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Led by Holy Spirit

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

It is a basic truth of Christianity for some two thousand's years now that for a person to understand God's word the bible they must have the Holy Spirit of God, and yet, we find as much confusion as any subject from God's holy writing the bible about this important message.

1Cor. 2:9 But as it is written, "Things which an eye didn't see, and an ear didn't hear, which didn't enter into the heart of man, these God has prepared for those who love him."{Isaiah 64:4} 2:10 But to us, God revealed them through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

It seems those blowing the trumpet for battle (being led by Holy Spirit) have a very indistinct call. There is as much trepidation, and fear regarding being led by Holy Spirit as there are Christian's religions upon earth, some forty one-thousands at last count.

1 Corinthians 14:33 for God is not a God of confusion, but of peace. As in all the assemblies of the saints,

1 Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.


The question begs why? Simply put, the Spirit of God's blows where its wants, just like the wind, a person neither knows where it comes from or where its goes. So this subject can not be codified into methodology by rules, laws, or commandments. It must be known by faith, and there stand the problems for the fleshly minded person.

John 3:8 The wind{The same Greek word (pneuma) means wind, breath, and spirit.} blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but don't know where it comes from and where it is going. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

The god of Confusion

Confusion is a sign of not having God's Holy Spirit, it is a sign of having Satan spirit, so when talking to religious people in general a person can go from reasonable discussion of this subject to every from of insanity found in a mental institution. Hence, religion in general has unity on this subject in one manner that of the fleshly mind in explaining the written word of God, seldom will you hear a organized religion state publicly that their leaders are inspired by Holy Spirit for a certain understanding of the scriptures, why?

James 3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic. 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.

Because within a few years or so a new understanding will come along, and replace the last one. So does this mean Christians today are not led by Holy Spirit, and those gifts no longer exist?


School of Thought

Every practice today, and throughout the history of mankind has been learned in a school of thought, which means, there are schools set up for building thought into a practice, from being a teacher, to a doctor. Each school has a set pattern of thinking to form a person into what a professionally trained person must act like. These laws judge and measure the performance of the person in the a certain practice.

But at the same time they produce a school of thought that is very powerful, which makes a person think into these patterns, hence, blinding them to other thoughts in maintaining the unity of the practice, rather that be religion to politics.

Subsequently, how does one judge the wind, the working of Holy Spirit in God's children? The wind cannot be put into a school of thought without canning the wind, and then the question begs is it the wind? When you seal the can and don't allow it to blow upon you?

Rom.8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.

Fear Driven Fleshly Mind

First, we should know that there is a fleshly mind, and a spirit mind, one is lead by laws of the flesh, while the other is led by Holy Spirit, but these two minds are opposed too each other. They do not coexist as one mind. In fact, each mind will kill the other when it comes into contact with it.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace.


This is why all Christian's must agree that without the spirit mind they cannot know God, why? Simply put, God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship in Spirit and truth, this is a profound and complicated thought.

John 4:23 But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

In other words, without having a spirit mind like God, one cannot know how He thinks, but there is much more, what? The fleshly mind our natural mind cannot know God's spiritual mind, its world and thought pattern are not God's world and thought pattern no matter how intelligent the fleshly mind is. It cannot know God, some, or even a little, because the fleshly mind interpretation of God is based upon rules, laws, commandments found in death.

The two thought patterns or schools of law are opposite as ends of a magnet, or darkness too light, as polluted waters are to fresh water, they cannot mix without destroying the other condition.

John 6:63 It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.


Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire.

Pride of Fleshly Mind

The fleshly mind is a proud mind built upon earning merit, and respect through meeting the rules and laws of the fleshly mind world. Hence, when a subject is put before it all its knows it too conquer the subject proving itself right/wrong, which in turn, earns it merit in the world of the fleshly mind. Subsequently, it is diametrically opposed to the spiritual mind of God, God mind is not haughty nor is His Holy Spirit because that which comes from God's mind is not in competition in proving a person is right. It is rather, led by the law of the spirit mind, which is love, a Royal law of God YHWH Himself in fruits of peace and righteousness.

Rom.12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith. 12:4 For even as we have many members in one body, and all the members don't have the same function, 12:5 so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.

The fleshly mind cannot know this mind of God, it rather competes with it in a competition to gain life. It takes spirit led words found in the holy writings and digest them through the fleshly mind into a legal rules so the fleshly mind can feed upon them.


The food of the fleshly mind is law of the flesh that is what nourish its soul, mind and spirit. Subsequently, it can't be both, a little spirit mind, and a little law mind, we cannot put a little leaven into the spirit mind, and not corrupt the whole thing, which means this?

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

It means we cannot share the fleshly mind which is pollutes, and will kill the spirit mind. But one mind will always remain. Subsequently, the fleshly mind cannot know God, however, it will never admit, or believe it does not know God, it will arrogantly fight until its last breathe that is does know what God's words say, but it will be based upon error of a fleshly mind, which is opposed to the spirit mind and is in itself, not truth, but instead lies of the fleshly minds world.

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don't tell the truth.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Faith Led, or Flesh Led by Law

Here than is the indisputable chasm a Christian's must face, can we know God by the school of thought of the fleshly minds creation for some two thousand's years now? Hence, are they so too speak digging in a barn of horse dung looking for a horse that has left the barn two thousand's years ago, by the deaths of the apostles of Christ Jesus removing the restraint in hopes of finding the horse, by the fleshly mind?

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Secondly, we must know as a Christian's that God promises to give his Holy Spirit to those asking in faith, but we must also understand there is a faith by God's Holy Spirit, and a faith of the fleshly mind. The mistake Christian's make most often is to believe that faith is faith and there fleshly minded faith is the faith God speaks to in his word the bible, but is it? In light of all we now understand about the fleshly mind and the spirit mind?

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Faith of the fleshly mind comes from itself, it does not come from God as a gift of His Holy Spirit, but what is the difference? The difference is vast, as vast a chasm between light and darkness. The fleshly mind is always in a contest with other flesh, in beating them in a competition to outshine other humans to get/gain credit. So faith of the fleshly mind comes from the power of self-will of our flesh, hence, from self. The fleshly mind makes itself believe that overcoming the fears of the flesh it gains a reward of eternal life with God, but is this true?

1 Corinthians 1:29 that no flesh should boast before God.

The fleshly mind faith empowers, and strengthen the fleshly mind. But it does not strengthen the faith coming from God's Holy Spirit, it is instead opposes to the spirit mind of faith in God, but why?

Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire.

Because the spirit of the fleshly mind is dead in the spirit mind, and it will kill it, if it can. However, the spirit mind posses nothing of its own, it is instead given a gift of faith, a fruit of Holy Spirit, which is not in a competition, with the fleshly mind, why?
Rom.12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

Because the spirit mind is a member of a spiritual body, which cannot be in competition with another part of its own body, no more so than are hand competes with the foot on our own body, there is competition, or point in competing, with each member loved equally judge the same by the head, or mind of the body, under the law of love having no condemnation!

So the spirit mind does not put faith in itself at all, it rather puts faith in the mind of its spirit body Christ Jesus. The faith it processes is given from the spirit mind, by the law of the mind, love. It does not take such faith and glorify itself as superior to other body members, because it is not its property gained through self-will, which will is dead to the body of Christ Jesus. Such thinking is evil to the mind of the body and dead to the life of the body.

Subsequently, there are two types of faith, a faith of the fleshly mind that puts faith in works of law, and the spirit mind that puts faith in the God's goodness in Holy Spirit as gifts. In others words, when the fleshly mind hears the words works of law, it becomes offended and angry, loudly protesting, it does not try to earn salvation by its good works, hence, proving it is lying, why? In the very next breathe, it will make a statement from God's words the bible about obeying the commandments, is the only way a person can have life, not faith in Christ Jesus as giving us the gift of salvation!

Truth of Spirit Led


The truth is that the fleshly mind is very sincere in knowing God by rules of laws of the fleshly mind, it has a great zeal willing to kill others to prove it's love for God, but it cannot know the God of the Spirit mind because it does not know God as love. It knows God as judgment, which is found it own world, and has created the world of the fleshly mind, wherein all things are set upon judgments of the flesh. Hence, its worth, its love, its work, its education, its death, its birth the very fiber of the fleshly minds existence is laws of the flesh and there judgments.

Jude 1:19 These are they who cause divisions, and are sensual, not having the Spirit.

Subsequently, because of the nature of the fleshly mind it cannot be led by Holy Spirit as already talked about, moreover, it cannot know a person led by Holy Spirit either, the fleshly mind will instead fiercely judge and condemn a spirit lead person because that is the nature of two seeds, planted in garden of Eden.

1 Peter 1:12 To them it was revealed, that not to themselves, but to you, they ministered these things, which now have been announced to you through those who preached the Good News to you by the Holy Spirit sent out from heaven; which things angels desire to look into.

The fleshly mind rather sets up its own form of worship by sight, and through laws of doctrines that it applied and act upon in faith , receiving a reward for the fleshly mind, by the same rule of laws. The fleshly minds world is the world under darkness of Satan rebellion at the garden of Eden, it cannot know, or do otherwise, because that is the seed planted, and it must grow into fleshly mind, Yielding or producing the works of the flesh.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Product of the Vine of the Fleshly Mind

The fleshly mind plants as long as it is alive upon earth, and it produces a crop of grapes which are both sour, bitter, and sweet, founded in the works of the flesh, sweeten by some good coming from the same mind of the flesh. However, this fleshly mind cannot be led by Holy Spirit, it can intellectualize spiritual thing into laws of sin planting them into fleshly thought of the fleshly mind yielding fruits of death, but it cannot produce eternal life, which comes from the gift of Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:3 being revealed that you are a letter of Christ, served by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tablets of stone, but in tablets that are hearts of flesh.

Hence, the fleshly mind creates a god of flesh having both good and evil fruit upon the same tree, as does the same fleshly mind creating a god. Subsequently, the fleshly mind reaps its own judgment by the god of good luck it has produced from lack of Holy Spirit.

Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Why a god of good luck, it is because the fleshly mind thinks it can please its god by doing some good during the day, but when bad comes upon the fleshly mind in the same day it luck has run out, with such a god, like changing shadows that vary according to its god's mood.

James 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.
1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.
1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger.

The fleshly mind finds what has once worked in pleasing its god has now changed by a word in some other part of the bible that undoes its legal contract practiced through faith of law in its contract with its god. Now it finds fear of judgment, and it madly scrambles to find another legal clause some where else to nullify or justify the last clause causing the god of good luck to vary in his moods.

The fleshly mind it fooled into thinking God is good and evil, but refuses to admit such as harsh judgment of God, so than it lies to itself through more legal understanding of God word. What it cannot understand is that all such product of its vine is evil, sin, and corruption none of which is found in the spiritual mind of Christ Jesus.

Romans 7:23 but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members.

Subsequently, the fleshly mind cannot be lead by Holy Spirit which is God's love, because it cannot think of God as love, because its can only produce wicked thoughts of judgment towards God as good and evil, although lying denying it to others and self, making it a hypocritical mind as well.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Fruit of the Spiritual Vine of Christ Jesus

The mind of Christ is certainly Spirit led, because, 1.) it is a spirit mind placed into a spirit body by God Himself, and 2.) because the mind of Christ Jesus is God's own mind entrusted to Christ Jesus upon his faithfully completing the his earth course as the very representation of God's being.

Romans 11:34 "For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?"{Isaiah 40:13}

Such a mind cannot be lead by flesh, or it sins, lust or reasoning's, and this is why we are told that our thoughts do perish with us at death. God is not going to resurrect fleshly thoughts into life, once put to death through the bodies own death. Nothing of the fleshly mind created by Adam and Eve is going to proceed into a God's Kingdom, it will perish with the body that goes back too the dust from which it came.

1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.

God does not have such an unholy alliance with sinful flesh as we do, He is not fooled or corrupted by such false reasoning's of weak fleshly humans twisted by the high thought of worldly wise teachings. God is love, and all that come to know him will be lead by the spirit of love, found in the mind of Christ Jesus.

Colossians 1:21 You, being in past times alienated and enemies in your mind in your evil works,

Colossians 2:18 Let no one rob you of your prize by a voluntary humility and worshiping of the angels, dwelling in the things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.

This powerful law of God, love, led Christ Jesus upon earth, and is the same mind he took with him, not his flesh, into the Kingdom of God to teach us love, as members therein of life, which is Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit.

How Are we Led by Spirit?

As already discussed the fleshly mind has it own will, which comes from the mind of the flesh. This will is controlled by laws of the flesh, which are laws for sin. The fleshly mind is a law onto itself, these laws control and prospers its life by the laws of its own mind. Moreover, it is under other laws of other fleshly minds through governments, businesses, and religions, but all coming from the will of the flesh same fleshly mind passed on by Adam's sin, that is, the life given to it by our parents.

Romans 2:14 (for when Gentiles who don't have the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law to themselves,

Romans 2:15 in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience testifying with them, and their thoughts among themselves accusing or else excusing them)

However, those having a Spirit mind of Christ Jesus, do not have the will of their flesh, but instead, the will of the spiritual body they are made a part of by faith in God's love.


Because they are dead to their old fleshly mind, they can be led by the one mind of the body Christ Jesus as a member slave within that same body upon earth.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Apollos, and who is Paul, but servants through whom you believed; and each as the Lord gave to him?

1 Corinthians 4:1 So let a man think of us as Christ's servants, and stewards of God's mysteries.

In other words, the Spirit leads them, and feeds them spiritual food, what is spiritual food? The body of Christ Jesus, which, body? Not his dead fleshly body, but his new spiritual body given him by God's own love for His Son.

John 6:33 For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world." 6:34 They said therefore to him, "Lord, always give us this bread." 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will not be hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.

Subsequently, to live in Christ Jesus, a person cannot have a law mind of the flesh, they must have the mind of Christ Jesus, which in the Spirit of his body keeping them safe, as a members of a spirit body of Christ feeding and cherishing them.

There is no separation of body members, in the flesh, or in spirit the are all one person in Christ unity by the love, the law of the body, the law of God.

Eph.5:29 For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourishes and cherishes it, even as the Lord also does the assembly.

Conversely, the one body of flesh that dominates the world we live in and is darkness are connected by laws of flesh, which feeds, and gives life to the fleshly body. This is why Jesus said those trying to save this life will lose it, hence, there will be no fleshly laws or thought in his body members. Where we can save this life by laws of the sinful flesh, in-order too protect us now, because the flesh loses its life to live in Christ Jesus, hence, too live according too the Spirit and its law love.

Romans 8:16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God.

Being Led by Spirit and Put to Death

The spirit mind we have as Christian's can be put to death by faulty judgments, what does this mean? It means the house of God is under judgments/construction while upon earth by false reasoning's of our own flesh. We as the body of Christ are not exempt from lust of our own flesh which kills the mind of Christ Jesus given too us by a free gift of God's love.

These judgments we are under in God's house are for a blessing to the nations, how, and why? It is because of the benevolent wisdom that He has allowed us to under go such judgments so we can see the truth of the fruitage of our ways.

Hebrews 3:6 but Christ is faithful as a Son over his house; whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the glorying of our hope firm to the end.

1Cor.11:27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks the Lord's cup in a manner unworthy of the Lord will be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread, and drink of the cup. 11:29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, if he doesn't discern the Lord's body. 11:30 For this cause many among you are weak and sickly, and not a few sleep. 11:31 For if we discerned ourselves, we wouldn't be judged. 11:32 But when we are judged, we are punished by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

Such fruitage coming from independent thinking found upon the tree of sin, or good and evil, cannot be removed without God's love, and teachings us the law of love. God does not intellectualize love, He is love as God, his very being. Moreover, he does not intellectualize love within the body of Christ Jesus that is why he gave Christ His own mind.

So each member therein becomes love, that is, the law of love as their very being of God, not the condition of love as an intellectual thought. But an expression of God Himself as His progeny, love.

Ephesians 3:19 and to know Christ's love which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

Subsequently, we are put too death in our fleshly thinking, how, by our fleshly mind, killing us (the life of Christ Jesus in us) completely so where we have no life of Christ Jesus indwelling us. Where we are found dead in hopelessness, lost in the land of dead, by intellectually legal understanding, we have lost the mind of Christ, but we have no good work or power within ourselves, to save self, that is, to bring us back into the mind of Christ under freedom of love.

We are like a beast without a Christ like thoughts, by our own ways through laws of death, which are by the laws of the fleshly mind, judging us into death, we are convicted and found wanting, we find thorns and thistles; not loving and kindness, we have sinned by placing ourselves above the Christ mind our head; we have become as sheep led to the slaughter, we have sacrificed ourselves, because of self-righteous in legal thought trying to prove ourselves righteous without Christ imputed righteousness, but to no avail, we cannot redeem ourselves, we are but a sinner without God's love. There is nothing within our thinking outside of Christ Jesus that is life, we are faced with death and no way out!

If God does not love/forgive us we are dead forever, but God's love cannot fail, we are promised, and he resurrect us into the mind of Christ Jesus, and we see the error of our fleshly mind, we learn not law, but love, why love. Because we deserved by law punishment not love and kindness for our disobedience to God. However, God returns good for evil we have implied God is withholding something good from us in the mind of Christ Jesus, but instead we find death and corruption like Adam and Eve.

Romans 8:36 Even as it is written, "For your sake we are killed all day long. We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter."{Psalm 44:22}

But now we stand not in law that we once demanded justice by, and we put before Christ Jesus righteousness, God's love has shown us mercy that the law cannot show. God has removed our deserved judgment in His love, undeservedly as it is. But now the shocking truth is heap upon us in our fleshly thinking, this process goes on for a life time in our flesh, it continues day to day, and some times minute to minute until we are completed in God's love in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love.

This is God's love in setting all creation free, in the son's of God, this is why their judgment is not with death in view, but life, life for the whole human race sold under the fleshly mind of Adam and Eve, so corruption of the fleshly mind can be removed from our very being into the glorious freedom of son's of God.

Rom.8:19 For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 8:20 For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but because of him who subjected it, in hope
8:21 that the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of decay into the liberty of the glory of the children of God.

Lead By Holy Spirit

The question remains how are we lead by Holy Spirit, first, this is not a legal question as so many Christian's believe it is, it is not a doctrine, or a rule of law that if you obey you are than lead by Holy Spirit.

Instead it is how we are created to live as Son's of God, by Spirit, we are grafted into a spiritual body, not a physical body feed by the blood of the body, no! We are instead feed by spiritual food coming through the body of Christ Jesus.

We have a spirit mind, the mind of Christ Jesus, so how are we lead by Holy Spirit by faith, why faith? Simply put, faith in Christ Jesus as our leader, teacher, and Lord, is rock-solid as life. Such faith the Father is well please in, by giving us His Holy Spirit that directs our spirit life found in the body of Christ Jesus.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.

When we lack faith going into the fleshly mind, so goes the life of Christ Jesus in us blocking the flow of the Holy Spirit and its fruit for life in our mortal bodies. We are dead, until our faith, and trust in God gives us the life of His Son to brings us back into the life where the Spirit lives in wisdom, sanctification, and righteousness, which is Christ Jesus.

Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

We are nothing without Christ Jesus life giving us what we are created for, as a new creation God's glory found under the will of Christ Jesus as slaves to the body of Christ Jesus. Yes, Christ Jesus will that is incorruptible to our sinful flesh mind, the perfect will of God is found in Christ Jesus for us, we are led by this will to please God.

Ephesians 4:8 Therefore he says, "When he ascended on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men."{Psalm 68:18}

Such a perfect will is good for us, we can trust in this perfect gift coming too us by the Father of lights that it will led us where we need to go. We walk on water, not by a fleshly mind under laws of the flesh, which declare it can't be done! But rather we walk where are Lord commands us on top of things that are humanly impossible, defying all that is under the fleshly mind, but why?

Isaiah 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea; for it can't rest, and its waters cast up mire and dirt.

Matthew 8:24 Behold, a violent storm came up on the sea, so much that the boat was covered with the waves, but he was asleep.

Matthew 8:26 He said to them, "Why are you fearful, O you of little faith?" Then he got up, rebuked the wind and the sea, and there was a great calm.

Life of the Spirit was lost by Adam and Eve, so went their faith to communicate with God, faith that had been given them through no self-will of their own flesh, but rather a gift of God from His Holy Spirit. So to does God's children must come to know that their own faith is a gift through the last Adam, Christ Jesus, as being part of Christ faith, not their own.

Rom.12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

His faith allows them to communicate in Spirit with their Heaven Father giving the eternal life, such life cannot come from any human effort, but from God's good and God's efforts through His love to restore all that Satan corrupted from the tree of evil and good. We as God's children must understand that eating of such a tree, the fleshly mind only leads to enslavement to sin and death. Thus, those born of Spirit are spirit, those born of flesh are flesh, those born of Spirit must walk by faith, allowing them to be led by God's Holy Spirit.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

In other words, they must learn complete trust in God's love, and goodness. They must trust His judgments over their own, they must see the condition of sin in them knowing nothing good dwells in their flesh but rebellion, and death opposing God's love.

Subsequently, there is no magic law, or rule that a spirit child of God can sink their fleshly teeth into have God's Holy Spirit, it is like the wind that blows where it wants, and we do not know where it goes or comes from, accept to say our faith in it as good will give us blessings with no curse.

Rom.7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

God promise each of us to give Holy Spirit to those asking Him for it, that is all we need to put faith in God's promise to us. If we have that faith, we walk by spirit and will be led by God's love into eternal life.

Rom.10:8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth, and in your heart;"{Deuteronomy 30:14} that is, the word of faith, which we preach: 10:9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10:10 For with the heart, one believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 10:11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in him will not be disappointed."{Isaiah 28:16} 10:12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich to all who call on him. 10:13 For, "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved."{Joel 2:32}