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Rom.11:12 Now if their fall is the riches of the world, and their loss the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fullness?

If one fills a cup to the brim it is full, the “fullness” implies a limit does it not? Yet, many believe that the number of spiritual Israel is limitless, why? Because society political correctness teaches us everyone, and every thing is equal, but God is not unfair, or is he worried about what human think to be fair!

Isa.40:13 Who has directed the Spirit of Yahweh, or has taught him as his counselor? 40:14 Who did he take counsel with, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of justice, and taught him knowledge, and showed him the way of understanding?
40:15 Behold, the nations are like a drop in a bucket, and are regarded as a speck of dust on a balance. Behold, he lifts up the islands like a very little thing.

Nothing in reality under the systems of things mankind has set up is equal or fair! The real question plaguing many Christian's is the apostle Paul words here under Holy Spirit; was he teaching the fullness of physical Israel or spiritual Israel? The rejection of physical Israel by God is a bitter spot for many Christian's throughout the history of Christianity. But what did God reject? The mundane system of earthly temple worship that could not remove sins by animal blood or individual Israelites?

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.

James.2:5 Listen, my beloved brothers. Didn't God choose those who are poor in this world to be rich in faith, and heirs of the Kingdom which he promised to those who love him? 2:6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Don't the rich oppress you, and personally drag you before the courts? 2:7 Don't they blaspheme the honorable name by which you are called?

The call went out to all Israel a nation given God's prophets, priest, kings, and his attention for thousand's of year, He, God did not hold back anything from Israel the nations. Yet, they rejected the Son of God, not even knowing it was God's Son sent to save them. The system of things God had set up served its purpose, it had finished its course. God was changing that system he gave to Israel not by their goodness or faithfulness, but for his name sake, a name Satan the Devil had slandered by his own world he controls.

Heb.3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Jesus;
3:2 who was faithful to him who appointed him, as also was Moses in all his house. 3:3 For he has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who built the house has more honor than the house. 3:4 For every house is built by someone; but he who built all things is God. 3:5 Moses indeed was faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were afterward to be spoken, 3:6 but Christ is faithful as a Son over his house; whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the glorying of our hope firm to the end.

Heb. 7:11 Now if there was perfection through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people have received the law), what further need was there for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

Heb. 8:5 who serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things, even as Moses was warned by God when he was about to make the tabernacle, for he said, "See, you shall make everything according to the pattern that was shown to you on the mountain."{Exodus 25:40} 8:6 But now he has obtained a more excellent ministry, by so much as he is also the mediator of a better covenant, which on better promises has been given as law. 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.

Moreover, a nation Satan had corrupted many times in its history. Israel had got it backwards as does many religions in today's world, it was not about them, but God YHWH who they were chosen to represent by their faithfulness to his name. They thought their importance being chosen of God was so important God could never reject them and their system of things. Yes, unknown to many today their heavens, God's laws over them, and their earth the system of things controlled by God's laws would be rolled up removed, and a new heavens and earth was being placed over those with faith in Christ Jesus life.

Matt.5:17 "Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18 For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter{literally, iota} or one tiny pen stroke{or, serif} shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.

Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former things shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, says Yahweh, so your seed and your name shall remain.

2 Peter 3:13 But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

Spiritual Israel was God's new heavens and earth, his foundation that new Jerusalem was built upon. Israel imputed evil to God, their own God, and fought vehemently against Christ incoming kingdom from the new heavens. Their hearts harden by self-righteousness, their position, and being fleshly rejected God, by rejecting his own son.

Romans 11:1 I ask then, did God reject his people? May it never be! For I also am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Romans 11:2 God didn't reject his people, which he foreknew. Or don't you know what the Scripture says about Elijah? How he pleads with God against Israel:

1 Thessalonians 4:8 Therefore he who rejects this doesn't reject man, but God, who has also given his Holy Spirit to you.

Now Paul makes the point, the entire point of the letter of Romans which is spiritual Israel, not physical Israel would bless all the nations of our earth from a new heavens and a earth created new by God, and they at that time were its very first fruits. The number of which would come from Jews and Gentle alike, God was not partial as Israel had been costing them the privilege of being spiritual Israel.

Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, who didn't follow after righteousness, attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith;

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;
Rom.2:8 but to those who are self-seeking, and don't obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, will be wrath and indignation,
2:9 oppression and anguish, on every soul of man who works evil, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 2:10 But glory, honor, and peace go to every man who works good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 2:11 For there is no partiality with God.

The fullness, that is, the complete number of spiritual Israel is the blessing of God to all mankind, one more step to redeem what was lost by Satan the Devils slander of God's Holy and righteousness name. Returning to what God had rolled up, set aside accomplished nothing for those created, and lead by Holy Spirit, going back to mundane, corruptible worship of God, instead of the incorruptible worship of God in Spirit and truth made no good sense.

Gal.5:4 You are alienated from Christ, you who desire to be justified by the law. You have fallen away from grace.
5:5 For we, through the Spirit, by faith wait for the hope of righteousness. 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision amounts to anything, nor uncircumcision, but faith working through love.
5:7 You were running well! Who interfered with you that you should not obey the truth? 5:8 This persuasion is not from him who calls you. 5:9 A little yeast grows through the whole lump.

Each step in the letters of bible written by the apostles of Christ will point out the incorruptible life of Christ exult position that cannot be shaken or corrupted again by will intention humans on earth. Christ is the end game the finish works of God, the perfection of prettiness to restore God's name. No religion on earth was going to be allowed to corrupted that which is reserved in heaven Christ Jesus the perfect will and truth of God. Those representing God, not as a physical nation are ambassadors, without land on earth or building, their home; spiritual Israel is reserved in heaven by the life of Christ whom raised them to be seated with him. They must serve by Spirit and be lead by Spirit to do the will of God.

1 Peter 1:4 to an incorruptible and undefiled inheritance that doesn't fade away, reserved in Heaven for you.

Luke 22:69 From now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God."

Colossians 3:1 If then you were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.

This is the faith required that Israel rejected as a whole, this is test for spiritual Israel of being rejected by this world and its system of things while seeking a kingdom that cannot be shaken. Fixing their eyes above in the life of Christ, and not in human power, but the power of the kingdom above. Not an easy task, when most Christian's today seek the power of earthly kingdoms, rather that be religion, business or governments, those of spiritual Israel live without bar or doors, that is, living under the new heavens by the law of love leaving the vulnerable to attacks.

Ezek.38:10 Thus says the Lord Yahweh: It shall happen in that day, that things shall come into your mind, and you shall devise an evil device: 38:11 and you shall say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to those who are at rest, who dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates;

Matt.5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, 5:45 that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust.
5:46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Don't even the tax collectors do the same? 5:47 If you only greet your friends, what more do you do than others? Don't even the tax collectors do the same? 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

The counterfeit kingdom of God Christ state would come into being after he was gone, happened for the protection of Christian's, but to protect Christian's they must revert to the laws Israel used to form their might institution to prevent being attacked by the nations corrupting the spiritual law of spiritual Israel into to yeast.

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old yeast, neither with the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Galatians 5:9 A little yeast grows through the whole lump.

Rom.13:18 He said, "What is the Kingdom of God like? To what shall I compare it? 13:19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and put in his own garden. It grew, and became a large tree, and the birds of the sky lodged in its branches." 13:20 Again he said, "To what shall I compare the Kingdom of God? 13:21 It is like yeast, which a woman took and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of flour, until it was all leavened."

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