with their will power. They unwittingly think they have done something to remove sin from themselves by the application of God's word in their lives they cannot dismiss this point and any teaching of grace is wicked seeking away not to be punished sin but just let it go, the same was thought of Christ by most of the teachers of Israel.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

Romans 4:5 But to him who doesn't work, but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness.

Philippians 1:11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

So, it has been by their self-efforts they are righteous. In other words, Christ forgave them their sin on a temporary contract with a clause that states (which is less then the new covenant instituted by Christ own blood): “I did not freely forgive your sins, I hold a condition that if you don't constantly produce good works from your unrighteous fleshy for me by the application of the holy writ the bible I will take back the free gift. It not free at all, it is condition upon obedience in our unrighteous flesh to be perfect and/or in the process of perfecting our flesh to prove we are righteousness!”

That teaching is from our flesh rather we understand it or not, it is the flesh, sinful, unrighteous flesh the cannot freely love others without some concision from them in their flesh. The flesh is dead, it is in death and hence cannot know God's love. To state otherwise goes beyond the word of God adding yeast that comes from our flesh and its sin into the holy writ of God's word.

Romans 3:24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus;

Romans 8:32 He who didn't spare his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how would he not also with him freely give us all things?

1 Corinthians 2:12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God.

Ephesians 1:6 to the praise of the glory of his grace, by which he freely bestowed favor on us in the Beloved,

Revelation 21:6 He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give freely to him who is thirsty from the spring of the water of life.

Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.

Thus, they have by false thing earned eternal life, based upon their merit of the good things they practiced on earth in their unrighteous, judge flesh, judged as unworthy, of no value at all to God or Christ. Upon judgment day they present themselves before Christ throne with a list written of all the good they done (in their flesh) which nullifies the evil they have done in their already judge unrighteous flesh by God. They have become a tree of good and corrupt fruit outside the vine of Christ to prove their own righteousness before God in a flesh dead to God! Ultimately, believing the first lie that the can live forever in paradise by their own will producing God's righteousness.

John.15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me.
15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
15:6 If a man doesn't remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

Rom. 9:10 Not only so, but Rebecca also conceived by one, by our father Isaac.
9:11 For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls,

Moreover, because they are very conservative and error on the side of life as the old saying goes they practice and teach the same to all their own students just in case Christ lied, he was not enough, and his no power over his own body members, but is still dealing with the unrighteous flesh in trying to bring it to life after his own Father judged it dead thousand's of years before Christ came to earth!

John 5:24 "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

Ephesians 3:17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; to the end that you, being rooted and grounded in love,

Ephesians 2:8 for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

On a good day they have merit, and on a bad day they lose merit and at the end of the day, their life in their unrighteous flesh, if there is enough good they win the lottery of life. Anything less then these values is condoning sin for the fleshly mind, and taking a chance of not completing the contract outside of the new covenant they have vowed to and made up through false religion. But they have deny the free, unconditional gift of life that now has become revocable by them in their flesh and unrighteous judgment of the flesh which cannot ever produce good works of God through the incorruptible Holy Spirit. For a corrupt tree cannot produce good fruit, but they can at by the first lie according to the angel of light by dismissing the first and final judgment of our flesh, death!

Romans 5:15 But the free gift isn't like the trespass. For if by the trespass of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God, and the gift by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many.

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered into his rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from his.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

2 Timothy 1:9 who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before times eternal.

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

They have by works of law changed their flesh, and it filth given themselves a new birth, they have become the tree and not the branches, which branches on the tree produce the fruit of the tree, not of themselves, but of the life of Christ Jesus. Changing the truth for a legally cautious unrighteous contract they made up in their own unrighteous fleshly mind with God. Thinking themselves wise by taking no chances in God's love, and Christ who suffered and died to save people not kill them! The flesh cannot know God, it knows only the judgment of God past from Adam sin, thus, the flesh only knows the written words of judgment against the flesh that oppose God's Spirit!

Does God Condone and Dwell in Sin?

If you are a sinner God does not dwell in you! So how can one be both at the sametime? If it is by merit then one is a sinner paying off their daily debit of sin by works, correct? Are you a sinner? If you are a sinner your not in Christ, unequivocally.

1 John 3:9 Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God.

Are you freely forgiven once fall all time your sin having not debit for your sin? Yes, or no? Because what in the middle is from the wicked one, the Devil. Are you freely forgiven in Christ, simple question, no hidden agenda here? Then you cannot be a sinner, God's Holy Spirit does not dwell in corruption which is your flesh.

We are only the temple of God when we dwell in Christ (righteousness without sin we cannot be in the temple of God with sin unrighteousness) we are in his spirit, not spirit of our flesh! If that weren't so, then the flesh would still be under judgment, but it not so, which is a divine truth that our flesh is condemned, dead, the flesh is of no value at all in serving God in the Spirit the temple of God, which means being in Christ Jesus, hence, in righteousness, is ours sanctification, there is no other sanctification!

John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 2:20 The Jews therefore said, "Forty-six years was this temple in building, and will you raise it up in three days?" 2:21 But he spoke of the temple of his body.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?

What is practiced in the flesh cannot be made clean, or reformed, it is dead to God, because he long ago judged it dead because sin is corrupts opposed to incorrution. Now the truth is light and stand in stark opposition to our flesh and its teaching of constantly judging others in our flesh by God's word, which is, the dead judging the dead, let the dead bury the dead if we are alive in Christ!

Mark 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are therefore badly mistaken."

Heb. 6:1 Therefore leaving the doctrine of the first principles of Christ, let us press on to perfection--not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works, of faith toward God,
6:2 of the teaching of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
6:3 This will we do, if God permits.

Listen carefully, God condones no sin, seen, practice, or unseen, not a words of sin, no thoughts of sin. Why don't we judge righteously by the God's standards for sin. That all sin is lawlessness, God is incorruptible and does not live in corruption. That brings us to his mercy and salvation as the only hope for mankind, does it not!

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Now that make me and you dead to God, if that is God's standards of life and association with him, then why do you look at the straw in your brothers eye can't we see the log in your own? How are we going to stand before the judgment seat of God when he condone no sin? Is it going to be by our good works from our flesh, filled with both good and evil? How can we stand if not freely forgiven once for all time, would that not make God a liar and an Indian giver? Would that not mean we are freely forgiven but we must go beyond that into works of law to stay in Christ, who has bewitched us?

Romans 1:25 who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

2 Corinthians 11:31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, he who is blessed forevermore, knows that I don't lie.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie;

Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who can't lie, promised before time began;

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

How does stating the truth of flesh found in our bible condone sin, or stating because I tell the truth in Christ that makes me want to sin, and want others to sin? Are we lawless? Are we that unthankful for being created into a new man, the very image of Christ for us to love sinning, who has bewitch us, if we think that is the power that indwells us with the incorruptible life of Christ! How could anyone think that Christ is seating idly by doing nothing for his own body but using words from our bibles so we can uses them on the dead flesh thinking it please God by the efforts of our own unrighteous flesh, did Adam please God in his flesh after sinning, come on now, stop deceiving ourselves?

Titus.3:2 to speak evil of no one, not to be contentious, to be gentle, showing all humility toward all men.
3:3 For we were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
3:4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and his love toward mankind appeared,
3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
3:6 whom he poured out on us richly, through Jesus Christ our Savior;
3:7 that, being justified by his grace, we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Do we get that Christ is our righteousness that means his righteous, which is the living life in heaven in us, we are his, not our flesh! We live because he lives, we die because of sin. it isn't a bad day in our flesh that's going to change us in Christ, or God's love for us. That is the world of the flesh not the Christ, which world lives in the spirit of flesh lusting against the Spirit of God; a bad day changes nothing in Christ we might be readjusted by the Spirit so we put our faith completely in him and not ourselves (the world is the flesh). But it changes nothing when being freely forgiven sin once for all time for our eternal life; we are freely forgiven once for all time in the irrevocable gift to God's Son's life. (how can the flesh know that?)

Romans 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Simply put, our judgment is not God's judgment on these matter try if we will, we are overstepping ourselves when we walk up to Christ grasp his pinky finger and discipline it because we see a speak of flesh in our brothers eye. We are not doing a separate judgment in Christ as so many believe and teach about the flesh that is dead in Christ. We have no less then the reasonable peaceful mind of Christ, if we are in him; we are simply not in him when we judge separately from the new covenant. We are not the judge, one is the judge, and one the law giver. We are servants within the body of Christ washing feet, carrying the burden of our brothers we are not the beater of the flesh (like the wicked slave who could not wait upon his master judgment time). We are not ambassadors of the old covenant for the flesh to make it walk right before God, a flesh that cannot be made right or live before God, nor please God. We listen to what Christ the Spirit speaks to the our spirit declared righteous because we are in the Spirit, Christ. We are not the fear and anger of our fleshly, and its mind that is but a confuse shadow of truth, just like the old law was because it dealt with the sins of our flesh.

James.1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one.
1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed.
1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.
1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.
1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.

We speak truth of Christ righteousness his life and how we have been saved, transformed, and washed clean in it. We speak the law of love (the new covenant) the love that does not condones any sin. The law of love that has become compassionate in sending God's own son into our hearts that we might remember our stubborn and selfish ways and thank God he has shown us a better way, a living way of true righteousness in the life of his Son indwelling us. Do we like being free of judgment in Christ? Then why share another Good News?

Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart; and you will find rest for your souls. 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."

Let us show Christ mind of reasonableness by the fruits of Spirit, we were not sent to be the judges of flesh upon earth as though it will be saved if it become a little less sinful because it can never be righteous; a little less of a sinner is a little more righteous is a false religious teaches about our flesh. We are sent to declare the glory of God, his righteousness, not our own we which our dead unrighteous works of our flesh, but to teach and declare the incorruptible life of Christ Jesus to those that listen. Yes, there is a righteous judgment for all, without sins of their flesh, a judgment to life, and death for some, permanent death, cut off from any hope of living again in the spirit put into lake of fire, But when and who is the judge of that? Dare we sin against the Holy Spirit that has freely forgiven us by grace?

Is everything out of control in Christ in his rule over our earth that someone won't be saved because we didn't do our job in condemning the unrighteous flesh? Well, yes, if we are saving the flesh, for a short time, a mist of time, when compared to eternal life which the sinful flesh cannot have anyway, but no if it comes to God's judgment of the spirit given to each one before we were born into this life. That life belongs to the creator and judge of its, not us, only Satan would be that presumptuous to judge a person spirit separated from their evil flesh into eternal damnation!

Does that make us compliance because we speak the truth of the flesh by God's Spirit, or does that make us neglectful lacking love and compassion because we speak the truth of Christ? Is the flesh compliance? Yes, it is always compliance even among Christ disciples before they were born again not by flesh, but by Spirit; the flesh is always weak and can never please God no matter how much we preach to it, or make it listen, or shock it into something it can't be Spirit and truth, it is of no value at all in knowing God, and Christ. Please judge righteously.

Last Thought

The WTS is a harsh judge of fellowman to wake them up so they will join up in the flesh. They are waker uppers of the unwakable flesh that cannot be made righteous or obtain to Christ. They throw out the Spirit of temple for the power in controlling the flesh. They promote signs, and fear expectation of the things coming upon the earth as a wake up call to the flesh, so the flesh, which is not saved can run to the so called truth found in their fleshly organization. They like the world have a shakable kingdom, they have not received the unshakable kingdom of Christ given freely for over two thousand years now. Their salvation rest in the flesh, by their religious works, they are warning the flesh of others instead of true righteousness found in the Christ in heaven who is no part of this world, that is, the flesh, get it?

Those things will come but remember if we are not in Christ we are fleshly. The end when Christ comes in Spirit is a snare for fleshly animals that are caught like a beast not having the Spirit; baited by what controls the flesh. Once its closed there is no way to get out of the flesh into Christ the Spirit. If we think that's all physical by signs and sights we to are mislead in our flesh. The world of flesh is caught off guard because they are flesh which is of no value at all in Christ. The flesh must of necessity be caught off guard because there is no other option for the flesh. No Warning changes the flesh into the Spirit found in Christ, it not possible unless we deceived ourselves through false religion which is also our flesh. when God himself will not make a corrupt tree serve him by forcing it into loving him. No! God did not change Adam sinful flesh he didn't fix it, but killed it in his righteous judgment of all flesh.

Stop judging the flesh, and judge the righteous judgment of Christ.