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Judgment Starts With The House of God

Luke 12:49 "I came to throw fire on the earth. I wish it were already kindled.

Many have sought the time of Christ judgment upon the wicked, longingly for his coming. They have sought dates, times and season, looked for signs in the Sun, Moon, and stars: “Where is this promise present of Christ?” The world cry's!

Yet, not realizing, the judgment started upon the house of God thousand's year ago! Christ is the house of God, it started upon Christ, and each of his body members since Christ walked this earth. A fire was started upon earth between God's Spirit and the corrupt flesh of mankind, did you know that? Christ was baptized by Holy Spirit a fire that destroys any sin which comes into contact with God's righteousness. No human can stand before God's holiness, let alone live!

Luke 3:16 John answered them all, "I indeed baptize you with water, but he comes who is mightier than I, the latchet of whose sandals I am not worthy to loosen. He will baptize you in the Holy Spirit and fire.

Mark 9:49 For everyone will be salted with fire, and every sacrifice will be seasoned with salt.

A Baptism by Fire

Mark 10:38 But Jesus said to them, "You don't know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?"

Holy Spirit is lye to sin, it removes all stain of sin, killing its filth, destroying its desires, but the fire does not come from flesh and its will or desires, it comes down from above, from God too us, but how? By the baptism in Christ. The baptism Christ started on earth, by Christ own anointing, being born again, not by flesh and blood, but by God's Holy Spirit, which Holy Spirit cannot resided with sin at all, no sin exist in God, and/or his Holy Spirit, so an up close and personal refinement started at work against the power of darkness in each member of the body of Christ attached to the one true vine of Christ life, the light.

Jeremiah 2:22 For though you wash yourself with lye, and use much soap, yet your iniquity is marked before me, says the Lord Yahweh.

Malachi.3:1 "Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me; and the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, behold, he comes!" says Yahweh of Armies. 3:2 "But who can endure the day of his coming? And who will stand when he appears? For he is like a refiner's fire, and like launderer's soap; 3:3 and he will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi, and refine them as gold and silver; and they shall offer to Yahweh offerings in righteousness.

Sin Does Not Exist in Christ Righteousness

They key to flesh coming into contact with God's Holy Spirit causing a refinement instead of death in our life on earth is for the person to exist in Christ righteousness letting him be our head, that is, our mediator. Christ himself under went this baptism by fire, being made into the “likeness” of sin, but not a sinner, where the flesh lust against the Spirit of God in a violent war, a fire of lye, removing the dross of sins working in the flesh. Christ, however, came from above as the perfect lamb of God without sin, thus, sin cannot be accounted against a sinless person which made Christ righteous, meaning without sin. God gave us his righteousness, but how?

1 Corinthians 1:30 But of him, you are in Christ Jesus, who was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one.

He killed our old man, that is, our flesh that had sin past onto us by Adam. He took our judgment of sin, causing death, by making us a member of his own body giving us his life and his death. We are buried in Christ and raised in Christ. Meaning because we are not our old selves, but belong new to Christ as his body, and/or the household of God, our sins of past deeds of the flesh are dead, absolved, not accounted against us, once for all times because in Christ we are sinless, not accounted alive in our fallen old flesh before God's judgment, we have received Christ righteousness as his body members, freed of death and its judgments, we are in life, that is, the eternal life of Christ freed of human corruption from sins and their evil thoughts found in the old corrupted fleshly mind.

Rom.8:31 What then shall we say about these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 8:32 He who didn't spare his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how would he not also with him freely give us all things? 8:33 Who could bring a charge against God's chosen ones? It is God who justifies. 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, yes rather, who was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Fire Thrown to The Earth

Each body member is raised into Christ where he is seated above in perfect peace with Christ, upon his throne of righteousness, but the members also lives in the flesh on earth, in a vessel, being made into the likeness of sin, they have been created in the likeness of his death, and resurrection (life), but also the likeness of sin. Sins are not accounted against them by having Christ righteousness. Thus, the power of death through sin lust against the power of life in us, Christ righteousness in each body member, that is, the life of Christ indwelling them, a fire storm cast to the earth when God sent as Christ promised the Holy Spirit as their comforted, and teacher.

Revelation 3:18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may become rich; and white garments, that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see.

Peter 1:7 that the proof of your faith, which is more precious than gold that perishes even though it is tested by fire, may be found to result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ--

Hebrews 12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.{Deuteronomy 4:24}

1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire.

Luke 3:17 whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his threshing floor, and will gather the wheat into his barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

This is the judgment of God, first upon his own household, the body of Christ, God's temple, which we are. The death of the flesh by contact of the Holy Spirit allowing a refinement of faith, that is, a transfer into Spirit. the love of God, in Christ, into his kingdom without the complete destruction of the person spirit life when in God's presents. No sinner can see God and live. There is a sin not causing death, sin God does not account against us, hence, sin absolved of, which cannot be charged against God's holy ones.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God. If it begins first with us, what will happen to those who don't obey the Good News of God?

1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God doesn't sin, but he who was born of God keeps himself, and the evil one doesn't touch him.

Life at Work in us by Death

We are dead to sin, sin dwells in our fallen flesh, but we are in Christ (Spirit) and we have received his righteousness, so our flesh is dead to God's judgment only! That does not mean its still does not exist, and lust against the Spirit because its cannot stop lusting against the Spirit of God being 180-degrees in opposition to Christ righteousness.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased Yahweh to bruise him. He has caused him to suffer. When you make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed. He shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of Yahweh shall prosper in his hand.

1 Peter 3:14 But even if you should suffer for righteousness' sake, you are blessed. "Don't fear what they fear, neither be troubled."{Isaiah 8:12}

2 Timothy 3:12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

2 Thessalonians 1:5 This is an obvious sign of the righteous judgment of God, to the end that you may be counted worthy of the Kingdom of God, for which you also suffer.

1 Peter 2:21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving you{TR reads "us" instead of "you"} an example, that you should follow his steps,

This is why we all have a spirit of envy in us, from death (Adams life) found in the lust of our flesh. Subsequently, death works in us, but life conquers death by the life of Christ in us which is incorruptible. This tribulation upon earth flesh lusting against Spirit causing a fire baptism is the greatest tribulation to have ever occurred upon earth for God's righteous children. That is, God's household, which is God's Spirit temple.

1 Corinthians 4:9 For, I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last of all, like men sentenced to death. For we are made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and men.

1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

2 Corinthians 1:9 Yes, we ourselves have had the sentence of death within ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead.

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Two thousand's years of tribulation upon God's righteous temple by the assault of the flesh. Such a tribulation will never occur again upon earth, when it is finish than will the same tribulation be brought upon mankind in general. But how will they stand, if not absolved of sin?

Romans 8:10 If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness.

Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire.

How will they be put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit if they have no comfort from the Holy Spirit? Christ threw fire to the earth by contact with Holy Spirit against the flesh, but he also gave us a comforter in God's love by the same Holy Spirit when we are killed from the flesh like sheep lead to the slaughter, resurrecting us into the Spirit, in Christ, sometime daily? This is the judgment the same judgment all nations and people will under go, once God finish his work on his household (it is a strange work). Death is working in our flesh, but life work in us perfected our faith daily, like sheep lead against their will flesh, but also the will of Christ in us, by the power of being made into the likeness of sin for setting the creation free from corruption of sin, and death found in the dead mind of flesh, sin past onto us from death Adam.

Rom. 8:20 For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 8:21 that the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of decay into the liberty of the glory of the children of God. 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now. 8:23 Not only so, but ourselves also, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for adoption, the redemption of our body.

The struggle between light and darkness, that is, Christ righteousness brings all such darkness causing death into captivity through the mind of Christ given us freely by God's love. Such suffering is what Christ went through as our leader, and perfecter of our faith, he suffered in his flesh, the fire of baptism of Holy Spirit. The stench of death is ugly, the flesh is of no value at all, accept to say it is the fertilizer for the Spirit growth.

1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.

2 Corinthians 10:5 throwing down imaginations and every high thing that is exalted against the knowledge of God, and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ;

2 Corinthians 2:15 For we are a sweet aroma of Christ to God, in those who are saved, and in those who perish; 2:16 to the one a stench from death to death; to the other a sweet aroma from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things?

Judgment Ends Upon God's Temple

Let us understand that what ever measure we measure will be measure back to us. God allowed the removal of the restrain the power of Holy Spirit for the judgment of his household to start, such judgment was a clash of flesh lusting against the Spirit corrupting the holy congregation of God, a trampling if you will, within in short order. What took thousand's of years to do with the physical Israel was accomplished with mere generation in the congregation of God's Spirit temple polluting it with fleshly weeds.

Matt. 7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Matthew 13:38 the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the children of the Kingdom; and the darnel weeds are the children of the evil one.

Matthew 13:40 As therefore the darnel weeds are gathered up and burned with fire; so will it be at the end of this age.

Thus, weeds of flesh sprung up, covering the field of God's planting by Holy Spirit. Flesh ruled the teaching of God's children, soon religion and power would be accumulated into massive religious governments by those sames laws abolishes against the body of Christ God's temple. God's wheat we under tribulation, a judgment of the body of Christ, God's household grew fleshly by lusting against the Spirit weaken it to the point of getting a little help, not the overflowing joy of Holy Spirit which is the will of Christ body before the restrain was removed. But the question is, what is the will of the flesh, the weeds? Its not the will of Christ, God's will by Holy Spirit that which leads the wheat, not their own will. So what is the restrain God must take away from the weeds, measuring out what has been measure out to his righteous sinless temple, Christ and his body members?

1 Corinthians 2:4 My speech and my preaching were not in persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power.

1 Corinthians 4:20 For the Kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

What restrain the flesh from blurting out every vile thing found in it heart? The power of its own will strengthen by laws of the flesh, not regular laws, but God's holy laws, stolen like waters for false religion Babylon the Great. Thus, a loosen up of the restrain of the flesh, self will, which reinforced by laws of the flesh, the same laws that killed the Spirit of God, removing its power to keep out the weeds in his field.

Luke13:18 He said, "What is the Kingdom of God like? To what shall I compare it? 13:19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and put in his own garden. It grew, and became a large tree, and the birds of the sky lodged in its branches." 13:20 Again he said, "To what shall I compare the Kingdom of God? 13:21 It is like yeast, which a woman took and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of flour, until it was all leavened."

Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

There will be no sticking together of iron and clay, the nations will reel like drunks exposing every work in them as corrupt, not lasting and beautiful, even the wise leaders will barf up evil and wickedness exposing the truth of the fleshly heart, and what is that? It cannot be reformed, it cannot remove sin from its own heart by laws of death the flesh, it cannot stop thinking and doing evil to others, it is a grave, an open pit hid from the eyes of other humans by words from lies restrained by God's moral laws . Words stolen, words have will have no power over the will of the flesh any longer at Christ coming.

Luke 6:45 The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings out that which is good, and the evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings out that which is evil, for out of the abundance of the heart, his mouth speaks.

Mark7:15 There is nothing from outside of the man, that going into him can defile him; but the things which proceed out of the man are those that defile the man. 7:16 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!"

Mark.7:18 He said to them, "Are you thus without understanding also? Don't you perceive that whatever goes into the man from outside can't defile him, 7:19 because it doesn't go into his heart, but into his stomach, then into the latrine, thus making all foods clean?" 7:20 He said, "That which proceeds out of the man, that defiles the man. 7:21 For from within, out of the hearts of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, sexual sins, murders, thefts,
7:22 covetings, wickedness, deceit, lustful desires, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, and foolishness. 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."

Haggai 2:12 'If someone carries holy meat in the fold of his garment, and with his fold touches bread, stew, wine, oil, or any food, will it become holy?'" The priests answered, "No."

God will in a twinkling of eye restore the restrain to his wheat, for remember though they sinned those sins were not accounted, they were put upon them by over powering growth of weeds in their field trampling and polluting the pure unadulterated words of God which must feed them for Holy Spirit strength.

1 Corinthians 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed.

Let none think human efforts, human understanding restores the power of God's kingdom over his children. They were born again without human power or will, conceived by God. They were given righteousness from Christ life, by God's will and not man. Man pollutes God's righteousness if walls are taken down. God allowed that judgment to happen for two thousand's years now, so the righteous measure could be measure back upon those lusting for power and control.

Psalms 50:18 When you saw a thief, you consented with him, and have participated with adulterers.

Proverbs 6:30 Men don't despise a thief, if he steals to satisfy himself when he is hungry:

Jeremiah 2:26 As the thief is ashamed when he is found, so is the house of Israel ashamed; they, their kings, their princes, and their priests, and their prophets;

Zechariah 5:4 I will cause it to go out," says Yahweh of Armies, "and it will enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him who swears falsely by my name; and it will remain in the midst of his house, and will destroy it with its timber and its stones."

John 10:1 "Most certainly, I tell you, one who doesn't enter by the door into the sheep fold, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

John 10:10 The thief only comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I came that they may have life, and may have it abundantly.

The anger through judgment of the flesh, will come with fire is brought upon the flesh a refinement that opens the flood gates of mankind heart condition, those are the elements that boil up, melt, but all that is left is other flesh which flesh will hate and destroy. What is said in the darkness of ones heart will be spoken from the house top, none will be fooled as to the progress the human race has made with all knowledge, technology, religion, government, and commerce, what the nations shall see is the truth. Mankind cannot rule himself, he is not a god, or does he change one from a sinner into a non sinner because he uses strong measure against the flesh. He will soon see all sin is death, every thought and action.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

2 Peter 3:12 looking for and earnestly desiring the coming of the day of God, which will cause the burning heavens to be dissolved, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?

Lawlessness will rule, because there are no real laws in human hearts, there is judgment of others, and a exempting of themselves from judgment by rationalizing some good motive they have. When the heart is exposes the beauty coming from good words will perish by the ugly secret actions all will see. Than Christ words will be known; “A corrupt tree cannot produce good fruit.”

Proverbs 19:28 A corrupt witness mocks justice, and the mouth of the wicked gulps down iniquity.

Proverbs 21:3 To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to Yahweh than sacrifice.

Isaiah 4:4 when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from its midst, by the spirit of justice, and by the spirit of burning.

Isaiah 28:17 I will make justice the measuring line, and righteousness the plumb line. The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters will overflow the hiding place.

Nothing new has happen on earth producing a righteous moral society lasting in peace and love for mankind, every facet is violence, built on war, fueled by judgments. Those thinking they are kind and liberal will be just as ugly and judgmental as those upholding the laws they hate. The secret war against brother and sister hid behind by words, lying words covered by argument of good motive will be written on their face so without word judgment will occur just as it does every day in the life of fleshly mind people hidden by curtains of darkness concealing the truth of the heart.

James.3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?
3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic.
3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.
3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Let none think God's judgment comes from man's hands, or that it will be hidden by some scheme of Satan, there will be no doubt the heart will be set a flame, just as God's own children have experience by the sword of Christ righteousness dividing the soul from the spirit, nothing will be concealed, this is not man's judgment which only comes upon those they chose not to like. Satan, and mankind have has thousand's of years to fix the hearts of mankind, isn't that the boast of the flesh? That self-goodness rules the day, good will always save mankind, they will always do the right thing they don't need God rulership over them.

Psalms 75:4 I said to the arrogant, "Don't boast!" I said to the wicked, "Don't lift up the horn.

Psalms 94:4 They pour out arrogant words. All the evildoers boast.

Psalms 97:7 Let all them be shamed who serve engraved images, who boast in their idols. Worship him, all you gods!

Proverbs 27:1 Don't boast about tomorrow; for you don't know what a day may bring forth.

What will happen when truth becomes known, what will happen to the idols of men when words and actions are just as filthy, and unrighteous, as the worst of mankind? Where will they run to boast in coming up to an enlighten society, when the very best they have produced has drug us down further than the least educated in the history of mankind, where is the boasting? Has human intelligent put away the filth of the flesh, or made it worst?

1Cor.1:18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are dying, but to us who are saved it is the power of God.
1:19 For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, I will bring the discernment of the discerning to nothing."{Isaiah 29:14}
1:20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the lawyer of this world? Hasn't God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1:21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom didn't know God, it was God's good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save those who believe.
1:22 For Jews ask for signs, Greeks seek after wisdom,
1:23 but we preach Christ crucified; a stumbling block to Jews, and foolishness to Greeks, 1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.
1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 1:26 For you see your calling, brothers, that not many are wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, and not many noble;

Look up, compare the mountain of God, elevated above every mountain on earth, were is the war, where is the hate, and lack of peace, where is the harsh hateful judgments, where is Adam's sin, where is the old personality loving the world? Gone! God has proven faithful and true, yes, he has, not us, not man, YHWH has made all things new!

Rev.21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more.
21:2 I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready like a bride adorned for her husband.
21:3 I heard a loud voice out of heaven saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with people, and he will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God.
21:4 He will wipe away from them every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away."
21:5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words of God are faithful and true."

Completed: March, 14, 2016

Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus

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Daily Bible Thought: Beaten With Many Stripes

Luke.12:47 That servant, who knew his lord's will, and didn't prepare, nor do what he wanted, will be beaten with many stripes, 12:48 but he who didn't know, and did things worthy of stripes, will be beaten with few stripes. To whoever much is given, of him will much be required; and to whom much was entrusted, of him more will be asked.

Here is an important question? When does God beat these slaves with stripes? We are clearly told Christ would come in a hour which his servant would not know, and if they were doing what they had been assigned the reward of all his belongings would be rewarded them!

Rom. 8:33 Who could bring a charge against God's chosen ones? It is God who justifies. 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, yes rather, who was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Could oppression, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
8:36 Even as it is written, "For your sake we are killed all day long. We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter."{Psalm 44:22}
8:37 No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

We know for certain that Christ himself was a faithful slave, and/or servant of God, his death came at God's prescribed time and he was rewarded all of God's belongings upon his resurrection but not before. The apostle Paul speak of a time that God's temple, which is the body of Christ would be tested as if by fire, and anything not built upon Christ the foundations would be consumed by fire? In other words, anything of the flesh, the will of the flesh, and works of our flesh not created by the Holy Spirit cannot be added to Christ, instead it would be rejected as faulty material and consumed by fire of Spirit as not of Christ, it would be shown up, to all, and even the slaves of Christ as not the truth, that is, not for the building of God's temple, the house of God Christ was entrusted with as a faithful Son of God.

Hebrews 3:6 but Christ is faithful as a Son over his house; whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the glorying of our hope firm to the end.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and is able to discern the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

This would causes much suffering and shame, stripes as it were, a beating by humiliation of all that we have worked so hard for in the name of Christ on earth only to be shown up as a lie! But let us note, we are told the person themselves would be saved, and not consumed by the fire. In Luke chapter twelve Christ also speaks of a baptism by fire, what does that mean? It means the houses of God under goes a judgment, but why? Simply because Spirit consumes fallen flesh, flesh cannot stand in the power of Holy Spirit, subsequently, let none of us forget we are the temple of God, so what is going to happen to are fleshly thoughts?

1Cor.11:27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks the Lord's cup in a manner unworthy of the Lord will be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread, and drink of the cup. 11:29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, if he doesn't discern the Lord's body. 11:30 For this cause many among you are weak and sickly, and not a few sleep.
11:31 For if we discerned ourselves, we wouldn't be judged.
11:32 But when we are judged, we are punished by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

Those fleshly thoughts are coming into judgment if we are truly his, Christ Jesus, but the question remains when does the master appear and discipline his servants, so that they are not lost, but saved although they under go judgment, and/or discipline of having their works tested as if by fire? The judgment of God's house started upon the out pouring of Holy Spirit, that is, the baptism by fire, under going the sanctification of Holy Spirit the putting to death of the flesh, where the flesh lust against the Spirit, which is Christ righteousness, not our personal righteousness, but the life of Christ in us.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

An entire nation of God's people were brought down, how, by accusing a sinless man of sin. In other words, here is the point, a sinner cannot judge a sinless person without their own judgment coming upon them. One can look into a mirror and judge the person looking back at them only to find out they have judged themselves worthy of death. Sin imputed to Christ a sinless person is unwittingly killing Christ, at least in our judgment of him, which means we have judged ourselves because Christ cannot be judged being he is sinless, he is life for that reason without sin. We have judged from what? Sin, in our own fallen flesh, we are not qualified to judge sinlessness, at all, because we are tainted by sin, we cannot know the truth of a sinless person. Because the truth of Christ can have no accusation of any kind leveled against him without it killing us the accuser, that is, bouncing off the perfect mirror back onto us as a sinner deserving of the judgment of sin, death!

James.1:23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror; 1:24 for he sees himself, and goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does.

1Cor. 4:1 So let a man think of us as Christ's servants, and stewards of God's mysteries. 4:2 Here, moreover, it is required of stewards, that they be found faithful. 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self. 4:4 For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord. 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

Hence, those in Christ are under judgment while left in a vessel of sinful flesh upon earth, which vessel has the life, holy life, righteous life, of Christ indwell them. A war of fleshly daily lust against the life of Christ, such is a fire of refinement, the judgment of God's house, the discipline of our Fathers a scourging at times, a constant consuming of our works not found in Christ. We cannot bring such things into the house of God without the immediate death to our fleshly thoughts/works putting us into a death state alienated from Christ until God undeserved kindness resurrects us back into the life of Christ.

1 Corinthians 4:9 For, I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last of all, like men sentenced to death. For we are made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and men.
2 Corinthians 1:9 Yes, we ourselves have had the sentence of death within ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead.

2 Corinthians 4:10 always carrying in the body the putting to death of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.

2 Corinthians 4:11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus may be revealed in our mortal flesh.

2 Corinthians 4:12 So then death works in us, but life in you.

Those in Christ under go this sanctification their entire life, the judgment does not end until God calls them into Son everlasting kingdom declared before angles they are apart of the first and only faithful slave Christ Jesus, their judgment all the days of their flesh has been for life in view, their own life, not only theirs, but the setting free of the whole creation in to life, setting it free of the judgment upon sin. At that time the reward of Christ in Spirit and truth will become theirs as well because they are the body, the temple of God, as Christ is God's, so we are Christ, not many faiths, not many seeds, but one, one hope, one faith, one baptism, one anointing, one God, one Christ, and us a part of them as one.

Romans 8:28 We know that all things work together for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to his purpose.

Romans 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things. To him be the glory for ever! Amen.

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we live through him.

The beating cannot start after the first resurrection, once God's children are glorified, it must happen before they received incorruptibility of Christ life as theirs. It happens, while in their flesh, each day, as the baptism by fire, causing division with everyone they come into contact who walk in their flesh, they are no part of the flesh of this world. The flesh lust against the Spirit of righteousness indwelling them by the life of Christ. We should not be puzzled at the this burning among us, as if a strange thing is happening if we belong to Christ. We should understand this is the fire Christ started that his very soul was distress with it, the fire he threw to earth in anointing his disciple with his own anointing. It is our endurance to the end of this tent, this vessel made into the likeness of sin we walk in faith to over come this world. Than as Christ himself experienced God declaration of calling him faithful assigning him all things in heaven and upon earth as his inheritances. But note not until he finished his course, until than he suffered in his flesh mightily, let us not be fooled if we belong to him we have suffered in the war of flesh against Spirit, but not beyond what is common practice of the sinful flesh among mankind that is our position and future job to be made into vessels of mercy for God's glory.

Hebrews 5:7 He, in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and petitions with strong crying and tears to him who was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear.

Hebrews 12:9 Furthermore, we had the fathers of our flesh to chasten us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live?

cts 8:33 In his humiliation, his judgment was taken away. Who will declare His generation? For his life is taken from the earth."{Isaiah 53:7,8}

Philippians 3:21 who will change the body of our humiliation to be conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working by which he is able even to subject all things to himself.

Heb.1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds. 1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 1:4 having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have. 1:5 For to which of the angels did he say at any time, "You are my Son. Today have I become your father?"{Psalm 2:7} and again, "I will be to him a Father, and he will be to me a Son?"{2 Samuel 7:14; 1 Chronicles 17:13} 1:6 Again, when he brings in the firstborn into the world he says, "Let all the angels of God worship him."