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No Sign-in/All Your Information Anonymous > Commentary John Chapter Fifteen

The book of John

Chapter 15

John.15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15:2 Every branch in me that doesn't bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.

How does one put out a fire when the source of fuel comes from an everlasting source? In other words, if you can't find the source to cut it off, how do you extinguish the fire? Christ Jesus is that everlasting source of fuel for the branches upon his vine/tree, those branches cannot stop producing fruit because the source is the imperishable life of Christ Jesus.

Song of Solomon 8:6 Set me as a seal on your heart, as a seal on your arm; for love is strong as death. Jealousy is as cruel as Sheol. Its flashes are flashes of fire, a very flame of Yahweh.

The problem with most Christian's they never find the source of fuel they take instead an inferior source of fuel labeling it truth by religious doctrine through some organizations. Such an inferior fuel source it highly combustible in works of the flesh, but it is not Holy Spirit found in the life source of Christ Jesus coursing through the branches on his vine.

Matthew 25:8 The foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'

James 5:14 Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the assembly, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.

Self-preservation is not a word associated with Christ or God/YHWH, there is no other life source for mankind than the life of the vine Christ Jesus. On must receive this life in the vine to have eternal life of Christ Jesus. For it is the eternal life of Christ in the vine, it is not the life of human on earth mixed with Christ eternal life, no! But why? For to be a branch on this vine a person must be dead to self, and a live to the life in the vine that being Christ Jesus eternal life too us.

James 3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth. 3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic. 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.

There can be no confusion for a born again Christian's about this matter, they as an individual person do not exist separate from the vine of Christ the source of eternal life for the fruit on the vine. Hence, the fruit on this vine of Christ Jesus must produce fruit of eternal life, not fruit of the flesh. The workings of our own hands are not the working of God for eternal life, but why? It is because common sense dictates the only source of eternal life is in the vine, not in our works outside the vine. One must faithfully lead others to the source of eternal life, not some business, or organized religion that does good works, by fleshly acts calling it Christ Jesus fruit.

James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brothers, until the coming of the Lord. Behold, the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient over it, until it receives the early and late rain.


Moreover, this is why so many have their faith in Christ destroyed in our world, by doing works outside the everlasting source of eternal life by Holy Spirit to find destruction of the faith, a fruit of the vine, Christ life flowing too its branches!

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,{or, faithfulness}

John15:3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.


How had the apostles Christ was speaking too here been pruned clean? First let us get in context Christ words spoken here. 1.) the apostles had not yet been anointed by God's Holy Spirit at this point. 2.) Moreover, once anointed by God's Holy Spirit after Christ death, and resurrection they immediately transformed from immature fleshly followers into mature spirit anointed pillars of the new formed Christian's congregation.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

So what was their pruning clean? Christ teaching them God's purposes for the Son of Man, going from Old Law into a New Covenant by being anointed by Holy Spirit which grafted them into Christ Jesus the tree/vine the life of the vine! The pruning was Christ teachings under the law removing dead wood, limbs cleaning them for the grafting, clearing the way to enter into a radical change of the New Covenant from the Old covenant. Going from a sight worship at a physical temple, into a faith worship, in unseen spiritual temple their reality, now in heaven by, faith.


John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

Without this pruning by Christ they would not have been prepared as being made apart of God's greater spiritual temple, making them God's resting place for His Holy name, in a spiritual temple represented by men and woman in their flesh as ambassadors to God invisible spiritual Kingdom. A Jew could not have imagine such a thing, such thinking was crazy, and apostasy, making no sense, from a demon possessed person after worshiping thousand''s of years at God's physical temple by sight and works of in Jerusalem.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.

Once made a part of the spiritual vine, by anointing of God's Holy Spirit these new person, who have been made new by Christ life indwelling them are branches on the tree. Being such, Christ Jesus life sanctifying them flowing into the branches of this vine. Hence, declaring them righteous before God. Now once in the vine there was no other life outside this life force in the vine for them, certainly not from the Old Law, the old person was dead under condemnation of sins laws it did not produce eternal life by it vine/tree. Such laws and/or person are dead in Christ, freed from God's wrath/judgment now ready to produce fruits not of works of law, but instead fruits of Holy Spirit these fruits having no laws of the flesh against them. This fruit would not be their fruit, it was fruit not under the law practiced in the life found in the tree of death and condemnation under the vine of the Old Law, no!

Rom.7:2 For the woman that has a husband is bound by law to the husband while he lives, but if the husband dies, she is discharged from the law of the husband. 7:3 So then if, while the husband lives, she is joined to another man, she would be called an adulteress. But if the husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she is joined to another man. 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God. 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

They were now under a new and better headship, the Law headship died with Christ, but these branches were made alive under the headship of Christ, God's new spiritual temple, where eternal life is found. Eternal life is not found upon earth, and is not created by human hands, under sins laws/works of law, but rather in heaven, created for God's glory, free from the corruption of sin and its laws. Hence, these branches are able to produce heavenly fruit, by the law of the new covenant, love, the law of Christ Jesus. Now they must worship not by sight, that is, by works of law, but in Spirit and truth, such is not found in any human organization upon earth for all men are liars as spoken by God's Holy Spirit, dying in the filth of their own flesh unable to put it away by some good work.

Matt. 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

John.15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Here is one of the most profound statements every made, and being made from Christ being the Truth of God its depth of truth is so deep it way over the head of most Christian's. Nothing in nature tells a Christian's that growth on a tree or a vine comes from a branch, or a fruits own life. Yet, so many Christian's do not believe this creation truth when its comes to their spiritual lives in producing fruit for God.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Christian's will fuss and lie to no end in telling you how you must obey some rule from the bible or their religion to produce God's fruit of Holy Spirit in yourselves. But Christ says he is the source of life producing fruit of God, not us, was Christ Jesus a liar? Did he mean that we could individually produce the gifts/fruit of Holy Spirit separately by our own efforts in obedience to a religion or commandments in the bible?

James 3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic. 3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed. 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

That is a choice which separates wheat Christian's from weed Christian's in walking by sight or in faith. If one walks by faith knowing they have no good thing dwelling in their sinful flesh, which has been put too death in Christ, than the words of Christ here makes perfect sense. But if they have a fleshly legal mind, which is, a weed Christian's mind, by works of law, dead works, not in Christ, Christ words here are meaningless babel alienated from God by the physical person mind and heart.

1Cor.2:14 Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 2:15 But he who is spiritual discerns all things, and he himself is judged by no one.

Christ profound statement tells spirit lead Christian's in Christ to rest in faith, all things of Christ Jesus life will be supplied to them through the life force within the holy righteous tree they were grafted into, but you must rest in the God's great Sabbath day the life of Christ Jesus.

Matthew 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

On the other hand, to a fleshly minded person, Christ words here are yet, one more judgment from a lack of faith. One must earn salvation through works of law to be a part of the vine, the life of vine does nothing for weed-Christian, they must do its all by the power of their own flesh in obedience to rule of law producing fruit from such obedience to religious and biblical laws.
Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.


John15:6 If a man doesn't remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


Jesus said many controversial things and this is one of them. Jesus stated that if a man looked at a woman with lust he had committed adultery with in his heart, he than stated the solution to that problem was to pluck out a person eye if they had a problem with lusting - looking at woman. Now if we didn't have the rest of the holy writing by Christ apostles people might actually pluck out their eye think it would stop their lust of their hearts!

Matt.5:29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna.{or, Hell} 5:30 If your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off, and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna.{or, Hell}

However, in context none of the apostles practices plucking out sinners eyes or cutting off their hands because such conduct does not change a man's heart. Instead we find kindness by the apostles teaching love, which does changes a person heart. We further have statements from the apostle Paul declaring no man every hated his own body but feeds and cherish it like Christ does his congregation. Subsequently, taking Christ words out of context to all the Holy Spirit led writings of his apostles will not help us understand Christ words above.

Many Jews rejected Christ whom were God's chosen people they were broke off of Israel like branches being rejected by a New Covenant replacing/fulfilling the Old law Covenant. Which allowed for Gentles to be grafted into the holy root stock of spiritual Israel, they reject God's love, in Christ Jesus.

Rom. 11:13 For I speak to you who are Gentiles. Since then as I am an apostle to Gentiles, I glorify my ministry; 11:14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh, and may save some of them. 11:15 For if the rejection of them is the reconciling of the world, what would their acceptance be, but life from the dead?
11:16 If the first fruit is holy, so is the lump. If the root is holy, so are the branches. 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them, and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree;

In other words, they rejected faith in God's Son choosing instead the Old Law through Moses, which law was not able to produce the fruit of God's Holy Spirit needed to by being grafted into Christ, hence, born again by God's Holy Spirit as a branch and fruit upon the tree of life, Christ Jesus, who is the last Adam, but still their more to Christ Jesus words above.

Paul made it clear in his letter to a Gentile congregation of Corinthian's that each person works would be shown up in the day of judgment, if their work was of this tree/vine, a fruit of Christ Jesus life, or a work done by a person own flesh. Here is the point which gives us context to Christ words above: “the work not of Christ would be destroyed by fire, but the person doing the work, they would not, instead they would be saved, but as if by fire.

Furthermore, Paul later speak in the same letter about the Lord's evening meal that a person eating it unworthy would come under judgment, but not with death in view, but life. Hence, in context with all the holy writings we see a clear picture of God's intention towards those chosen from the founding of the world, born again into the family of God, which proves in no way is their choosing haphazard as man choosing a person for a position, and it does not workout. God choosing is much more, eternal, Because He Himself creating the new born child before the founding of our world, God does not lose any of his children, but just as it is written lovingly disciplining them so their spirit may be saved into eternal life.

Rom. 8:33 Who could bring a charge against God's chosen ones? It is God who justifies. 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, yes rather, who was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Could oppression, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 8:36 Even as it is written, "For your sake we are killed all day long. We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter."{Psalm 44:22} 8:37 No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John.15:7 If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you.
15:8 "In this is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; and so you will be my disciples.

Can you or I remain in Christ Jesus by a work of law? No! We cannot, its that simple, we remain in Christ by our faith, a faith that is supplied too us by being in Christ, a gift of God's Holy Spirit. Have you noted that being in Christ is a catch twenty two? What does this mean?

Rom.12:3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.

It means there is no real faith acceptable to God outside of Christ Jesus, but why? Because Christ is the one person perfect in God's judgment, he was the only human too ever live sinlessly faithful too God onto death upon earth. Because of Christ actions in his flesh he was declared righteous by God's righteous Law given to Moses, no other human could boast in their flesh of being sinless, and/or declared righteous by their own works of law in the flesh!

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

Hence, all of us must be perfected through this one seed of God's planting, one body, and now we are being told by Christ Jesus here, this one vine, and/or the tree of life, Christ Jesus, the last Adam, we must stay in. Thus, our faith, righteousness, sanctification, holiness, and every other workings of God's Holy Spirit is entrusted in Christ Jesus life, which is the very life of this vine spoken of by Christ Jesus we must be attached to.

1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit.

There are no other works acceptable too God, there is no other foundation God will build his Spiritual Temple upon, there is no other way too produce fruit unless it is Christ Jesus fruit accept by God for God's works by His Holy Spirit. Every other effort by us, to justify ourselves by a good work, claiming it too be of Christ because it is written in our bibles, will perishes as a flower fading falling to the ground, having no usefulness in producing eternal fruits of everlasting life.

Hebrews 10:38 But the righteous will live by faith. If he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him."{Habakkuk 2:3-4}

This is the catch twenty two have you found it? Faith is a gift a fruit of Christ, without faith we cannot please God, nor can we have the life of Christ indwelling us making us righteous, sanctifying us making us holy, so we cannot stay in the true vine without Christ faith given us. Do you understand why laws for sin are negative, leaving us helpless, requiring us to produce enough good works to be acceptable too God, which according to Christ here, we cannot do?

But faith in Christ as completing the law, and our judgment frees us from self-justification by works a law accepting Christ life as saving us, his life as good enough to purchase us for God's glory. Hence, the catch twenty is gone by faith, but those living by works of laws there is no getting out of such a box the harder they works the more they find another catch twenty, putting them right back into the maze of sin and death!

John 8:24 I said therefore to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am he, you will die in your sins."

John 9:34 They answered him, "You were altogether born in sins, and do you teach us?" They threw him out.

John.15:9 Even as the Father has loved me, I also have loved you. Remain in my love.


Why is love the supreme moral law of God the Almighty YHWH? It is for the depth of seas stronger than death, and more powerful than our life sold under sin from Adam. Love is the law of the sinless, those freed by God from their sins, it is not the law of the wicked those under the power of the legal fleshly mind, no!

Revelation 2:4 But I have this against you, that you left your first love.

God's love atones every sin of the human race, if they chose by love to avail themselves of God's own love, what is God's own love? It is Christ Jesus a faithful son of God whom never has an evil action, or thought towards his beloved heavenly Father YHWH. God so loved this world that he gave us His most precious life, Christ Jesus. He allowed for the unmerciful hatred of the fleshly mind legal Jew's to destroy a perfect obedient life that went like an innocent lamb to the slaughter for us and them.

1 John 4:20 If a man says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who doesn't love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?

God resurrected this awesome perfect life which had never sinned into the incorruptible imperishable life filling it with the supreme moral law of love. When we walk in Christ Jesus we are sinless because of love, not because we can harshly judge other using a truth from our bibles, such hate does not remove sin, it is the life of Christ under the laws of Christ Jesus that removes our sins. God's love found in the life of Christ Jesus covers a multitude of our sins, and gives us a clean conscious before God. How do we have a clean conscious before YHWH? It not as false religion teaches, it is by the merit of God's Son Christ Jesus given too us by undeserved kindness of God's love towards us, which gives us our own relationship and standing before God.

1 John 4:16 We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.

1 John 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son as the atoning sacrifice{"atoning sacrifice" is from the Greek "hilasmos," an appeasing, propitiating, or the means of appeasement or propitiation--the sacrifice that turns away God's wrath because of our sin.} for our sins.

Sober up think clearly as spiritual minded son's of God, don't be fooled by the unrighteousness of merits earned outside of Christ by laws found in your bibles. Stand in the freedom of Christ free from judgment outside the darkness of self-righteousness, by self-merit, accept with all humility Christ Jesus life, God's undeserved kindness expressed in the living life of Christ freely given us as truth, and proof of God own righteous goodness. Remain in the true vine, walk in love, which is walking in Christ, Which fulfilled sins laws for us through his law of love for his Father, the perfect moral law none of us could obtain to. Let us have this imperishable life of Christ live in us, and work through us, by him.

1 John 4:9 By this God's love was revealed in us, that God has sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.

John.15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and remain in his love.

Which commandments is Christ speaking too here, and how many are there of his commandments? These are fair questions because some religion teach any suggestion coming from their leadership is not just a suggestion, but actually a commandment not to be broken without God's consequence!

Jesus said a lot of things we should do, hence, if men in leadership of position suggestions are considered commandments what of Christ words? Subsequently, like the Pharisees whom by their commandments made everyone unclean because they had so many of them that no one couldn't help but break them, so goes religions of our day.

Matt.5:28 but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. 5:29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna.{or, Hell}

1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Acts 11:8 But I said, 'Not so, Lord, for nothing unholy or unclean has ever entered into my mouth.'

Acts 11:9 But a voice answered me the second time out of heaven, 'What God has cleansed, don't you call unclean.'

Will, Christ commanded us to love one another, later we are told that love fulfills the Old Law, which means fulfills all of God's commandments. However, some will argue saying: “this is true, but Christ said his commandments, not the Old law commandments!”

Once again forgetting love does not add commandments it fulfills them into one, love.

Romans 13:9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet,"{TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"}{Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21} and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}

Romans 13:10 Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

But there is so much more here that it becomes impossible for a fleshly minded Christian's to even understand, and what is that? It is that a sinful person cannot keep God's commandments, or Christ commandments, those commandments become sin too them, but how? Simply put, they do not declare the person righteous, instead, they condemn us as not being able to keep those commandments, making us a sinner. Thus, the commandments become sin too us.

Rom.7:8 But sin, finding occasion through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of coveting. For apart from the law, sin is dead.

However, if God makes us part of Christ living life, then we are set free from sin, hence, we then keep his commandments, because we are sinless in Christ an able too keep them. So here we find the truth, one thought is of flesh in keeping written commandments, while the other is our actually keeping the commandments by remaining in Christ, our being declared sinless by Christ righteousness. One is in keeping the commandments based upon self-righteousness, while the other is based upon Christ righteousness, so how do you obey by works of law or faith?

Rom.7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good. 7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.

Romans 5:15 But the free gift isn't like the trespass. For if by the trespass of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God, and the gift by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many.

John 8:36 If therefore the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.


John 15:11 I have spoken these things to you, that my joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be made full. 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another, even as I have loved you.

All Christian's know that Christ is the foundation stone of our faith whom laid his life down for us, so we might have life. But often it ends there with a legal act, and a legal understanding of Christ sacrifice. When Christ laid his life down for us that we might live and have joy it is much more than paper and pen, its more than a doctrine of faith found in a religion, it means Christ not only gave his physical life for us, but lives in us!

1 Peter 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 John 5:20 We know that the Son of God has come, and has given us an understanding, that we know him who is true, and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Every thing written above by the apostle John in this part of his letter speaks to that exact point. Christ did not leave us alone, he did not say have joy, by legal definition, no! He gave us his living imperishable life including the fruit of joy, peace, and love. What commandment does your own body give the hand, foot, the heart, or the eyes? Can you audibly speak that commandment? Does writing it down on paper reading it out loud or reading from your bible make your body members obey your commandments, upon speaking such written communication?

1John 5:12 He who has the Son has the life. He who doesn't have God's Son doesn't have the life.

Colossians 3:4 When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory.

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

How foolish the mechanical legal mind becomes when digesting God's words reducing it down into physical commandments given by men in power over them by a religious body formed through laws of land. Shocking, a person one would believe that no man every hated his own body, but feeds and cherishes than compare the body of Christ with the harsh treatment of men in power using legal commencements to beat a slave into subject?

If we are to be in Christ, belonging to his body, than we must come up to a much higher standard of love than mankind dictating fleshly laws for convicting and punishing the flesh for its evils. We don't have flesh, we have the life of Christ Jesus indwelling us, and that life is a spirit-life, and it is eternal life, which we received when we can get away from the mundane works of law Christian's religion practice in the name of Christ Jesus.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me. That life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.


John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 15:14 You are my friends, if you do whatever I command you.

What did Christ command us too do? Will, the list is endless if we are honest person, or we can sum-up the perfection of truth by these words:

Romans 13:10 Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

But lets be honest here, Christ went beyond the law, he didn't just replace it with another list of laws to punish our flesh for sinning, something we cannot do according the God's word the bible. Christ righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisees under the law of the Moses. Whom were made righteous by atonement for their sins by animal blood. It is Christ superior blood, which is the righteousness exceeding the righteousness of the Pharisee's.

Matthew 5:20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
But to have Christ righteous as a Christian's we cannot walk in law and the works they produce, and what works did the law produce? Sin!

Romans 7:8 But sin, finding occasion through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of coveting. For apart from the law, sin is dead.

If we are a sinner, we are not in Christ, we are under the laws of the flesh and its mind, dead to the Christ. However, we cannot, not be a sinner. Hence, than we must be in a sinless life given too us, by God, to be sinless. Now if you go back and read in context the fifteenth chapter of John about the true vine than you will understand its truth.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Which truth profoundly confuses our fleshly mind; the new covenant is love, we must be walking in love, but who love? Not human love, that has failed the human race so badly, but God's love. God's love is found in Christ Jesus, so we must be in Christ, which means we are walking in love. If we are in God's love, Christ, we are sinless in God's eyes. This is the righteousness that exceeded the mundane blood of animal the Pharisee's used to atone for their own sins.

1 John 3:9 Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son as the atoning sacrifice{"atoning sacrifice" is from the Greek "hilasmos," an appeasing, propitiating, or the means of appeasement or propitiation--the sacrifice that turns away God's wrath because of our sin.} for our sins.

So in context, Christ was not laying a bunch of commandments up us, because he had done away with works of the law, which produces sin; Christ removed our sin casting them into the very sea far away from us by his righteousness.

Micah.7:18 Who is a God like you, who pardons iniquity, and passes over the disobedience of the remnant of his heritage? He doesn't retain his anger forever, because he delights in loving kindness.
7:19 He will again have compassion on us. He will tread our iniquities under foot; and you will cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. 7:20 You will give truth to Jacob, and mercy to Abraham, as you have sworn to our fathers from the days of old.

Rev.1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet like a dead man. He laid his right hand on me, saying, "Don't be afraid. I am the first and the last, 1:18 and the Living one. I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. I have the keys of Death and of Hades{or, Hell}.

So when you here Christian's start enumerating the many works of law under the banner of love, they think Christ put upon us! Please know death was defeated in Christ because he defeated sin, by his righteous life. There are no works of law for Christian's even if they are labeled by the word love. Love does not add judgment, nor does it promote sin, it removes our judgment, hence, our sins in Christ Jesus.

1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God remains in us, and his love has been perfected in us.

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.


John 15:16 You didn't choose me, but I chose you, and appointed you, that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain; that whatever you will ask of the Father in my name, he may give it to you.

The fleshly minded person can have a very one-sided view of their relationship with God and Christ, how they are adding to there good works, but Christ refused to let that presumption slip into the apostles minds by reiterating the thought expressed in the parable above of the true vine of Christ Jesus, and what is that?

Matthew 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.

which was they did not chose Christ neither did they individually make themselves into part of Christ the vine. Subsequently, neither could they produce any fruit for the Kingdom of God outside of the vine, they must stay in Christ to be of God's works upon earth. Now that Christ establishes this point, Christian's must not put faith in a religious organization, a person, place, or thing, because true worship does not exist outside of Christ, and if one does not have the Christ they can produce nothing of God's Kingdom.

Matthew 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

John 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

The fatal flaw of false religion is to believe because they promote some truth from the bible they are in the truth. Could the apostles have done a good work if they were not a part of Christ Jesus? In other words, lets say they used Christ words, or the words of the prophets did that mean they were in the truth? No it did not! In the truth is not a religious phase repeated like a parrot. What it means as Christ point out here, it meant being in the true vine, of himself.


Yes, to be in the truth one must be placed in the truth by God's choosing of them not some religious organization upon earth. God's truth, is Christ Jesus, not a bible, or teaching from a religious organization, and that was Christ point here!

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me.

The Jewish faith thought they had the truth, they did not presumptuous say like many in false religion teach today they were in the truth, no! They were given the truth by God through the prophet Moses in the way of the law. They thought there was life through keeping the law, but they were dead wrong. They like false religion cannot produce any life outside of the true vine of Christ Jesus. Hence, the life was in the world, and shortly the life would be killed by those claiming the truth of God. God would resurrect his Son Christ Jesus making him chief agent of life, responsible for eternal life for all Jew's and Gentile alike.

Acts 8:33 In his humiliation, his judgment was taken away. Who will declare His generation? For his life is taken from the earth."{Isaiah 53:7,8}

Rom.9:15 For he said to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."{Exodus 33:19} 9:16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy.


John 15:16 You didn't choose me, but I chose you, and appointed you, that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain; that whatever you will ask of the Father in my name, he may give it to you.


The fleshly minded person can have a very one-sided view of their relationship with God and Christ, how they are adding to there good works, but Christ refused to let that presumption slip into the apostles mind by reiterating the thought expressed in the parable above of the true vine of Christ Jesus, and what is that?

Matthew 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.

That they did not chose Christ neither did they individually make themselves into part of Christ the vine. Subsequently, neither could the produce any fruit for the Kingdom of God outside of the vine, they must stay in Christ to be of God's works upon earth. Now that Christ establishes this point, Christian's must not put faith in a religious organization, a person, place, or thing, because true worship does not exist outside of Christ, and if one does not have the Christ they can produce nothing of God's Kingdom.

Matthew 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

John 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

The fatal flaw of false religion is to believe because they promote some truth from the bible they are in the truth. Could the apostles
have done a good work if they were not a part of Christ Jesus? In other words, lets say they used Christ words, or the words of the prophet did that mean they were in the truth? No it did not! In the truth is not a religious word repeated like a parrot. What it means as Christ point out here being in the true vine, of himself.


Yes, to be in the truth one must be placed in the truth by God's choosing of them not some religious organization upon earth. God's truth, is Christ Jesus, not a bible, or teaching from a religious organization, and that was Christ point here!

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me.

The Jewish faith thought they had the truth, they did not presumptuous say like many in false religion teach today they were in the truth, no! They were given the truth by God through the prophet Moses in the way of the law. They thought there was life through keeping the law, but they were dead wrong. They like false religion cannot produce any life outside of the true vine of Christ Jesus. Hence, the life was in the world, and shortly the life would be killed by those claiming the truth of God. God would resurrect his Son Christ Jesus making him responsible for all eternal life for Jew and Gentile alike.

Acts 8:33 In his humiliation, his judgment was taken away. Who will declare His generation? For his life is taken from the earth."{Isaiah 53:7,8}

Rom.9:15 For he said to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."{Exodus 33:19} 9:16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy.


John 15:17 "I command these things to you, that you may love one another.

How does one command love? Moreover, how do we make someone love us, and is it still be love? Will, there's only two ways a person can go; one is by a fleshly mind under laws of sin, which is happy to make people love them or a religion, or there is God's love given freely. When God's love is given freely, it is a pure and holy sacrifice acceptable to God. Whereas, fleshly minded works of law love is an obligation given for a reward of doing some good work for God.

Rom.13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

Perhaps, the word commandments here has lost its real meaning over two thousand's years of fleshly minded men under the illusion a person could command someone too love them? However, its certainly not the context of Christ Jesus love for his own body or how a man is to love his wife. The context of this part of John's letter is about remaining in Christ as the true vine, something none of the apostles had yet become a part of, why?

Rom.13:9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet,"{TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"}{Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21} and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}
13:10 Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

Because it would require the Holy Spirit adoption of them into the vine or the body of Christ as son's of God. Furthermore, the law was still in effect over the apostles, and Christ, it was not yet completed by Christ righteous life. The commandment to love YHWH did not bring anyone to life, unless they accept Christ Jesus, but why? Because perfection was not through the law, it could not perfect that which could not be perfected, humans under sin.

Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near.

Perfection comes from the law of love, under the new covenant in Christ Jesus, not the law pointing up that we are all sinners. Hence, one could not be perfected by commandments to love God, one would have to died too that old personality thinking becoming new person in Christ Jesus life, but how? By God giving us the earned merit of Christ Jesus life as a free gift of his love. Now those in Christ walk in love, because they walk in Spirit, which means in Christ, and what is the law of Christ Jesus body? Love!

Eph.5:28 Even so husbands also ought to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself.
5:29 For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourishes and cherishes it, even as the Lord also does the assembly;
5:30 because we are members of his body, of his flesh and bones.
5:31 "For this cause a man will leave his father and mother, and will be joined to his wife. The two will become one flesh."{Genesis 2:24}
5:32 This mystery is great, but I speak concerning Christ and of the assembly. 5:33 Nevertheless each of you must also love his own wife even as himself; and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

Unfortunately, for most of the Jews whom made God's commandment to love God an obligation missed the gift of love from God in Christ Jesus. So too many Christian's obligate themselves, and others too a legal commandment to love God, and each others, only later to come to great disappointments. You see, my friend when tested by fire if love is only legal, a commandment, we blasphemy God good name, obligating God to remove our suffering, but God's love endure all things, believes all things and hopes all things, because God's love cannot fail us if its not based upon a legal commandment, but upon God's love given us freely in the life of Christ Jesus indwelling us.

James 1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does.


John15:18 If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. But because you are not of the world, since I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

There is an age old war that has raged since the birth of sin into our world, from the Garden of Eden flesh against Spirit, specifically, God Holy Spirit against the sinful thoughts of mankind. There is no dwelling between these two, they are as opposed to each other as light is to darkness, but false religion has always tried to mix flesh into Spirit creating a hodgepodge of religion babel!

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Christ speaks to his disciples the truth no one wants to here, they would not have peace upon earth in their flesh, instead tribulation 10-days all the days of their life in the flesh, but why? Simply, put God's Holy Spirit is against all the ways of our sinful flesh, he is not trying to reform it, he is killing the sinful flesh desires. This truth is not known too the world, it is known by those who are spirit, who have been born again out of sin into Christ Jesus. Hence, the world does work for them, no more than it did for Christ.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Many religions make there members a part of the world boasting in the materially sound educated families as an icon witness to the world, but Christ and none of his follower every did, nor were they the outstanding citizen of their times. Herein, is the confusion of false religion thinking that because they use God's word the bible, and don't go along with certain unrighteous practice they are a spiritual person. Such things are commendable, but it does not make them a part of Christ, hence, no part of the world.

1 Corinthians 2:12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God.

1 Corinthians 4:9 For, I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last of all, like men sentenced to death. For we are made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and men.

1 Corinthians 4:13 Being defamed, we entreat. We are made as the filth of the world, the dirt wiped off by all, even until now.

The context Christ speak to here is simple, if you are part of his life, not part of the bible, or a religion, than, and only than, are you no part of the world as Christ own life is no part of this world. Subsequently, if your no part of this world by Holy Spirit birth, than you are part of the heavenly Kingdom of God opposed to all the things of this world and its desires, hence, hated!

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's. 17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

Christ righteousness does not exist in a religion or a place upon earth, Christ righteousness exist in his body, a spiritual body, given to each member of his body as a temple for God, a spiritual temple. This temple is no part of this world, nothing within God's spiritual temple is sinful flesh, it is Holy Spirit which does not promote or reform the desires of our sinful flesh.

2 Peter 1:4 by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

1Cor.1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:


John.15:20 Remember the word that I said to you: 'A servant is not greater than his lord.'{John 13:16} If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will keep yours also. 15:21 But all these things will they do to you for my name's sake, because they don't know him who sent me.
Can the hand on the body of Christ not receive the same treatment as the body of Christ? Can a person educate the flesh not to attack the spirit? Is the mind of flesh opposed to the truth as day is to night? Sadly, our own fleshly mind tries hard to make peace between the flesh and the Spirit of God, but it cannot be done. The truth is peace cannot be made between flesh by the Spirit only compromise, polluting the light into darkness calling evil good.

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellence of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Christ never tried, nor did he worry himself trying to logic as to why the flesh hated the Spirit of God, do you honestly know why? God's own righteousness was opposed to Satan the Devil in the Garden of Eden, God did not logic explaining why He was hated, or why sin is opposed to His righteousness, it is an everlasting truth. Many Christian's do not understand a simple truth, when Christ completed or took our judgment he did so by completing the law judging us, most understand this, but they don't understand Christ than became God's righteousness. The law expressed God's righteousness, now Christ became YHVH righteousness.

2 Timothy 1:10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who abolished death, and brought life and immortality to light through the Good News.

1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption.

Hence, the hand on the body of Christ has God's righteousness, as Christ is God's righteousness, the conclusion of the matter, the age old prosecution continues. How can one be a branch, or fruit on the tree of true vine and not be hated? This is the context of Christ word here. The sinful flesh is not reformable, we within ourselves have a war with flesh against the Spirit each day as God's children, but we cannot educate the flesh to be nice and give us peace we want now, can we?

Galatians 6:12 As many as desire to look good in the flesh, they compel you to be circumcised; only that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ.

Colossians 2:23 Which things indeed appear like wisdom in self-imposed worship, and humility, and severity to the body; but aren't of any value against the indulgence of the flesh.

Galatians 5:24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

There are massive religious organization of fleshly minded people that will not be reformed into spirit person by education, they will not covert in massive numbers as some have imagined, from flesh into a son of God, by teaching them they are wrong, why? Sadly, it is the death of the flesh that allows the truth to exist. Individually within these groups will, at God's own will, through a painful experience in persecuting the son's of righteousness, causing them to hate their own flesh more, than Christ righteous indwelling a body member.

Galatians 4:29 But as then, he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now.

1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind; for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace; 7. because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be. 8. Those who are in the flesh can't please God.


John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have had sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

Such powerful words by the Son of God, Christ Jesus, although many Christian's since have used Christ words here to judge their enemies as having no excuse for not listening too their preachings this is not the context of Christ Jesus words here. Christ did not preach to the Jews people the law, Christ came to fulfill the law, by his own faith in his Father YHWH.

John 12:47 If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn't believe, I don't judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

Once Christ completed his ministry and was impaled by the Jew's the law was no longer validated by the blood of atonement through animal sacrifices. Hence, those Jews rejecting the Son of God, that is, his completing the old covenant now had sin, why? Simply put, they had no place to go for remission of sin under the old covenant completed by Christ Jesus.

John 12:48 He who rejects me, and doesn't receive my sayings, has one who judges him. The word that I spoke, the same will judge him in the last day.

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

Their judgment was self-in flicked they no longer could excuse their sins by trying to keep the law, thus, stating their was no other way to God without the law, and atonement for breaking God's laws. The message was not a judgment message as many Christian's believe by Christ it was a fact of Christ completing the old law that caused the judgment of the Jewish faith if they did not accept Christ blood. Simply put, they had no law, without Christ, they were indeed lawless in God's eyes because they had no atonement for sin in keeping a law fulfilled in Christ!

James 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge.

Romans 2:13 For it isn't the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified.

Romans 3:20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

Romans 7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

In other words, it was not about calling down evil upon people to frighten them into obedience to God. It was instead a lawful act upon YHWH part in removing the old law covenant by his Son's faith completing the earthly temple service for a better everlasting solution to mankind problem through the new covenant. What excuse could a Jews have, if God was providing the life of His own sons for remission of sin, and a Jew judgment, removed in fulfilling the law?

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh.

There could be no excuse when a Jews could not be declared righteous under the law without faith in animal blood atoning for their sins temporary year to year. Here Christ came to set them free from the curse of the law, what curse? The judgment of their sins year to year declaring them unfit to keep God's righteous law as a sinner. Now they could be declared righteous by Christ Jesus own righteousness and accepted as a son of God, without sin, provide they put faith in Christ Jesus the passover lamb of God.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Romans 13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.


John 15:23 He who hates me, hates my Father also.
15:24 If I hadn't done among them the works which no one else did, they wouldn't have had sin. But now have they seen and also hated both me and my Father. 15:25 But this happened so that the word may be fulfilled which was written in their law, 'They hated me without a cause.'{Psalms 35:19; 69:4}

How does one hated another without cause, how does one hate a brother or sister without hating God? This is an important question because many profess Christian's hate unwittingly their fellowman. The hate fomented against the Christ was judge against what? Shockingly, the very laws of God that were good and righteous!

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace.

What works did Christ do among the Jews that caused them to so totally misjudge the Christ? Simply put, the works of God's Holy Spirit, not works of law. You, see this is why they misjudged the Christ as wicked, because he was not doing what the Jews thought was righteous. Subsequently, if one appears not to obey the law, than they are wicked according to the law. But how does one judge a sinless man? Does a sinless man, need the Laws to convict him of sin? Did Adam need the Law of God to convict him of sin? In other words, did Adam receive a book of law from God, accusing him of wicked motives?

1Cor. 13:4 Love is patient and is kind; love doesn't envy. Love doesn't brag, is not proud, 13:5 doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil; 13:6 doesn't rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 13:8 Love never fails.


Here the Jews had their world, sinners deserved to be judged by God's law, hence, sin is evil so the Jew's imputed first evil by the law allowing them to hate brothers and sisters. Such hatred was considered righteous hatred because it was from the Law condemning sins against the law. The question in context to Christ teachings is, how can we hate by judgment of law without hating ourselves as a sinner? In other words, if a person is a sinner they cannot not sin, and the law only points out sin in us than judging another sinner is judging ourself.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever things the law says, it speaks to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God.

Romans 4:15 For the law works wrath, for where there is no law, neither is there disobedience.

Hence, we have a dichotomy, an unobtainable situation, a death we cannot get out of. Moreover, a death we ourselves promote when judging from the Law of God. Now that Jew's hated Christ without cause, hence, by judging him by God righteous and good law, Christ forgave them. In fact, removed their sins if they put faith in his righteousness fulfilling the law. How can we not be hated if we live in Christ under the law of love, where the whole world judges by the very laws Christ completed and finished for us. We will be hated without cause if we walk in Spirit and truth, where Christ lived without sin? Although, we have been made sinless by Christ life, we still fall far short, of human judgments of us, let us not be naïve.

Romans 5:13 For until the law, sin was in the world; but sin is not charged when there is no law.

Romans 5:20 The law came in besides, that the trespass might abound; but where sin abounded, grace abounded more exceedingly.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

John 15:26 "When the Counselor{Greek Parakletos: Counselor, Helper, Advocate, Intercessor, and Comfortor.} has come, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will testify about me. 15:27 You will also testify, because you have been with me from the beginning.

Mankind has for the most part apostatize from the truth of God since his fall into sin. God in his wisdom did not try to reform mankind through legislative bodies as the world does. Instead, God puts our deceptive flesh to death in Christ, having us be born again into a spirit body of Truth, the Christ, where God Himself teach us by the truth through Holy Spirit.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. 6:5 For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will also be part of his resurrection.

Truth could no longer be lost, no longer would mankind build a religion and within a few short years find it corrupted by wicked works of ambitious men/woman, and how did God do such a magnificent thing? Just as Christ spoke above in sending us the Holy Spirit, which is the truth. Here we find a contradiction for fleshly minded Christian's living in fear of judgments, how could the unseen be the truth, and not a law, a work of law, a commandment? Anyone can says they have the Holy Spirit and deceive many.

1John 5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.

It is because the truth is the Spirit, not the flesh, the flesh is the lie changing like standing under a tree when the sun past over shadows changing from darkness into light and back to darkness. But the Spirit is the light the actual Sun not the tree. The Sun comes from above and gives us light, those on earth under the tree do not know the light. But those born again by the light are in the light and know the truth.

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.

Moreover, this is why the truth can never be lost it is found in the imperishable life/light of Christ Jesus. But mankind have built many massive trees of, religion, government, and business, calling them the light when they are, but mere shadows. What do human do to make their creation seem like the light? They condone the evil for the good they are doing providing a corrupted pseudo fruit from their trees. What is a corrupted pseudo fruit, its not the imperishable life of Christ, but instead a mix bag of good and evil fruit, corrupting both into death, not one piece will give a person life. This is the deception for our human race whom are worshiping by sight instead of Spirit and Truth.

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers. 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Matt. 7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.

Completed on: October, 15, 2013

Written by: Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus