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Stolen Vessels

Who sanctifies a vessels of God? Who created the vessels? Here is the problem the flesh it cannot be in subjection to God, the anointed flesh is dead to God, they now live in Christ their vessel flesh is dead, they carry the life of Christ in their vessel of fallen flesh, some wanted to continue blaming the vessel putting it back under God's wrath (law), which makes God a liar. Did God remove the vessels judgment or not? Did he kill the flesh putting it into a coffin or not? Did he cast our sins into the very sea to be remember no more> Does a man have the power to resurrect the dead by his fleshly judgment against God's vessels?

Romans 9:21 Or hasn't the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel for honor, and another for dishonor?

Romans 9:23 and that he might make known the riches of his glory on vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory,

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in clay vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves.

Now when God's vessels were taken from the temple of Jerusalem in the past into Babylon did God punish the vessels? Did he blame the vessel and put them 70-years of captivity upon them? Rather did God destroy those misusing his holy vessels?

Daniel 5:23 but have lifted up yourself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before you, and you and your lords, your wives and your concubines, have drunk wine from them; and you have praised the gods of silver and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which don't see, nor hear, nor know; and the God in whose hand your breath is, and whose are all your ways, you have not glorified.

It is the miss treating of God's sacred vessels that causes judgment upon the flesh, it is the trampling of temple stones made holy that bring judgment upon all the nations. The stones, or the vessel of God do not have a will of their own, they do not get up and walk into false religion they are stolen, taken by the enemies of God for unholy uses.

Rom. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"} 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

Rom.8:30 Whom he predestined, those he also called. Whom he called, those he also justified. Whom he justified, those he also glorified. 8:31 What then shall we say about these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 8:32 He who didn't spare his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how would he not also with him freely give us all things? 8:33 Who could bring a charge against God's chosen ones? It is God who justifies. 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, yes rather, who was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

Now let talk about living stones, who created the stones? When Jerusalem was destroyed did the stones of temple sin against God? Or did the fleshly acts of the people against temple stone of God's causes God's wrath? The anointed are declared righteous by God, in Christ, they are God's chosen vessel, and living stones because indwells them the judgment now and in the future for all humans will not be upon the stones or vessels it is upon all flesh, the controversy is with all flesh not just some found in the WTS. The wrath of God is not upon his son's, it is unwittingly upon the flesh for their harsh treatment of God's holy vessels, and/or stones. The flesh cannot know the Spirit it is opposed to the Spirit and will every time kill the what is holy to God its unrighteous judgments of the flesh.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

John 1:13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God didn't appoint us to wrath, but to the obtaining of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we will be saved from God's wrath through him.

Matt.25:31 "But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory.
25:32 Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 25:33 He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 25:34 Then the King will tell those on his right hand, 'Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 25:35 for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. 25:36 I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.' 25:37 "Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? 25:38 When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you?
25:39 When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?'
25:40 "The King will answer them, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers{The word for "brothers" here may be also correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."}, you did it to me.'
25:41 Then he will say also to those on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels;
25:42 for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink;
25:43 I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.'
25:44 "Then they will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn't help you?'
25:45 "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of the least of these, you didn't do it to me.'
25:46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." 7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.

Matt.7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you. 7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye?
7:4 Or how will you tell your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye?

This conversation is much like the man who takes what isn't his, a man's wife, he defiles her, beats her, judges her as prostituted by verses from the bible. Then says: “I am the victim she needs to be punish by God for her evil acts!”