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Judged, But Not Judged?

1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God. If it begins first with us, what will happen to those who don't obey the Good News of God?

There are many levels of judgment for us human in this life, we have judgments for age groups, religious people, high ranking people, professional people, the poor, the rich, and so on . . .

And of of course we have the crazy harsh demands of social media judgments, the texting judgments where people flip completely out thinking someone meant something, that is, by their imputing their own emotions into a word and violently lashing out like a mad person. One must wonder what unleashes such vile hatred over a word?

Proverbs 30:32 "If you have done foolishly in lifting up yourself, or if you have thought evil, put your hand over your mouth.

Matthew 12:34 You offspring of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

So we can say people are in one form or another under judgment of each other from birth to death. But what of God's judgments upon mankind, are we under God's judgments right now? Before we answer that question let us uses an analogy because we all judge so much that we often don't even understand what judgment is according to God's word the bible?

Ecclesiastes 5:2 Don't be rash with your mouth, and don't let your heart be hasty to utter anything before God; for God is in heaven, and you on earth. Therefore let your words be few.

The analogy goes like this: a person is convicted of a crime, that is, “judged”, but of course it does not end there just with the courts, the courts judgment says: “you have been found guilty of crime, and here is the penalty for your judgment of guilt”.

The penalty is so many years in prison, there a person loses friends, family almost always, they loose all rights as a citizen, most never restored too them.

Next they suffer in deprivation in a very hostel environment, they are to worked with no pay, they are to be confined to a small cell, and eat whatever food the prison gives them to eat, and if released they will continual to suffer from their judgment. The will suffer in not finding employment, lost of family, and friends and ultimately they must find a new life for themselves.

They must have a mind set that they will suffer the rest of their life and not flatter themselves with an unreality world their judgment is real a never ending judgment until they die!

Now the word judgment take on real meaning does it not? It is more than just shouting out violent words at person, and/or lashing out in social media, or texting. It's more then trying to prove one is righteous by bible verses, is it not?

Ecclesiastes 10:13 The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness; and the end of his talk is mischievous madness. 2. Matthew 15:8 'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Matthew 15:11 That which enters into the mouth doesn't defile the man; but that which proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man."

What Christian's Often Miss?

What Christian's so often miss is the truth about judgment has real and long lasting consequence when it comes from God's judgment of us and the human race.

For example we ask the question are we under God's judgment today? Yes, for one, the judgment that God pronounced upon sin in the Garden of Eden.

That death would come from sin, and all the consequence that would attach to sin like disease, pain, sorrow, fear, enslavement to governments, religions, commerce and a host of other problems which are impossible to say in such a short space.

But lets put it this way, the weeds of sin engulf the whole earth in darkness and all that comes from corruption has been evil and bad for the human race without doubt!

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

When we throw around judgments at each other daily it becomes a meaningless word, but when we attach God's word to our judgments we should have the good common sense to understand that we are going to be held accountable for every word we utter before the Lord Jesus Christ at the final and everlasting consequences coming from God judgment upon all of us, that is, you and me!
Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 3. Matt.7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Matthew 12:36 I tell you that every idle word that men speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.

The point of this article is to help us understand judgment in God's word that it has literal and long lasting effects upon humans just as the judgment sin upon Adam and Eve did. God will not feel regret, he will not change his judgment just as he hasn't change the judgment of sin, since sin entered into our world.

Number.23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, Neither the son of man, that he should repent: Hath he said, and will he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and will he not make it good?

That in and of itself should tells us our emotions from strong feelings do not have the power of God's judgments or will our emotion ever be God's judgments, nor can our strong love, or dislikes change God's judgment once it is upon us.

Thus, many claim now days to be God's children, that is, God's anointed, they have accounted themselves as God's children by what they've read, and equally by what they've felt, and that is find, but what they may not of understood? Is God's anointing, and what it bring with it, the judgment of God, and in God's judgment it is completed without feeling or doubt.

God's program was planned for his anointed children before the founding of this world it is designed by a pattern. In other words, it is a set pattern once in effect it will not change until God finishes it. It has nothing to do with our feelings at all, it has nothing to do with: “I feel I am anointed” so I can bend every scriptures and story of the bible to myself to defend that I am anointed.

All of God’s Judgments are set for a periods of time did you know that?

Genesis 7:12 And rain came down on the earth for forty days and forty nights. Exodus 16:35 And the children of Israel had manna for their food for forty years, till they came to a land with people in it, till they came to the edge of the land of Canaan.

Deuteronomy 8:2 And keep in mind the way by which the Lord your God has taken you through the waste land these forty years, so that he might make low your pride and put you to the test, to see what was in your heart and if you would keep his orders or not.

But do these same anointed ones know that they are under God's judgment if they are one of God’s childrene?

Its not a play game for attention! Do we think its a matter of luck that one day we are doing good and the next not so good so we just add a little spiritual food from our bibles and the judgment ends for us because we are now trying harder?

You see that may be true of those in the flesh, who think they are God's anointed, but the judgment of God's children does not change by anything they can do good or bad, or say.

In other words, how does one do good so they don't die from the wages of sin?

Romans 6:23 For the reward of sin is death; but what God freely gives is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord.
How much do we love truth? A little bit until it hurts our ears? God's children are under judgment and God has not been shy in telling us that we are being judged.

Moreover, because they are under God’s judgment their lives, their family, home, and every thing that was normal for those of the world would be ruined for them. The judgment of God household is not a one time happy story book ending, but a continual judgment until the judgment is over at God’s time table.

Heb.10:30 For we know him who said, "Vengeance belongs to me," says the Lord, "I will repay."{Deuteronomy 32:35} Again, "The Lord will judge his people."{Deuteronomy 32:36; Psalm 135:14}

1Cor. 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ. 10:5 However with most of them, God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

When is God's judgment over, do you know answer to that question?

It is true, God's anointed days on earth are found in humiliation, it is a time of evil put upon them from every which way, from false brothers and sisters to their work, to their business, in every endeavor of their hands, but “how long Oh Lord, how long O Lord?”

Is it until I perfected my imperfect flesh, is it until I can do everything perfect in speech, walk, actions, reading the bible completely, understanding all knowledge, removing mountain's by my faith, “how long Oh Lord, how long?”

1 Peter 1:7 that the proof of your faith, which is more precious than gold that perishes even though it is tested by fire, may be found to result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ--
1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, don't be astonished at the fiery trial which has come upon you, to test you, as though a strange thing happened to you. 6.

Revelation 2:2 "I know your works, and your toil and perseverance, and that you can't tolerate evil men, and have tested those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and found them false.

Revelation 2:10 Don't be afraid of the things which you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested; and you will have oppression for ten days. Be faithful to death, and I will give you the crown of life. 1

Corinthians 3:13 each man's work will be revealed. For the Day will declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself will test what sort of work each man's work is. Now the excitement of the glory being anointed has faded into the reality of a harsh hated life “until when Oh Lord?” Until we die, until the Lord calls us home.

Acts 8:33 In his humiliation, his judgment was taken away. Who will declare His generation? For his life is taken from the earth."{Isaiah 53:7,8}

Mark 10:24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus answered again, "Children, how hard is it for those who trust in riches to enter into the Kingdom of God!

2 Corinthians 1:9 Yes, we ourselves have had the sentence of death within ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead.

1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we have set our trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.

You see the judgment does not end, so why are so many false anointed teaching it does that they have control over their judgment by their worldly success?

Why is there so many promenading greatness as one of God’s anointed when the truth is when Christ was on earth it was time of evil humiliation, and Christ clearly stated it would be the same for all his brothers?

2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

2 Peter 2:10 but chiefly those who walk after the flesh in the lust of defilement, and despise authority. Daring, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries;

2 Peter 2:12 But these, as unreasoning creatures, born natural animals to be taken and destroyed, speaking evil in matters about which they are ignorant, will in their destroying surely be destroyed,.

Revelation 12:10 I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now is come the salvation, the power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ; for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them before our God day and night.

Those having the Spirit of God, his children. have the same mental attitude Christ did; are they running to do business in a city boasting they are going to make lots of money. How can they do that under God's judgment of his own household? How does that work, if its they time of humiliation? Why would an anointed children of God think its a time of great success on earth when it wasn't for Christ?

Philippians 3:21 who will change the body of our humiliation to be conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working by which he is able even to subject all things to himself.

No it wasn’t a time for great success for Christ or any of his followers!

it would be like being under the conviction of the State for a crime in prison and boasting of building a business it can't be done legally, or will the State allow for it.

The judgment is a time of humiliation just as it was for Christ when Satan offered him all the kingdoms of the world.

Moreover, it was the same for the apostles, once the judgment of God came upon the household of God after they received the Holy Spirit, tribulation and trouble were found for the rest of their lives in the flesh on earth!

That age old judgment on God's anointed hasn't stopped, no more so than the one for sin that cause all of us to pay its wages.

Isa. 53:3 He was despised, and rejected by men; a man of suffering, and acquainted with disease. He was despised as one from whom men hide their face; and we didn't respect him. 53:4 Surely he has borne our sickness, and carried our suffering; yet we considered him plagued, struck by God, and afflicted.

One cannot be bought, purchased for God's purposes to conduct and run their own life in any form, not unless the person is of the flesh posing as one of God's children? It does not exist in our bibles, once the Holy Spirit was poured out.

Acts 20:28 Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the assembly of the Lord and{TR, NU omit "the Lord and"} God which he purchased with his own blood.

1 Corinthians 6:20 for you were bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Corinthians 7:23 You were bought with a price. Don't become bondservants of men.

2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, as false teachers will also be among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.

Revelation 5:9 They sang a new song, saying, "You are worthy to take the book, and to open its seals: for you were killed, and bought us for God with your blood, out of every tribe, language, people, and nation.

One would have to go to false religion to get permission from those in the ruling class deceiving themselves that they are above the judgments of God, and are allowed to use laws of the flesh that are dead in Christ, if indeed they belong to Christ?

Romans 1:6 among whom you are also called to belong to Jesus Christ; 1 Thessalonians 5:5 You are all children of light, and children of the day. We don't belong to the night, nor to darkness.

Revelation 19:1 After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, "Hallelujah! Salvation, power, and glory belong to our God: We cannot mock God even if the message is harsh, and its judgment, man's righteousness does not stand with God, and neither will he feel regret that he allowed his own son Christ Jesus to under go the same judgment he has placed upon his body.
Isa. 53:8 He was taken away by oppression and judgment; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living and stricken for the disobedience of my people? 10. 53:9 They made his grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in his death; although he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 53:10 Yet it pleased Yahweh to bruise him. He has caused him to suffer. When you make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed. He shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of Yahweh shall prosper in his hand. 53:11 After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light{So read the Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint. Masoretic Text omits "the light".} and be satisfied. My righteous servant will justify many by the knowledge of himself; and he will bear their iniquities.

Yes, the judgment will end, and it will be known its full and everlasting good that will be revealed in the son's of God, but it will not change in scope or in magnitude, until it is finished at God's sealing of his children.

Heb. 12:3 For consider him who has endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, that you don't grow weary, fainting in your souls. 12:4 You have not yet resisted to blood, striving against sin; 12:5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with children, "My son, don't take lightly the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him; 12:6 For whom the Lord loves, he chastens, and scourges every son whom he receives."{Proverbs 3:11-12}

Nothing will stand in the flesh before Christ Judgment seat, just as nothing in our flesh is found in Christ while we are upon this earth.

The flesh can't win, it can't change the judgment of God upon his spiritual household of God. Let us remember that flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of God, nor can corruption the flesh is corrupting and dying.

God calls the things of our flesh corruption and the things it creates. Note please there is no flesh in Christ, so we ourselves are deceived by our fleshly mind if we think the judgment upon God's children stop because we have a project in our flesh we want more than God’s kingdom.

It is God discipline of the flesh that separate the truth from the lie in all of God's children.

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace; Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God. What God is forming is not by human hands, it is by His Spirit those that are falsely seeking glory in the flesh, are not Christ, they are not under judgment of Christ headship or they would not be in a time of glory on earth but humiliation just as Christ and his apostles suffered at being hated by the world of their time.

Revelation 3:10 Because you kept my command to endure, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, which is to come on the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

1 John 4:17 In this love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

Let us know it is those in this judgment that endure to the end in faith that will be saved!

12. 1 John 4:9 By this God's love was revealed in us, that God has sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.

1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: your faith.

James. 4:13 Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow let's go into this city, and spend a year there, trade, and make a profit." 4:14 Whereas you don't know what your life will be like tomorrow. For what is your life? For you are a vapor, that appears for a little time, and then vanishes away. 4:15 For you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we will both live, and do this or that." 4:16 But now you glory in your boasting. All such boasting is evil. 4:17 To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is sin.

The mixing of all these false ideas found in religion will be dissolved in the judgment of God's household when it is finishes, how will those living the lie stand?

Completed: September 08, 2018 by: Daniel a Slave of Christ Jesus

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