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No Law Against Love

Gal.5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,{or, faithfulness}
5:23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

As Christian's we have all read the thought that there is no law against the fruit of God's Holy Spirit. That thought is profound in and of itself, but like all thoughts found in our bibles it has been misapplied, twisted into all manner of ideas, incorporated into dogma, doctrine, rules, laws, and commandments since penned almost two thousand's years ago.

Are There Laws Against Love?

It hard for us to believe eventhough the Holy Spirit directed the apostle Paul to write the above statements? When we find ourselves living under laws, thousand's upon thousand's of them from birth to death when nothing in our world does have law against it. However, let us start from the beginning; do we know when law became the part and partial of all human life on earth?

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Romans 2:14 (for when Gentiles who don't have the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law to themselves.

It was when sin entered into our world through the first man, that is, Adam that is when laws came into existence. Once under sin there needed to be law against sin, which sin is evil to prevent hurting others. That lead civilization to eventually have almost every human action, and emotion, checked by some form of written laws or verbal laws. These less and minor laws are written in our own conscience of what is right and wrong conduct in society that we live in.

Romans 2:15 in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience testifying with them, and their thoughts among themselves accusing or else excusing them.

However, at one time on earth, but for a short moment, no laws against God's love were found in Adam and Eve sinless state which existed in God's love, (Love) the divine law. Now that one moment in time should change every thinking Christian's heart and mind in ask where is God now leading us? In doing so the entire dynamics of the thought of no law against love becomes a daily reality we should strive for under laws created for sin that enslaves the human race into being alienated from God driven out of his present, out of he Garden of Eden.

Here is a proverb which proverbs means a deep saying that take real spiritual discernment to unravel:

“Trying to apply a rule, a commandment, a law to love produces an obligation, an obligation is no longer love, but a work of law!”

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In other words, when we love some one and they ask us to do something for them is it a law, a rule, a commandment, or is it love? Moreover, Do we need to even think about obeying if it is love? Do we need to think in terms of right or wrong? Sadly, being imperfect with sin we do think about in evil and good, but can that be said about God's love?

Gen.3:4 The serpent said to the woman, "You won't surely die,
3:5 for God knows that in the day you eat it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Now we have compound this thought into real depth of Spirit truth and thinking. On the other hand, what if we love the person, not if they love us? Well, we don't think of good and evil we most often we are full of joy and love to help them we don't think about obeying them, because at that moment there is no law against love there is love and joy ( fruit of God's Spirit) we find in pleasing them.

However, if we don't love a person we immediately start judging how much love, kindness, and faithfulness we can show them without our getting hurt or taken advantage of. Our mind are flood with thought we must judge through so we won't later regret them. Subsequently, our love does not over looks the flaws that start poping out everywhere we were once able to overlook in our love for them. So we love them less, we start loving them by obligation that is by conditions, if they do certain thing wittingly or unwittingly for us or against us, which are laws against the freedom of love, these condition become work of law against freely giving them love without fear.
Judgment

We must as Christian's understand that prior to Christ none of God's faithful people knew God as love!

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They instead knew him as law, as obligations placed upon them by the law given through Moses, that is, they learned God by laws of against the sins of God's love. The old testament is replete with the God of judgments through is law. However, we also find in the new testament “after the Holy Spirit was poured out” the God of love being revealed and promoted what it takes know the truth of God and is Son Christ Jesus, and not judgment, judgment was no longer the focus of God's children, it was dramatically changed as darkness into light, into love, and without love we could not know God. Christian's taught and believed the Jewish faith those not believing were left in darkness while they had received the light!

James 2:12 So speak, and so do, as men who are to be judged by a law of freedom.

James 4:11 Don't speak against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge.

The defining mark for all true Christian's is love then and now, not judgment after Christ life was given too us by Holy Spirit. God's people moved away from talking about the wrath of God under the law into a new freedom from judgment (from God's wrath) under the law, into God's love without the law of Moses that Christ own love fulfilled for his Father YHWH

Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

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John 3:34 For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for God gives the Spirit without measure.

1 John 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son as the atoning sacrifice{"atoning sacrifice" is from the Greek "hilasmos," an appeasing, propitiating, or the means of appeasement or propitiation--the sacrifice that turns away God's wrath because of our sin.} for our sins.

Fear and Anger

When someone is judging us what does it produce? Is it love, and/or fear and anger? Well, the God of love says it produces fear and anger, fear and anger no matter what good light we put it into and we tout it as legally good as God's love, this is, God's judgment equal's to God's love We will find God does not lie and he says, found in our bibles it is God's wrath, and in his wrath we are found to be liars if we believe judgment as God's love. Let us remember there is no wrath in Christ for those loving God.

Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}
8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

1 John 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son as the atoning sacrifice{"atoning sacrifice" is from the Greek "hilasmos," an appeasing, propitiating, or the means of appeasement or propitiation--the sacrifice that turns away God's wrath because of our sin.} for our sins.

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1 Thessalonians 1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead--Jesus, who delivers us from the wrath to come.

There is no love found in fear and judgments. Now lets not read right over those words, and/or read them backwards as so many do, but lets read them just as the truth of God's word tells us, love does not have fear and judgment in it because love does not experience God's wrath, why, because there is no law against love!

1 Peter 4:8 And above all things be earnest in your love among yourselves, for love covers a multitude of sins.

In other words, there is no law of judgment in God's love (the law removed by Christ love for his Father YHWH). However, once we are in a law, that is against God's love it produces punishment for our sins as creating God's wrath, we are in, or under judgment, we are not in God's love, without judgment.

Sin is a condition that is in us, not in God, sin has laws because we think and do evil. It is the condition of sin that is against love, for God is love. The condition of sin is laws of judgment of good and evil, the sinful Adam could no longer just love God because of his own sin that imputed motives, that is, sin to God, who can't sin or lie.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.
The Fleshes Judgment is it Love?

Once sin was in humans it produce judgment, the flesh cannot be freed of judgment in any manner once its birthed into sin.

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No lies of false religion are righteous enough to make the law God's love. No amount of fancy that sins laws are going to free a person from sin's judgment not even by commandments, by rule, or law; our sinful flesh is not in freedom it is in enslavement under judgment which is under the wrath of God as evil. That is why the bible tells us nothing good dwells in our flesh, or that the flesh can't please God, or be in subjection to God's laws, it can't be, or it would mean that many would be without sin like Adam was, before sinning found on earth by the applications of law, rules, commandments and so on, but there isn't just as Solomon stated all things under man's creation is vanity.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just like I have loved you; that you also love one another.

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Thus, we cannot know God in our flesh, the flesh is under judgment of God's wrath {law} (alienated like Adam was when removed from the Garden of Eden by his sin). The flesh cannot be made to know God's love by judgment of our flesh. God's love has no judgment for those freed of their sinful flesh, that is, flesh is not born new, it is instead the spirit that is born new into God's love, which means into God love also found in his Spirit! That is the flesh is dead (sin), it no longer existing to God, thus, if it does not exist there is no judgment. Then there is no law, i.e, no judgment of God against it! Where there is no law there is no judgment! That is why love covers a multitude of sins.

The constant judgment of religious teachings, governments, businesses, schools, college, and everything else under the Sun created by humans under sin is a state of wrath that bring with it punishment and resentment. Thus, nothing in those rules, laws, and commandments will created a new creation that knows God's love, nothing by there appication will make a person a non-sinner, placing them into God's love. The only thing under the Sun is our accepting the removal of sinful flesh by God placing us into Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

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Rules punishing the sinful flesh simply aren't God's love, nor do they make us free from judgment and fear created by those laws, rules, and commandments, which judges us as rightfully as sinner, as good and/or evil. The flesh cannot know God's love, it is impossible because God said it is impossible! In other words, Adam could not change back into a non-sinner once he sinned, he could not work his way back into being a non-sinner through his obedience to commandments, law, rules, or any other education under the Sun, and neither can we!

A minute of love felt in our flesh is not the love of God, because within a second its starts thinking of good and evil (from our fallen flesh in darkness), that is, when, where, who we can love, and how much we can love them? That is not at all God's love, God is perfect in light, in love that never changes.

We all think in our sinful flesh, which means our love its shown or given by rules, laws, commandments to keep us from sinning against God's love, or protecting us someone else damage. We are getting something back from others by our merited love given them by obligation found by our rules, laws which is not God's love that has not law against it.

James.1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures. 1:19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger;

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In other words, there is no love in judgment, and conversely there is no judgment in love.

God's Love

God's love has no fear in it, it has no wrath in it, it has no evil in it, because it does not have any sin in it found in our flesh. If we are in God's love we are free of our flesh, which means the judgment of our sinful flesh, because in Christ the law is completed, by his own love for the Father. It is that love that is in the Son, and the Son love in the Father we are birth into, not our own!

Romans 7:13 Did then that which is good become death to me? May it never be! But sin, that it might be shown to be sin, by working death to me through that which is good; that through the commandment sin might become exceeding sinful.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

1 John 3:6 Whoever remains in him doesn't sin. Whoever sins hasn't seen him, neither knows him.

1 John 3:9 Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God.

John.17:21 that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that you sent me.

John.17:23 I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me.

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God has set our sins aside cast our sins into the depth of the sea to be remembered no more, but why? Because there can be no laws for sin, by commandments, by rules, against love or its not love. God is love, and the fruit coming from God has no laws against them (fruit of Holy Spirit). God revealed his love through Jesus Christ by removing our judgment of sin. (Removing his righteous law by his love found in Jesus Christ)

That does not mean its an orgy of lust of the flesh; love need not be told what to do good or evil! Love does only good and right. It not a mater of right and wrong because love cannot sin, or think in evil in sin, and/or do sin. That is in us, we confuse with God's love.

Those that are of the flesh see all humans as evil who want to get away with sins. That is a fact of living in the flesh which is a divine truth, a truth of our nature of sin in us we must come to the light to see. We cannot deny the plummet of allowing sin into more and more corruption without laws. But let us remember the water in outhouse is unclean, if we apply rules and laws to it not to get it on our hands or let it run into our neighbor's yard does not make it God's standard of cleanest, the pure water so God's love now does it?

There is nothing wrong in judging the flesh as evil, because that is a truth of breaking a law. But we must confess the same is in all of us that it is a constant state of uncleanness that cause all of us to imputing evil to others, and not God's love. We do so wittingly and unwittingly because we are under the law of the flesh in our flesh, but not those put to death in flesh and made alive in the Spirit having the indwelling of Christ in them that has no condemnation or flesh.
But are those in the Spirit without law?

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Judgment of sin in us is wrath, wrath is evil, not the love of God, wrath does not first impute good. So unwittingly by our nature we return evil for evil, and not love which has been given us by God's own love freely, God's love does not impute evil. When read not to return evil for evil what is the bibles context of returning evil for evil?

We are to return the law of love, not of judgment of the flesh removed in Christ for us by his love! In other words, we have been over came by the sins of the flesh, and not the Spirit that free us from sin and has no judgment causing wrath. That is the releasing all Christ must experience to move beyond the primary doctrines of Christ.

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are without excuse, O man, whoever you are who judge. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

Romans 14:22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who doesn't judge himself in that which he approves.

1 Corinthians 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self.

Luke 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted,{NU omits "to heal the brokenhearted"} to proclaim release to the captives, recovering of sight to the blind, to deliver those who are crushed.

Mark 11:25 Whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone; so that your Father, who is in heaven, may also forgive you your transgressions.
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Love is the air of God, a rarified air on heavenly mount Zion, and air so pure that it cause us to beat all war implements into the peace of God that excel all thought of harm of others. And that is the air we all must breathe in Christ, judgment is the law of evil, it is the air we breathe as humans under sin, it is the judgment that will bring this world system of things to end by evil judgments of each other.

John 3:36 One who believes in the Son has eternal life, but one who disobeys{The same word can be translated "disobeys" or "disbelieves" in this context.} the Son won't see life, but the wrath of God remains on him."

James 1:20 for the anger of man doesn't produce the righteousness of God.

Once evil enter into love it become wrath and judgment not God's love that frees us from his judgment. (that is why the flesh must die, or we cannot know God's love)

Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the children of disobedience;

When we judge we get back what? Love or wrath from those we judge? So if one thinks for one moment judging it going to do anything but alienate others from us then we are living a lie. Truth cannot be changed because God's truth is from love. We cannot change God's love and think we can make judgments into something good that changes hearts into loving God. A good tree cannot produce evil fruit, and a corrupt tree cannot produce good fruit. God used his wrath for thousand's years upon mankind in Israel but it did not turn them to love. God love was not the wrath of the law, but the love of God found in His Son Christ Jesus.

We've had thousand's of years of yeast false religion using the wrath of God to make its follower love God, what has it fruit proven to be? The same as Israel of old under the law, none have came up to the peace of God on earth, none has produced a man or woman that has proven to be in God's Garden Paradise. All of fallen short of God's glory. What is God's glory most Christian's have no idea? God is love, God's glory is his love. All those in sin fall short of God's glory, you be the judge of the fruit on a good tree and a corrupt tree.

1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God loved us in this way, we also ought to love one another.

1 John 4:19 We love Him, because he first loved us.

Matt.7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. 7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

To change a heart into the love of God, it takes the very workings of God in Christ Jesus to complete something we human are incapable of doing, by any judgment or religious teachings.

Philippians 3:10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death;

Colossians 1:11 strengthened with all power, according to the might of his glory, for all endurance and perseverance with joy;

Colossians 1:13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love;

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That is why Christ stated that a corrupt tree cannot produce God's love (love the fruit of God that all other gifts of the Spirit come from.), it takes a good tree, Christ Jesus, to be in us to produce the love of God, and transfer us into his kingdom of his love. (Christ is called our mediator.) The love Christ had for his Father that completed all sins of the flesh, i.e, the Laws for sin.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Hebrews 8:6 But now he has obtained a more excellent ministry, by so much as he is also the mediator of a better covenant, which on better promises has been given as law.

Mark 10:38 But Jesus said to them, "You don't know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?"

Luke 3:16 John answered them all, "I indeed baptize you with water, but he comes who is mightier than I, the latchet of whose sandals I am not worthy to loosen. He will baptize you in the Holy Spirit and fire.

1 Peter 1:7 that the proof of your faith, which is more precious than gold that perishes even though it is tested by fire, may be found to result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ--

That process is a fiery work of Holy Spirit from the temple of the living God in Christ Jesus that refines us by fire. It is an eternal everlasting work done by the love of God that we in our flesh cannot know or come close to understanding even with words from our bibles.

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1 Corinthians 2:4 My speech and my preaching were not in persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power.

1 Corinthians 2:5 that your faith wouldn't stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

1 Corinthians 4:20 For the Kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

It is, on the other hand, a work being done in us by the eternal life of Christ Jesus. This nonsense of making ones tow the line by commandments, threats, hell fire, disfellowshiping will accomplish nothing more than planting more of the same fleshly yeast found in all institution of mankind created by the wrath and judgment of our own flesh in fear and hates we live in, that is, we are living in judgment, and not God's love as a Christian's.

It is the strange work of God in his children that sanctifies them makes them without spot from the world not the works of flesh in judging flesh which is man's works that is dead to God, because those in Christ have no law against them they are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit.

God's work in us will not stop, and God will uses such evil hate found in us to remove what we cannot remove from ourselves to bring those he loves into hidden place of his love by the power of incorruptible life of Christ Jesus.

Isa.28:21 For Yahweh will rise up as on Mount Perazim. He will be angry as in the valley of Gibeon; that he may do his work, his unusual work, and bring to pass his act, his extraordinary act.

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When we find that the same words of judgment of the flesh in death are being leveled against us, in painful fearful terms, the very words we have used against someone else; let us know that is God's strange work being done among us that fulfills the law that says we get back what ever we judge, and God's angles will see to it. That is the fire that removes the dross from the new covenant of God's love that is found in Christ Jesus.

Isa. 28:17 I will make justice the measuring line, and righteousness the plumb line. The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters will overflow the hiding place.

One vessel will be harden made fit for God's destruction while the other will be created into new vessel made fit for God's love used by him as a vessel of compassion setting the creation free from vanity and pried which is futility.

The question is do we believe by faith the law of love is more powerful than the laws punishing the flesh? Do we believe in God's love that it cannot fail?

Romans 9:21 Or hasn't the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel for honor, and another for dishonor?

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Completed: November 24, 2018

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