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MAIN TALK UNDERSTANDING GOD THE SCRIPTURES

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LOOKING UP!

Millions, in fact, billions of Christian's are herded into thousands of religious sects, holding pen's, labeled by Christian's names under the tutorship of shepherds claiming divine right through the scriptures as being and having, the body of truth that will save one from everlasting death/torment.

Yet, a thinking person would be forced to wonder? Has Jesus Christ failed the human race in the united brotherhood he prayed for just before his own death at the hands of those claiming sole ownership of truth on earth the Jewish Faith?

John 17:20 Not for these only do I pray, but for those also who believe in me through their word, 17:21 that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that you sent me.

How strange that Christian's condemn one another, in view of their own failed history in being united by love? Yes, the uniting bond of peace among Christian's is love, yet, hardly has their been more abuse, war, wrath, done on earth than done by Christian's claiming the identifying mark, in authenticity belonging too Christ Jesus, love?

It is as though, Christian's are blinded to their own bad conduct, they can judge others perfectly, but cannot judge themselves fairly in light of Christ Jesus love? It is like asking every person on earth” “are you and honest person?” Unanimously, the sound would echo back around the earth, yes! But the fruits of truth are just the opposite, most people are not honest, but dishonest in some grave way, so how have they been so blinded?

SELF-INDUCE BLINDNESS

Well, it very simply if I compare degrees of honesty against other peoples honesty, I can judge myself as honest, correct? Not unless I have to stand before a judge. What is honesty, will it seems to be, as long as I can see someone elses being more dishonest than me, I am OK. Self-induce blindness by seeing perfectly some one elses dishonesty in order to justify my own. In fact, a person might even executed a thief, while being a thief, and feel justified.

Although, this problem is more complex than some simple answer, it is nevertheless, the center piece of why there is such diverse division among Christianity. Ultimately, is it boils down to a person comparing oneself against the bad fruitage of other too justify my own bad conduct, that is, in showing a lack of love to others not of my beliefs.

JUDGMENT BY GOD'S RIGHTEOUS LAWS

Now if we judge each other by lesser laws to justify our conduct, but when a person are given God's righteous laws it becomes a magnifying glass in seeing the speck in our brothers eye. But it still the same process, in degrees, we judge others by faults that we consider are far worst than our own. In fact, it is a blasphemy that one should be so bold to break one of God's law. Now if I love God's righteousness isn't it righteous on my part to judge that person, and is it not necessary to bring God judgment upon them in some way, by word or deed?

Is it any wonder that a thinking person would question if there is a God with so many shadows of justice being expressed through those claiming God's righteous laws as the measuring line of all human conduct on earth?

But is God the author of confusion, do we see among Christian's God's own personality?

TRUTH WHAT IS IT THEN?

Well, once again asking people if they are being truthful in saying they are honest, a resounding voice would come back as one, yes! So what is a person definition of truth? Will, once again, seeing the untruth in others by degree too justify our own truth, correct? How about among Christian's, the same would be true, seeing others not uphold the truth of their group justifies their own groups lack of truthfulness in another area.

It would seem the best religion has to offer is searching through bad apples to fine the goods ones to justify the bad ones in the same barrel, but again is this God's standards?

GOD'S LAW JUSTIFY WHO'S CONDUCT?

This is an important questions that most Christian's never give any thought too, why? Because they are busy justifying their own conduct by the misdeeds of others of the world, in religion, or government, in order to make themselves feel righteous in their faithfulness to God. If you told them this is call self-righteousness, they would argue until they were blue in face to prove you wrong by words, from the bible! They would claim they are honest, they are faithful, they are doing what God told them to do, and a flood gate of scripture would follow to justify their conduct, being as sincere as a life and death itself. But to an onlooker, who also judges would see something very much different then the many words of justifiablility.

This conduct is the same conduct that all human on earth use, religious or otherwise, they learn verbal self-defense on every level of life to survive. Although, Christian's think they are unique in this by being special, and using God's word, they have the same conduct as the world they claim to be no part of.

The very first misstep should not be in judging ourselves against another human, but instead against Christ Jesus. This then is the real definition of truth, and not looking at another human by some religious truth, which is not looking at Christ Jesus, but rather measuring our own conduct against man. Most Christian's believe, God's words justifies them and upholds their judgments, but is that truth? Shockingly, no! This is not true, God word only upheld one man on earth as righteous and that is Christ Jesus, and it is of interest, Jesus never justified himself by any other, man or their religion, lesser conduct, he measured himself against the highest standard, his Father Yahweh.

So the question remains does any of the bibles teachings justify us? No they don't they only make us self-righteous when we used them to condone our conduct, and what does that mean?

It means the law given to Moses only justified God's righteousness, and not mans', the law was the perfect magnifying glass to point out our own unrighteousness against God's law. There was no law that justified a sinful person conduct it only condemned us as a sinner, and gave us the penalty of sinning against God's own righteousness, which is death. A person could stand before the great judge Jehovah and justify until they were blue in the face, comparing how they did not sin as bad as so and so, but if they did not go to the temple, and have their sin justified by pardoning them with innocent blood of animals sacrifice they stood condemn for breaking all the law, what? Yes, all the law, what in the world does this mean?

It means the “Body of Truth” was God's law, if a person broke one law it did damage to all the law. In other word, if you have a beautiful vases and you drop it, it destroyed the whole vases, to have a perfect vases, which means being sinless, one could never sin without doing damage to all the vases. No human being on earth could do such a thing being born of sin from Adam, so the law did not uphold our justification of ourselves, it simple condemn us as needing innocent blood to pardon our sins against God's righteousness.

But ones will say, we are not under the law any longer, so it does not matter, but again, does any of the teachings of the bible justify us, no!

So many Christian's make the fatal mistakes in thinking love is weak, even though, they will not admit this, they do not believe it is better than judging others by laws in the bible to bring people to Christ Jesus, why is this? It is because they are fleshly, which means, they have not received God's Holy Spirit which makes them a spiritual person. So they cannot judge matters of the spirit because they are blinded to them by comparison judgment of law. What does that mean? It means they don't really understand the law of the spirit, which is love, they can only judge love by laws of the flesh, which makes their judgment incorrect.

Moreover, the flesh cannot even contemplate the thought that it cannot know all things of God by intellectual human reasoning, but why? Because the flesh take possession of all things in its life, as being
personally a part of them. It like explaining to a fish that it is not a bird, when it does not care, its not a bird, it doesn't want to be a bird, so it knows all things of being a fish, so why are you talking crazy talk? Why do you keep telling me I don't understand a bird, I can intellectualize, I know I am not a bird, so what else could a possibly need?

The bird says; “ you have to fly to understand me, all the laws governing your world does not fit into my world”. So the fish says, “I know that, so I will judge all matters by the laws of my world as a fish”. The two cannot meet, they can judge each other by the wrong laws, but they cannot change who they are by the rules of the other, now can they.

THE NEW PERSONALITY

So although a Christian objects sharply, intellectually, if they are fleshly they are indeed under the laws of the flesh, no matter how much they can explain how Christ Jesus set us free from such laws, they are not the laws that govern their world they are a part of, and because of this they will judge the truth wrongly.

1Cor.2:14 Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 2:15 But he who is spiritual discerns all things, and he himself is judged by no one. 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.

These are comparison Christian's they compare themselves against themselves to justify their lack of love, and judgment of other Christian's. Feeling perfect complete in doing so, they are offended when one suggest otherwise. Why are they offended? Because they repeat scriptures, the repeating of scripture justifies them. Just like the frighten person that says words over and over again to strengthen their own will to complete an impossible task, or something that is frightening to their flesh.

Because the laws of the flesh take ownership of all things, the fleshly person takes offensive, because it intellectually knows the truth.
They find the law of love offensive, but again they will deny it even to themselves, but it will be the last thing they will do when coming to a fight over doctrine. They will only resort to love, to justify themselves in a flesh position, but why?

Because it is not their personality, their personality is from below, from and earthly father, sold under the laws of the flesh, where as those of the Spirit have a new birth, and are given a new personality by God. This too is offensive to the fleshly person, they have to make their personality new by making themselves obey laws of the bible, the thought of God giving them a new personality by nothing they can earn is offensive, they deserve it by their hard work, so once more this is almost impossible for fleshly persons to understand, but neither will they admit this lack of love because they have intellectually understand by the scriptures.

John 3:31 He who comes from above is above all. He who is from the Earth belongs to the Earth, and speaks of the Earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.

John 8:23 He said to them, "You are from beneath. I am from above. You are of this world. I am not of this world.

Now we must come up on the point we talked about early so flesh may see a higher standard, but let it be noted, flesh will not look up until it cannot save itself through justification of words, and comparison too others. In other words, when flesh is defeated completely it stop justifying itself, and ask for help from God. Where fear and trembling of death of the flesh exist, it will concede its position, and this is why, religions have torture so many in the name of God, to make the flesh stop, judging by its own standards of self-righteousness, and this too is whats behind the hideous teachings of Hell fire, but God does not appeal to the flesh with laws of the flesh, He appeals to it by love.

LOOKING UP!

Why look up, it is because this is where the Body of Truth be found for people on earth, but flesh cannot see beyond the flesh, so they look to flesh in groups to justify their not looking up in faith to Jesus Christ. The flesh cannot judge it real conduct against love, so they judge themselves on how well they uphold doctrines of their group. Moreover, they judge themselves against leaders of flesh, to judge their conduct, to control their old personality by confining it to a creed of beliefs.

Subsequently, this gives the flesh a form of feel good righteousness that it can take ownership of. Where as Christ Jesus righteousness totally alludes them as real and meaningful accept intellectually. The flesh spend 99.9% of its time looking at others in the flesh and their conduct as to identify with Christ Jesus righteous in a person, rather than looking up at the light, although they will defy you in saying this, they know in their heart as true.

Does the written word of God, the words of Christ Jesus, or the apostles of Christ Jesus teachings, justify our words and conduct, no! And here is why, despite the flesh wranglings over words, the truth stands.

The Body of Truth for those born of Spirit exist in heaven, and cannot be understood by fleshly thinking. The new testament or the old cannot justify our conduct no matter if we can quote every verse of them verbatim. The only person every justified by the word of God was Christ Jesus, and that is the reason he fulfilled the Old Law, and became the Body of Truth for Christian's today. Christ took the place of all the written words of God from the Palms, through the prophets, and law, he is all them rolled up into one, so there is not another place a person can find the truth. What a person finds in justifying themselves, by teachings, doctrine, or the bible verses, is only condemnation for not living up too the law of love.

Love standards are so high they can only condemn us for not meeting them just like the Old law, but Christ Jesus took our condemnation under the Old law, and teaches us God's love by the Spirit in the new law of

love. But without the blood of Christ Jesus we could not be pardon from our sins against Christ Jesus righteousness. The question is who do we compare ourselves against the Body of Truth in Jesus Christ as the living Truth of God written into the hearts of the Spirit led followers of Christ Jesus or another person teaching doctrine?

TRUTH CHANGES TO A LIE IN THE FLESH

This thinking really baffles the thinking of law Christian's, truth is truth the will retort! And they are correct to a point of fleshly thinking, but truth in more than fact to God. To God truth become truth when a person acts in harmony with the law of love. But how cans some one says something so stupid like this? It is because Yahweh God is truth, every thing he does is an act of truth, according to love. But men under sin act from untruth and can only speak truth by intellect, they cannot live in complete truth in love, how do we know this, because we die from corruptions from sin which is a lie against the truth of God's love.

When a person says they speak truth it is relative term, it is better said they speak some truth at times, but they don't speak truth all the time with their neighbor, no. Rather they justify lesser truth of lies to keep the peace with family, friends and employers. This is the reason a person can speak the truths of the bible an at the same time do evil to others without compunction for their behavior. They have fallen into the trap of the Devil, by justifying themselves through preaching truths from he bible as proof of their own self-righteousness. The history of blood shed among those loving Christ Jesus is extreme because of this self-induced lie that lead to the greatest hypocrisy.

James 1:26 If anyone among you thinks himself to be religious while he doesn't bridle his tongue, but deceives his heart, this man's religion is worthless.

Moreover, the flesh is a liar and an actor, putting on different faces depending on the audience, and acting, is worshiped by the flesh, because it is fascinate when others are master at acting as a person they are not.

So when the flesh takes God's word the same laws of flesh cause them to act religious to be accepted too other fleshly Christian's, they seek the approval of men over God's approval, although, once again they will deny this vehemently.

See also: nu-truth.com