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Wilderness or Promise Land?

So Jesus is the promise land we will get into Christ later according to you, so, after how much time in the wilderness does God's anointed spend before they are allowed into Christ again? Are you saying no one is “in Christ” today, and all of God's people are “in the wilderness” only? Are you saying none are declared sinless by the life of Christ today, or raised up with Christ seated above with him any longer since being in the wilderness? Which means God's anointed are no longer taught by Holy Spirit being rebellious sinners forbidden from being in Christ until the discipline is finished?

So how is it we earn the right to be in the promise land, Christ? Is it after by five years in the wilderness, ten, twenty, fifty? Furthermore, what work does one need to do in the wilderness toget out of it back into Christ?

False religion started in one person, and ended in Christ. Every person in their fallen flesh is in false religion, it cannot be reformed. No matter how much good bible we put into it, sin, flesh, will create yeast teachings, the fallen flesh cannot stop putting yeast into unleavened bread.

God did not reform the fallen flesh, he kills it in Christ, but left his anointed in the corruption of their flesh. They are still declared righteous, being acquitted of sin which puts them in Christ by having his eternal life dwell in them as God's manna. (no disconnection in a body member unless its sawed asunder and dead) God by his power in Christ is conquering the thoughts of our fallen flesh (death) by Christ life in each anointed child of God, the life of Christ is the power over death, which is in each anointed child of God.

When in the flesh they are dead to the Spirit, but not dead to God's love, there is no middle ground a yes, and a no, anything in-between is false religion, the play ground of the evil one. This process which you don't seem to understand, is as long as they are in the flesh. But you fail to understand this process can be daily, in Christ the Spirit, and death in the flesh.
When alienated by the flesh from the mind of Christ, the Spirit, one is dead in the wilderness, they live in all the hates, worries, fights, and lack of love the fallen flesh has been born into from sin. The flesh is not waiting to be in Christ, nor will it be perfected in Christ, it is dead, to God and Christ. It was put to death is judgment at anointing, though it goes on, it not with destruction in view but life for God's children. They are not in works of law either way? The have already freely been given the life of Christ without their works or merit.

Christ intercede for us in this death state by his power of life, killing the thoughts of the flesh and put the person into paradise, thoughts of the mind of Christ (life, Spirit). This is the process all of God's anointed are going through being translated into life, by the death of the thoughts of the fleshly mind. This is the process that will set creation free.

Being in Christ means one goes through this training as Christ himself did daily. The process can stop a few days after being anointed when the person dies, or it can continue as long as Jehovah God lets it. False religion ended in Christ, that can be every day, or in a twinkling of eye when the fleshly mind is dead and we walk in Spirit. Which means love, not necessarily a complete understanding of every verse in the bible, it was a lack of love that started all false religion by sin. We are perfect in love. Love does not live in the past, death, or the future, it is right now, it is life right now!

Each anointed child of God is the body of Christ cherish, just as we love our own flesh, and feed and cherish it. It is our faith, being perfected in the power of the life indwelling us. Do those patterns of disobedience in the Hebrew scriptures effect us? Yes, if we are in the flesh, in death, the past, those patterns are found in every man, woman, and child born into sin, which is death the past not Christ life, now, walking in life, in God's love.

But as well, those pattern (death) were conquered and completed in Christ while on earth. Death has no power over Christ (he is life), Christ has power over both the keys of Hades and death. That power is found in each child of God as the life of Christ since their anointing. It is finish, completed if we believe.

We enter into God's rest by faith not works, we cannot be disobedient and be in Christ (God's rest), nor can we make ourselves not disobedient in our flesh, we can request a good conscience in Christ, and be found in God's unmerited kindness, translated undeserved kindness, and/or grace. Anything outside of that is not in Christ, nor is it life.

The flesh is works of law, it cannot stop justifying itself by works, the flesh is dead, outside of Christ, all people are in false religion, born into to it. Even the apostles of Christ while on earth that did not mean they had not received God's Spirit or were not in Christ, nor declared righteous, by the life of Christ removing God's judgment of their flesh. They as well suffered in both life and death.

Respectfully, I think you should re-read your own comments. The truth is very will established in Christ. That happen at Christ resurrection Christ became the one and only temple of God created incorruptible. Christ finished, completed all that for us. We have an unshakable kingdom, not corrupted by any human sin or thought that kingdom we have received by faith.

We are sacrifice, living sacrifice in Christ for setting the creation free. The process of the sacrifice was given us freely, not with later string attached to it. This is why Christ is not ashamed of his body members on earth his brothers, they are living sacrifice for God's glory from their anointing, they don't belong too themselves any longer they are dead in a coffin to their own life pictured in their flesh.

From there forward the sacrifice are a gifts to mankind from God's love. That process has been described above in my last post and often on this board. He is allowing the persecution and evil done to Christ brothers not because of evil disobedience but because of his own love to save the world. Each one could have been take at
their anointing, simply because love does not owe a single thing but love. Their calling is not made by going beyond God's love.

God's allows his name to be trampled upon by the enemy, which mean his anointed on earth, and because we love God and belong to him, we share in that trampling and persecution for the love of Christ. When we impute wickedness to God's anointed we are imputing wickedness to Christ and his sacrifice still being tested because of the Devils evil not God's. This is the judgment that will come upon the world for declaring what God has made righteous by the unrighteous judgments of the flesh against his temple.

Daniel