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The Mysteries of God

Humans have always been fascinated by mysteries there nothing more intriguing then a great mystery. It is grand and wonderful thing to unlock a mystery hardly is there anything more satisfying.

Luke 8:10 He said, "To you it is given to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of God, but to the rest in parables; that 'seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.'{Isaiah 6:9}

God has always been a mystery to mankind, and so has the spirit world. The history of mankind is replete with myths, gods, and goddess. Religion itself is called a great mystery for mankind, but has God always been a mystery to humans?

Not really, when Adam was created by a loving Father, Adam was his son, he had the closet relationship with his Father nothing he needed was lacking certainly not God's love for his son. You see, we often associate God with mysticism which creates an illusion that all in thought and discovery is OK because God is not real but a mystery.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

This type of thinking leavens a wide road that everyone can have a relationship with God based upon something mystical they have experienced in life, and/or even read about.

Religion on the other hands puts people into holding pens, curtailing the freedom of mystical thoughts by doctrines which they themselves become the mystery by co-opting the place of God on earth causing themselves to become mysterious to mankind.

Revelation 17:7 The angel said to me, "Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.

Why The Mystery?

There is no mystery in love simply because there is no agenda in love, there is a depth of God in love, but for those not having love it creates God into a mystery. But when we find that God is love, and love owes no one a single thing, but love, which that very statement rebuts any gain in love accept, love that is returned freely with no demanded.

Colossians 2:2 that their hearts may be comforted, they being knit together in love, and gaining all riches of the full assurance of understanding, that they may know the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ.

Subsequently, it is easy enough to connect the dots of when the mystery of God started in the history of mankind, and what causes us to think, all things God detached, i.e., a mystery!

The mystery is not God, the God of love, but sin, in us causing darkness in us which darkness cannot know God is love. From darkness comes fear and misinterpretation distrust of all things God. When one is in fear the fear drives our thoughts and our conclusion about what God is, who God is, and how he will respond to us as humans.

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

Gen.3:4 The serpent said to the woman, "You won't surely die,
3:5 for God knows that in the day you eat it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

In fear and darkness we don't have a relationship with him, we are indeed alienated from his love, thus, leading us down a wide road into mysticism that originates from various spirits person that are communicating with humans revealing so called hidden knowledge about God.

2 Corinthians 4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

The mystery is our flesh that can't know God, but insist it does by research, education, communication with lesser rebellious son's of God unseen by our flesh that are willing to teach some of mankind secret knowledge some true and some false perpetuating the mystery further.

1 Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons.

2 Timothy 1:7 For God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.

1Cor. 2:11 For who among men knows the things of a man, except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God, except God's Spirit.
1Cor.2:14 Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Grand Falsehood

As stated Adam for a short time knew God as love, as his Father, pure light, no hidden agenda. No hooks, no gotchas, no fear, but perfect knowledge and truth of God, and what is perfect knowledge of God? Love! Anything less than love is darkness, it is not God, but of our flesh, which, do to Adam sin, puts us into darkness so God tells us the flesh is a lie, and it cannot commune with Him or know Him let alone be in subjection to the God of love.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; and so death passed to all men, because all sinned.

John 3:6 Whoever remains in him doesn't sin. Whoever sins hasn't seen him, neither knows him.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Hence, we might add the flesh is nothing but agenda driven, the flesh always has motives for everything it practices under the Sun. However, the flesh deceives itself by its motives, it accounts its motives as pure and good towards others based upon its judgment of its own motives. Which is the most faulty of premises, being the flesh can't know God then how indeed can our motives be of God?

1 John 4:1 Beloved, don't believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

The flesh cannot know any more then what is in its own spirit and what it judges by its own spirit if it is good or bad? Something that has nothing whatsoever to do with God, or God's love. Let us be remained here the flesh is against God and alienated from God, because it is conceived into sin, and why all human's are dying disconnected from God.

Romans 13:14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, for its lusts.

Romans 9:8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

The Grandest of falsehood which mislead the human race from the beginning of sin that entered into our then spread to all mankind; is for us to think by reading words of God from our bibles, the written words of his prophets, the words recorded for us in the bible makes our motives pure in our flesh!

Proverbs 16:2 All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but Yahweh weighs the motives.

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, "I have made my heart pure. I am clean and without sin?"

Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one.

You see the mystery is in us, our flesh alienated in darkness from God, separating us from the light. Reading words from God does not change what can't be changed, sin! Adam once a sinner was always a sinner, he could not change by recording his past (before sinning) conversation he had with God, putting them upon stone, paper, animal skins, and then let him think he was no longer a sinner.

Haggai 2:12 'If someone carries holy meat in the fold of his garment, and with his fold touches bread, stew, wine, oil, or any food, will it become holy?'" The priests answered, "No."

It did not matter one wit what Adam's feelings were good or bad, he could not go back, and not be a sinner, nor could he return to God's work he had in the Garden paradise and live happily ever after.

The Devils Play Ground

The entire world is in darkness, thus, God would tell mankind why they are in darkness throughout the bible. It is because the world is Satan's world, alienated by him in darkness. God is the light, a light Satan and those in darkness cannot approach or know or see! That is the God of love, in his incorruptible love, corruption cannot know God.

1 Timothy 6:16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amen.

God does not dwell in the darkness, which is, corruption. Corruption means death by sin, not life by incorruptibility without sin. Nothing has changed on earth in that matter of sin, since Adam sinned. The rest is mankind own works produced by flesh that is alienated from God, far from the place of God's love, paradise. The worlds that is found in darkness translates Gods written word from a mind alienated from God, into a great mystery because it is still the same fallen flesh alienated from God in darkness. That flesh denies this truth for the middle ground between light and darkness, which means it can never come to the truth of God who is never in the middle ground, but the demons are whom are happy to communicate with human's through different types of spiritism!

James.1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

It is not a grand thing to be mislead fallen flesh when we are living in a vessel that is a lie found, and is in darkness, causing us death to God and eternal life! Satan does not have to do anything, we are corrupted from knowing the mind of God from our birth conceived in sin.

John 3:19 This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil.

John 11:10 But if a man walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light isn't in him."

The mystery is false religion (flesh) that teaches at its core that words from the bible changes the sin in us. Thus, boasting in the flesh that those words clean up our motives into something cleaner, and/or more purer than what is in the world of darkness.

The flesh has many desires, some good, and some bad, from the tree of good and evil, but all of it is still in sin. That is where the flesh is birth from. It is the knowledge good and evil that constantly and relentlessly deceives us into believing we can think and be like God if we have a knowledge of God from his written world.

John.5:38 You don't have his word living in you; because you don't believe him whom he sent.

John.5:39 "You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about me.
5:40 Yet you will not come to me, that you may have life.

It was knowledge that caused the first deception creating the fallen flesh. It is knowledge that keeps us in our flesh, making God into a mystery an unreality that we think we can pick and chose how we act and feel about God.

Simple Truth the Flesh Flatly Rejects!

In God, who is love there is no darkness. In other words, its good or bad to God, nothing is in between. If its good it is life, and love, but if its bad its darkness and evil, causing harm to eternal life.

God is light, and in God is no darkness, simple truth!
Can we say that about flesh, our flesh? Well, no, but we can and often lie to others about our motives. Thus, from that juncture nothing in us is good to God, and it can never be good no matter how much we regret it, or try to control it. Moreover, that is why the apostle Paul by Holy Spirit stated that nothing good dwelt in his flesh, it was a good for nothing thing, why it could not change but deceived him constantly that it could by works of law!

James.3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic.
3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.

To delude ourselves by our so called pure motive is a falsehood because we live in a lie, and if we loved truth,, we must be honest we don't often have pure motives. The reall truth is the flesh is hostile towards the Spirit (God) so it offends easily when someone question our motives.

James. 1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger; 1:20 for the anger of man doesn't produce the righteousness of God. 1:21 Therefore, putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with humility the implanted word, which is able to save your souls{or, preserve your life.}.

That is why, simply put false religion, which is our flesh is a great mystery! It lives in a lie, but uses God's word thus, labeling something unrighteous righteous by words. Nothing changes by word usages accept as a justification before other people living in the same fallen flesh.

We all justify our bad motives by our good ones, we all believe we can scrub them clean, making them pure by our actions in our flesh. Now that is a great mystery something not in God or accepted by God that we treat God and teach God like us found in corruption.

Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who can't lie, promised before time began;

Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for refuge to take hold of the hope set before us.

Christ the truth, said it was impossible for a corrupt tree to produce the works, ( good fruit) of God. Impossible! Adam could never undo his sin, the rest is speculation and human justification that tries to teach maybe he could! But Adam had become a corrupt tree, a tree God stated could never produce good fruit. Adam died in his sin, his fruit he past on are still dying in their sins. So spoke the truth, and who is the lie?

You see, repentance of sin does not make a person sinless, do know why it does not? Repentance leads us to God for forgiveness, for God to forgive us He must pay the price for our sins against Himself, but (in our sins) we have nothing repay him with, unless he states he wants something from us to pay the price for sin, but he does not! (love gives freely) Why? Because we are a corrupt tree there is nothing in a corrupt tree God wants or needs, do we get it?

Matt.7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

God gives us a gift of life, He paid the price, but that alone did not remove our sins! God's blocks out sin by the price paid for transgression. But a person still is a sinner there is no getting around that sin we are conceived in sin from Adam the corrupt tree.
Adam could have repented, but still he is a sinner, he could never go back into the paradise of God's love, perfect light, and truth. For Adam was darkness, sin and death against all that is life and God.

So just as Christ stated the truth that a corrupt tree can never produce good fruit that is a fundamental truth that our flesh flatly rejects. The flesh can hardly believe that good spring can't produce salt water, but it at least sounds a little more reasonable to the fleshly mind. But on the other hand, the flesh can't understand at all why a corrupt tree can't produce good fruit of God it totally miss the truth of darkness and light because the flesh is in darkness and cannot know God. Moreover, it thinks it posses the power of its own will to do so.

But still flesh misses the truth of God in that statement of the good spring does not issues fresh and salt water when applying it to itself in the flesh. God is not encouraging us that we can change our nature of our fallen flesh. He is stating through James the truth of himself. God is the one spring He is the only one that cannot change into something different, evil to us, not us? God is telling us about our wicked and deceitful nature found in our hearts and spoken by our tongue.

We bless and curse human's made in God's own image with the same tongue due to we live in darkness thinking God does the same?

James.3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?
3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.

The Mystery of False Religion Gone In Christ

Christ is the truth not because we researched God out! Christ is the truth, he is truth because he is like God, love. We have no doubt in that if we believe our bibles.

Heb.1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds.
1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
So the mystery of God ends in Christ because Christ love fulfilled what Adam lost. Those alienated from God can be reunited with him in Christ. It is the lack of love inherent in our fallen flesh causing us the mystery of God.

1Cor. 2:6 We speak wisdom, however, among those who are full grown; yet a wisdom not of this world, nor of the rulers of this world, who are coming to nothing.
2:7 But we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the wisdom that has been hidden, which God foreordained before the worlds for our glory,
2:8 which none of the rulers of this world has known. For had they known it, they wouldn't have crucified the Lord of glory.
2:9 But as it is written, "Things which an eye didn't see, and an ear didn't hear, which didn't enter into the heart of man, these God has prepared for those who love him."{Isaiah 64:4}
2:10 But to us, God revealed them through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

False religion is flesh conceived into sin. From that place of sin all one can know about God must be transliterated from the filter of our fallen flesh, digested by our flesh, which is the lie, the lies that spread yeast which is produced by all false religion into the Great Mystery of Babylon the Great the world wide empire of false religion.

Rev.17:3 He carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-colored animal, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns.
17:4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of the sexual immorality of the earth.
17:5 And on her forehead a name was written, "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
Nothing man has ever done can allow him to say: “I can know God from my own nature.” For Adam did not create himself as if he was a god. The disconnect is in our flesh that thinks it can change its own nature by its own good motives.

Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may you also do good, who are accustomed to do evil.

Jeremiah 10:23 Yahweh, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man who walks to direct his steps.

God must create us new, God is not reforming the old yeast of sin into a new lump, no! God is giving us a new life, a new spirit, a new heart and an new mind. God is faithful to his word, it cannot change a corrupt tree into a good tree producing sinless fruit.

Revelation 21:5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words of God are faithful and true."

Matt.7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit. 7:19 Every tree that doesn't grow good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

How does a man make himself new, and what if he thinks he has helped in his new birth into a new life by something of his good motives found in sin, has he not corrupted the whole lump of Christ?

Romans 11:18 don't boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you.

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who makes you different? And what do you have that you didn't receive? But if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

He has not created anything new! Isn't that the issues at stake here? Adam could have stay in life if he loved God, and gave God back love, having no agenda. Conversely, what if Adam like Satan thought that he could do something from himself as a god to live separate from God's love, he die?

2 Corinthians 4:6 seeing it is God who said, "Light will shine out of darkness,"{Genesis 1:3} who has shone in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:12 giving thanks to the Father, who made us fit to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light;

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

2 Peter 3:13 But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

The whole issues is life, only one is good, only one good tree, only one spirit, only one seed, only one unity. What is the message if its not the same from the beginning?

1 John 2:8 Again, I write a new commandment to you, which is true in him and in you; because the darkness is passing away, and the true light already shines.

We must die in our flesh, be dead, and raised in a new into life, Christ life, where the mystery of the flesh ends.

Hebrews 10:20 by the way which he dedicated for us, a new and living way, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

1 John 3:1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn't know us, because it didn't know him.

1 John 3:11 For this is the message which you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;

Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new man, who is being renewed in knowledge after the image of his Creator.

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.