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The Rules of Biblical Laws

We as human live in societies that are created by laws, laws are the fabric of every society, much like drag nets that gather up good and bad fish without the nets of laws there would be no commerce, cities, schools, governments or the orderly function of nations themselves.

1 Samuel 12:24 Only fear Yahweh, and serve him in truth with all your heart; for consider how great things he has done for you.

We human are born into laws, and we die under laws, so we must of necessity think in laws. But for Christian's what are the rules of biblical laws, are they the same as the nations, is that the law of Christ, or the Royal law, or the perfect law of freedom? How do these laws fit within the confided of everyday law we all must live and exist in?

Ecclesiastes 7:13 Consider the work of God, for who can make that straight, which he has made crooked?

The Discipline

What is the discipline we as Christian's must follow to end up at the target we are shooting for when reading our bibles with its many laws and judgments? In other words, a discipline forms a person into something for a useful purposes, an occupation that requires high standards of conduct of morally, ethically, and legally rights.

What is the calling of Christian's to Christ, what is their occupation among the nations of our world? What rule of law forms Christian's into the light of our world?

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and don't sell it. Get wisdom, discipline, and understanding.

If we are, as so many do, who take all laws of the nations into a hodgepodge of thoughts and ideas teachings and stating they are Christian's laws then we must answer the primary question of the Christian faith? How are we no part of this world, while using all the laws of this world?

1 John 3:13 Don't be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.

1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world.

Thus, how are we the light to the world, the salt to this world if we are the same as the world? We must understand the fabric of the world is its laws, they are the fundamental elements we are told as Christian's by Holy Spirit that will at the end of this world hiss as if by fire at Christ coming, are we as the body of Christ to hiss with the world's elements?

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

So our discipline as Christian's must by the very tenants of faith be different than the worlds inferior laws that will melt and hiss at coming of Christ or we ourselves are the world!

1 Peter 1:7 that the proof of your faith, which is more precious than gold that perishes even though it is tested by fire, may be found to result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ--

So what is our rule of law, the discipline if you will that Christian's must follow to be on mark in Christ at the coming of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus? We must ask a question to separate our thinking from the darkness of this world to elevate our thoughts into the light of Christ to answer that fundamental truth of our faith?

Colossians 3:2 Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are on the earth.

The question is, when does love become a law, or a rule? Can we honestly answer that question? When we are made to obey, to do something against our will that is an obligation by defination, it is not the love of God. Now we did not say its not the standard love of mankind of this world. No! What we stated its not the love of God, what God standard of being full grown in Christ means for us Christian's.

Ephesians 4:15 but speaking truth in love, we may grow up in all things into him, who is the head, Christ;

The love of the world is to make a person do good until their personality changes into that type of thinking for their betterment. But is that how Christian's should think and practice as so many do? Is God taking free will people and making them through various means of law, rules, and commandments love him, and obey him?

Ephesians 5:2 Walk in love, even as Christ also loved you, and gave himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling fragrance.

Is this the precious faith refined as if by fire Christ has reserved in heaven for those loving him? That he like the inferior material of the nations is forcing his followers to beat their swords into implements of farming, making them slaves to his kingdom, is that the love of the Son's kingdom the bible speaks to?

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

Love The Fulfillment of The Law

Love fulfills the law, a fundamental truth of our bibles. Christian's often repeat those words but they have little understanding of them, or how love fulfilled the law? Moreover, they often make strong assertion about those words to reprove others with them, but why so much ignorance over a simple truth?

Colossians 3:14 Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection.

The unwitting ignorance for so many Christian's is they have lump all laws of obligation, the standard of this world into law of love founded in the new covenant, the law of Christ.

1 John 4:8 He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.

We must as Christian's delineate between light and darkness we cannot delineate light from darkness, when we start with the laws of darkness we must end up in darkness. We must start with light to expose darkness to define the darkness by the light!

John 9:39 Jesus said, "I came into this world for judgment, that those who don't see may see; and that those who see may become blind."

We know, Christ is the fulfillment of the law, but how did he fulfill it? Darkness says, it was done legally by Christ obeying the legal tenants of the law, light says, it was fulifilled by Christ love for his Father. The truth says, love fulfills the law!

John 8:42 Therefore Jesus said to them, "If God were your father, you would love me, for I came out and have come from God. For I haven't come of myself, but he sent me.

John 15:9 Even as the Father has loved me, I also have loved you. Remain in my love.

John 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. But because you are not of the world, since I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

Without this simple, beautiful, and profound truth of Christ own heart the bible becomes little more then a moral obligation and nothing more which thoughts that falls far short of God's own glory which need not be stated for those loving the truth, God is love, that is, God's glory is love! Nothing less than God's glory could have fulfill the law.

Romans 13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet,"{TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"}{Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21} and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}

The standard was set by God's love in creating Adam in his own images. The mark of love, God's glory, was missed by Adam, he sinned, in sin he was no longer God's glory, i.e., in God's image, love!

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

Christ hit the mark of God's glory, that is, love for his Father and fulfilled the law taking Adam's position as the father to the human race. Thus, all those in Christ must be perfected in love, to be sinless, to reflect perfect light to our world.

Matthew 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Hebrews 5:9 Having been made perfect, he became to all of those who obey him the author of eternal salvation.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

The inferior materials of this world founded in each fiber of legislating love for neighbor into ones heart by religion, government, and commerce will hiss at Christ coming as a counterfeit faith not the precious faith refined as if by fire.

Let us understand where biblical law is leading God's people, and where worldly laws started so we can stay on mark in our precious faith.

The Love of God

Adam missed the mark of perfect love for his Father YHWH. Adam loved a creation rather than the creator - his wife.

He exchanged the glory of God, love, for a creation, denying the love of God in his life instead he worship and gave glory to a person, in this case his wife.

Romans 1:23 and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

All those conceived in sin from sin, Adam, missed the mark of love, and fall short of God's glory. Mankind is no longer created in God's glory (love), a lie that religion teaches so human's will put faith in men as God's glory upon this earth.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Knowing the good of God's love (everlasting life), and the bad of sin, that is, death, at work in mankind from sin whom fall short of God's glory of being sinless, which means Adam having no sin at first, but later sinned so all humans now perish in death. Death being evil (death), as God's last enemy.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.

Laws of judgment is part and partial of being conceived in sin, judgment is the nature of sin in us. For us to judge what is good (life) and evil (death). Before sin such judgment was not known or needed for mankind, that is, Adam, because he was perfect found on the mark created in God own image, which is love.

1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God loved us in this way, we also ought to love one another.

1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God remains in us, and his love has been perfected in us.

That is why all laws dealing with flesh, in sin, are called sins laws. That is a biblical fundamental truth we must delineate carefully with, or we add yeast of sin to Christ who is not a sinner, who is in God's own image (love) and cannot sin.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

1 John 3:5 You know that he was revealed to take away our sins, and in him is no sin.

Laws rightfully are God's standard for sin, but they are not for a sinless person. Now that is, someone created in God's own image, a person, like his Son's perfect love for the Father without sin. Love fulfills the law, God's love is found only in a person that is sinless, Christ is the only person that did not fall short of God's glory (love) while upon earth.

1 Peter 2:22 who did not sin, "neither was deceit found in his mouth."{Isaiah 53:9}

1Tim.1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

All laws created by fallen flesh, fallen flesh means in this case sin that lack God's glory (love) are inferior laws that must of necessity perish in Christ. To be righteous before God, which righteous means being right before God, one must be purchases from their sins from God's own love.

Perfection of mankind which Adam lost cannot come about by moral obligation, by rules, or laws, not even commandments, the law for all sin must be fulfilled in Christ who is God's love for us. That is why the bible tells us the law was but a shadow of the reality of God's love, Christ.

Rom.10:2 For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 10:3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God. 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

We mustn't as so many Christian's do hodgepodge laws of sin into Christ, such yeast permeates the whole lump, and all the kingdom representatives on this earth as Christ stated would happen; those stones of stumbling of necessity must come!

Luke 17:1 He said to the disciples, "It is impossible that no occasions of stumbling should come, but woe to him through whom they come!

Matthew 13:33 He spoke another parable to them. "The Kingdom of Heaven is like yeast, which a woman took, and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of meal, until it was all leavened."

Refining as if by Fire

The illusion, that is, the fancy of false religion detaches one from the reality of love of Christ which requires the refinement by fire that Christ stated all those belonging to him must undergo.

Matthew 20:22 But Jesus answered, "You don't know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?" They said to him, "We are able."

To read of something is not a reality, to dream and talk in speculative terms about an occupation is not a truth or reality. Truth/reality becomes wisdom when we live something, work at perfecting the occupation as a professional.

Matthew 3:12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his threshing floor. He will gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire."

Luke 3:16 John answered them all, "I indeed baptize you with water, but he comes who is mightier than I, the latchet of whose sandals I am not worthy to loosen. He will baptize you in the Holy Spirit and fire,

The truth of God, is for one to have the life of Christ indwelling, Christ then living in that person and through that person makes the perfection of faith a reality, by fire which makes that person in the way and the truth.

In other words, laws of the flesh are not in Christ, thus, trying to obey those laws does not perfect ones in faith. It perfect the flesh only to a lesser or greater degree, but the law of Christ is not of our flesh, or of this world. The law of Christ is first of all sinless (love), and of the Spirit.

Rom.8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

Rom.8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Christ fulfilled the law of God, and all laws of the flesh failing short of God's glory Christ in the law of love. That is, Christ love fulifilled the laws of sin for us, by his love for the Father. He freed us from what? The judgment of our flesh. Those in the flesh, or who measure themselves, Christ, and/or Jehovah God by laws of sin are deeply and profoundly mislead into darkness, away from the light of Christ.

There is no light in sin, there is no light in us if we are under laws for sin.

Luke 11:35 Therefore see whether the light that is in you isn't darkness.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.

Luke 12:3 Therefore whatever you have said in the darkness will be heard in the light. What you have spoken in the ear in the inner chambers will be proclaimed on the housetops.

Last Adam

For good and perfect reasoning Christ is called the last Adam who was the love of God for all the earth children that would come through him. However we Christian's so often fail to understand what the first Adam possessed as a gift from God, God's own love as his Father. Laws are not gifts they are obligation that impute evil to us because we all sin and fall short of God's glory, which God's glory means being sinless, like Adam was created in God's own love.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Adam did not need God's law for sinners, which was the laws given to Moses much later. Adam did not need the laws of the nations, why? Because Adam was created without sin in God's own love.

That is, he was perfect in God's love, the law was only for sinners, not those that are going to become sinners at some point in the future whom were now without sin. No! One must have laws if they are a sinner right now, law that came into existence from the first lie (good and evil from sin), laws that judge good and evil. God was not from his love imputing sin to Adam before he sinned that thinking is from darkness, not the perfect light of love! That was the devils thoughts that had already made himself evil by his lust for power and glory.

Once love was gone there was nothing left, but vast darkness a void that had once been filled with light (God's own love). There nothing as some think and teach in between darkness and light but an illusion, a lie of where the devils and wicked spirit son's of God live to mislead and are being mislead in.

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Those Christian's in between the light and darkness are the most mislead, they are false to both, and have fidelity to none, but their own thinking like Satan that thought in his pride he was God and deserved to pervert the love of God into corruption for the human race.

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

So to, are those Christian's that add yeast of darkness into the sinless life of Christ who fulfilled the law from his love that Adam should and could have done.

Born Again

Why be born again if one is born into the same old laws of this world? Those birthed into Christ are born free of sin by God's love, by God's own unmerited kindness because God's glory is love, and without being sinless one could never come to know the love of Christ for his Father that fulfilled the law for us.

1 John 4:16 We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.

Why could a person not be born again by the commandments of God, why could a person not reach perfection of love by commandments? Subsequently, why do so many believe and try among Christian's to meet a mark of love by laws created for the sinners that impute evil and not love for fellow man?

1 John 4:20 If a man says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who doesn't love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?

1 John 4:21 This commandment we have from him, that he who loves God should also love his brother.

Well, first off, in sin a person cannot be right with God, or stand in his presents. So to define God by laws created for sinners is a foolish attempt at best!

Such thinking is called fleshly thinking because all flesh sins and falls short of God's glory. One must define and come to know God by the law of love, for God is love. Those making themselves a god by deciding which laws they chose to know and define God by are deeply mislead by self-idolization through corruption of sin. Sin is self-idolization.

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

Secondly, the new creation is without sin, because the new creation is not of man's will, or Adams sins, or thinking. The new creation is Christ from his love and thinking. He came to earth at God's will out of love for his Father and mankind, he was murdered by those under law whom imputed evil of darkness to Christ. However, God out of his love raised him into a new being, one that is incorruptible making him the eternal life to all that are found in Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old things have passed away. Behold, all things have become new.

Born again is born into a new lump, without yeast of fleshly human sin found under laws for sinners. In Christ is without sin the new creation is Christ and his body members all them are created in God's image as Adam had been.

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;

Ephesians 4:24 and put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.

Now while upon earth in their flesh they must endure in the laws of the flesh being judged by the very nature of sin in them of good and evil, while at the same time living in Christ under his law of love, causing fire test, a refinement by fire. In this judgment not of God's love, but of the world's hate and darkness which flesh is in captivity to sin, the sin Adam produced causing a void of God's love engulfing all creation into darkness the new creation must suffer in for righteousness sake. For the sake of Christ who is their righteousness, his light of sinless life in them. They are not suffering for the righteousness of any laws of the flesh including the law of Moses.

1 Corinthians 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

Ephesians 4:24 and put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.

Philippians 1:11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

They are the light, the target of all darkness dwelling on earth, but love cannot fail that is their truth the christ in them. It is not truth of religion, written word, laws, or any commandment that they love their Father, they are the light, and the love of God indwells them by Spirit - the Christ!

John 7:24 Don't judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

They are not a theory, or a fancy thought up from dreaming about what God is or isn't? They are reality not of this world or known by this world, for they are not of this world or its laws for sinners.

If one does not know love, neither do they know Christ brothers, if one judges what is God's love by laws of evil for sinners, they are not of God.

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

1 John 3:13 Don't be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.

God is no part of this world, he sent his love (Christ) to this world that they might come to know God's love.

But he did not make it a commandment without love to make nations serve him. Such a premises is a lie told by Satan, such a lie is from the heart of evil, like the world and its history of force submission to government, religion, and commerce reflecting in the personality of the Father of the lie.

John 8:44 You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn't stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and its father.

We have two perfect pictures that we should know God's love by, Adam created in a beautiful paradise, and the picture of perfect prettiness found in the heart, soul, and mind of our father Christ Jesus, thus, the creation testifies of God's love.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse.

Let us be soberly mindful of our judging by less then truth and Spirit, let us not impute evil, sin, to God, Christ Jesus, or his body members, for such will blind us to the wonderful love of God own personality.

Carefully considering the biblical laws of our bible and there application to where, when, and who they apply? Let us have the mind of Christ, not the mind found in commandments, or rules, for that flesh no longer exist in Christ let our teaching be that of God's Spirit in the law of love that fulfills all laws for sin.

Let us not terry long in the flesh, for its is not eternal, but momentary and perishing.