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Crucified In Christ
1 Corinthians 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified; a stumbling block to Jews, and foolishness to Greeks.

When a person is put to death by a government is that person anymore a part of this world, or are they a memory to this world?

Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in Sheol, where you are going.

Does this world and all of it systems of things work for a dead person any longer? Do people wonder, and fret that a dead person rights are being violated by this world? Are they making sure they have medical insurance, paid holidays, housing and the necessity of this life?

Psalms 115:17 The dead don't praise Yah, neither any who go down into silence;

Ecclesiastes 8:8 There is no man who has power over the spirit to contain the spirit; neither does he have power over the day of death. There is no discharge in war; neither shall wickedness deliver those who practice it.
Well, no! The person is dead to this world, and the laws of this world the dead person is found in God's hands, not people on this earth. This earth and all of its laws cannot touch or affect a dead person any longer!

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead don't know anything, neither do they have any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Simply put, they do not belong to this world, but to another world provided we believe another world exist?

It was once said by a famous trader on wall street that he could take children and train them to trade and they would do far better than a professional in his training program because the child when they failed just said OK and tried again. While those who were professional were devastated by their losses and mistakes because they were a professional that didn't make mistakes!

Mark 10:15 Most certainly I tell you, whoever will not receive the Kingdom of God like a little child, he will in no way enter into it."

Philippians 3:13 Brothers, I don't regard myself as yet having taken hold, but one thing I do. Forgetting the things which are behind, and stretching forward to the things which are before.

The point is that the simplest truths that a child could

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understand a professional Christian has complicated so badly that the simple truth of being crucified in Christ is no longer a teaching of Christianity or does it even connect for most Christian's in what it means to be crucified in Christ, and why we are no longer any part of this world?

2 Corinthians 13:4 For he was crucified through weakness, yet he lives through the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we will live with him through the power of God toward you.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.

Crucifixion, an important method of capital punishment particularly among the Persians, Seleucids, Carthaginians, and Romans from about the 6th century BCE to the 4th century CE. Constantine the Great, the first Christian emperor, abolished it in the Roman Empire in the early 4th century CE out of veneration for Jesus Christ, the most famous victim of crucifixion.
John 17:16 They are not of the world even as I am not of the world.
If One is Dead They Aren't Part of This World

If a person is Crucified in Christ are they alive to this worlds, and all the ways this world functions, or not? Moreover, can a dead person affect his or her world that they have died to?
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Is Christ now building a new world on this earth, or is he no part of this world and has created a new heavens and will created a new earth?

Revelation 21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more.

Revelation 21:5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words of God are faithful and true."

These are hard and profound questions for almost all Christian's are they not? But they are not for a child who believes the instruction so clearly given them by a loving Father YHWH that just believe and act upon them.

Luke 18:16 Jesus summoned them, saying, "Allow the little children to come to me, and don't hinder them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Eccl.7:29 Behold, this only have I found: that God made man upright; but they search for many schemes.

You see we complicate things because we want things of this world, and that is why we complicate things. Thus, we created an acceptable form of worship that we can live with, and it that acceptable form of religious worship we find all the problems of this world in because we have just made are religion part of this world and all of its problems.

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James. 4:1 Where do wars and fightings among you come from? Don't they come from your pleasures that war in your members? 4:2 You lust, and don't have. You kill, covet, and can't obtain. You fight and make war. You don't have, because you don't ask. 4:3 You ask, and don't receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it for your pleasures. 4:4 You adulterers and adulteresses, don't you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Then we are devastated when it fails us, and it always does, but still we blame God, because by this time we have been thoroughly mislead by our own form of worship which we can no longer separate truth from fiction about God because our emotions, wants, and needs have created a false god.

James.1:22 But be doers of the word, and not only hearers, deluding your own selves. 1:23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror; 1:24 for he sees himself, and goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does.
1:26 If anyone among you thinks himself to be religious while he doesn't bridle his tongue, but deceives his heart, this man's religion is worthless.

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So lets state the truth, Christ is no part of this world, and if we are crucified in Christ we are no part of this world, which means none of this world will work for a dead person that has died to this world.

Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

The world can't work for a person that is physical dead to this world, and it certainly won't for those that are crucified in Christ; there is no acceptation to this truth!

If there is an acceptation it is a lie, and the truth is not in us.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's.

1 John 2:17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

Confounding Human Logic

That which should be dead to this world is our old life, it had to died in Christ for us to be raised in Christ so we are a part of his Spirit life in heaven. That death is as real as a physical death, it not a metaphor.
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It is only in that state of death that we are raised out of death in our life into a new life, that is, in Christ life there and then we have eternal life indwelling us.

John 10:28 I give eternal life to them. They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

John 12:25 He who loves his life will lose it. He who hates his life in this world will keep it to eternal life.

It is profound and everlasting change that affects every thing in our life the way we think and do in every thing we now live for, which is, Christ and his life.

Philippians 3:13 Brothers, I don't regard myself as yet having taken hold, but one thing I do. Forgetting the things which are behind, and stretching forward to the things which are before.

What is left of our old life is bad, trash that has been thrown out with the garbage.

Philippians.3:8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ.

In fact, some translators have render our old-self as after birth.
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In other words, let get the point and the power of what death is in our flesh. 1.) it of no value at all! 2.) it
not something being lavished and reformed 3.) It not something we long for and remember and cherish and brag about, it is dead, it is unseemly, it something we are to be ashamed of.

Rom. 6:21 What fruit then did you have at that time in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 6:22 But now, being made free from sin, and having become servants of God, you have your fruit of sanctification, and the result of eternal life.

Thus, those in Christ that have been crucified are raised into a new life, not of their own making, or choice in, or can they refine it by developing by good manners, works, or acceptance to what the world thinks a child of God is or shouldn't be.

Conversely, what is in Christ mind is not of this world, nor does Christ mind think at all like this world. His mind is one-hundred and eighty degrees the opposite of this world's, its thinking, and its systems. In other words, here is the bitter biblical truth that most Christ find hard to swallow Christ is not working to make this a better world, he is saving us out of this world and he is going to end this world just like he has crucified our flesh and ended it!

Ephesians 2:8 for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God.
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Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

And it for that reason after Christ died and was raised into the eternal Spirit that each one of his followers changed from the thinking of this world into new people that most of us can hardly understand or recognized as the same person which all of the apostles experienced.

Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new man, who is being renewed in knowledge after the image of his Creator.

Many try hard to tied them to their old flesh of the apostles that was put to death, that is, crucified in Christ to belittle and feed on their human mistake found in that old dead flesh, which somehow makes them a better person, but God doesn't know them any longer in that old dead state all one is really doing is digging up a dead corpus to pick on an imperfections. By looking at a sickness and death corrupted by this world and sin so they can prove themselves righteous as a judge of the dead, not the living!

Ephesians 4:24 and put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old things have passed away. Behold, all things have become new.

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So we say as Christ said to them let the dead bury the dead they have no affect on anything that is being done under the Sun on earth any longer!

The Cry For Justice!

There is a cry going forth throughout our world into every nations of people, this cry has always been there, but of late it is reaching a crescendo. That cry is over injustice, an injustice of why some groups can break the law and they get a free ride while another group are hated and destroyed because of a word that offend the group breaking the laws?

Proverbs 30:11 There is a generation that curses their father, and doesn't bless their mother.

Proverbs 30:12 There is a generation that is pure in their own eyes, yet are not washed from their filthiness.

Proverbs 30:13 There is a generation, oh how lofty are their eyes! Their eyelids are lifted up.

This feeling of lawlessness is pervasive throughout all societies creating instability and violence. The human mind cannot understand two sets of justices, it can't understand how ones are held accountable to a perfect degree, and others are not because of their political views?

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The same truth is found in those that are crucified in Christ they just can't understand two sets of justices one for the world and one for them.

However, the simple truth alludes them because they are using the cardinal mind to solve problems of this world, which are dead in Christ.

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

2 Corinthians 4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

Thus, we are going to state some truths, not facts, based upon human logic, but rather truths that cannot be changed by any human acceptance or reasoning.

Number 1.) we are part of this world or we are not? 2.) if we are in Christ crucified in our flesh this world does not know us, true or false?

Number 3.) if we are crucified in Christ the world does not work for us because we are dead to it, true or false? 4.) if it is true that we are no part of this world than that is why the sheep and goats did not know when they did good or bad to the least of Christ brothers, true or false?
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Number 5.) if we are no part of this world how can we expect to get fairness or justice from it? 6. does the world love that which is no part of it? Why then would we think it politics, its religions, its business its governments would favor us and treat us fair?

Number 7. Does a dead person make demands to be treated fair or is such conduct only good for the living?

And we can go on and one, so what is the point? We suffering on this earth because of the things listed above, we are mistreated, we are considered as nothing, as unimportant, we are overlooked even in the most fundamental natural feeling of family and friends, and the biblical truth is its because we are dead to this world.

1Cor.4:13.when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world--right up to this moment.

Thus, when we are bombard daily by the power behind this world; wicked spirit forces in heavenly places, we have nothing to cling to, or hold on to from this world, what we have is but one thing, do you know that is?

First, let us explain, in death, in our flesh nothing of this world works for us, please listen, all of this world, and its works, its thoughts, it feelings, it very breathe that it is created is shakable, coming to an end!
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It will be only that which is everlasting that wont be shaken into fear, plagues, and back to the dust from which the flesh came. That which is everlasting is not of this world, and the only thing that can with stand the power of this shaking and the evil is our faith in Christ, which faith is being refined by fire because we are dead to this world, and because we are dead to the this world we are untouchable by the wicked spirit force of this world that hate us; we are in Christ, we are his life, and his righteousness, and that is why we conquer in our faith!

Romans 1:17 For in it is revealed God's righteousness from faith to faith. As it is written, "But the righteous shall live by faith."{Habakkuk 2:4}

Romans 4:19 Without being weakened in faith, he didn't consider his own body, already having been worn out, (he being about a hundred years old), and the deadness of Sarah's womb. 4:20 Yet, looking to the promise of God, he didn't waver through unbelief, but grew strong through faith, giving glory to God.

Hebrews 10:38 But the righteous will live by faith. If he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him."{Habakkuk 2:3-4}

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is assurance of things hoped for, proof of things not seen.

Hebrews 11:6 Without faith it is impossible to be well pleasing to him, for he who comes to God must believe that he exists, and that he is a rewarder of those who seek him.
Hebrews 11:33 who, through faith subdued kingdoms, worked out righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,{Daniel 6:22-23}

Hebrews 11:39 These all, having had testimony given to them through their faith, didn't receive the promise,

Hebrews 12:2 looking to Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising its shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Completed: January 11, 2020

by: Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus

January 11, 2020 | Registered CommenterJWsStraightTalk