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God Tempted by Evil?

James.1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one.

Is God tempted by evil? Many think so that somehow God YHWH is incomplete if he does not know all evil to ever exist, or will exist, for without such knowledge he would be lacking in dealing with evil found in us!

James.1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.
1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.

Can God be evil and not be corrupted? Can we be evil and not be corrupted? In other words, if God cannot be tempted by evil, and he cannot be corrupted by evil, and he tempts no one with evil?
Then how indeed can God have evil thoughts, as so many teach he does, and must have, to help us?

James.1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

Does God want or need to experience every nuance of life with all its evils to be a complete God as though he is missing and/or lacking as a God if he doesn't? Is God lacking in anything? Has he ever lacked? Or rather, is the lack in us as the bible clearly says it is? We are the ones forthrightly deceived if we think God is lacking, or teaching God is evil like us in our fallen flesh and need to learn more how to handle us as humans.

James 1:4 Let endurance have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

1 Thessalonians 3:10 night and day praying exceedingly that we may see your face, and may perfect that which is lacking in your faith?

Jeremiah 23:4 I will set up shepherds over them, who shall feed them; and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall any be lacking, says Yahweh.

Romans 3:3 For what if some were without faith? Will their lack of faith nullify the faithfulness of God?

Psalms 34:10 The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger, but those who seek Yahweh shall not lack any good thing.

Why must we be warned/corrected about such thoughts according to God's own word the bible? Well, simply put, God is not wicked, God is not corruptible, he does not sin, and has never sinned, or will he sin, nor does he dwell in darkness. Moreover, he is not a man, or does he need man's approval to make him God, that is, to justify him by their words. He need not one thing from us to be complete.

Isa.40:13 Who has directed the Spirit of Yahweh, or has taught him as his counselor? 40:14 Who did he take counsel with, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of justice, and taught him knowledge, and showed him the way of understanding?
40:15 Behold, the nations are like a drop in a bucket, and are regarded as a speck of dust on a balance. Behold, he lifts up the islands like a very little thing.

Isa.40:18 To whom then will you liken God? Or what likeness will you compare to him?

It is impossible for a incorruptible God to sin, or have the evil thoughts of sinning, and that is why God does not love this world. Moreover, we are vastly confused and deceived if we think he does? He love none of the nuance of the fallen fleshed expressed into every fiber of this worlds system of things.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him. 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's. 2:17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

God did not create incomplete spirit beings, or humans. God created perfect being without evil or the thoughts of evil. God need not know all evil if he in without evil of sin because he never created humans or spirits being with the need to know sin or to sin for them to be completed, or did he create them not to experience the fullness of life. God is the fullness of life there is no higher degree of life, and he did not create humans or spirit persons to be without the fullness of life. The first lie stated was that about God that he withheld truth from his creators so they could not experience life in full measure! God did not create them to be tempted with evil so he could complete them, they were instead fully complete in life because perfect love allows for no less. God is love, and because he is love He allows all spirit person and humans the free will to love God or reject God's love. That is far from evil, or lacking something good. Nor does it imply in the least that more was needed on God's part so others would not make the same mistake!

3 John 1:11 Beloved, don't imitate that which is evil, but that which is good. He who does good is of God. He who does evil hasn't seen God.

1 Peter 3:11 Let him turn away from evil, and do good. Let him seek peace, and pursue it.

1 Peter 1:25 but the Lord's word endures forever."{Isaiah 40:6-8} This is the word of Good News which was preached to you.

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Hebrews 10:24 Let us consider how to provoke one another to love and good works,

There is a vast difference between a salvage operation and a creation. God is dealing with the wreckage of sin being introduced into a sinless world he created without sin. The world is in darkness or God is a liar! God sent his Son Christ Jesus to carry our evil sins or he sent him to roll in mire so he could live with sin in us, which is it? Well, if we believe God and his word, all sin and its thoughts are not of God, and will be done away with in Christ righteous mind.

1 John 3:5 You know that he was revealed to take away our sins, and in him is no sin.

1 John 3:6 Whoever remains in him doesn't sin. Whoever sins hasn't seen him, neither knows him.

Ephesians 4:22 that you put away, as concerning your former way of life, the old man, that grows corrupt after the lusts of deceit;

Matthew 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

The expression of life in its fullest degree was already known by both Adam and Eve, nothing was lacking in them in life or for their life. It was a fallen spirit son that introduced into Eve who had stepped out of her own headship into a flawed mind away for God's direction that Satan used to lie saying God was lacking making him evil because God was withholding selfishly from her and her husband something they needed to complete their lives.

1 John 2:21 I have not written to you because you don't know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.

Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who can't lie, promised before time began;

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

Revelation 21:27 There will in no way enter into it anything profane, or one who causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.

The wreckage is the lie Satan told, the salvation is getting us back to the real life without sin so we can gain the fullness of life that was lost by the gift of God's love to all his spirit son's and soon to be children upon earth. Let us not be deceived into thinking something is missing in love, or in God, let us not think our intellect is God's mind or can help him save us.

Colossians 2:18 Let no one rob you of your prize by a voluntary humility and worshiping of the angels, dwelling in the things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Colossians 3:2 Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are on the earth.

Colossians 1:21 You, being in past times alienated and enemies in your mind in your evil works.

1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.

We should teach the truth of our Father as perfect life that has never changed or lack anything good, we should not teach the lie which robs us and the world from coming back to God who is the fullness of life, and lacks nothing good for us. Christ did not come to learn sin, but to destroy every nuance of evil found from the first lie told in a universe, a universe that had never heard of such an evil, of a so called simple (a worldly standard) lie our world can't even understand why it caused so much sickness and carouse every since. Which world has constantly speculated about every since!

Psalms 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity. In sin my mother conceived me.

1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God doesn't sin, but he who was born of God keeps himself, and the evil one doesn't touch him.

1 Peter 2:22 who did not sin, "neither was deceit found in his mouth."{Isaiah 53:9}

1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind; for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin;

Hebrews 9:28 so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, without sin, to those who are eagerly waiting for him for salvation.

Hebrews 4:15 For we don't have a high priest who can't be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but one who has been in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin.

The flesh is a lie at least to God, and we can certainly disagree with God on that subject (having a free will). But all we need to do is see our own conduct in how we treat people to their face and what our true heart which often thinks evil of someone we don't like when their not there? Hence, we have the truth starring us right back in our flesh unless we think we are righteous, and our unrighteousness is not wrong?

James. 1:23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror;
1:24 for he sees himself, and goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does.
1:26 If anyone among you thinks himself to be religious while he doesn't bridle his tongue, but deceives his heart, this man's religion is worthless.
There is no such thing as a righteous lie, or a good one, so we cannot be good in our flesh, now can we? The evil exist with us, we impute our feelings into God and others not the other way around because God cannot be tried with evil nor does he try us with evil God does not impute evil too us. One is a lie the other is the truth, which king do we submit to that is real question we must answer? Eve made the wrong choice which lead to darkness in all the earth and filled it with unrighteous evils of all flesh.

2 Peter 2:18 For, uttering great swelling words of emptiness, they entice in the lusts of the flesh, by licentiousness, those who are indeed escaping from those who live in error;

1 Peter 4:2 that you no longer should live the rest of your time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.

1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

God does not need for us to know sin, or every evil, he is not creating from a corrupt world, a new world, as if he lacked in creating Adam and Eve in the first place, or their world, or he withheld something from them. God not withholding some evil thought our of fear that unlock darkness into this world. We do not serve a wicked God, or a God that is less than love, nor a God that hides in darkness little boxes of things so evil about himself he cannot express in words. What a fools game! What wickness has Satan and wicked spirit force in heavenly places feed mankind by their own corrupted personality in playing the victim to discredit God, and all his is?

Isaiah 44:8 Don't fear, neither be afraid. Haven't I declared it to you long ago, and shown it? You are my witnesses. Is there a God besides me? Indeed, there is not. I don't know any other Rock."

Acts 5:32 We are His witnesses of these things; and so also is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one.

Do we get it? Did Christ ever imply that something was lacking in God? Do we get it? Christ is God's finish work, not to be improved upon by his experience with sin and evil. Christ was murdered by sin and evil to finish off evil and sin for us. Christ is the perfect Adam, not the imperfect Adam that somehow something was missing in God until he came to earth. No! Christ came to save us from sin and corruption of all evil, not to dig into it, to examine it as if God didn't get it right in creating Adam and Eve.

Deuteronomy 32:4 The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice: a God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and right is he.

1Cor. 13:1 If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don't have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but don't have love, I am nothing.
13:3 If I dole out all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but don't have love, it profits me nothing.
13:4 Love is patient and is kind; love doesn't envy. Love doesn't brag, is not proud,
13:5 doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil;
13:6 doesn't rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
13:8 Love never fails.

Yes, it hard to believe God is complete perfect in all his ways that he is not always learning changing and improving. Yes, for us in our flesh it is impossible to believe the truth of love, how nothing lacks in love, i.e. God. How nothing can be improved upon in love, because there no corruption in perfect love, that is, sin/darkness. Love does not make mistakes, sin and evil does. Love need not forgiveness, but sin does. Love need not think evil because it can't. Love need not live in fear, sin live in the fear of losing control of its life, and its belongings. No! Love lacks nothing good, or does it impute evil to others. Love is God, and if we don't know love, we are being told we don't have God's Spirit and the mind of Christ ruling our hearts. We lack in all these areas, and need God to redeem us into a reasonable mind without sin to even know the things of God!

We are being perfect in faith, not in flesh cleaning up the sins of our fallen flesh, we are not being perfect by evil, but love, or do we need to experience every fiber of knowledge of evil so we are constantly protected from fears of our flesh. No, we are perfected in love, why? Because perfect love is also perfect faith in the God of love.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

1 Timothy 5:20 Those who sin, reprove in the sight of all, that the rest also may be in fear.

2 Timothy 1:7 For God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.

Daniel