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Every Eye Will See Him

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, including those who pierced him. All the tribes of the earth will mourn over him. Even so, Amen.

Is this the standard of pure worship that every eye must see Christ or pure worship on earth and in heaven cannot be perfected? Strange question is it not? Yes, it is? When considering the entire book of Revelation tells us it is written in signs! What is a sign? Well, if your eye offends you pluck it out! Should we believe that everyone who has ever looked, that is, had sexual thoughts about the opposite sex should pluck out their eye to restore pure worship on earth and in the heavens, hardly!

Matthew 18:9 If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out, and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into the Gehenna{or, Hell} of fire.

Pure Worship

Pure worship should not be a mystery to those having the Spirit of God, why? Because the very foundation of all truth is right before them in their bibles! What was lost by Adam? Was it not “pure worship” of God; a pure worship Adam could live in forever in Paradise without sickness, death, or pain? Once Adam sinned death, sickness, pain, and death. enter into our world, and pure worship vanished until Christ came as the last Adam.
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Did Adam have to physically see God to worship God in pure truth and Spirit? Did Adam fail because he could not see God physically, so that he would obey God by sight worship out of fear, like going to a meeting where people put on pretense of being better in their flesh than they really are at home? Is that what Adam needed to hold his feet to the fire?

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, "Things which an eye didn't see, and an ear didn't hear, which didn't enter into the heart of man, these God has prepared for those who love him."{Isaiah 64:4}

Psalms 34:9 Oh fear Yahweh, you his saints, for there is no lack with those who fear him.

Psalms 34:10 The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger, but those who seek Yahweh shall not lack any good thing.

Is the depth of our worship in God based on without seeing him we will not serve him? Do we believe Adam lacked in God when God created Adam in perfect love that he was withholding something good from Adam because Adam could not see God?

James.1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

You see this is the foolishness when we stretch a verse from our bible into a doctrine of dogmatic truth! Adam's creation on earth as a child of God was perfect in God's love. Adam was to never to see him with his physical eyes, but to worship him in Spirit and truth, the rest is conjecture drummed up by our fallen flesh. Seeing God is not mandatory for God's judgment, or to worship him if were honestly seeking the truth.

Luke 8:10 He said, "To you it is given to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of God, but to the rest in parables; that 'seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.'{Isaiah 6:9}

2 Corinthians 5:7 for we walk by faith, not by sight.

Christ very life on earth proved that point, Christ lived in Spirit and truth and had the closes possible relationship with the Father a son could have. Yes, it hard to accept, Christ had the same relationship that Adam had in his flesh on earth with God a Father to a son.

And if we want the whole truth that statement can be made of everyone of God's anointed that lived their life in the flesh on earth with God in Spirit, and truth as all God's sons do, nothing in that relationship lack in God, or Christ, it is our flesh that causes us fear of lack. But, nevertheless, those in Christ are in pure worship found in the temple of Christ.

1Cor.3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?

Clearing up The Fog

Divine truth that cannot change by a false application of God's word. The truth that does not changes is this; Flesh and blood cannot, so another words no fleshly thought can be in God incorruption so it cannot inherit God's kingdom! But the question is why? Well, first let us ask some more questions we might just find stunning?

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Did Christ perfect sinless flesh inherit the kingdom of God? We can think the scripture regarding corruption cannot inherit incorruption
only applies to sinful flesh which cannot inherit the kingdom of God, but its not true? Christ own flesh did not inherit the kingdom of God, but still we have not answered why flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God?

John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son,{NU reads "God"} who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.

None of us have a problem, I don't think, that a fish cannot breathe air, we accept that as a truth, we don't buy fish and get upset that we can't play with them outside of water or they die? So why would it be so hard for us to understand the truth of what is created spirit, and what is created flesh has two sets of rules/laws? One can see, God (Spirit) the other can't without it resulting in death?

If I tell you one cannot go to the Sun in their flesh does that offend us? Does the Sun lack something good for us because we cannot look at it directly for very long without damage to our eyes? Is the Sun being evil, and cruel because we cannot touch it with our physical hands or bodies?

Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who can't lie, promised before time began;

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

Now since we are talking foolishness here let us exaggerated some more foolishness. If we could make ourselves into the same substance as our Sun we could commune with the Sun. and go to the Sun and live in peace with Sun without any damage to us, could we not?

Does such a fancy exist? Well, it might in entertainment world found on the a science fiction channel! Corruption cannot inherit incorruptibility, its that simple, no more so than we can go to our Sun, flesh and blood cannot see God and live. Not even the righteous flesh of Christ himself saw God, while on earth!

1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

Two immutable fact which its impossible for God to lie, flesh and blood cannot inherit incorruption, and every eye will see God a truth; so we cannot be talking about the physical eye, but of the heart where the Spirit of God is our eyes and direction if as we should be lead by Holy Spirit.

Incorruption Not on Earth

The Sun is not evil, it is life, as long as we don't bring it to this earth! Can we not rejoice in this life on earth God created us to live in without feeling deprived because we cannot bring the power of our Sun to earth?

How strange for us to think the incorruptible God of all life would has made his Son Christ Jesus into exactly, very being of incorruptible life and then teach that at some future point that God's kingdom will come to earth plus all of God's anointed having received the same incorruptible life, so that every eye can see incorruptible life? Brothers, are we not told the book of Revelation is in signs? How can God and Christ the temple of the living God, which is, not even a physical temple, but the living life of his Son Christ Jesus, must come to earth for us to have pure worship, when we have already been told by the God who cannot lie what pure worship is, and he created Adam and Eve in?

Gen.1:26 God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
1:27 God created man in his own image. In God's image he created him; male and female he created them.
1:28 God blessed them. God said to them, "Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the sky, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
1:29 God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food.
1:30 To every animal of the earth, and to every bird of the sky, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food;" and it was so.
1:31 God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. There was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

Are we saying that something more is needed by God so mankind can live in paradise on earth, and that missing piece is the physical sight of the temple of God coming down from heaven to earth so people can worship in sight, instead to Spirit and truth, so they can fear God? What are we thinking if it not ideas of our flesh that dwells upon sight worship?

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

Listen brothers, look at creation? Where is the manufactures logo, where does it say: made by God so all will know and fear him? Why are those things missing and then God allows little men to take his glory as credit to boast in their own flesh making themselves greater than the creation of God himself?

Where is the God of show when has never sent an army of angels to appear to turn people to Christ out of fear?

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

This is a true story, a preacher once touted that God was not against smoking; he based his entire doctrine that God was not against smoking from a passage found in his bible! That passage was; Rachel lite off the camel.

Seriously! Hows ridiculous can a person become over scriptures, but this is a true story! Just think camel cigarettes hadn't yet been created when Rachel was alive on earth thousand's of years ago? Yet, this is the extremism of our fleshly mind if we are not careful when we thinking we can take one passage from our bibles and teach a complete doctrine as truth, we will come up very short and look foolish is such dogmatic statements.

It is much like, and we all do it, saying Christ is the truth and spoke the truth so everything he said has to be literal truth, physical truth in our lives. Knowing full well we only uses such standards in things we want to make a rock hard case about some truth we are touting!

How does one pluck out an eye? And/ or take the speck out of are brothers eye? How does a beam existed in our own eye, have we actually physically seen a beam in our eye in the mirror? How is the eye the light or our body? Do we walk around in darkness at night opening our eyes wide and they shine as headlights on a car?

Every Eye Will See Him

The question begs, where are those eyes that priced Christ? Where are the people John was speaking to two thousand's years ago when he wrote every eye will see him, Christ? Are they alive, having seeing eyes, seeing physical eyes?

Luke 11:34 The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore when your eye is good, your whole body is also full of light; but when it is evil, your body also is full of darkness.

Luke 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to enter in through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God."

Revelation 3:18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may become rich; and white garments, that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see.

No! they are not! They are awaiting the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous are they not? Who is in charge of resurrecting them? Is it not Jesus, is he not the resurrection and the life? How can any person be raised by Christ, and not see him, or know that he was raised by the incorruptible spirit of Christ Jesus? This is not a mystery, it is a simple basic truth we should all grasp about Christ, and the coming resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous?

Acts 24:15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

But are those eyes physically eyes recreated by Christ in the resurrection so that they see Abraham and all the prophets in God's kingdom physically on earth? That seems to be the new teachings for some? Well, Christ was ask before the Holy Spirit was poured out, before he was put to death in his own flesh, so he could be made alive in spirit in God's kingdom, about the resurrections to come?

Those of the flesh had a legal question about the spirit world to come? What was going to happen if a woman had a number of husband seven to be exact in this life on earth under God's physical kingdom of Israel, what was going happen in the real kingdom of God Christ spoke to? Which one of those husband, would she be married to?

Luke 20:27 Some of the Sadducees came to him, those who deny that there is a resurrection.

Luke 20:33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them will she be? For the seven had her as a wife."

Luke 20:35 But those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage.

Luke 20:36 For they can't die any more, for they are like the angels, and are children of God, being children of the resurrection.

John 5:29 and will come out; those who have done good, to the resurrection of life; and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment.

None! No not one husband, what? No sex, no fun in the flesh? My, my, what a boring place. Christ stated what those would be like in the resurrection, like what? Angels, spirit being, I wonder what type of eyes angels have? Can spirit eyes see incorruptibility and yet live? Obviously, yes! Just as our own eyes should not see the Sun long without blindness, but if they we were made from the same substance as the Sun we could look longing at the Sun, and forever!

Outside the Kingdom of God

How was Adam in God's kingdom? How was Christ in God's kingdom while on earth? How are we in God's kingdom on earth? If we can answers those simple questions honestly, and without prejudice of an agenda we can clear up this whole subject.

John. 17:23 I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me.

Christ is the kingdom of God for us, when we are in Christ his life, we are in God's kingdom. There may be darkness all about us in this world, but we are in the light. Yes, there can be weeping and gnashing of the teeth around us by religious folk as they us false religion like play doe to uphold unreality doctrines, but nevertheless, we are still in God's kingdom if we are in Christ the light. Outside, would ten mean any person not being in Christ that does not need to be a physical location that one goes to! Just as we don't need to go to a physical place to be in the truth. Christ is the truth, and we are in truth when ever we are in Christ, its that simple if God has anointed us.

Ephesians 2:6 and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared before that we would walk in them.

Ephesians 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off are made near in the blood of Christ.

Those outside of Christ can mentally know the kingdom of God; knowing that it is a paradise of love, God's love where evil does not exist, but they cannot cross over into it, because they love the glory of men in the flesh more than the glory of God in Spirit and truth whom they cannot see. They have been so busy in this short life promoting themselves and their teachings, not thinking; we are not god's, but servants of God and should be faithful to our headship they take themselves out of the light of Christ into another good news for a mundane glory to praise of themselves on earth. They must compare themselves and measure themselves by other men of flesh whom teach and boast in the flesh.

They simply want to be important in this life, and ever word coming from their mouth heart is promoting how good, and wonderful they are grasping for some credit to gain power over others. That power is gained by knowledge of Christ found in our bibles. That power has unrighteously been used to entrap so many men of the flesh whom build vast empire of control, by what? The teaching of Christ whom set people free, from what? The corruption of the flesh, by his own righteousness. That righteousness does not work to build a kingdoms on this earth that he will come down and inhibit with his incorruptible life, so every eye can see him physically. Not even God did that for his own Son in the flesh!

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old things have passed away. Behold, all things have become new.

Revelation 21:5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words of God are faithful and true."

Daniel. 2:44 In the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.
2:45 Because you saw that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God has made known to the king what shall happen hereafter: and the dream is certain, and its interpretation sure.

Free is freedom in Christ because Christ killed the power of all flesh in his incorruptible life. If all we do is worry about our works good or bad we are not helping others because we don't know the freedom in Christ. We are thinking about our own salvation how to obtain in by works good and bad, that is, by gaining merit in this life to be justified in our flesh. Which if your in Christ has been given us freely so we can share the same fee gift with others.

That is the message of the bride of Christ in Spirit and truth. Freedom of the Spirit that is where the Lord is! We can rest assured every good gift is from above, nothing we need, now or in the future is lacking in Christ. So what will happen when Christ takes complete control of life on this earth? Good, only good.

All idols must go, it does matter how we can justify words about our doctrinal teaching or thoughts if they are not found in the freedom of Christ they are an idol stealing Christ glory. Now please stop and ask a very power question? Does the Spirit need our justification?

Yes, or no! Absolutely not! Man cannot justify God, we have no need to justify what cannot be justify by corruption, that is, us in our flesh. We are justified in Christ life, not the other way around. Using words from our bibles does not justify our teaching or us, it is the life of Christ that has justified us once for all time, there is nothing beyond that, nothing, higher to obtain too in heaven or on earth.

It is the Spirit in Christ, if we are actually in him that teaches us, the truth of what? Not a trick question the Spirit teach us about the Spirit, the things of the Spirit, why? Because God is Spirit, and so is his Son. It is the contact with that Spirit that was lost, it is at that point death and corruption entered into our world. That issues of two worlds is separated by different rules of the flesh, and rules of Spirit just as our Sun is far from this earth for life, and is not evil. We constantly feel it in our live the effects of our Sun on earth we simply can't get around that truth. we are in Christ as are truth, we constantly feel and teach the effects of his life in us. But have we separated by two rules/laws. Where the flesh is in a constant state of taking everything fleshly and trying to bring it into the Spirit to make it seem more important? The Spirit kills our flesh so nothing of its power can be in the Spirit corruption cannot inherit incorruptions.

It is simply impossible because flesh and blood, that is, corruption cannot inherit, or know the things of Spirit. The flesh personifies the flesh, it makes it a god, it makes flesh all important, and puts God last by making him into flesh and blood, corrupting him on earth by false teaching for the god of the flesh to be equal in thinking and feelings.

Heb. 5:5 So also Christ didn't glorify himself to be made a high priest, but it was he who said to him, "You are my Son. Today I have become your father."{Psalm 2:7}

It is the Spirit that is truth, not words chained together in our bibles or because we stated something from our bibles, it is he effects of the Spirit that is truth in us, a truth that is living because Christ is our life, the incorruptible life of God.

1 John 5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
Much will yet be revealed as Christ incoming kingdom come to earth in Spirit and truth, not incoming for us, (God's anointed) we have received that unshakable kingdom if we are in Christ. But incoming for those not knowing the Christ, when he shake all the earth, and the heavens, those in it who look to heaven, that is, the earthly ruling powers as their god's in the flesh for salvation and stability.

Heb.4:12 For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and is able to discern the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
4:13 There is no creature that is hidden from his sight, but all things are naked and laid open before the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God. If it begins first with us, what will happen to those who don't obey the Good News of God?

That Spirit of truth has been at work in God's anointed two thousand's years refining like a fire removing any fleshly thoughts (dross) raised up against the truth, the Spirit, in Christ as the king of kings, we should know that, and we should know how every eye will see Christ, if we are patterned after the first born of this new creation?

Malachi. 4:1 "For, behold, the day comes, it burns as a furnace; and all the proud, and all who work wickedness, will be stubble; and the day that comes will burn them up," says Yahweh of Armies, "that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 4:2 But to you who fear my name shall the sun of righteousness arise with healing in its wings. You will go out, and leap like calves of the stall.

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
2Pet.3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

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