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The Power of The Lie!

What is the power of the lie? Well, your looking at it, our flesh. Yes we can blame an external object or two, the Devil, the wicked spirit forces, or we can believe that all men are liars because all are conceived in sin from the first lie!

Now we have a profound stunning statement from God Himself, the power of the lie is our flesh. So how can a person in their flesh, that is, their own power, find the truth?

Rom. 3:4 May it never be! Yes, let God be found true, but every man a liar. As it is written, "That you might be justified in your words, and might prevail when you come into judgment."{Psalm 51:4}

Compounding this dichotomy further if what's we are in is a lie, the flesh must live in without choice, what truth's are we really revealing? Is it something of an another person flesh, which is also a lie? Subsequently, if that is our truth are we not dealing with a perfect storm? That is, the blind leading the blind, what is the inevitable?

Luke 6:39 He spoke a parable to them. "Can the blind guide the blind? Won't they both fall into a pit?

Do we know why God stated the whole world is in he power of darkness, in the hands of the first lie teller Satan the Devil? Well, lets see, if we are conceived in sin, which is the first lie, then all flesh conceived in sin must be a lie, the lie cannot be the truth, can it?

Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who can't lie, promised before time began;

None of us are conceived in truth, now are we? No! We are all conceived in sin from the greatest to the smallest; all fall short of God's glory who is the truth, if its not truth, than it must be something less, a lie. Is that not the truth of our bibles, honestly without flattery?

Psalms 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity. In sin my mother conceived me.

Rom. 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.
3:11 There is no one who understands. There is no one who seeks after God.
3:12 They have all turned aside. They have together become unprofitable. There is no one who does good, no, not, so much as one."{Psalms 14:1-3; 53:1-3; Ecclesiastes 7:20}
3:13 "Their throat is an open tomb. With their tongues they have used deceit."{Psalm 5:9} "The poison of vipers is under their lips;"{Psalm 140:3}
3:14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness."{Psalm 10:7}
3:15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood.
3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways.
3:17 The way of peace, they haven't known."{Isaiah 59:7-8}
3:18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."{Psalm 36:1}

Conceived in Truth


Simple truths are wonderful are they not? If a weed is a weed, we don't think, or does it offended us when it produces more weeds, we just live with the facts, or our yard is overrun by weeds, correct?

Why would we think the flesh, the life we are in could know the truth if God says it can't? How can we love the truth, if the God of truth we disbelieve? Can we change our nature from being conceived in sin, the first lie, into believing by the mind of the same flesh that if we study enough we will know the truth?

Would we study weeds all the days of our life so that we could imagine we can change them into, lets, say wheat? I don't think so! But we are highly offended when someone tells us we cannot know the truth of God in our sins, that is, in our flesh.

1 John 3:6 Whoever remains in him doesn't sin. Whoever sins hasn't seen him, neither knows him.

So just what truth are we blurting out from our flesh? Moreover, what is truth? Well, there are truths of the flesh ( in its world of darkness) and in its actions on this earth by other fleshes judgment of the flesh, but that is not God's truth, nor God's judgment of our flesh, simply, because there is no truth of God in the lie, which would be our flesh, now is there?

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

1 John 2:21 I have not written to you because you don't know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth.

You see, context is everything when we speak of being conceived in truth, or being conceived in the lie (sin). Who then is the truth that we must be birthed into?

We know the lie ( the flesh) we all have been birthed into, sin, the first lie that Satan said the truth of God was not enough that more was needed to know “all the truth!” But do we know the truth?

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

So we now have a world that is a lie, under darkness, an illusion that is preached, taught, demanded, legislates into what we thinks is truth by gaining more knowledge as the only way one can know the truth, what a lie! The God's of truth says that is impossible to know Him by a lie, by the flesh, so what truth do we want know that is the real question? What is truth!

The Truth

There is no truth on earth, there is no repository of truth on earth that many claim and spend a life time searching for, but why? Well, it is a simple truth of God, corruption cannot produce incorruptibly which is God's truth that truth does not exist on earth for mankind to discover which of course leaves us humans in a pile of lies. The truth cannot come from lies.

In other words, if one puts truth into a polluted well, it will only produce more bad water, i.e., corruption. So putting truth into lies, it is still lies! We mustn't kid ourselves if we say we are a Christian.

James.3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?

Christ is the truth, he is not the lie, Christ is not of this world ( and for that reason Christ is the truth) because he can't live in darkness the lies. So when the bible tells us the spirit of error goes forth to where they believe the lie, it is not speaking to the flesh, the flesh of this world, which flesh is conceived in lies and lives in the lie and not the truth has never known the truth to get to believing the lie in the first place!

John 8:46 Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me?

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me.

Believing the lie is specifically speaking of those conceived into the truth out of sin of Adam, Christ Jesus (the truth), reborn into Christ whom are go back to the flesh causing the spirit of the flesh, the lie, to operated in them again.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie;

Proverbs 1:31 Therefore they will eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own schemes.

The flesh does not have the truth it can't that is the divine law of God who states that the flesh can't know God or please God. Thus, once Adam sinned the truth of God was lost. Hence, it has been through God's Spirit in one form or another throughout the ages of mankind that God has revealed Himself to humans, by His Spirit and in no other way.

2 Peter 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation.

2 Peter 1:21 For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke, being moved by the Holy Spirit.

The Jews, that is, the Israelite's where given many truths of God, in shadows to lead them to the truth, that is, the light of God, God's truth for us, Christ Jesus. It is only by being in Christ, his spirit life that we have the truth, why? Because the liar the flesh is dead in Christ so we can know the truth, the love of God.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

The power of the lie is dead in Christ, Christ overcame death, and Hades the place of the dead by his indestructible life the truth, so the truth has never been lost, only among those whom are perishing in the flesh,(death flesh not in the Spirit, life)

Rev.1:5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us, and washed us from our sins by his blood;

Rev. 1:18 and the Living one. I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. I have the keys of Death and of Hades{or, Hell}.

Those whom are falsely mislead into believing the lie, that truth of Christ ever exist on earth in some organization, and/or God is restoring the truth (Christ) through them are thoroughly deceived. God's truth is incorruptible, how can flesh in corruption destroy something incorruptible?

Truth has never been on earth unless God revealed it to humans. God is the source of truth, the first lie stated there was another truth outside of God which truth could come through a lesser source than God Himself, all that came has been a lie, and death!

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

God put away the sins of ouf flesh in Christ that means all the things of this world were defeated in Christ, do we get that? God then seated Christ as our king at his right hand. Our kingdom is not of this world, so there is no need to believe it can be found in fleshly organizations that must by nature produce more lies of God (weeds/yeast).

It is by the fruits one knows the truth does truth exist in any human group? Have we noted they all produce the fruits of the flesh to a lesser or greater degree, something that cannot know God, or does God uses. The mark is clear, not gray, its either light or darkness, its either the fruit of God incorruptible life or its not? It either of God or the Devil? The middle ground is the Devil's and the wicked spirits play ground where they live, so where must all false religion be?

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

Matt. 7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

Matt.3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.

We are raised and seated with Christ, we are not seat on earth with Christ, we are not part flesh and part Spirit of God, we are not light and than darkness being cleaned up to know the truth. We are in the truth freed of our flesh, so our sins of the flesh can't count against us, we have the truth, Christ Jesus, nothing more is needed. God given is not giving us more for our flesh on this earth that is a lie, God.

Col. 3:1 If then you were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.
3:2 Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are on the earth. 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 3:4 When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory.

One cannot says something is lacking in Christ, a lack of truth or love, one cannot say we need more lies from the flesh to make Christ better more like the world, and/or us. If we turn from our birth in Christ back to the world, that is, the flesh again it is darkness, so must all of our works in the flesh be darkness. Why turn back to the world, would it not be for gains of our flesh? For us to make a name, promote a business, a religion, if we do that we will get to believing the lie, because once we are out of Christ there is no truth anywhere else for us on earth, in books, colleges, religion, or otherwise nothing in the flesh, that is, the world has the power of Christ Incorruptible life to keep us from the lies of the fallen flesh. The whole world is deceived why would we imagine that we of ourselves is somehow better than the world if it is not pride of self-righteousness?

1 Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

2 Corinthians 10:4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the throwing down of strongholds.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

Ephesians 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Those in Christ must discern what it is, who it is that guards the truth in them, what power it is that keeps us in the truth, and what is of the Spirit, and what is of the flesh. The mixture of the two are toxic, it is the land of disillusionment, intoxication, fear, and darkness. It is the mixture of Babylon the Great's cup, it is the cup that makes the nations reel as a drunken sailor.

1 Corinthians 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ.

1 Corinthians 10:21 You can't both drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You can't both partake of the table of the Lord, and of the table of demons.

2 Corinthians 4:11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus may be revealed in our mortal flesh.

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

Colossians 3:4 When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory.

Hebrews 7:16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life:

1 Peter 1:5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

That is the test for God's children, its that simple, and that truth, we should carefully guard so we don't uses our freedom in Christ for gains in the flesh on this earth, for all is vanity in the flesh, all creation has been subjected to vanity, a mist of time as a flower. There is not a new truth coming from this earth's vanity, a new vanity to excite the flesh to mislead it even more, for there is nothing new under the Sun of this earth found in our flesh that will ever change or know God, so be wise!

1Cor.2:1 When I came to you, brothers, I didn't come with excellence of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the testimony of God.
2:2 For I determined not to know anything among you, except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

1Cor. 2:5 that your faith wouldn't stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

1Cor.2:7 But we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the wisdom that has been hidden, which God foreordained before the worlds for our glory, 2:8 which none of the rulers of this world has known. For had they known it, they wouldn't have crucified the Lord of glory.

1Cor.2:10 But to us, God revealed them through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

1Cor.2:14 Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

For we are awaiting a new heavens, a new earth, for those words are faithful and true. They are not of the old world, the old man, why live in the lie when we have the glorious freedom of truth in Christ Jesus?

1 Timothy 6:16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amen.

Philippians 3:10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death;

Colossians 1:11 strengthened with all power, according to the might of his glory, for all endurance and perseverance with joy;

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

Colossians 2:10 and in him you are made full, who is the head of all principality and power;

1 Thessalonians 1:5 and that our Good News came to you not in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit, and with much assurance. You know what kind of men we showed ourselves to be among you for your sake.

May 8, 2018 | Registered CommenterJWsStraightTalk