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The book of Romans

Chapter 11

Rom.11:1 I ask then, did God reject his people? May it never be! For I also am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

All or nothing this is the thought of a legal mind Christian we either are accepted completely, or we are rejected completely! But God is more, much more, His judgments are not made with prejudice towards a nation, or a man. He alone is good and impartial. If Israel was rejected it wasn't on a national level (all bad, all good), just because a person associated with a certain group, no!

Matt.24:4 Jesus answered them, "Be careful that no one leads you astray. 24:5 For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will lead many astray.

Such thinking is small ball, human wickedness, Paul was living proof God hadn't rejected Israel, the very apostles of Christ were all from the Jewish faith, but such was the thinking of the fleshly mind. Lumping everyone into a group and than hating them, calling them evil, not worthy of God's love is evil. Religion does that world wide, governments do that world wide, sports teams do that world wide, and people do that depending on your job, vehicle, books you read, and movies you watch, and so on ...

Rom.2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

Rom.2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; 2:29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not from men, but from God.

The fleshly mind is a sin mind, set upon judging, it lives to judge, and judges to live. Judging is the food for the fleshly mind, not the bread of life coming down from above in every good gift, the Christ.

Each member of the Christ Jesus was chosen of God not because they were a certain nationality, or because they had some special position, or wisdom, no! They were chosen because of another person specialness in giving them his precious righteous life so they could know our Heavenly Father YHWH.

Rom. 3:28 We maintain therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 3:29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Isn't he the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 3:30 since indeed there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith, and the uncircumcised through faith.

Paul would argues this point here in Chapter Eleven of Roman's, taking the fire out of the hands of the Jews, and the Gentile's alike. God's Holy Spirit is marked for all the world to see and known by love, not division and hate. If these wanted to be approved of God, they must not go back to the evil of fleshly worldly thinking by position creating in competition in the name of God or Christ.

James 4:1 Where do wars and fightings among you come from? Don't they come from your pleasures that war in your members? 4:2 You lust, and don't have. You kill, covet, and can't obtain. You fight and make war. You don't have, because you don't ask.
4:3 You ask, and don't receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it for your pleasures. 4:4 You adulterers and adulteresses, don't you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 4:5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, "The Spirit who lives in us yearns jealously"? 4:6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."{Proverbs 3:34}

Rom.11:2 God didn't reject his people, which he foreknew. Or don't you know what the Scripture says about Elijah? How he pleads with God against Israel: 11:3 "Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have broken down your altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life."{1 Kings 19:10,14} 11:4 But how does God answer him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to Baal."{1 Kings 19:18} 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Many Christian's today are associated with some group claiming to be the Israel of God, but at the same time having nothing on their branches to prove their fruit are Christ Jesus fruit found on his tree, Christ has no evil on his good tree!

Matt.7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.

This thinking than filters down into all members associated read from their bibles, hence, applying it to their religion they thinkin they are God's Israel organization today. Subsequently, obligating God so He must save it, or at least some of its members so they endure in endless abuses of power hoping for changes, but it never comes? So what was Paul speaking about here? Certainly not a modern day man made religions claiming to be God's spiritual Israel!

Revelation 18:4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, that you have no participation in her sins, and that you don't receive of her plagues.

God only has had only one physical nation/kingdom upon earth, Israel, he did not form another physical body of men into a governing body of kings too rule over the body of Christ Jesus, creating yet one more time a sinful physical earthly organization, having both good and evil fruits on its branches. He instead took a faithful remnant, a small group by comparison to the millions that had been in the physical Israel and poured out Holy Spirit upon them anointing them as a spiritual body of Christ Jesus. Hence, removing their sins immediately from fleshly thinking and the apostasy that goes with a fleshly mind, which is so prevalently among all earth organization(s), how? By killing the flesh in Christ Jesus!

There is nothing wrong with praying for those in religion hoping God will at His own good pleasure opens their eyes to the grace of God, but today, God commands is too us, to get our of false religion, and come up to the Christ, worshiping Him in Spirit and truth on his Spiritual mountain not found upon earth, but instead by faith. This is what causes united, when men and woman stop looking at flesh, and judging by flesh, so what is flesh in this case? It is the flesh of looking to religion, and not looking up to Christ, in faith.

John 3:17 For God didn't send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him.

Here than God will give us Holy Spirit, and the uniting bond of peace, but why if we are not associate with a religion? It is because grace, that is, unmerited kindness, and/or undeserved kindness does not judge flesh and blood by laws promoted from religion only creating yet more wickedness, and sin in us. Grace walks in love, the law of Christ Jesus looks for the good in others, and hopes all things and believes all things because those having it have themselves been saved by no goodness of their own, but instead redeemed by the Christ faithful life, and given freely to them by God's love.

Titus. 3:3 For we were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. 3:4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and his love toward mankind appeared, 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 3:6 whom he poured out on us richly, through Jesus Christ our Savior; 3:7 that, being justified by his grace, we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

God's Grace cannot reject any of Israel individually, nor for that matter the Gentles individually this is Paul's point here, which is we not impute evil too God, rather, believing that He alone is good, and our resting in faith in Christ nothing for his people will go unfinished.

But neither does God anymore condone evil on a organization level allowing their evil fruits be done in His name condoning evil by the good being done. Individually we must take responsibility and come out of her and put faith in the invisible Kingdom of God by Spirit and truth, and we will be blessed by God/YHWH peace from Holy Spirit a fruit of the Spirit, peace.

Rom.11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

The rock-mass of offense, Christ, nothing is more offensive to the legal minded Jews, or Christian's than grace! Grace, or unmerited kindness, because nothing in their world is free, without merit by the worth they prove themselves with, even their religion. Unmerited kindness cannot be in the flesh, the fleshly minded world is set up by laws of our flesh to earn our way into heaven and/or paradise with God.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

Such evil struggles upon earth has proved to be the undoing of Christian's and Jews alike for thousand's of years, creating a massive lump of yeast, i.e., merit teachings to climb the ladder of Jacob into the heavens by works of law. Please note here that the sinful flesh mind will acknowledge the word unmerited kindness, or grace, but its fleshly heart rejects trusting in it.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

This is the point of Paul's words, found every where within the written word of God, either you earn your way into life, by your good works, and/or you accept undeserved kindness of God? Legally, the law bound Jews could not get it after thousand's of years of works of law, Christian's don't get it when educated into a religion that determines everything one does by how much performance they give to their religion.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace.

God's works are Jesus Christ, Christ works are his Fathers, these are the works of God, which are good fruit, we are imputed these works because God is love, and we are not! This is why Christ could say a good tree (Christ Jesus) cannot bear bad fruit, no human can make that statement truthfully about themselves. Hence, than Christ said: “a corrupt tree cannot produce good fruit”.

So how do we get from point (Z), a corrupt tree, which are all humans under Adams sin to point (A ) Christ? That is, not having sin as a good tree? because we sin, we have no good fruit? Subsequently, we have no good works like the tree of life! God must give us a good tree like he did Adam and Eve (the tree of life), and he must do the good works for us, as he does by His Son Christ Jesus, God's works are without sin, than He must give us a gift of His love, something that is undeserved, now we are at point (A) by what? No merit of our own works!

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Rom.1:7 What then? That which Israel seeks for, that he didn't obtain, but the chosen ones obtained it, and the rest were hardened.

Many Christian's and Jews alike would have you believe because of a name Israel or because Israel was related to Abraham they cannot fail or loss their election to be God's children that is, God must bring them back before the end of our world, and/or, redeem them so the number is complete for his ruling class of anointed followers, but is this true?

Well, one can make it true if you select and pick certain verses from the bible such as here in the Eleventh Chapter of Romans, but if your honest and read the bible in context one cannot make that point. Every where in Paul's words he states the simple truth, if you refuse to believe the truth God will allow it. Adam was no less important to God than Israel, and yet like God has done so often when a person wants to believe a lie about Him, God lets them go into believing the lie.

*2 Thessalonians 2:11 Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie.

Love is God, the God of love cannot have it both ways “making” someone love Him, while giving them a free will not to love Him. Many believe because of the faith of Israels fathers, like David, Noah, Daniel, and many others, God is going to force Israel to come home so to speak, but this is a lie against the truth of love, it is a lie that Paul in his writing speak everywhere against. God has nothing against Israel, or any man or woman wanting to serve Him, He is just not going to make them do so against their God given free will. If they seek him God will reveal Himself to any person or nation of men.

1 Corinthians 13:5 doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil.

So here than is the context of Roman Chapter of Elven, let us take it in context to all the Greek writings not hand picking the ones that support our agenda like legally minded people do in building their chosen case for or against some agenda they support. God is not partial, when it comes to the law of love, let us understand his law of love implies faith and/or trust for God's judgments, not our own, nor people necessary. Love is not a competition based upon fleshly ties, it is not jealous because a person is a foot on the body of Christ while another member is an eye. It does not impute evil to God because He set each person into the body of Christ according to His will, and not their own.

In other words, love does not impute evil but rather trust impartiality, it not about every one being equal in position in the Christ, or Israel, it about believing God applies justice to all the same, not position as some angels have higher and lower position the test is do you believe in God's judgments are love?

Hebrews 11:6 Without faith it is impossible to be well pleasing to him, for he who comes to God must believe that he exists, and that he is a rewarder of those who seek him.

Rom.11:7 What then? That which Israel seeks for, that he didn't obtain, but the chosen ones obtained it, and the rest were hardened.

Do you believe that your religious organization is God's spiritual Israel today, expressed in the flesh through men and woman? Will, many do believe this not only today, but throughout the entire history of Christianity. One religion after another boasting in being God's chosen people on earth. But before taking such claims at face value, let us consider a simple test of our faith.

Christ stated that there would be many false prophets, not just a few bad Christian's among a bunch of really good ones. He also stated that weed-Christian's would over-sow the good wheat Christian's by the time Christ returned to earth to take his people out of this same field of unrighteousness. Than Christ stated the whole kingdom of God was like a woman putting yeast into a huge lump of unleavened dole, causing all of it to ferment into leaven bread.

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

Next he stated a simply profound truth, which alludes organized religion and those associated with it, which is: “No good tree produce bad fruit, it can't it must produce only good fruit!” Did you catch that point? If organized religion is God's good tree, of his planting, why is it that all organized religion since the time of Christ has had both good and bad fruit upon the same tree?

Mark 8:15 He warned them, saying, "Take heed: beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and the yeast of Herod."

Israel as a whole, a nation, as one person before God did not obtain to becoming the spiritual Israel of God, no! But individual from that nation did become part of God's spiritual Israel. God has stated for all of us to get out of false religion and he would take us in as a son or daughter. He did not say he was reforming organized religion any where since God stop dealing with Israel on a national physical level.

1Cor.10:14 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry.
10:15 I speak as to wise men. Judge what I say. 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, isn't it a sharing of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, isn't it a sharing of the body of Christ?
10:17 Because there is one loaf of bread, we, who are many, are one body; for we all partake of the one loaf of bread.

In fact, when such a question was posed to Christ about where we are to worship he made it clear, Christ himself being an Israelite, and going to the temple of God.

John 4:19 The woman said to him, "Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. 4:20 Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship." 4:21 Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe me, the hour comes, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, will you worship the Father. 4:22 You worship that which you don't know. We worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.
4:23 But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.

Moreover,Christ Jesus did not send this lady some where too worship on earth, or tell her to form a new religion upon earth. It is important that Christian's understand where evil fruit come from, and know God is not to blame for thieves stealing what is rightful owned by Christ Jesus, and the son's of God real Kingdom. So does this mean people can't come together to worship God? No! But when people come together than one must ask what rule of law are they going to use to form their group into a religion? Will, if it be the law of love, where power and control are nonexistent. Hence, willl love be abuses in the name of good fruit? If it is love than most will not find it in this religiously confused world! Remembering only a few will understand, where two or more are gather together truth of God will be found for those walking in the law of love.

If they seek glory in numbers, power, boasting in grand building works in the name of God they will be highly disappointed and find as so many have throughout the history of organized legalized religion, not the good fruit of Holy Spirit but the thorns of bloody fingers trying to pick fruit by its deceptive food.

Matt.7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?

Rom.11:8 According as it is written, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear, to this very day."{Deuteronomy 29:4; Isaiah 29:10}

Do you think God deceived Israel? Now think about that shocking statement for a moment? Which would mean, after God spent life and precious blood trying to save Israel for thousand's of years in now deceives it? What simple mundane evil the fleshly mind is satisfied with in trying too identify human wickedness as the mind of God, how truly blinded and lock up is this thinking?

Isaiah 26:3 You will keep whoever's mind is steadfast in perfect peace, because he trusts in you.

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

God did not deceived Israel, He let them have the desires of their own heart in deceiving themselves from the truth of God, but how? God stretched out his hand for thousand's of years before He let Israel go in the way it constantly wanted to go. Christ said Israel killed all of God's prophets whom were sent to them whom trued to turn them back from the errors of their ways, lastly, they killed the Christ, and continued to kill God's anointed of the Christ until the Roman empire destroyed their nation.

Rom.11:23 They also (Israel), if they don't continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

What evil had beset this great nations whom God has chosen for their forefathers? It was an evil so pervasive that it affects every nation on earth today, including Christian's, and what is that? Self-righteousness. Yes! Self-good works by law. There is nothing wrong with doing good works, but when you think you can redeem yourselves by being good according to the law (law of a certain religion and/or the bible), it becomes a blindness that blinded and entire nation of God's chosen people.

This is the hard truth Paul speak always within his writings, the law did not declare a person righteous by obeying it, one could not obey it, even if they did not break a commandment, does that shock you? Sin in and of itself breaks all the commandments, that is why God sent the Christ as sinless human being to redeem us from this curse. Humans with the sin of Adam cannot be declared righteous by God's law or any law in God's eyes, no! Christ would not have had to die for us if that were true. The death of God's own Son, was not in vain, or a perfunctory actions on God's part too make people feel better about God's love, no!

1 Peter 1:19 but with precious blood, as of a faultless and pure lamb, the blood of Christ;

It was an act of righteous justice on God's part to redeem us by righteous blood, which blood completed the judgment of His perfect laws given to Israel. The law of Moses, which condemned, convicted and punished all of them and us as sinners. Yes, just an evil thought is sin, don't be fooled by politically correct religious teachings of sin, like the Jews, whom divided the law into greater and less sins, making one sin better or worst than another sinful humans, no! Look to God for justice, look to the Son of mankind whom revealed the Father too us, he said; without dividing things into legal definition: if you or me, lust for the opposite sex we sin, sin is lawlessness to God, and lusting for the opposite sex is adultery and/or fornication!

Christ did not say as attorney's of the bible teach as as excuse for sinning in one heart by self-rightness that sin is only sin when you act upon the evil, no! Sin is in you and me, we are all together born into sin, hence, needing redemption by blood. This is the blinding of Israel today, and this is the blinding of weed Christian's to this day.

Which boils down to a simple and profound truth the foundation of Christ Jesus dying for us, we are either under unmerited kindness unearned or we are blinded to trying to be good enough by works of law. The Jews wanted to look down at others Jews by fasting, going to the temple, eating certain food, washing their hands in a certain way. Weed-Christian's want to be declared righteous by meeting the rules of their religions, but true Christian's know they have nothing good dwelling in their sinful flesh and need a redeemer!

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Rom.11:9 David says, "Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, a stumbling block, and a retribution to them. 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see. Bow down their back always."{Psalm 69:22,23} 11:11 I ask then, did they stumble that they might fall? May it never be! But by their fall salvation has come to the Gentiles, to provoke them to jealousy.11:12 Now if their fall is the riches of the world, and their loss the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fullness?

David numbered the people of Israel, and God's wrath was kindled against David and the nation of Israel for not trusting in YHWH, but instead in numbers these Christian's were putting faith in the power of flesh! Here the apostles Paul does not put a number on how many Jews may yet become part of the spiritual Israel of God, so let us not trust in flesh, which is, to make the ridiculous claim that because a person is a Jew that to fulfill God's purposes they must all be saved, that is, part of God's ruling kings and priest.

Mark 10:31 But many who are first will be last; and the last first."

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few chosen."

The full number here does not imply every person every born a Jew will be at some point the spiritual Israel of God, it mean the same as if you have a cup and you ask someone to fill it, they fill it, not over fill it, or do they let it run until the pot is empty. The point is, let every man be found a liar and God be found true, meaning, God will not be defeated by a lack of faith, in completing the full number of the spiritual Israel of God, the spiritual nations, the seed of Abraham will bless all the nations of our earth, which simply means, spiritual Israel will be taken from both Gentles and Jews alike. The cup will be full at God's time, and to God's good pleasure. Not over filled for fleshly thinking of men.

So many modern day Christian's waste huge amounts of time worrying about when the Jews are coming back, when the temple of God will be restored, putting faith in flesh, like King David did, missing the point that God's Kingdom is not built with hands of sinful mankind, Christ is God's greater spiritual temple, and we are not here talking about returning to a shadow of light under a huge tree of sin, but to our reality of the Son of God where death does not exist into the incorruptible life of God.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

In other words, if there is no work in an area, and the towns people refuses to work for a certain employers, and people from surrounding towns come in and take those jobs, who benefits. 1.) the employer, .2) the outsiders, and, .3) the town people for having money spent in their town by those workers, and the company. Later as those same town people realized perhaps they were a little proud, and only hurt themselves they seek employment the town only benefits more, correct?

What it does not mean is the employer stops production, because all the town people don't want work, or refuse too work for the company, the company goes on so does the work with or without the town's people. So too with God opening the Gentles to complete the position within the body of Christ.

Rom.11:13 For I speak to you who are Gentiles. Since then as I am an apostle to Gentiles, I glorify my ministry; 11:14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh, and may save some of them. 11:15 For if the rejection of them is the reconciling of the world, what would their acceptance be, but life from the dead?

Here Paul posses a complex set of questions, but to whom? To the Jews and Gentles alike. He first tells the truth in Christ that he is appointed by Christ to be an apostle to the Gentles. He then state, he has glorified his ministry not himself, what does that mean? What is means is he has glorifies Christ, by Christ working in him, and through him, then he shared this Good News with the Gentiles which was the world to the Jews. Furthermore, his writings and preaching to the Gentles by his in depth explanation of the old law, and new law, provoked some Jews to jealousy, in what way?

Romans 9:8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

The Jews were fleshly people they hated each other by God's laws, judging harshly onto death those not agreeing with them. Moreover, they were God's chosen people through Abraham's seed, but here Paul a teacher, and a former high ranking member of their faith was giving God's promises of a ruling class of kings priest to the Gentles! Shocking, certainly for a fleshly minded people provoking them too jealousy!

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Let us remember those having God's Holy Spirit do not posses things like a dog does a bone, they are under the law of Christ, love. They are givers, and shares of God's love, such is not the case of a legal minded Jew or a Christian for that matter. Now Paul says these possessive Jews whom kill anyone not obeying their rule of law rejected God's love too them, Christ Jesus, by using their rule of law, although, claiming it from God, they killed God's own Son Christ Jesus.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

Did God reject them for such conduct? Will if that were true individually Paul himself would not have been writing here about God's undeserved kindness towards Jews and Gentles alike. So God's people rejected Him. Moreover, God completed what their faith should have moved this nation into accepting Christ. God closed one system of things for a New Heaven's and Earth, in Christ Jesus, where God's righteousness dwells for His spiritual Israel today!

1Cor.1:28 and God chose the lowly things of the world, and the things that are despised, and the things that are not, that he might bring to nothing the things that are: 1:29 that no flesh should boast before God. 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption.

Yes, God rejected His physical temple service which atone for sin by animal blood. He allowed his Son Christ Jesus to complete the old covenant, and its laws in favor of a superior law of love. This rejections of the nation as a whole, which means; God set up the Jewish system – and its government, but the world, and/or the Gentiles could not be reconciled to God through animal blood. The old world (Jewish system of things) or old earth could only reconcile a Jew born into that faith by linage.

Now if some of those Jew rejecting Christ were to reconsider their faith that would mean coming back to life under a new covenant being reconciled to God through the blood of Christ, and not animals blood under a physical temple, but a new spiritual, and superior temple, Christ Jesus. If not, they'd remain in death spiritually having no sacrifice for their sins left, hence, living in dead works under a physical temple, and its laws, rejected now by YHWH.

Romans 2:23 You who glory in the law, through your disobedience of the law do you dishonor God?

Hence, without the blood of animal sacrifice upon the altar one is disobedient to the law having no justification from God for their sins!

Rom.11:16 If the first fruit is holy, so is the lump. If the root is holy, so are the branches.

Here is the problem with legalistic fleshly minded works of law Christian's, they teach holiness by self-works of meeting some rule of law. Holiness, comes from the root, not the branches! If a person understand this process of being grafted into a good tree,of a branches from a bad tree, than they would understand the simple truth of humility found everywhere in the Greek Scriptures:

No good tree produce bad fruit, and no bad tree produces good fruit. Let your, yes, mean yes, and your no, no, for what is in between these is from the Devil.

Either a person is bad tree/branch, and they have been grafted into a good tree producing the good tree fruit making their own fruit good/holy, or they are a bad tree, and lying by self-justfication about their sinful fruit.

Here, in context of all the Greek Scriptures, where Paul states the undeniable truth of Christ Jesus. If your in Christ Jesus, grafted into Christ the fruit is not yours, nor is the holiness your. If the holiness, is not yours than neither are the fruits of holiness be yours! Anything in between is not from God!

Matt.5:37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.' Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

Matt. 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.

On the other hand, if person wants to go back to the laws of the fleshly Israel and produce bad fruits i.e., works of law/sin, from Adam's sin, than stop lying about being in Christ, while teaching, and proclaiming self-holiness comes from being in Christ Jesus by works of law, or for that matter any laws that make you think you can earned salvation by an unholy roots of sins tree!

Which, tree is ourselves as a condemned sinner by those same laws. One is either made holy, or they are not? No sinner can be holy before God without being made of a new lump of holiness, from unleavened bread without sin, which is Christ Jesus. One cannot take unholy yeast/leavened bread and make it into a new lump calling it holy.

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

Ephesians 4:24 and put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.

Stop lying that you are holy by obedience too the commandments, you cannot be holy by obedience, you can be holy by being grafted into the root of holiness through Christ obedience, it is not by our own works of laws/good works. Finally, stop being presumptuousness, in teaching hate through judgments of sins laws; sinless people are not judged by God! Isn't that the whole point of the bible to bring people back to a sinless state so God can be their Father? Those in Christ, are grafted into the root of holiness having no sin, for the tree is sinless so to are the branches on the tree, does a sinless person need commandments condemning them of being a sinner pushed down their sinless throat so a person can feel superior over others in maintaining a position as a teacher of works of law?

1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God didn't appoint us to wrath, but to the obtaining of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace.

Lets us soberly look at Paul's words here in context, the issues was nothing more than ones proclaiming they own holiness through some set of rules, laws, commandments, and/or position.

Rom.11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them, and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree.

Many were called out of Israel, but few chosen, God chose the whole nation of Israel as a ruling class in his Kingdom. But few of them responded to the Christ, only a remnant of the entire nation became branches on the holy tree of God. Most rejected Christ as an apostate from their teachings, and took part in, or in partial destroying him.

Romans 9:27 Isaiah cries concerning Israel, "If the number of the children of Israel are as the sand of the sea, it is the remnant who will be saved.

Subsequently, their branches were broken off, of God's righteous tree, and new branches were grafted in, the Gentles. Those Jews had become self-righteous in meeting the many works of law set over them through the law of Moses. Hence, by the time Christ arrived faith in God was diminished into judgment by law blinding the nation to the truth of the law, which was.

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.
7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you. 7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? 7:4 Or how will you tell your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye? 7:5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.

The law judged, convicted, and condemned every person under it as a sinner, they were not made holy by works of laws, but rather the blood atonement upon the Altar of God provided by YHWH great mercy. This thought of righteousness by atonement instead of law offended the Jew's so badly that they killed God's passover lamb Christ Jesus. Now Paul under the headship of Christ and the Holy Spirit faced the exact situation with newly converted Gentiles thinking by meeting those laws which condemned Israel was going to make them righteous.

Romans 9:31 but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness. Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Moreover, Christian's today are faced with this powerful tool works by law as one of the strongest deception of the Devil in over-sowing the field of God's planting by sins laws, yeast! Nothing is more corrupting to the truth.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Rom.11:18 don't boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you.

Many Christian's work themselves into a break down, or a burn out, as was common language not many years back to explain backsliding in their faith. Here in Paul's time some must have thought by their own good efforts they were supporting the Christ, and without them the Good News simply would not get accomplished. What type of boasting is this? Its called fleshly boasting, boasting in ones own goodness/motives by works of law. But wouldn't it be nice if such works of law/boasting would stop there, but they never do. Instead they also give a person in their fleshly mind the right to judges others by works as good or bad towards God and Christ.

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

The Gentiles were faced with a problem which has plagued Christian's from the time of Christ, their walking in faith, or walking in their own accomplishment boasting in them as merit for honor power, and glory within some man made religion. However, the apostle Paul corrects our thinking with a profound observation about nature itself, if the root of the tree is good/holy, than the fruit on the branches will be good/holy, not the other way around.

James 4:16 But now you glory in your boasting. All such boasting is evil.

These Gentiles were being influenced by works of law, a powerful tool in deceiving one in the most subtlest of ways. If a person does something good, isn't that God's goodness, no! There is only one good tree not many, and God's standard of its fruit on that tree must be sinless, free from yeast of weed Christian's boasting in good works. But wait you say if we do a good work from the bible, isn't that God's good works, or if we do a good work from our religion isn't that God's good work? No!

John.15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Christ is the good work for all Christian's, he is the holy root which produces holy fruit, not the other way around. You see, this is why the bible uses the words unmerited kindness, and/or undeserved kindness because if it unmerited, or undeserved you can't earn it by your own good works. Mankind has lived in sin and death for thousand's of years still unable to deliver themselves, they still produce corruption in everything they do. This is a truth look at mans trees, what every tree they plant from sin, have you noted? On the branches, are good fruit from good works, and bad works from evil works, just like the tree Adam and Eve ate from producing their own deaths. But Christ says this tree having two kinds of fruit is a lie, it does not exist in God's judgment! It either has one fruit or the other, having both mean it is a corrupt tree.

Matt.7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

Rom.11:19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in." 11:20 True; by their unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by your faith. Don't be conceited, but fear; 11:21 for if God didn't spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 11:22 See then the goodness and severity of God. Toward those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 11:23 They also, if they don't continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

Paul's words here have haunted Christian's for thousand's of years, if God broke off branches for the Gentiles, so they could be grafted into spiritual Israel, than can person lose their salvation once being made a part of Christ Jesus?

There are but two camps of thinking on this matter, and they are: yes, and no! So in fairness, each group has powerful arguments for or against this subject. However, our understanding the power of the our fleshly mind in it being quick too label a group, and than put people into certain groups; declaring them evil, and/or wicked, is the very much the nature of every fleshly mind. Moreover, and its religion, and/or governments created by same fleshly mind created by Adam's sins producing law of and for sin in protecting everything from property to our souls in this life.

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

Christ himself spoke of being the true vine, and casting those not producing his fruits into the fire to be burnt up, and than we have the apostle Paul giving us more information about this subject in the book of First Corinthian; where he states that an anointed person judgment is not with death in view, but life. Moreover, Paul explains further, those in Christ Jesus who build things outside of the body of Christ by their self-will, these works are going to be destroyed, brunt up. In other words, in context; the fruit on true vine of Christ, the fruit his branches are owned by Christ, all other works not his will be revealed by fire -destroyed, but not the person in Christ, they will be saved!. Furthermore, Paul states here in this part of Roman's that Israel whom were broken off can still be grafted back into spiritual Israel by faith.

John 15:1-7, 1Cor.3:11-15, 1Cor.11:25-33.

What than are we too take away from the context of these scriptures regarding our salvation in Christ? That there are important points, which goes beyond law and judging of who is or is not a branch on the in the spiritual Israel of God, and what are these points?

1.) there can be no boasting in works of law, because most of Israel was broken off for just such conduct. 2.) it is by Faith in Christ, which is the only way to stay an active fruit bearing branch in Christ, and not by works of law. 3.) there can be no self-boasting as a single branches, because it was not through it is not through a personal faith from our old self that we be grafted into the holy tree, but, rather a collective faith given too each branches member in Christ that keeps them active as fruit bears too God's glory.

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old yeast, neither with the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Rom.12:1 Therefore I urge you, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service. 12:2 Don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what is the good, well-pleasing, and perfect will of God. 12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

Christian's cut people off in judgment over the simplest things, they condemn others into eternal damnation for not agreeing with their biblical point of view, they will kill over a teachings. But Paul, on the other hand, leaves each person hanging, are too such judgments under who's authority men/woman two thousand's years removed from the Christ? Why does he do so under Holy Spirit, to test hearts will they judge correctly, or evilly?

Can a Christian's honestly say that they aren't like any other group of fleshly thinking person making judgments from a agenda? Here is the point, how far will God go in redeeming his children, who are born again into His beloved Son Christ Jesus? How far will He yet go into redeeming Israel, can any person honestly say?

Rom.8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Could oppression, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 8:36 Even as it is written, "For your sake we are killed all day long. We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter."{Psalm 44:22} 8:37 No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

If parents whom Christ called evil, that is, having sin, knows how to give good gifts too their children, who of us would be so bold too judge a child of God evil by laws that we are condemned by? Whom would break off a branch on the tree of Christ for their own judgment of good and evil like Adam and Eve? Which person in all humility would not do exactly what the apostle Paul stated under Holy Spirit leaving the matter where God Himself place it?

1Cor.4:4 For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord. 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

Rom.11:24 For if you were cut out of that which is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more will these, which are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

It is an a amazing process grafting, where a farmer can take a branch from an unproductive tree with small bitter fruit, and graft it into the stalk of a good productive tree producing good fat fruit! As unnatural as this is to the nature of wild olive tree to be forced into producing good fruit from the roots stalk of a good olive tree. So what is Paul's point here?

Israel had been of God's planting through the faith of Abraham, by faith God blessed Abraham and his seed into a might powerful nation where God placed his Holy and righteousness name. God nurtured the nation for thousand's of years by His righteous law given to Moses. Hence, Israel was good olive tree it was not a wild olive tree started by a seed that fall to the ground uncultivated left to itself. Israel had a keeper, a pruner, and vine dresser the prophets of God.

Paul had just spoken about the holy root stalk of Israel how these Gentles had been made a part of spiritual Israel, about as unnatural of process a person could imagine, a people consider unholy and unclean to the nation of Israel. Now made a part of the hope of Israel the new spiritual nation of kings and priest. How shocking could such association be to those made fat by the very righteousness of God, the law? God did not reject his planting, but branches on the holy root stalk, although the very tree be cut down the root stalk remind the faith of Abraham, God's promises to him by faith not broken.

Could these spiritual Jews now think God was going to be less active in cultivating their faith after his rejection of what he planted and tended to over thousand's of years? Should we as Christian's think that God has left such spiritual works of sons of God in the hands of sinful men seeking self-glory through visible religious organizations? Here then is Paul's point what God produces is His working not of a self-will person obeying rules of laws. God made Israel holy they did not make themselves holy by works of law. The Gentles did not make themselves holy by works of law, but being grafted into a holy root stalk by the hands of God, now stop boasting in self-righteousness don't go as most of Israel went in forgetting God and declaring self holy and righteous by preforming some work, while self-righteously looking down on Gentles. Now Gentles stop looking down on Israel because God rejected some branches, or you would not even exist because it is the root stalk supporting you, not the branches supporting the root stalk.

1Cor.3:11 For no one can lay any other foundation than that which has been laid, which is Jesus Christ. 3:12 But if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, or stubble; 3:13 each man's work will be revealed. For the Day will declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself will test what sort of work each man's work is. 3:14 If any man's work remains which he built on it, he will receive a reward. 3:15 If any man's work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire. 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you? 3:17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for God's temple is holy, which you are. 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone thinks that he is wise among you in this world, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.

Christian's stop boasting in works, Christ is your root stalk you don't support him, he supports you as holy and righteous works of God. Your works don't make you holy Christ Jesus life and his righteousness makes you a productive branch on his spiritual body.

John.15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
15:6 If a man doesn't remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

Rom.11:25 For I don't desire you to be ignorant, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} of this mystery, so that you won't be wise in your own conceits, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Here the apostle Paul gives us the answer to his writings for these brothers and sister, for them not to become conceited by their own wisdom, human wisdom. How many have done just that since these words were penned? Setting themselves up as leaders over subjects empowering themselves by positions, destroying spiritual lives, and physical lives in the name of Christ Jesus as God's spiritual Israel upon earth!

Proverbs 16:2 All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but Yahweh weighs the motives.

Only conceit in self-wisdom could condone such conduct in Christ Jesus name, but why? Simply put, Paul's words above, proved they had nothing, which had not given them by God's own hard works, and not their own. Hence, they had been grafted into something so wonderful and holy it was a mystery for thousand's of years even to God's own prophets, and angels, now delivered too them freely by God's kindness. Where was the boasting? Moreover, where was the oppression by wrath of the Old Law, where were their sins, gone! Yes, gone, freely without their own good works, their own good name, but instead, God providing them the precious everlasting blood of Christ Jesus.

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, "I have made my heart pure. I am clean and without sin?"

If self-works of goodness were enough why didn't one prophet, king, or judge of God redeem themselves becoming the righteousness of God, replacing the law? No, not one out of millions of Israel step forward with such a claim, and yet, Israel became conceited in her own righteousness, by wisdom declared through the writings of the prophets. Israel declare herself righteous, subsequent, as the holy tree everlasting tree of God's planting. She was proud in here heritage, so proud, her own lust for self-rightness caused the very death of God's Son, killing the son of God, the very God they claimed to honor and worship, could this happen to the Gentiles?

Jeremiah 13:27 I have seen your abominations, even your adulteries, and your neighing, the lewdness of your prostitution, on the hills in the field. Woe to you, Jerusalem! you will not be made clean; how long shall it yet be?

Yes, within short order we have nation building by the uses of Christ words, we find massive institution(s) oppressing people under its power and control of some man, or men seated at the top of government-religion. We have the same pattern of flesh repeating itself throughout the history of mankind, claiming the kingdom of God as spouted by these self-proclaimed Christ in conceited religion(s). Bragging in position how they are God's chosen, how their religion is righteous and clean so goes the way of the wicked heart for self-glory, and so go the blinded humans under them wanting sight worship in works of law, such a profound, and powerful tool of light to mislead the nations away from the Kingdom of God.

Ezekiel 22:26 Her priests have done violence to my law, and have profaned my holy things: they have made no distinction between the holy and the common, neither have they caused men to discern between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.
1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no man speaking by God's Spirit says, "Jesus is accursed." No one can say, "Jesus is Lord," but by the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 1:4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without blemish before him in love.

Rom.11:26 and so all Israel will be saved. Even as it is written, "There will come out of Zion the Deliverer, and he will turn away ungodliness from Jacob.

Do you see Paul's words here as a legal contract with Israel? Many do and have thought so throughout the history of mankind since these words were penned by the apostle Paul. But yet, Christ spoke of a time when weed-Christian's, or we can say, fleshly minded people would take over the field of wheat from God's planting, but why is this important? It is important for one reason, a fleshly minded person walks by sight, and through worldly organization(s) because they do not have faith, real faith. in the unseen unshakable Kingdom of God. Hence, then, physical Israel would be supper important too them by their sight walk through worldly organization(s)!

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

But Paul was not speaking to a legal contract as fleshly minded Christian's do, he was speaking the truth which was, all Israel, spiritual Israel would be saved, by one means, Jews, and Gentiles alike, what was that means? The righteous blood of Christ Jesus opening up the way, and setting the foundation stones of the New Jerusalem above as their mother, a new spiritual nation of Israel. In this manner all Israel will be saved not the literal rebellious people within Israel having a hand in killing Christ Jesus and his apostles, and not repenting of such evil works. The same type of evil most of Israel was destroyed over time and again throughout its history, for lack of faith, and apostasy.

1 Peter 2:8 and, "a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense."{Isaiah 8:14} For they stumble at the word, being disobedient, to which also they were appointed.

That is not Paul's meaning here as though God has to uphold a a contract with evil people hating him because he is bound by this legal contract like unrighteous earthly government are, no! God is righteous, and all those being made part of his spiritual Israel are made righteous by the blood of Christ Jesus, which makes them the spiritual Israel God, He build's upon by faith, not sight worship in their fleshly minded at a physical location upon earth.

Romans 9:33 even as it is written, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and a rock of offense; and no one who believes in him will be disappointed."{Isaiah 8:14; 28:16}

Those being put to death by God's to the Old laws resurrected in to the life of Christ, their lives must be perfected through this spiritual Israel, and not through the physical Israel destroyed for disobedience under the Old Law. This spiritual Israel will unit both the heavens, and earth under Christ Jesus Kingdom, too God's own glory, thus, all will be saved through this administration of righteousness.

Revelation 21:11 having the glory of God. Her light was like a most precious stone, as if it was a jasper stone, clear as crystal.

Rom.11:27 This is my covenant to them, when I will take away their sins."{Isaiah 59:20-21; 27:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34}

How did an Israelite take away their sins? Many thought by being more obedient to God's law, trying hard to keep the commandments, comparing their efforts against some other brother or sister of Israel, is this your thought?

Hebrews 9:22 According to the law, nearly everything is cleansed with blood, and apart from shedding of blood there is no remission.

Will, the only way an Israelite could stand right before God was the blood upon the Altar from God's own mercy paying the price by an innocent life. It was not the Israelite efforts in keeping the law. Was the law than evil, no! Sin was evil and the law convicted every Israelite of sin, not being able to keep the law like Christ Jesus a perfect man without sin.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Subsequently, Paul speaks above at something so grand that the whole of Israel hardly understood it or accepted it, and what was that? It was God would take their sins away once for all time, yes, once for all time, but how?

Hebrews 9:12 nor yet through the blood of goats and calves, but through his own blood, entered in once for all into the Holy Place, having obtained eternal redemption.

Hebrews 9:28 so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, without sin, to those who are eagerly waiting for him for salvation.

God would paid the ultimate price for their sins by the precious everlasting blood of Jesus Christ, His own Son! No longer would they need to go to God's physical temple upon earth for yearly atonement of their sins. Instead God removed their sins once for all time in Christ Jesus blood, but here is the point they were missing at Paul's time and in our own times, and what is that?

That God removed the instrument judging sin, replacing it with a law that does not judge sin, what? Yes, there is no judgment for a sinless person, did you hear that? If your sinless, or made sinless by Christ Jesus blood than you have no judgment by law created to judge sin. Does this shock you? Will it does most of us, because we still sin, and we cannot separate sin from judgment.

Hebrews 9:26 or else he must have suffered often since the foundation of the world. But now once at the end of the ages, he has been revealed to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}
8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

However, this is the point of the entire Greek scriptures, which is, we walk not by sight of judgment under the laws of sin, but faith in the law of love, which means, we don't believe in ourselves as being good enough, but instead in God, and his love, towards us being good enough in giving us Christ Jesus once for all time removing our sin forever!

Such talk was evil to a Jews whom were harsh in judgment by the laws of God, hearing the words undeserved kindness outrage the spirit in their flesh into killing Christ disciples. Nothing was undeserved in their religious life, they earned by obedience in keeping the law, but were blinded to the innocent blood which testified against them as sinners, in not keeping the law. Hence, they were under undeserved kindness by that blood or God's wrath would have destroyed the entire nation if they removed the remission for their sins innocent animal blood.

Many Christian's practice the same thinking not believing God removed their sins in the life of Christ Jesus, doing works of law toward a religion and their bible, blinded by the precious everlasting blood of Christ Jesus God gave at great cost too Himself.

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone.

Rom.11:28 Concerning the Good News, they are enemies for your sake. But concerning the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sake. 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 11:30 For as you in time past were disobedient to God, but now have obtained mercy by their disobedience, 11:31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that by the mercy shown to you they may also obtain mercy. 11:32 For God has shut up all to disobedience, that he might have mercy on all.

When the human race fell into sin from Adam it was not a class of people, it was individually first, and than the rest of us were born into sin from Adam's choice, and his wife's choice. Later God dealt with a nation of people, Israel, from a class stand point legally, but also from individual stand point. This is why we find some of God people receiving different individual judgments by God, such as David, and than some receiving a class judgment.

But redemption into eternal life will be from an individual judgment were each of us stand before the throne of Christ, through a resurrections, a resurrections either into judgment, or one into life, yet, future. Israel as a nation, or a class failed in faith towards Christ Jesus God's own Son, but some individual within that class of people did not fail. The same can be said of any nation upon earth, some individual within a nation may or may not accept the Christ.

Romans 10:13 For, "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved."{Joel 2:32}

Hence, the disobedience of Israel as class under the old law allowed for individual Gentles to be grafted into the holy roots stock of Israel God's chosen people. God had promised Abraham that his seed would be His chosen people, that promise was irrevocable, but not who would individual make up that chosen spiritual nations of Kings and priest. God did not take good and bad yeast/leavened bread mixing them together to complete a number in order to save all Israel, no! God did as He always has done, and will do, allows each person by faith to be saved.

Legally God dealt with Israel as a class by the Old Law, However, individually he deals with us by the new covenant the law of love, which is the law of Christ. Hence, God deals with each of us individually by our faith under the law of Christ. Subsequently, as a class legally Israel was disobedient to God, whereas, individually many by their faith showed love of Christ Jesus - being saved as Abraham's seed. Abraham's seed was created through Abraham's faith, and not law! Thus, Abraham's promise was given too him by his individual faith, which will complete the full number of spiritual Israel. Abraham's faith rejected all human laws, in offering up his son too God for a sacrificial lamb.

Now we must separated Paul's words here from the law, into the New Covenant by faith, which is an act of faith, in the law of Christ. Once a Christian's does that Paul's words written above become truth to them. Which truth is, individually any person born Jew, or Gentile whom puts faith in God can be Abraham seed, and will be saved in Christ; not being saved in the law, as class of people, but by faith by God's under the law of love – Christ!

Both Jew and Gentle have been shut up into disobedience, by the Old Law, and/or the laws of the flesh, i.e., the nations. None can save themselves through works of law in pleasing God. Each person must put faith in Christ life as him being good enough, God means of salvation; accepting Christ as God's pass-over lamb, substituting his righteousness life for our unrighteous disobedient life, which is deserving of death. Hence, because we cannot be obedient enough through our own good works by laws of our flesh, and/or the Old law. Instead we must become a spiritual person by faith under Christ headship through the spiritual law of love.

Romans 9:32 Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;

Rom.11:33 Oh the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past tracing out!

God's riches are not material, through a sight led earthly religion, but riches of wisdom and knowledge of a King willing and able to redeem condemned sinners disobediently unable to keep His righteous laws. Not one person in the history of mankind redeemed themselves from sin, not one person of Israel or the Gentiles has put away the filth of the own flesh before God's righteousness.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Who can boast in such riches, what earth organization can say by their good works they have enough riches to redeem the human race or even themselves, and yet, like these disciple of Christ in Paul's time were allowing fleshly thinking and sight to take them away from unspeakable love of God, Christ, into another good news of earthly riches found in men that could not one redeem themselves by all the riches in the world. Not one human on earth could have imagine, or have put into writing that God would remove our deserved judgment by His own undeserved kindness, no! Not one man could have had that type of riches or wisdom to believe in the spiritual law of love. No earthly king has ever pardon humans for breaking the kings law, no ruler of any religious organization on earth could even speak in such divine wisdom that abolishes our judgment of sin.

Romans 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 11:33 Oh the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past tracing out!

Ephesians 3:18 may be strengthened to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth,

Do you understand the depth of such wisdom and riches to look at all flesh upon earth with the evil intentions of our hearts in hurting and judging one another and say: “ I will remove my judgment, by love, I will no longer judge you because I removed my laws that judge you!”

Such a God must be love, and put faith in His love, He giving us good while we given him evil. Such a God must be beyond pettiness, and pride of proving a point, such a God must be humble and value life beyond anything we could imagine. Such a God is rich in love and forgiveness. How can one explain such love in human terms without judging from our fallen flesh into the same death thinking of all mankind under sin? It has too be faith, and nothing more, because it is unbelievable thoughts that only faith can understand.

Rom.7:22 For I delight in God's law after the inward man,
7:23 but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members. 7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death? 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

Rom.11:34 "For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?"{Isaiah 40:13} 11:35 "Or who has first given to him, and it will be repaid to him again?"{Job 41:11} 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things. To him be the glory for ever! Amen.

The apostle Paul makes a profound irrefutable statement here, how can a man born of sin, having a carnal mind under laws of his fallen flesh understand the eternal mind of God? Who of us in looking at the history of mankind destruction of one another would believe they could teach God anything about righteousness. However, as shocking at this is that's exactly what man does when claiming to speaking for God.

Rom.3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.
3:11 There is no one who understands. There is no one who seeks after God. 3:12 They have all turned aside. They have together become unprofitable. There is no one who does good, no, not, so much as one."{Psalms 14:1-3; 53:1-3; Ecclesiastes 7:20}
3:13 "Their throat is an open tomb. With their tongues they have used deceit."{Psalm 5:9} "The poison of vipers is under their lips;"{Psalm 140:3} 3:14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness."{Psalm 10:7} 3:15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood.
3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways. 3:17 The way of peace, they haven't known."{Isaiah 59:7-8} 3:18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."{Psalm 36:1}

How much destruction and hate has been brought into the human race by men/woman honoring themselves in a position as God's, his mouthpiece upon earth? Paul's entire letter of Roman's refutes idol worship in any manipulated form from religion to government proclaiming the man has changed the worship of God into something like four foot creature, a created thing. Does a beast know the mind of Christ, does a beast produce the fruits of Holy Spirit? Why than worship a mind from a human that is fleshly full of human wisdom that produce nothing but death?
Rom.1:21 Because, knowing God, they didn't glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 1:23 and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

How can such a mind instruct God in the ways of eternal life, when that life perishes into the very dust from which came? How does such an animal mind instruct God in the ways of resurrecting a person into life? Here than is the point, there are but two minds for humans. A mind of death, a fleshly mind that worship idols, or God's mind which cannot be instructed from any sinful human. Either a person chose life, the mind of God found in Christ or they chose the ways of death in idols for a short time on this earth and perish in their sins.

No glory eternally will go to man as an idol, no greatness will be given to men as they long for, no everlasting institution will be built to one human upon earth by God. No human is going to add to God's glory. God's glory was not lost, mankind was lost to God's glory. God is restoring mankind to His eternal mind free from the corruption of sin and death. Mankind must be instructed by God, not the other way around. Mankind is in death and the fruits produced by their trees of knowledge is death. Not one tree mankind planted has produce or will produce gives them the fruits of eternal life in peace.

All the ways of mankind is good and evil, the good mankind does is found out in the evil and destruction that each government and institution every created by the fleshly mind has produced. The wises have said: “all man ways are but foolishness to God!”

Ps. 90:1 <<A Prayer by Moses, the man of God.>> Lord, you have been our dwelling place for all generations. 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, before you had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, you are God.
90:3 You turn man to destruction, saying, "Return, you children of men." 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight are just like yesterday when it is past, like a watch in the night.
90:5 You sweep them away as they sleep. In the morning they sprout like new grass. 90:6 In the morning it sprouts and springs up. By evening, it is withered and dry. 90:7 For we are consumed in your anger. We are troubled in your wrath. 90:8 You have set our iniquities before you, our secret sins in the light of your presence.
90:9 For all our days have passed away in your wrath. We bring our years to an end as a sigh. 90:10 The days of our years are seventy, or even by reason of strength eighty years; yet their pride is but labor and sorrow, for it passes quickly, and we fly away. 90:11 Who knows the power of your anger, your wrath according to the fear that is due to you? 90:12 So teach us to number our days, that we may gain a heart of wisdom.