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Judge What is Righteous

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.
7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

We have the equation right before us, lets uses it; if we measure out judgment what will it equal? Our own judgment! But do we have the profound depth of Christ statement? Shouldn't Christ words be enough to give us pause, creating in us just a little fear and hesitation about judging?

John 7:24 Don't judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

Will, honestly? Not for 99.9 percent of Christian's it is their life's blood to judge, it's the only thing they have to separated themselves from the unclean world. It is to them like drinking the waters of life, waters that permeates ever living cell of thought and fiber of their so called “new personality” which they teaches and speaks about nothing else?

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

However, God tells those professing to be Christian's, whom claim to love Him by the Holy Spirit that; no good thing dwells in our flesh, so looking at the no good thing in our brothers eye, by the no good thing in our own flesh, measure out more of the no good things in us , correct? We don't get good back, but the bad found in our own flesh (sin); more of the no good things found in our own flesh!

Rom.7:8 But sin, finding occasion through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of coveting. For apart from the law, sin is dead.

Rom.7:10 The commandment, which was for life, this I found to be for death;

So what is the point of judging if it does nothing more then produce more of the no good things in our flesh? Have we gotten it yet? The new covenant is not about our flesh, nor were the words spoken ( Matthew Seven under the old covenant) Christ wasn't speaking under the new covenant which hadn't yet been instituted by the righteous blood of Christ Jesus, who hadn't been slaughter as our passover lamb for our sins? Christ is speaking these words to those under the old covenant, those under the old law, a basic teaching that Christian's ought to know, right?

Heb. 4:1 Let us fear therefore, lest perhaps anyone of you should seem to have come short of a promise of entering into his rest.

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Once the old covenant was completed in Christ these words are meaningless about judging, because our flesh is dead in Christ (The flesh was under the old law judgment), that is, our no good things in our flesh (sin); the new covenant is without flesh, so judging the flesh is what? Pointless, dead works, of no value at all, something that cannot please God. So why are so many Christian's knocking themselves out with judging the very thing that can't please God, when they live to please God, and are trying so hard to be acceptable to him?

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

So is this the whole summation of our religion? Fixing, judging the no good things in brothers and sisters flesh? Can that flesh be made clean and righteous a better flesh upon earth to served God? Is God will please with those actions by us, or do they prove false to the power of Christ himself?

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

2Tim. 3:5 holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof. Turn away from these, also.

What Is Clean?

What is clean? Shouldn't that be an important question because judge the flesh of our brothers and sisters isn't it for that very purpose to make them cleaner Christian's in the flesh. So what is clean? Is it washing our flesh, is that what God means when saying clean (sanctified)? Is it about our clothes, our thoughts, our homes, our tongues, what is clean?

If no good things dwells in our flesh was it clean in the first place before God? Then why isn't their something in our flesh that is good and/or “clean” something that can be clean up, to make us a better flesh? So why judge others in the flesh thinking it is righteousness, that is, cleanness?

If we are told by our bibles we can't do that then cleanness must mean something beyond our flesh if we have no good thing dwelling in our flesh, correct? Did the old law Christ was stating above clean up the flesh from sin? Well, if it could, why did Christ say: “whatever measure we measure out in judging we measure back to ourselves? He was speaking of the old law, not wordily laws, or something he was inventing. No! He was speaking the old law given to Moses at Matthew Seven.

Matt. 5:17 "Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill.
5:18 For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter{literally, iota} or one tiny pen stroke{or, serif} shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.

Now that should stop those thinking they our righteous before God or that they have rightful legal authority from God to judge the sins out of their brothers and sisters to bring them too more righteousness like themselves; if that's not truth, however, all they would bring upon their own head is more uncleanness of the flesh that cannot please God, correct?

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

Subsequently, at some point we must ask the vital question, what is clean before God; not what we think is clean by our judgments, correct? (that is judging by using the words from our bibles) We can't be clean in our flesh that is the whole point of law is it not? Moreover, the point Paul was making in Roman's was because no good things dwelt in his flesh, under that law, flesh can't made clean by judging it with the old law!

Rom. 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God. 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death

No Lie in Truth!

The truth of the law was blood of innocent victim, something innocent, a victim that did nothing to us, or against us must be killed to let us stand before God. But the innocent blood did not remove sins out of our no good things, our flesh (sin). It just allowed us to have a clean conscience before God, by the high price paid by a victim slaughter for our sin's!

Hebrews 9:22 According to the law, nearly everything is cleansed with blood, and apart from shedding of blood there is no remission.

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

So what is the point in judging our brothers flesh if we are not clean in our own flesh without God giving us a victim to clear/clean our conscience so we have a relationship with God from his own mercy? Nothing!

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Now here is a really serious question for all of so called Christian's whom are winged on the tit of judging as the foundation stone of Christ, who haven' t even taken the first baby step into Christ?

Why are they presenting themselves as guides, teachers of the light, when the light isn't in them but judgment? Why are they lavishing themselves with knowledge of dates, dead sea scrolls, prophesy, codes, signs, and wonder's of the heavens when they aren't even at the first basic teachings of foundation truth of Christ?

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

John 3:10 Jesus answered him, "Are you the teacher of Israel, and don't understand these things?

Moreover, why don't they care? How can they handle the truth, who is Christ, aright? How can they teach anything but what has been taught them,
; is a student above their teacher? How can they make a defense of the truth (Christ) dwelling in them, when judgment dwells in them from their no good flesh can't bring people to Christ but rather causes them to reject Christ?

John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, 'We see.' Therefore your sin remains.

What are the fruits on their tree?

Luke 8:15 That in the good ground, these are such as in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, hold it tightly, and bring forth fruit with patience.

John 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me.

There is also an audio recording of this subject at: http://jwsstraighttalk.squarespace.com/recordings-of-articals-on-jwss/