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THE REPLY TO DEFENDER

Lets speak truth, for we are told without question to speak truth each one with his neighbor. 1.) the person writing this article calling themselves “defense of Jehovah’s Witnesses” must first speak truth with himself to be “in the truth”

Ephesians 4:25 Therefore, putting away falsehood, speak truth each one with his neighbor. For we are members of one another.

2 Corinthians 4:2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by the manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

No Jehovah's Witness in good standing is allowed by Watchtower Bible Tract Society to write artificial accept their writing committee approved by Jehovah’s Witnesses Governor Body (GB) let alone publish them on world wide internet.

2.) Secondly, if found out by Jws he would be disfellowshipped for posting an article on what they have label an apostate website. Having said that hypocrisy is when you watch rules being used against people they call brothers and sister removing them from their organization, and exclude yourself while stating our leaders on earth the GB speak for Christ who is the truth.

Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they didn't walk uprightly according to the truth of the Good News, I said to Peter before them all, "If you, being a Jew, live as the Gentiles do, and not as the Jews do, why do you compel the Gentiles to live as the Jews do?

3.) Moreover, what the “defender” leaves out of his statements is the fact that his leaders GB who say they speak for Christ, from their conception of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society have claimed many dates for the end of the world, and generations, the list is endless, all those prophecy have failed to date. To make matter even more evil Jehovah’s Witnesses have disfellowshipped thousands for not going along with their failed end times dates, never once apologizing and/or reinstating those they who have had their lives ruined over for standing up for the truth and not going along with Watchtower false prophecy which YHWH Himself commanded them to stand up against in the very bibles they all read as Jws!

Deuteronomy 13:3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams: for Yahweh your God proves you, to know whether you love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Deuteronomy 13:5 That prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he has spoken rebellion against Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to draw you aside out of the way which Yahweh your God commanded you to walk in. So you shall put away the evil from the midst of you.

4.) And lastly, this same group Jws has openly and boldly condemned every other religious group on earth as apostate, evil, from the devil, false prophets. for their failed end time prophecies.

Matt. 7:1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.
7:2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Subsequently, “Defender of Jehovah's” Witnesses is not here for truth, if he were here for truth he could not stay in any group who openly lives a lie in the name of truth, he would separated himself from it as God YHWH command us to do so!

2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore, "'Come out from among them, and be separate,' says the Lord. 'Touch no unclean thing. I will receive you.{Isaiah 52:11; Ezekiel 20:34,41}

Jehovah’s Witnesses, and before they named themselves Jws has used the scripture regarding peace and security thousands of time to mark off the end of this world. From before Russel, the League of Nations to the United Nations.

So we can say factually based on their Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own recorded history all their prophecy to date have failed.

As they say if you through enough dung against the wall over and over again some will stick.

Ezekiel 22:28 Her prophets have daubed for them with whitewash, seeing false visions, and divining lies to them, saying, Thus says the Lord Yahweh, when Yahweh has not spoken.

Moreover, the false prophet of Jehovah’s Witnesses shows they haven’t been embarrassed or learned a thing i.e., repented from their evil ways which has destroyed millions of peoples faith over the years. Instead they now boldly try to convince you and me that one of the GB members has new light on the subject of peace and security prophecy and because of that new light its shows they’ve had the truth all long while living a lie!

Ezekiel 13:10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there is no peace; and when one builds up a wall, behold, they daub it with whitewash:

Ezekiel 13:11 tell those who daub it with whitewash, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and you, great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall tear it.

Ezekiel 13:14 So will I break down the wall that you have daubed with whitewash, and bring it down to the ground, so that its foundation shall be uncovered; and it shall fall, and you shall be consumed in its midst: and you shall know that I am Yahweh.

In other words, they have an agenda like politics has an agenda, in this case it is their organization Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, if you need to lie, cover up, officiate, campaign, inflate numbers, destroy your own history, what ever dirty deed it take to make our side look like its win then that’s what we will do.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden, that will not be revealed; nor anything secret, that will not be known and come to light.

Luke 11:35 Therefore see whether the light that is in you isn't darkness.

Luke 12:3 Therefore whatever you have said in the darkness will be heard in the light. What you have spoken in the ear in the inner chambers will be proclaimed on the housetops.

John 3:20 For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn't come to the light, lest his works would be exposed.

John 3:21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God."

First, lets speak the real truth, there is only one membership to get into God’s kingdom, and that is the door to the Kingdom Christ Jesus there is no other way into the kingdom and any earthly group that says it is the door is a liar and thief.

John 10:1 "Most certainly, I tell you, one who doesn't enter by the door into the sheep fold, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

John 10:2 But one who enters in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

John 10:7 Jesus therefore said to them again, "Most certainly, I tell you, I am the sheep's door.

Certainly Jehovah’s Witnesses have destroy, plunder, blunder many peoples faith in the name of calling themselves a faithful slave of God. They have proved to be just like a beast of government, not the lamb of God who’s yoke is kindly and light to be under where refreshment for your eternal soul is treated like a treasure in heaven.

Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart; and you will find rest for your souls.

Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."

They arrogantly named themselves a faithful slave to Christ Jesus, but Christians only have one leader, Jesus Christ who refused to be called faithful slave on earth he unlike the GB of Jws waited until his Father Jehovah God declared him to be faith upon his resurrection into heaven.

Heb.1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds.
1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
1:4 having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have.
1:5 For to which of the angels did he say at any time, "You are my Son. Today have I become your father?"{Psalm 2:7} and again, "I will be to him a Father, and he will be to me a Son?"{2 Samuel 7:14; 1 Chronicles 17:13}
1:6 Again, when he brings in the firstborn into the world he says, "Let all the angels of God worship him."

Matthew 19:16 Behold, one came to him and said, "Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"

Matthew 19:17 He said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."

New International Version
Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.

New Living Translation
And don’t let anyone call you ‘Teacher,’ for you have only one teacher, the Messiah.

English Standard Version
Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.

Berean Study Bible
Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Christ.

Berean Literal Bible
Neither be called instructors; since One is your instructor, the Christ.

King James Bible
Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

New King James Version
And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ.

New American Standard Bible
And do not be called leaders; for only One is your Leader, that is, Christ.

NASB 1995
“Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.

The bible tells us there is only one known faithful slave God has revealed, Jesus Christ, there is only one temple Jesus Christ and all those who are in Christ, that is, in his body as members are the temple designating them as part of the faithful slave.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?

1 Corinthians 3:17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for God's temple is holy, which you are.

1 Corinthians 6:19 Or don't you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have from God? You are not your own,

1 Corinthians 10:17 Because there is one loaf of bread, we, who are many, are one body; for we all partake of the one loaf of bread.

1 Corinthians 12:13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all given to drink into one Spirit.

They have received a Kingdom by God’s undeserved kindness, because they are in Christ Jesus who is God’s Kingdom that cannot be shaken by human events on earth.

Heb.12:27 This phrase, "Yet once more," signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that have been made, that those things which are not shaken may remain.
12:28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can't be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe, 12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.{Deuteronomy 4:24}

They are not waiting for salvation, something Jehovah’s Witnesses do not understand, or do they teach it. Why because they are under works of law thinking their salvation comes from obeying prophecy, and the rules of their earth governmental/religion they claim two membership two loyalities thinking that it is righteous and accepted by God.

Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. You aren't able to serve God and mammon{"Mammon" refers to riches or a false god of wealth.}."

Rom.1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
1:19 because that which is known of God is revealed in them, for God revealed it to them.
1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse.

Rom.
7:1 Or don't you know, brothers{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} (for I speak to men who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man for as long as he lives?
7:2 For the woman that has a husband is bound by law to the husband while he lives, but if the husband dies, she is discharged from the law of the husband.
7:3 So then if, while the husband lives, she is joined to another man, she would be called an adulteress. But if the husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she is joined to another man.
7:4 Therefore, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you would be joined to another, to him who was raised from t

So why did God send his Son Christ Jesus to earth? Was it to save God’s people by prophecy? No! God’s message is clear from Christ miraculous birth forward to save his people from what? Their sins.

Matthew 1:21 She shall bring forth a son. You shall call his name Jesus, for it is he who shall save his people from their sins."

What happens when God saves a person from their sins? Well, according to God you have eternal life. Those early Christian’s in Christ were given eternal life of Christ that would now be in them. They did not have a separate righteousness they had the righteousness of Christ living in them.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

John 3:36 One who believes in the Son has eternal life, but one who disobeys{The same word can be translated "disobeys" or "disbelieves" in this context.} the Son won't see life, but the wrath of God remains on him."

John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about me.

John 6:47 Most certainly, I tell you, he who believes in me has eternal life.

They had the Spirit of God that had made them a new creation in Christ, their head was the teacher not some earthly government with the label religion upon it. Each one was taught by God through his son Christ Jesus headship not another headship of earthly religious government.

Jeremiah 31:34 and they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know Yahweh; for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says Yahweh: for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin will I remember no more.

1 John 2:20 You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.{Or, "know what is true." Or, "know all things."}

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don't need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.

They didn’t live for some date by a false headship they were to stay in Christ, and not to go looking for some other body dead in it sins for a message about the end of the world.

Matthew 24:11 Many false prophets will arise, and will lead many astray.

Matthew 24:24 For there will arise false christs, and false prophets, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.

1Thess. 5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need that anything be written to you.
5:2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night.
5:3 For when they are saying, "Peace and safety," then sudden destruction will come on them, like birth pains on a pregnant woman; and they will in no way escape.
5:4 But you, brothers, aren't in darkness, that the day should overtake you like a thief.
5:5 You are all children of light, and children of the day. We don't belong to the night, nor to darkness,
5:6 so then let's not sleep, as the rest do, but let's watch and be sober.

Their world in the flesh had ended in the old man it was killed put to death in the flesh and made alive in Spirit with Christ Jesus. What must they do? They had eternal life indwelling them in Christ they had the teacher the Holy Spirit they needed nothing because in Christ are all things for his body just like our body has all things dwelling in it for life. In Christ they had all things for eternal life in it for Christ body members just as the blood flows to all members of our own body.

They were to endure in faith until the end of their world, by death or the end of the physical world as Christ comes to destroy it, just as their own flesh was put to death so they could become a part of Christ body and temple so the end of this world will be.

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

1Cor.3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone thinks that he is wise among you in this world, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.
3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He has taken the wise in their craftiness."{Job 5:13}
3:20 And again, "The Lord knows the reasoning of the wise, that it is worthless."{Psalm 94:11}
3:21 Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours,
3:22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come. All are yours,
3:23 and you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.

False prophets, false messiahs all hold one thing in common none of them are in Christ, subsequently, they all look to prophecy for salvation, a salvation that all who in Christ already have, which the Holy Spirit bears witness to in all the Children of God.

Those associated with Jehovah’s Witnesses have but one love and that is prophecy without prophecy they have no faith, they have nothing else to live for, not an exaggeration. From the birth of Watchtower Society its entire foundation was built on a very shaky kingdom sand for its members which sandy soil foundation has always been prophecy. Not the foundation of Christ the Rock.

Matt.7:24 "Everyone therefore who hears these words of mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man, who built his house on a rock.
7:25 The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it didn't fall, for it was founded on the rock.
7:26 Everyone who hears these words of mine, and doesn't do them will be like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand.
7:27 The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it fell--and great was its fall."
7:28 It happened, when Jesus had finished saying these things, that the multitudes were astonished at his teaching,
7:29 for he taught them with authority, and not like the scribes.

Their earthly government/religion has a constant loss of members, their child leaving as on prophecy after another has fail leaving members disillusion, bitter and anger, or complacent. While at the same time living in an environment of politicking over personalities in each congregation about their leader elders and their GB.

1Cor. 3:1 Brothers, I couldn't speak to you as to spiritual, but as to fleshly, as to babies in Christ.
3:2 I fed you with milk, not with meat; for you weren't yet ready. Indeed, not even now are you ready,
3:3 for you are still fleshly. For insofar as there is jealousy, strife, and factions among you, aren't you fleshly, and don't you walk in the ways of men?
3:4 For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," aren't you fleshly?
3:5 Who then is Apollos, and who is Paul, but servants through whom you believed; and each as the Lord gave to him?

James 4 4:1 Where do wars and fightings among you come from? Don't they come from your pleasures that war in your members?
4:2 You lust, and don't have. You kill, covet, and can't obtain. You fight and make war. You don't have, because you don't ask.
4:3 You ask, and don't receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it for your pleasures.
4:4 You adulterers and adulteresses, don't you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

The fruit does not fail far from the tree; naming corrupted fruit good does not make it good, and naming good fruit evil does not make it evil. Christ Jesus is the good fruit tree with no failed prophecy, no evil fruit his Kingdom is incorruptible while Jehovah’s Witnesses are full of corruption just like the world’s government are.

Matt. 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.
7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.
7:19 Every tree that doesn't grow good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire.
7:20 Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.
7:21 Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
7:22 Many will tell me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?'
7:23 Then I will tell them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.'

Clearly Christ is now revealing the truth as the light to this world he is exposing all falsehoods and lies just like the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society has been exposed just like all religion not of Christ will experience the same. No new variation of prophecy will change what we are living through right now earth wide.

The good things of God will come out of all nations without a label on them of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Let us seek God while he may yet be found, seek peace in the loving comfort of God’s Son Christ Jesus and you will be saved.

Matthew 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened for you.

Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter in by the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter in, and will not be able.

Acts 17:27 that they should seek the Lord, if perhaps they might reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.

Completed: February 23, 2022

by Daniel a Slave in Christ Jesus

Jws defender: Sites like these have honest hearted ones searching for truth, and you have "fence dwellers " who need to make a decision before the outbreak of the Great Tribulation which was the purpose of this post,not meant for an ex-witness but for those spirituality sick but not to the point of apostasy.

Jwsstraighttalk reply: There is no other website like this one you are lumping them all together which is not supersizing at all, which proves your not here for any other reason but your agenda idol of Jehovah’s Witnesses WT.

So are you speaking for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witness or not? It either yes or no there nothing in between that is where the demons dwell. Please make your statement publicly I still have many friends that are Jws some of then having contact with GB if need be I will post their policy for members baptized into the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

So you assume your not a fence dwellers according to who’s judgment?

John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one.

1Cor.4:1 So let a man think of us as Christ's servants, and stewards of God's mysteries. 4:2 Here, moreover, it is required of stewards, that they be found faithful. 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment. Yes, I don't judge my own self. 4:4 For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord.
4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each man will get his praise from God.

Romans 14:3 Don't let him who eats despise him who doesn't eat. Don't let him who doesn't eat judge him who eats, for God has accepted him.

Romans 14:4 Who are you who judge another's servant? To his own lord he stands or falls. Yes, he will be made to stand, for God has power to make him stand.

Romans 14:10 But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Labeling everyone an apostate when you have no clue of what an apostate is being trained to repeat words of a worldly religious-governmental organization with the fruits of good and evil on it own tree is exactly what false prophets practice and Christ Jesus warned his true follower to watch out for.

Matt.7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.
7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?

Matt. 7:17 Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

John 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me.

John 15:5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Truth does not come from weeds, or groups full of yeast, it comes down from above as Christ Jesus told us by Holy Spirit, it does not push people of the fence if that is where their search for so called truth has led them it does not take them off the wide road if they have a love of the world. Moreover, it has nothing to do with our flesh that is corrupted by sin.

1 John 5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.

James. 3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God. 3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?

James. 3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic.
3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.
3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

James.1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old yeast, neither with the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Galatians 5:9 A little yeast grows through the whole lump.

2 Timothy 2:19 However God's firm foundation stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are his,"{Numbers 16:5} and, "Let every one who names the name of the Lord{TR reads "Christ" instead of "the Lord"} depart from unrighteousness."

Jws-defender: For one reason or another a brother can get side tracked and quit going to meetings of JWs and fall into gross sin,fornication adultery or even committed a murder and just gave up the hope he once had of the new world.

Can such a brother be saved?
King David was responsible for the death of 70,000 men,committed adultery,and yet Jehovah forgave him WHY? you answer that.

While Jesus was having dinner at Levi’s house, many tax collectors and sinners were eating with him and his disciples, for there were many who followed him. 16 When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?” On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.

First of all no person on this earth has been saved by Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. There is only one way to be saved the God’s word does not hid that truth from any honest heart person. There is one, door, one savior, mo one gets saved by knowledge they factually get saved by the blood of Christ Jesus which is why those saved are called Christian’s.

Next quoting a statement does not mean it practices, it make the poster of it feel good but what are the fruit of Jehovah’s witnesses with the million that walked out the back door is their recorded good at bring the back in or is it just talk like their phony door to door preaching that everyone ends up at a donut shop and call on people that they no might listen, but living these lies and telling the public the opposite that think glorifies the God of truth.

If David was alive today and his actions killed hundreds of thousand I promise you before Christ Jesus he would never be allowed back into Jws. Not even a Jws that murdered so again reality is not what been spoken here it is an agenda that Jws-defender is promoting over the real truth that Jehovah’s Witnesses live lies like all false religion they cover up the sexual perversion against children just like the fruit from all governments and religions.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

2 Timothy 1:9 who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before times eternal,

Romans 10:9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 5:10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we will be saved by his life.

Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."

Acts 4:12 There is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved!"

John 3:17 For God didn't send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him.

"No Jehovah's Witness in good standing is allowed by Watchtower Bible Tract Society to write articals accept their writing committee approved by Jehovah’s Witnesses Governor Body (GB) let alone publish them on world wide internet"

JWs state:

"It is dangerous for us to argue with any opposers, to read their books or blogs, to go to their websites, or to watch their videos".

Yes its dangerous if I was curious as to the teachings posted,

"It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners".

) "Secondly, if found out by Jws he would be disfellowshipped for posting an article on what they have label an apostate website. Having said that hypocrisy is when you watch rules being used against people they call brothers and sister removing them from their organization, and exclude yourself while stating our leaders on earth the GB speak for Christ who is the truth"

Provide the proof of your statement.

Toby Dillon
,Lifelong follower of Christ
Updated 2 years ago ·Author has 22.4K answers and 11.4M answer views
“Apostate” is a word that means “a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle.” (Google)
When a person leaves a church, that’s apostasy. It’s the word that means “left the church.”
Nearly every church uses the term. Like “heretic,” it has a negative connotation only in context with whatever church or doctrine has been abandoned.
Words mean things. If you don’t know what the word means, look it up in a dictionary. No further justification is needed.
Edit: Some people have likened being called apostate to the practice of shunning. I’m not addressing the second element, as I’m not a Witness and have no specific knowledge of the practice. Others have decided that my comment section is a good place for their anti-JW comments and that really violates the spirit of Quora, so I’m turning off comments.

Disfellowshipping is the most severe form of discipline administered. Before taking this step, the judicial committee must determine that the individual has committed a "serious sin" and that there is no evidence of true repentance.[85]To judge that repentance is genuine, members of the judicial committee ask questions and review the actions of the accused member.[86] Baptized members who spread teachings contrary to the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses can be disfellowshipped for apostasy,[87][88][89] and a 1981 letter to overseers—reproduced in a book by former Governing Body member Raymond Franz—directed that a member who "persists in believing other doctrine", even without promoting such beliefs, may also be subject to disfellowshipping.[90] Once the decision to disfellowship has been made, a person has seven days to appeal, after which, if the person has not appealed, the disfellowshipping will be announced to the congregation; disfellowshipping does not take effect until the announcement is made to the congregation.[91] After a person is disfellowshipped, the person is shunned by all baptized members.[92] Exceptions include cases where a member is forced to have commercial dealings with a member who is disfellowshipped, or if the disfellowshipped member is living with family members who are baptized. In these cases, the Witness is not permitted to speak about religious matters, except in the case of parents conducting a Bible study with a disfellowshipped minor.[93] The extent to which disfellowshipped or disassociated relatives living in the same household are included in family life is left to the discretion of the family.[94] Family members living outside the home who are disfellowshipped have minimal contact.[9

An estimated 70,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses are disfellowshipped every year — roughly 1% of the church’s total population, according to data published by the Watchtower. Their names are published at local Kingdom Halls. Of those, two-thirds never return.

jwsstraighttalk; So lets be clear here. If you associate with a person disfellowshipped and have been warned can the elders disfellowship you for bad association?

Continually posting on a web-site that openly teaches against many of the doctrines of Jehovah’s Witnesses would the elders approve it or tell you not to? Furthermore, how many times would they warn you before they disfellowship you for rebelling against the elder that are representatives of the Watchtower Society.

Very seldom three times all this can be double check on the web, watch Youtube tons of information about disobeying the rules of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Stating again another unreality; to cover up the truth, there are many post online with teenagers and others have been disfellowshipped for petty little things not because of thing they stole but lying to the elders, or not taking their counsel

Moreover, writing articials outside the one channel Jws allows for is forbidden, they used to ask long time members to contribute and at one time they ask some of the anointed to contribute but that practice no longer exist.

If you are being honest a lover of truth its clear they don’t let anyone who is an active member of Jehovah’s witnesses do and that is basic teaching 101, those in good standing do not write their own Watchtowers, or books, or post on site like this one. Faithful in least is faithful in much, unfaithful in least unfaithful in much!

Once again stating this for the readers, the point is as anyone loving truth can see that defender of Jws has an agenda, he not defending Christ but he is defending his own Christ on earth Jehovah’s Witnesses gives no proof from the bible scriptures while make false accusation when Jwsstraighttalk post scriptures to defend the truth.

He make accusation to defend his own fears of untruth’s in his organization teaching that are controlled with an iron fist. What he does not know there are many ex-witnesses and those in good standing that we have contact with. Most live in fear of getting caught associating with jwsstraighttalk, not for its content of always using the scriptures but because of the religious zealot in Jehovah’s Witnesses.

"the “defender” leaves out of his statements is the fact that his leaders GB who say they speak for Christ, and have stated so from their conception of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society those prophets speaking for Christ have claimed many dates for the end of the world, and generations, the list is endless, all those prophecy have failed to date."

Correction,speculation[ which is what my post on 1 Thess] is not prophecy ,thats the lie perpetrated
by the Devil,

The Zions Watchtower from the very beginning after leaving the thick dense darkness of the false Churches understood the gifts of the spirit ended thousands of years ago including miracles or prophecy of new revelations. :

We have not the gift of prophecy.” (January 1883, page 425)

Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible.” (December 15, 1896, page 306)

The Watchtower has also said that the fact that some have Jehovah’s spirit “does not mean those now serving as Jehovah’s witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes.” (May 15, 1947, page 157)

So to post our dates are prophecy is a lie,you cant utter prophecy if not inspired by G-d.

Many ones know this of us but they mislead ones on sites that because we claim to speak for G-d and modern day prophets then everything printed must be prophecy .

Speculation of dates is not prophecy,but some who read these lies become perpetrators of lies against us.

Jwsstraighttalk: So defender where in your bible did Jesus Christ or his Father YHWH say to his people lets get together and speculate about prophecy that what real Christian’s do SPECULATE.

Now mind our readers that the Governing Body speak for Christ and have openly stated that for years. They boast in being the faithful and discreet slave that Christ said would be in charge and truth would come through that body.

Defender you are openly lying now, I will warn you public not to speak against the truth, my Christ rebuke you!

As of July 15, 2013, this is considered to be “old light” by the Governing Body. Rather than viewing the entire group of 144,000 as the “faithful slave,” it is now the Governing Body alone who are the “faithful slave.”
“Who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave? In keeping with Jesus’ pattern of feeding many through the hands of a few, that slave is made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence,” (Watchtower, July 15, 2013 p. 22)
This “small group” is the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. This group demands absolute unquestionable obedience from all Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide. Therefore, to question them is to question God.
How does the Governing Body come to the conclusion that they alone are the “faithful slave” of Matthew 24:45?

Copy and paste into browers window WatchTower calling itself the faithful slave since 1881
https://avoidjw.org/en/news/revisions-faithful-discreet-slave/

2 Timothy 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside to fables.

2 Timothy 3:7 always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2 Timothy 2:18 men who have erred concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past, and overthrowing the faith of some.

1 Timothy 2:7 to which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth in Christ, not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.

Ephesians 5:9 for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth,

There a very good article on jwsstraighttalk about speculation and who really uses it? Type it into the search bar and it will come up.

I will give you this at least you didn’t lie about the many failed prophecy that all Jehovah’s Witnesses believed they were from God through their leaders and millions of faith’s were destroyed, and God was made to look foolish by his speculating faithful slave.

Now you officiate by letting Jehovah’s Witnesses off the same hook they vehemently condemn other religions for world over as evil, wicked mislead, false prophets, while kissing their own lying mouth of the so called speculating faithful slave.

The same people that are God’s mouth piece and government on earth the mother of all Jehovah’s witness that is the ark of salvation for the whole world if they join the good old boys club of prophecy speculation anointed class leader without being disobedient to them

Proverbs. 6:16 There are six things which Yahweh hates; yes, seven which are an abomination to him:
6:17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood;
6:18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are swift in running to mischief,
6:19 a false witness who utters lies, and he who sows discord among brothers.

Reminding Our Readers Defender has one Objective defending not the truth of scriptures but his idol Jehovah’s Witnesses covering up their evil by blaming others for speaking truth about it!

As you wink at the millions of untold damage the WTS has done to the little ones among them as if its no more than wiping your mouth after lying for the ugly evil forgetting little ones righteous bloods cry's out against every false prophet including the Watch Tower.

Then you add insult to injury by quoting from old Watch Towers and WTS books that Jehovah’s Witnesses Government body had removed from they own organization because they teach false missing leading to new members.

Matthew 18:6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.

Luke 7:35 Wisdom is justified by all her children."

Matthew 18:6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.

Proverbs 20:23 Yahweh detests differing weights, and dishonest scales are not pleasing.

"Jehovah’s Witnesses, and before they named themselves Jws has used the scripture regarding peace and security thousands of time to mark off the end of this world. From before Russel, the League of Nations to the United Nations."

Its different now,we never closed our Kingdom halls worldwide before or ended door to door worldwide like now.

We now are under the radar from the United Nations who we say will start the great tribulation with the fulfillment of 1 Thess 5

We are by no coincidence heeding:

Isaiah 26:20
"Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. See, the LORD is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed upon her; she will conceal her slain no longer"

In essence with have been maneuvered into this position worldwide by Jehovah's visible organization which all other religions will be destroyed as they return to normal.

The fact that our doors to the kingdom halls and door to door has ended should give one last alert .

"The pandemic may leave a permanent mark on Jehovah’s Witnesses by ending door-to-door ministry, even after restrictions ease"

Robert Hendriks, National Spokesman for Jehovah’s Witnesses.

THE END OF THE WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC IS NIGH

Jwsstraighttalk replies: All false religion will go down at God’s time, none will be saved, and that includes Jehovah’s Witnesses. There is only one Kingdom universe wide that will not be shaken and that is Christ Kingdom that kingdom which Jehovah’s Witnesses fail to see, willfully blinded was received by God’s children two-thousand year ago when Christ conquered death and Hades was given incorruptible life to him by his Father Jehovah.

That relationship puts a person into Christ Jesus who God calls Christ Jesus the truth. Now a person is “in the truth” they are not in a religion. Truth is Christ Jesus whom teaches us as his our head with Spirit and Truth we no longer worship in some place on earth we worship at the temple of God, Christ Jesus.

Jehovah’s witnesses is a hodgepodges of many good and false teaching they have used the power of the worlds laws, courts, and legal leaders to create an image of all human governments where politicking is practice for protection and safety against other religions and their own member vising for recognition, glory of man and power.

They have also enter into competition with all other religions declaring themselves better, smarter, God chosen people, thinking that it gives them merit with God. Not realizing there is no competition in Christ and they don’t even know why there is not completion in Christ sadly.

Religion or humans get no credit from God by comparing their works against other works, God’s people do not measure themselves against anyone but Christ Jesus whom they know they need God’s undeserved kindness to even exist in Christ Jesus life.

I will state this to close this discussion. Defender of Jws is one of billions of people in government that promotes an agenda at the cost to his own soul. To defend what is corrupt because you live in fear of the truth of coming to the light of truth, first within ourselves, and than we can see the truth of scriptures if God permitted would rather delude himself into personal salvation rather than faith God is good and he does not lie ever. That no person that is his will be lost. God is not weak, he does not tells us any where the prophecy will save us. What he states over and over again is Christ blood, the price God put upon Christ blood save us, that is what gives us a clear conscience not trying to put away the filth of flesh by Watch Tower good works done in front of man for personal approval of their members and leaders.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more.

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we are not bold to number or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves. But they themselves, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves with themselves, are without understanding.

Galatians 1:10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? For if I were still pleasing men, I wouldn't be a servant of Christ.

John 5:41 I don't receive glory from men.

John 5:44 How can you believe, who receive glory from one another, and you don't seek the glory that comes from the only God?

John 7:18 He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory, but he who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

John 8:50 But I don't seek my own glory. There is one who seeks and judges.

John 8:54 Jesus answered, "If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is our God.

Speculation

Definitions of speculation on the Web: guess: a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence); "speculations about the outcome of the election"; "he dismissed it as mere conjecture"

Why talk about the subject of speculation among Christian's? Speculation is wide spread among Christians since Christ was upon earth, many have speculated time and again about Christ coming, only to have such speculation fail. There have been billions mislead by someone personal faulty speculation over bible verses. Nations have march off into war over the speculation of world leaders.

So speculation is a very serious subject for those seeking truth of God and his promises.

1 John 2:21 I have not written to you because you don't know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth.

Does God Speculate?

This is a simple question for any serious bible students, we needs to ask ourselves, does God speculate? No! God does not speculate, the idea of speculation is not of God, God is the truth, and he tells the truth he does not speculate with our eternal life, or ask us to put faith in some theory or idea we conjure up in our mind.

1 John 4:6 We are of God. He who knows God listens to us. He who is not of God doesn't listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause we also thank God without ceasing, that, when you received from us the word of the message of God, you accepted it not as the word of men, but, as it is in truth, the word of God, which also works in you who believe.

Speculation comes from human minds under sin, it is a practice of people corrupted in mind that want some excitement to explain something that hard to accept as a human.

2 Timothy 3:7 always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

For example, there is no evil with God there is only good from God, a simple truth. Speculation goes on and on over this very subject. Because human under sin cannot understand how God is good and no evil is with him?

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers. 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

In other words, speculation is often for Christian's a humanization of God into a man's thinking under sin, like us. Now that is offensive to some, but it is nonetheless true. Speculation about bible truth's is most often about making God more human so we imputed our personal feelings and thoughts into God. Human normally speculate over mysteries, and particularly over bible mystery, such as God is love. How do we explain something so great? We speculated about our own love, or some human that has shown us love, we than impute these thoughts and feeling into God. But none of us love like God's love, so our speculation when compared to truth comes up short!

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

Subsequently, for many have been sorely disappointed when prayers have not been answered, or other Christian's do not meet their idea of love or bible prophecy, and prediction. Hardly do these disappointed ones place the blame upon faulty speculation which was never found in their bibles in the first place instead blaming others and even God!

Romans 1:23 and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

1Cor. 13:4 Love is patient and is kind; love doesn't envy. Love doesn't brag, is not proud, 13:5 doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil;
13:6 doesn't rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 13:8 Love never fails.

1 John 4:16 We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.

Does Christ Speculate?

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me.

God does not speculate, but did Christ speculate to his disciples upon earth? Did he talk to them about things they could not verify? Did he teach them to speculate about the written word of God? Did he teaches them to speculate about prophets of old, what they might have said and been thinking not recorded in the written word of God? Did Christ build such speculation into the holy written word of God that we as Christian's are to test such speculation against?

John 16:13 However when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he hears, he will speak. He will declare to you things that are coming.

John 17:17 Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.{Psalm 119:142}

Certainly there could have been no better person to fill in the piece of Davids personality, or Adam, and Eve's real personality, but not one word from Christ about such personal matters, not one word of speculation about anyone in the bible during his life time on earth.

John 19:35 He who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, that you may believe.

But what he did say was: “It is written!” He did this to refute false teachings, or any speculation, what he did not say; "this is a good theory, lets speculated on it, humanizing the prophets of old". No! Christ did not speculate about any bible character. He told the truth about them, nor did he in the slightest instant command Christian's to speculate about things not written. Telling his disciples: “Lets get creative, make it happen with your gifted colorful imagination, stretch it, put yourself into the Garden of Eden where you can hear and see Adam getting mad at Eve for not giving him enough sex!”

Titus 1:14 not paying attention to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn away from the truth.

2 Peter 1:16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables, when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

No! Christ would not speak something that was not true, so he did not speculate being he is the Truth, nor commanded his disciples to speculated over things not written.

Luke 24:44 He said to them, "This is what I told you, while I was still with you, that all things which are written in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me must be fulfilled."

Luke 24:46 He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day,

Luke 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, "The voice of one crying in the wilderness, 'Make ready the way of the Lord. Make his paths straight.

Luke 4:4 Jesus answered him, saying, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.'"{Deuteronomy 8:3}

Luke 4:8 Jesus answered him, "Get behind me Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God, and you shall serve him only.'"{Deuteronomy 6:13}

Did the Angels Speculate?

Once again in the few instants angels talked to man they spoke only the truth God gave them to speak, not one theory, or personal speculation about future events, or personality of God's people in bible history to humanizes them and God. Not an unholy word came out of their mouth, but unfortunately, not so with human under sin, and corruption of the fleshly mind. They speak many words, steering up the pot of contention just to prove a point based upon some personal speculation.

James 3:3 Indeed, we put bits into the horses' mouths so that they may obey us, and we guide their whole body. 3:4 Behold, the ships also, though they are so big and are driven by fierce winds, are yet guided by a very small rudder, wherever the pilot desires. 3:5 So the tongue is also a little member, and boasts great things. See how a small fire can spread to a large forest! 3:6 And the tongue is a fire. The world of iniquity among our members is the tongue, which defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature, and is set on fire by Gehenna.{or, Hell}

Did The Apostles Speculate?

2 Corinthians 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

Actually before their anointing some did, but each and every time its was recorded those speculation were wrong. In fact, Christ corrected Peters faulty speculation that he would not have to suffer. Christ pointedly rebuked Peters corrupted mind by saying his thoughts were from Satan the Devil, and not of God!

Matthew 16:23 But he turned, and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, for you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of men."

The apostles all learned one thing, not to trust their sinful nature and its need for speculation. So no the apostles of Christ did not speculate thinking it might help others understand God's better than the written word under the power of Holy Spirit. Nor did they teach any of those listening to their teachings to practice speculation. In fact, they commanded against such unrighteousness thinking.

2 Corinthians 1:12 For our boasting is this: the testimony of our conscience, that in holiness and sincerity of God, not in fleshly wisdom but in the grace of God we behaved ourselves in the world, and more abundantly toward you.

Colossians 2:18 Let no one rob you of your prize by a voluntary humility and worshipping of the angels, dwelling in the things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.

Why Speculation is so Corrupting?

Exodus 13:7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten throughout the seven days; and no leavened bread shall be seen with you, neither shall there be yeast seen with you, in all your borders.

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old yeast, neither with the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Sin is corruption to God's righteousness, there is no middle ground, one cannot mix a little corruption into God's incorruptibility, and better understand God, or his word, it is impossible. God cannot reside with a lie, or darkness. Speculation is not based upon real evidence no matter how logical its sounds, it lacks the most important thing the witness of two or more, which verifies it as truth. Unrighteousness, is to talk about past events in the bible, speculating about them, making assumption. and teaching such speculation as truth on the same level as inspired scriptures which are vital to eternal life. Unrighteousness is that we were not personally there to witnesses actions for or against. Jehovah's God is a God of justice, he his our judge, and law giver, we should not make such unfounded accusation based upon speculation when we did not personally witness the actions of others at the time, thinking God will be pleased with such unfounded claims! God has recorded for us what he wants us to know about him and his people by His mouth that cannot lie!

Romans 2:19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide of the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.

1 Timothy 6:16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amen.

Corruption was a seed planted in the Garden of Eden by Eves failure to talk to her head. She rather listen to untruth of an evil mind of Satan wanting worship of God. She speculated that she could be a god and not die, she thought she needed no direction from Adam, or God. She was deceived by her own motives, she than ask Adam to go along with her sin. She had every bit of truth God was offering her in proper headship under Adams instruction directly from God, but it was not enough for her.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God.

This seed of corruption has grown into Satan system of things a system love by the world in unrighteousness. Anything from this world is not of God, nor is He pleased by it or tempt with a little leaven of sin for excitement through untruths as are humans under the power of sin in their flesh.

James 1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.

1 Corinthians 8:12 Thus, sinning against the brothers, and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; and so death passed to all men, because all sinned.

So when we plant a little corruption from speculation it grows much faster than truth, it spreads like weeds well fertilized and watered by a whole unrighteous world we live in. Although, we might get the praise of men, we still end up in death by its unrighteous fruitage produced by fleshly minded speculations.

1 Peter 2:2 as newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the Word, that you may grow thereby.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honorable, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue, and if there is any praise, think about these things.

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy. For I married you to one husband, that I might present you as a pure virgin to Christ.

What Eve thought was innocent has taken God thousands of painful years to undo at the cost of his people, and the blood of his son with tears. There is no such thing as an innocent lie, as Eve found out. There is no such things as a little leaven which does not matter when it is put into unleavened bread; don't be fooled it will corrupt the whole lump.

Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth, but such as is good for building up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Matthew 12:33 "Either make the tree good, and its fruit good, or make the tree corrupt, and its fruit corrupt; for the tree is known by its fruit.

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole lump?

Speaking Truth

Most people become highly offend when called a liar, some become violent even the most vile liar hates being called a liar. Such is Satan own personality when speculating that humans could be like God, and would not die, which was not based upon truth, and proven to be a lie! Moreover, when a liar is exposed by the truth the liar will at all cost destroy the messenger. Satan has with great wrath tried since Adam and Eve fall into sin to destroy anyone not agreeing with his lie. In Satan world it perfectly normal operating procedure to form theories, and speculate about all matters. What Satan hates is when someone exposes such conduct as unrighteousness, and not being of God, which lies will only lead into more lies, and greater darkness denying the truth of God.

2 Corinthians 2:11 that no advantage may be gained over us by Satan; for we are not ignorant of his schemes.

Luke 4:8 Jesus answered him, "Get behind me Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God, and you shall serve him only.'"{Deuteronomy 6:13}

2 Corinthians 4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

Subsequently, because all Christian's stand on the foundation of truth, that is, Christ Jesus who is the truth, and is our truth, we must not fall victim to speculation within God's written word. The two are diametrically opposed to each others, as light is to darkness. We have been elevated into the Christ whom is seated above where no lie exist, hence, than there is no need for us to speculate. Christian's have already arrived at truth, they have put on the Christ, the truth, and are filled with his life of truth. They are feed the truth, not speculation, they are not trying to make God more human, that is, like us so he can become more understanding of our unrighteousness in our feelings of hates, angers, sinful lust, and disappointments. A person praying to this type of god can only be praying to their own unrighteous heart or to the god of this system of things whom has spent thousands of years making the Almighty God YHWH into a idol of mankind creation and needs for ever unrighteous work of the flesh.

Isaiah 35:8 A highway will be there, a road, and it will be called The Holy Way. The unclean shall not pass over it, but it will be for those who walk in the Way. Wicked fools will not go there.

Isaiah 48:17 Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: I am Yahweh your God, who teaches you to profit, who leads you by the way that you should go.

Isaiah 58:13 If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on my holy day; and call the Sabbath a delight, [and] the holy of Yahweh honorable; and shall honor it, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking [your own] words:

Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says Yahweh.

God will not come down into sin, to please mankind. Men are not the center, God is the center, he is the King and we are blessed being his servants. This truth should be in each one of God's children, if we eclipse God for self-glory, that is, making a god of our feelings, we are a fool. Moreover, if we teach such human wisdom it is foolishness. Moreover, we become a tool to mislead others into nothing more than worldly self-center thinking, the same thinking Eve had in putting her own needs above everything God created for her out of love.

1 Timothy 6:4 he is conceited, knowing nothing, but obsessed with arguments, disputes, and word battles, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions.

The Bread of Life

Here is a hard facts that immature Christian's don't like hearing, the unleavened bread from above, that is, Christ Jesus is not tasty to the pallet. Without yeast most people would never each bread again. That is also true of the truth, it does not taste like happy food the world so loves. Most push it aside, off their plates because it does not excited the needs of our flesh. The world, and immature Christians look for fillers to make the unleavened bread of Christ more palatable, sweets, rich food, spices, and the such, but one cannot be feed by the Christ with such unrighteous fillers that are only a corruption to the truth.

Colossians 2:8 Be careful that you don't let anyone rob you through his philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the elements of the world, and not after Christ.

Galatians 6:14 But far be it from me to boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

1 John 2:15 Don't love the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the Father's love isn't in him.

The fleshly mind, which is a mind created by sin, puts yeast into the truth of Christ Jesus, to sustain a fleshly mind for life here on earth under the laws of sin, but its nothing more than corruption to the truth, and the life of Christ, which life comes from feeding on the bread of life without yeast or laws of sin.

Let us never be fooled, the war to put yeast into the truth is raging, there are appeals to every emotion one can have to eat junk food, people will kill a real Christian's to get their powerful drug of yeast, why yeast? Because when a fleshly mind eats truth it produce yeast teachings it must. Because the truth does not come from us, it comes from Christ, and his mind, we are feed on his righteous mind, and not our mind. The fleshly mind cannot understand truth it rejects it as a lie. But the fleshly mind is a deceived mind because when reading God's word the bible it thinks it has a right, because stealing this right as Eve did it deceives itself it has the truth by reading and studying the bible, but it does not have the Christ, the unleavened bread from above. It has a portion of truth written by the Word of God, Christ, but it does not have the truth, the life of Christ indwelling them, and feeding them unleavened bread, that is, the truth. Teh flesh mind sees no harm in adding yeast untruth to God's word, or mixing some truth with speculation because it thinks itself a god, having a right as god to changes God's written word.

2 John 1:9 Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ, doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the Father and the Son.

1 Peter 4:11 If anyone speaks, let it be as it were the very words of God. If anyone serves, let it be as of the strength which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

1 Peter 2:5 You also, as living stones, are built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Ephesians 2:20 being built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the chief cornerstone;

Hence, when this is point up the flesh becomes violent because you have attack its god, the god giving it life by yeast bread, it hates the truth because it does nothing for its god, it does not feed the fleshly mind, or satisfy the fleshly minds desire for excitement, and tasty yeast bread. Just as Satan and those working for him attack the Spirit lead children of God, because they have the light in them, which is not their own light, but Christ indwelling them, so goes the flesh as it lust against the Spirit of God.

Galatians 4:29 But as then, he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now.

Misleading of the Chosen Ones

Speculation is the fodder of the yeast mind, it is the food it feeds upon making all things man, humanizing God into a sinful man with desires like ours so one does not feel condemned, instead of making them come up to a very high mountain of God it stays with the faulty thinking of the worlds darkness. Speculation is the food of false gods, why? If everyone is a god (special/equal), than all have as much right to give the light of God too others from their own feelings and thoughts, hence, speculation gives a person information God has not authorized as special above others whom wait upon God's directions. So anyone discrediting this god will be killed some how, by slander, by a viscous verbal attacks, or physically killed, they will meet with a person who will take theor right to life, because they are a god. Entire nations have been destroyed by men making themselves into a god, that is, above others, as more enlighten, there is no descent against a god whom has made themselves into God or at least equal human must come under them as not equal in knowledge of needs. Those thinking they are especially chosen of God are the most vulnerable, and dangerous because they feel they have been chosen giving them the right to kill if necessary those not agreeing with their interpretation of God's words bible.

Here than is the truth for Christian's in Christ; we are warned that a war of lies would be let loose by Satan in the last days to mislead the nations and if possible God's chosen ones, if that were possible? This war of propaganda is not based upon truth, it based up people rights to say and teach what they want, because they account themselves worthy to do so. But the only true faithful and discreet Slave is Christ Jesus that taught only what His Father told him to teach. Without lies, or speculation. He did not water down his Father personality, but upheld it in truth so that all must learn to worship God, and not be equal too God, may we do the same.

Philip.2:3 doing nothing through rivalry or through conceit, but in humility, each counting others better than himself; 2:4 each of you not just looking to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 2:5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus, 2:6 who, existing in the form of God, didn't consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,
2:7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. 2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross. 2:9 Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name; 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, 2:11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 2:12 So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 2:13 For it is God who works in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure. 2:14 Do all things without murmurings and disputes, 2:15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you are seen as lights in the world, 2:16 holding up the word of life; that I may have something to boast in the day of Christ, that I didn't run in vain nor labor in vain.

Other significant dates the Watchtower no longer refer to are;

1799 A.D. - The beginning of the Last Days.
539 A.D. - Thought to be the start of Catholic Papal rule and the start point of many prophetic interpretations.
Of these above dates only 1914 is still considered significant, and even then, mostly for different reasons than originally prescribed. Though part of Watchtower lore for 60 years, most current Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware of their significance and that each one failed to eventuate as predicted.

Each time the Watchtower has predicted an occurrence, it has not eventuated as foretold, a 100% failure rate. Does this inspire confidence in Watchtower interpretation? Jehovah's Witnesses promoted these falsehoods in the past, and continue to zealously advocate current doctrine as unfailing truths.

It is claimed that Jesus found a cleansed Slave Class dispensing truthful food in 1919. However, Rutherford continued to promote Russell's interpretation of the dates for the 1700's, 1800's and 1914 until the 1930's. Many of the date prophecies were re-explained between 1930 and 1932; the remainder were adjusted in 1943. Rutherford even dismissed the majority of his own 1900's predictions.

Chapter 10 of Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom is devoted to the subject "Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth". This discusses that truth is progressive, yet makes little reference to the failed dates. Relegated to a footnote on page 133 is the statement that;

"A clearer understanding of Biblical chronology was published in 1943, in the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free" and it was then refined the following year in the book "The Kingdom Is at Hand," as well as in later publications.
Scant mention is made of the incredible list of dates that had been abandoned. Nor does it clarify that it was not until 1943 that the beginning of Christ's presence was specifically changed from the year 1874 to 1914. This change was in The Truth Shall Make You Free, released in the time of Knorr and the first book to be printed that did not list the author's name. This was after the death of Rutherford and well after 1919 when Jesus inspection supposedly found a spiritually cleansed Organization.

One can imagine that over time most of the current doctrine describing events of the 1900's will eventually be seen to be of little relevance and relegated to the forgotten annals of Watchtower history. It is yet to be seen what will become of 1914; being the most significant doctrine it will be the most difficult to eradicate without overwhelming consequences.

1780
May 19, 1780 was the date for the first sign of the last days, "The Dark Day." Certain Adventists still hold to this date. It was said by Ellen that "Since the time of Moses no period of darkness of equal density, extent, and duration, has ever been recorded." (Great Controversy, p. 308) This was touched on in Studies in the Scriptures - The Day Of Vengeance (1897) p.604;

"Reckoning a hundred years from 1780, the date of the first sign, the limit would reach to 1880; and, to our understanding, every item predicted had begun to be fulfilled at that date"
The time of darkness, the first sign of the end, was caused by fires in New England and was confined mostly to the North-Eastern part of the United States. Quite typically a new religion will think their country is predicted in prophecy. The Adventists, Mormons and Watchtower Society all began as US centric religions.

1798
"And, perhaps we can answer: the "time, times, and a-half," ended in 1798, at the taking away of the papal dominion, and is one of the great landmarks of prophecy." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.158
The 1260 days in Revelation 12:7 were said to extend from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. and marked by the end of Papal rule. In 1889, Russell changed the last days from 1798 to 1799, based on a new understanding that papal rule started in 539 A.D.

1799
Few Witnesses today are aware of the relevance of the year 1799, that this year is pivotal to the very existence of Jehovah's Witnesses. 1799 was the beginning of "the time of the end." This concept started the era of enlightenment and Adventist movement of the 1800's, resulting in Russell's end time belief system.

In no uncertain terms, Watchtower presented "proof" that 1799 was "definitely" the start of the time of the end.

"THE "Time of the End," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from A.D. 1799 to A.D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures. "The Day of His Preparation" is another name given to the same period." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.23
In 1796, George Bell postulated that the Pope was the Antichrist and would fall in 1797. The war that started shortly afterwards, along with Napoleon debasing the Pope, was seen as evidence of the fulfilment of this. So dramatic was the apparent fulfilment of this prophecy that it led to the start of the Adventist movement and belief that the last days started 1799. The reasoning was related to Daniel's prophecy of the King of the North and prophecies of the 1260 days in Daniel 7:25, Revelation 12:7 and 11:1-3.

Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is as Hand and Zion's Watch Tower 1889 discussed this as relating to the 1799 date.

Catholic Papal rule started in 539 A.D. and was said to have ended 1260 years later in 1799, thus starting the beginning of the time of the end. The prophecy of the 1355 days was similarly calculated to extend from 539 A.D. to 1874, another key date in Russell's understanding of the end times. Although Russell did not get involved in the Adventist movement until the 1870's, he accepted this date as truth and felt that God had chosen him as his mouthpiece to preach the urgency of the times.

Despite Russell's death, and the failure of his teaching that Jesus earthly rulership would commence 1914, Watchtower continued with this doctrine, and even well after Jesus apparent cleansing of Watchtower in 1919.

"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, ... and being completed in 1799, marks, according to the Prophet's own words, the beginning of the "time of the end". The Harp of God (1921) pp.228,229
"The time of the end" embraces a period from A.D. 1799, as above indicated, to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan's empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah." The Harp of God p.231
"Twelve-hundred sixty years from A.D. 539 brings us to 1799-another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.230
"How is the beginning of the “time of the end” definitely fixed at 1799 A. D.?" The Harp of God p.269
"This great increase in knowledge and the tremendous running to and fro of the people in various parts of the earth without question is a fulfilment of the prophecy testifying as to "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.234
It is amusing to see the lengthy list of inventions The Harp of God used as proof that the 1800's was the time of the end. The locomotive and "flying machine" (p.231) were considered fulfilment of the "day of God's preparation" spoken of in Nahum 2:1-6. Evidence the Lord's presence commenced 1874 included - adding machines, aeroplanes, aluminium, antiseptic surgery, artificial dyes, automatic couplers, automobiles, barbed wire, bicycles, carborundum, cash registers, celluloid, correspondence schools, cream separators, Darkest Africa, fireless cookers, shoe-sewing machines, the telegraph, the telephone, Panama Canal, Pasteurization, and vacuum cleaners (page 235).

This teaching continued throughout the nineteen twenties in other publications.

"The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." Watchtower 1922 Mar 1 p.73
"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, finished it, and then returned to France on October 1, 1799. The campaign is briefly, yet graphically described in the prophecy, verses 40-44; and its being completed in 1799 marks, according to the prophet's own words, the beginning of "the time of the end. Twelve hundred and sixty years from 539 A.D. brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end." This also shows that it is from the date 539 A.D. that the other prophetic days of Daniel must be counted." Creation (1927) 2,175,000 ed. p.293
"These physical facts cannot be disputed and are sufficient to convince any reasonable mind that we have been in "the time of the end" since 1799." The Harp of God p.234
Then as now, Watchtower resorted to insult, with Rutherford indicating above that a person is not of "reasonable mind" if they do not believe the time of the end started in 1799. Today, a Witness that does not believe 1914 was the start of the end is labelled as apostate or even the antichrist and disfellowshipped.

1829
1829 was the start of the Miller movement, as supposedly prophesied by the 1290 days of Daniel 12:11. This was 1290 years from the beginning of papal rule in 539 A.D, as explained in Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.84 and Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery pp.40, 60, 163.

"The Prophet Daniel's statement that "the wise shall understand" apparently refers to the end of the 1290 days mentioned in the same chapter. This period terminated in 1829. Shortly after 1829 the message of the nearness of the Second Advent of Christ began especially to be promulgated by William Miller. As a result of the exaltation of the Word of God, certain doctrines were brought forth in a very prominent way." Watchtower 1914 Nov 1 p.326
1840
Sounding of the Seventh Trumpet.

"The seventh trumpet sounds from Aug. 1840, until "the time of trouble," or day of wrath is ended. Hence, it doubtless ends with the times of the Gentiles, and this forty years of conquest; and therefore, sounds until A. D. 1914; at the end of which, Babylon the great, will have fallen, and the "dragon" be bound: that is, the nations will be subdued, and "the prince of this world cast out."" Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World (1877) p.27
1844
This was a key date for the Adventist movement. In the early 1800's John Aquila Brown taught that the Daniel chapter 8 prophecy of 2,300 days ended in 1844. Miller took up this theme and said that the end of the world would come in this year. When it did not Miller renounced his teaching but the Adventists stuck to it. They reinterpreted it to be the start of the time of the end and that the end would be 1874. This did not occur either.

In the 1870's Russell became interested in time prophecy. He followed Barbour's concept that the 1700 and 1800 dates put forward by the Adventists were correct; it was the understanding of what was going to happen that was wrong. Studies in the Scriptures Series 2 p.240 discusses Russell's understanding of 1844.

1846
The Sanctuary was cleansed in 1846, another understanding of the end of the 2,300 day prophecy. The cleansing was meant to be when G. Storrs abandoned false doctrines. Storrs was one of the preachers that Russell took his doctrines from. This is discussed in Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.108 and Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery p.163.

"The 2,300 days point to 1846 as the time when God's sanctuary would be cleansed of the defiling errors and principles of Papacy; and we have noted the cleansing there accomplished." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.306
1873
1873 was the year that Second Adventists and Russell thought the 6,000 years of creation had ended.

"We are already living in the seventh millennium - since October 1872" Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.363
"Here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of Adam to A.D. 1873 was six thousand years. And though the Bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of Christ's reign, the great Sabbath Day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without reasonable foundation. If, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of Christ's reign, we shall, by showing that it began in A.D. 1873, be proving that we are already in it." Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.39
"Looking back to 1871, we see that many of our company were what are known as Second Adventists, and the light they held briefly stated, was that there would be a second advent of Jesus-- that he would come to bless and immortalize the saints, to judge the world and to burn up the world and all the wicked. This, they claimed would occur in 1873, because the 6,000 years from the creation of Adam were complete then." Zion's Watch Tower 1881 Feb p.3
This began the reign of Christ and the period of darkness on the earth. The signs of the last days were apparently proven by the start of political systems such as Socialism, Communism and Nihilism. Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery The Watchtower did not change their workings on the 6,000 years until 1943, when they started to say that due to inaccuracies in the King James Bible they had wrongly stated 1873 and that the 6,000 years actually ended in 1975. (See Proclaimers footnote p.133)

1874
1874 was a key date for Russell. In many ways, 1874 was to Russell what 1914 is to Jehovah’'s Witnesses today. 1874 was the time of the second coming or second advent, the start of Jesus' invisible presence, the start of the harvest work and the beginning of the time for the generation that would see the end.

"The second advent of our Lord in the end or harvest of the Gospel age, occurring in the fall of 1874, proves to be at a point of time exactly parallel to the time of his first advent, in the end of the Jewish age. ... the Jubilee Cycles show October 1874 to be the date of our Lord s return. ... While the time-prophecies thus point to and harmonize with 1874 as the date of our Lord s second presence, assuring us of the fact with mathematical precision, we find ourselves overwhelmed with evidence of another character; for certain peculiar signs, foretold by the Lord and the apostles and prophets, which were to precede his coming, are now clearly recognised as actually fulfilled. ... The cleansing of the sanctuary was also accomplished as predicted, and at a time sufficiently in advance of 1874 to make ready "a people prepared for the Lord" a people in devout expectancy of his coming"" The Time of the Harvest (1911 ed.) pp.125,127,129
"... the beginning of the harvest period, in the fall of 1874." The Time of the Harvest (1911 ed.) p.234
"So short a time ago as 1870 we saw, in addition to the first principles of the Gospel, only the two bare facts - the Lord's second coming and the Restitution - and these but vaguely; for though we then saw restitution taught in Scripture, we were much in doubt as to its comprehensiveness, questioning often whether it would include all the billions of the dead whom the god of this world had in the present life blinded. And concerning the Lord's second coming, while we realized that he is no longer a man, but is now the new creature--the express image of the Father's person-- a quickening spirit, yet we failed somehow to make a proper application of this to his second coming, and unthinkingly and ignorantly, rather expected his coming to be as a glorified man, than as a spiritual being. It was not until about 1874 that these things became clearer, so that we realized that when Jesus should come, it would be as unobserved by human eyes as though an angel had come; and that it could be known only by some miracle, by some manifestation or demonstration....
Next our attention was drawn to the subject of the TIME of our Lord's coming. Before this we had strenuously ignored time, partly because of its being made so much of by "Second Adventists," and because of the frequent failures of their expectations. Moreover, the fact that they claimed the destruction of the world to be the impending event, and used the periods of time mentioned in Scripture to mark the time of that destruction, was another reason why we were disposed to ignore the subject of time. Their erroneous theory of the destruction of the world cast discredit on the time which they associated with it.
When, however, the manner of our Lord's coming was seen in the light of what he is--a spiritual, and no longer a human being--then we saw that our Father had provided TIME in the Bible, that thus we might know, or see with the eye of our understanding, what we could not see with our natural eyes-- viz., the Lord's presence. A careful study of times and seasons taught in Scripture convinced us that the Lord was due to be present in 1874, and other time teachings of the Word showed that in the spring of 1875 the restitution of all things was due to commence." Zion's Watch Tower 1883 Aug p.1
Initially, Russell felt that the battle of Armageddon started in 1874, based on his understanding that this was a social upheaval.

"The date of the close of that "battle" is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874." Zion's Watch Tower 1892 Jan 15 p.23
"... the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced." The Time is at Hand p.101
From 1904 onward, Watchtower articles show Russell changed the start of Armageddon to be 1914.

There was a great deal of Scriptural "proof" used to show Jesus' presence began in 1874, such as:

The end of the jubilee cycles (Zion's Watch Tower 1881 January).
It was the end of 6000 years after creation
Daniel's prophecy of the 1335 days. This was interpreted to mean 1335 years after papal rule had started in 539 AD. Historical years were changed and adjusted in order to fit the year to the prophecy.
Russell followed Barbour's idea that the Adventists were wrong to think the end of the world would be 1874 as this was just 30 years from 1844. As a generation is 70 years, the end of the world itself would not be until 1914. This fitted nicely with Barbour's understanding of the seven times.
It is interesting that prophecies vigorously used today to point to special events in the 1900's were used to point to completely different events in the 1800's. Even the methodology to work out these prophecies has changed. For instance, the 1335 days were said to represent years, now we are supposed to believe they represent lunar days; that is, about 1320 solar days! These prophecies are meant to strengthen faith in the Watchtower interpretation of the Bible, when they are obviously being used to fit any situation the Watchtower Society desires.

1874 was still being used well after 1914.

1922 watchtower regarding 1874 page 333
"Bible prophecy shows that the Lord was due to appear for the second time in the year 1874. Fulfilled prophecy shows beyond a doubt that he did appear in 1874. Fulfilled prophecy is otherwise designated the physical facts; and these facts are indisputable." Watchtower 1922 Nov 1 p.333
"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" Watchtower 1924 Jan 1 p.5)
"“The Scriptural proof is that the second presence of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1874 A.D.”" Prophecy 1929 1,589,000 ed. p.65
"“Applying the same rule then, of a day for a year, 1335 days after 539 A.D. brings us to 1874 A.D. at which time, according to Biblical chronology, the Lord's second presence was due.”" Creation 1927 2,175,000 ed. p.298
"“The Scriptural proof is that the period of his presence and the day of God's preparation is a period from 1874 A.D. forward. The second coming of the Lord, therefore, began in 1874; and that date and the years 1914 and 1918 are specially marked dates with reference to his coming. “Prophecy can not be understood until it has been fulfilled or is in the course of fulfillment. From 1874 to 1914 the prophecy concerning the Lord's coming was being fulfilled and could be understood, and was understood, by those who were faithful to the Lord and who were watching the development of events, but not by others."” Creation 1927 2,175,000 ed. p.289
The Harp of God contains many references to 1874 in both the 1921 and 1928 editions. The 1927 edition of Creation uses inventions from 1874 onwards as evidence of the Lord's presence since that date. These included:

"But mention is made of some of those things that have come to light since 1874, as a further evidence of the Lord's presence since that date, as follows: Adding machines, aeroplanes, aluminium, antiseptic surgery, artificial dyes, automatic couplers, automobiles, barbed wire, bicycles, carborundum, cash registers, celluloid, cream separators, disc plows, electric railways, electric welding, elevators, escalators, fireless cookers, gas engines, harvesting machines, illuminating gas, induction motors, linotypes, monotypes, motion pictures, pasteurization, radium, railway signals, Roentgen rays, skyscrapers, smokeless powder, submarines, subways, talking machines, telephones, television, typewriters, vacuum cleaners, wireless telegraphy and wireless telephony." Creation 1927 2,175,000 ed. p.297
1874 was not dropped as the start of the second coming until the 1930’s, when articles such as the following started to be released.

"The prophecy of the Bible, fully supported by the physical facts in fulfilment thereof, shows that the second coming of Christ dates from the fall of the year 1914." What is Truth? (1932) p.48
1874 was not removed entirely from Watchtower doctrine until 1943, when a change in how the 6000 years were calculated meant it could no longer be used as the end of the 6000 years. (see God's Kingdom on a Thousand Years Has Approached p.209)

The Society generally glosses over its history and wrong interpretations. However, some of the excuses it provides for these errors are quite shocking;

"“According to an inaccurate chronology that had been worked out from the King James Authorized Version Bible, Russell calculated Christ's "presence" had begun in the year 1874 C.E., unseen to human eyes and seen only by the eye of faith.”" Man's Salvation Out Of World Distress At Hand (1975) p.287
Is indicating that God allowed the Bible to come down to us incorrectly really the best way to exonerate Russell’'s wrong teachings? Doesn't this raise more problems than it answers?

1878
1878 was expected to fulfil many events, on the basis it was 3 ½ years after 1874, a period paralleling Jesus' 3 ½ year earthly ministry. 1878 was the year Jesus would take rulership in heaven, was the start of the heavenly resurrection, and expected to result in the rapture.

Jesus Heavenly Rulership
1878 was the year Jesus took rulership in heaven.

"... he would in reality assume the kingly office, power, etc., viz., in the spring of 1878, three and a half years after his second advent at the beginning of the harvest period, in the fall of 1874." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time of the Harvest (1911 ed.) p.234
"Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878... " Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand (1889) p.101
"... 1874 as the time of our Lord's second presence as Bridegroom and Reaper, and to April 1878 as the time when he began to exercise his office of King of kings and Lord of lords ..." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come (1911 ed.) p.150
"The spring of A.D. 1878 (three and a half years later) corresponds to the date at which our Lord assumed the office of King, rode on the ass, cleansed the temple of its money-changers, and wept over and gave up to desolation that nominal church or kingdom; and it marks the date when the nominal church systems were "spewed out" (Rev. 3:16), and from which time (A.D. 1878) they are not the mouth pieces of God, nor in any degree recognized by him." Studies In the Scriptures Series - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.235
"Based on the premise that events of the first century might find parallels in related events later, they also concluded that if Jesus' baptism and anointing in the autumn of 29 C.E. paralleled the beginning of an invisible presence in 1874, then his ride into Jerusalem as King in the spring of 33 C.E. would point to the spring of 1878 as the time when he would assume his power as heavenly King." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (1993) p.632
Jesus earthly rulership was expected to follow in 1914. In the 1920's, after 1914 had failed to deliver upon its expectations, Watchtower shifted the start of Jesus invisible heavenly rulership from 1878 to 1914.

Rapture or Heavenly Resurrection
Russell expected he and his followers would be raptured to heaven in 1878.

In January 1876, Charles Russell read a copy of Barbour's publication Herald of the Morning. This explained that Jesus had returned invisibly in 1874, and the Rapture would occur in 1878. As the kingdom had not come to earth in 1874 as predicted by Second Adventists, Barbour started to preach that Jesus arrived invisibly in 1874, (exactly the same justification used years later by Rutherford to explain why the kingdom did not manifest itself in 1914.) Russell was deeply influenced by Barbour and started to fund Barbour's publication, believing his resurrection to heaven would be only two years away.

"1878 ... They also thought they would be given their heavenly reward at that time." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p. 632
"Then Pastor Russell explains an erroneous view that had been held by all up to this point. Based on Paul's statement at 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52, it had been expected "that at some time the living saints would be suddenly and miraculously caught away bodily, thenceforth to be forever with the Lord." Believing this would take place in 1878, some were disappointed because nothing occurred that they could see. However, Pastor Russell was led to a reexamination of the scripture and realized that their "mistake lay in expecting to see all the living saints changed at once, and without dying - an erroneous view shared in by the whole nominal church, and one which we had not yet observed or discarded." Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose (1959) p.19
When questioned about this later, Russell played down such expectation.

"Expecting the Lord Jesus to come in 1878 to catch them up miraculously to be with him in heaven, some who had been Second Adventists (including Barbour) were disappointed when that miracle did not occur. Russell, though, "did not for a moment feel cast down," but "realized that what God had so plainly declared must some time have a fulfillment"; and he "wanted to have it just in God's time and way."
On one occasion while talking with Russell about the events of 1878, I told him that Pittsburgh papers had reported he was on the Sixth Street bridge dressed in a white robe on the night of the Memorial of Christ's death, expecting to be taken to heaven together with many others. I asked him, "Is that correct?"
Russell laughed heartily and said: "I was in bed that night between 10:30 and 11:00 P.M. However, some of the more radical ones might have been there, but I was not. Neither did I expect to be taken to heaven at that time, for I felt there was much work to be done preaching the Kingdom message to the peoples of the earth before the church would be taken away." FAITH ON THE MARCH pp.26-27
Today, Jehovah's Witnesses longingly look forward to their own reward, though now as being on earth. The idea their reward will be "soon" has been used as the carrot for over a century, dating to the very formation of the Watch Tower Society.

Shortly after this time, Russell split from Barbour and in 1879 started his own magazine, Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence. Whilst the rapture had not occurred, Russell retained 1878 as the date for the start of Jesus heavenly rulership.

Beginning of Heavenly Resurrection from the Grave
1878 was the start of the resurrection of the dead saints.

In 1906, Russell claimed that the "Lord has helped and guided" him to reveal the truth, explaining that whilst wrong about the living being taken to heaven in 1878, it was the date those already dead were taken to heaven. This was a handy interpretation, since it could not be proven false.

"We did not then see, as we now do,* that that date (1878) marked the time for the beginning of the establishment of the Kingdom of God, by the glorification of all who already slept in Christ, and that the "change" which Paul mentions (I Cor. 15:51) is to occur in the moment of dying, to all the class described, from that date onward through the harvest period, until all the living members ("the feet") of the body of Christ shall have been changed to glorious spirit beings. But when at that date nothing occurred which we could see, a re-examination of the matter showed me that our mistake lay in expecting to see all the living saints changed at once, and without dying--an erroneous view shared in by the whole nominal church, and one which we had not yet observed or discarded." Zion's Watch Tower 1906 Jul p.230
"Our Lord's resurrection occurred three and a half years after his advent as the Messiah, in A.D. 29; and the resurrection of his body, the Church, we have seen, was due in the year 1878, three and a half years after his second advent, in October 1874." Studies In the Scriptures Series - Thy Kingdom Come p.305
"In the year 1878, the dead in Christ were resurrected, as shown by number 8. It was time for them to be engaged in kingdom work. In that same year a call was issued for the saints on this side of the "veil" to come out of Babylon. The 1845 years of fleshly Israel's disfavor ended in 1878." Explanation of Chart Representing the Plan of the Ages
Despite the Lord's help, this interpretation too was wrong, as Watchtower now claims this event occurred in 1914.

End of Gospel Age, Favour to the Jews
1878 was to see the return of God's favour to the Jews. This was discussed in the 1877 book Three Worlds, co-authored by Barbour and Russell.

"The people called out of Babylon must refer to the Jews, we think, because they are to be gathered out of all nations, and restored to their own land ..." Three Worlds (1877) p.165
Russell continued to hold a zionist stance after his separation from Barbour. Jews were to came back into God's favour after the end of the gospel age with the rejection of Catholicism in 1878.

" ... the spring of 1878, the nominal gospel church was given up and their house left desolate.... But since the spring of 1878 we believe that the nominal church is cast off and now only the wheat - “the little flock” - is to be considered the church; and we believe this to be the date of the beginning of the fall of Babylon Church...."Zion's Watch Tower 1879 Oct reprints p.46
Rutherford also presented 1878 as part of God's plan for the Jews in his early writings, though strongly turned against them over time.

"In the summer of 1878, exactly on time and when we should look for God's favor to return to the Jew, we find there transpired a certain event of the greatest importance that had happened to Jewry in more than 1800 years. ... Accordingly from June 13 to July 13, 1878, the Berlin Congress was held. Beaaonsfield compelled Russia to greatly modify her treaty. Turkey was enfranchised and made independent, but upon condition that civil and religious rights be granted to the Jews. This had an important bearing on the history of the Jews." Millions Now Living will Never Die (1920) p.28
Brighter Light
Barbour used the concept of "new light" to explain the failure of the rapture to occur in 1878. This concept of new or brighter light was seized upon by Russell, and has been used by generations of Witnesses ever since as justification for failed doctrine.

"The spring of A.D. 1878 (three and a half years later) corresponds to the date at which our Lord assumed the office of King, rode on the ass, cleansed the temple of its money-changers, and wept over and gave up to desolation that nominal church or kingdom; and it marks the date when the nominal church systems were "spewed out" (Rev. 3:16), and from which time (A.D. 1878) they are not the mouth pieces of God, nor in any degree recognized by him. So it was in this harvest also up to A.D. 1878 the time prophecies and the fact of the Lord's presence, substantially as here presented, though less clearly, was our message. Since then the work has widened, and the view of other truths has become brighter and clearer; but the same fact and scriptures, teaching the same time and presence, stand unchallenged and incontrovertible." Studies In the Scriptures Series - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.235
1878 was considered "incontrovertible" for decades, with necessary changes in understanding repositioned under the guise of "brighter light." Eventually the "brighter light" faded and 1878 is now considered completely irrelevant.

1880
By 1880 all the signs of the end were said to have started, great earthquakes, war, pestilence, bad behaviour of people and so forth.

"A "generation" might be reckoned as equivalent to a century (practically the present limit) or one hundred and twenty years, Moses' lifetime and the Scripture limit. (Gen. 6:3.) Reckoning a hundred years from 1780, the date of the first sign, the limit would reach to 1880; and, to our understanding, every item predicted had begun to be fulfilled at that date;-the "harvest" or gathering time beginning October 1874; the organization of the Kingdom and the taking by our Lord of his great power as the King in April 1878, and the time of trouble or "day of wrath" which began October 1874, and will cease about 1915; and the sprouting of the fig tree." Studies in the Scriptures Series IV - The Day of Vengeance p.604
The exact opposite is now stated. You Can Live Forever In Paradise on Earth claims that the time before 1914 was a period of peace, and it was not until 1914 that all these signs of the last days started to be fulfilled.

"Yet what were prominent world leaders foretelling just before 1914? They were saying that conditions promising world peace were never more favourable. Yet the terrible troubles the Bible foretold began right on time, in 1914!" You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth p.5
This would seem to indicate that these signs can be comfortably fit to any generation.

1881
1881 became the next prophesied year that the sealing of the 144,000 was to be complete. This was to be at the end of 7 harvest years after the jubilee cycles had ended in 1874.

"the gathering of the bride into the place of safety, will occupy a parallel of seven years of time, ending in 1881" Zion's Watch Tower 1881 January p.1
"To our understanding the general call to this joint heirship with our Redeemer as members of the New Creation of God, ceased in 1881." Studies In the Scriptures Series VI - New Creation 1915 ed. p.95
"As in the type that date - three and a half years after the death of Christ - marked the end of all special favor to the Jew and the beginning of favor to the Gentiles, so we recognize A.D. 1881 as marking the close of the high calling, or invitation to the blessing peculiar to this age - to become joint-heirs with Christ and partakers of the divine nature." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.235
"The General Call To The High Calling Ceased-9 Even though the general call ceased in 1881, the door to the high calling remains open, as shown by number 9. However, it is only when one who is spirit begotten has to be replaced, (on account of being overcharged with the cares of this world, or sinful living, or loss of faith), that one, desirous of doing the Father's will, is invited to enter the narrow way as a replacement. The door to the high calling will remain open until the bride has made herself ready." Explanation of Chart Representing the Plan of the Ages
"It was also reasoned that the end of God's special favor to natural Israel down to 36 C.E. might point to 1881 as the time when the special opportunity to become part of spiritual Israel would close." Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.632
Once again it was believed that the remaining of the 144,000 would be taken by the rapture straight to heaven. In January 1881 the Watchtower stated that "the translation or change from the natural to the spiritual condition, [is] due this side or by the fall of our year 1881."

1906
Russell predicted a great war for 1906. As early as the Zion's Watch Tower 1892 January 15 Russell had stated;

"Then "Woe to the man or nation who starts the next war in Europe; for it will be a war of extermination." if not brought to an end by the establishment of god's Kingdom in the hands f his elect and then glorified Church, it would exterminate the race - Matt. 24:22."
The European War was said to be fulfilment of prophecy. When the Russo-Japanese war began in 1904, Russell suggested in Zion's Watch Tower 1904 March 1 that it would suck in all Europe fulfilling his prophecy for 1906.

1910
1910 was another date for the 'rapture', with the Bible Students expecting to be taken to heaven. Studies in the Scriptures Series 3 p.364 (versions printed before 1910) based this teaching on measurements from the Great Pyramid of Gizeh. It was also to Herald the time of Great trouble upon the Churches.

"It is but a few years before the full close of the time of trouble which ends the Gentile times; and when we remember the Lord's words-that the overcomers shall be accounted worthy to escape the severest of the trouble coming upon the world we may understand the reference to be to the anarchous trouble which will follow October, 1914; but a trouble chiefly upon the Church may be expected about 1910 A.D. The four years from 1910 to the end of 1914, indicated thus in the Great Pyramid, will doubtless be a time of "fiery trial" upon the Church (1 Cor. 3:15) preceding the anarchy of the world, which cannot last long- "Except those days should be shortened there should no flesh be saved." Matt. 24:22" Studies In the Scriptures Series III - Thy Kingdom Come p.364
1914
1914 has been a pivotal date for the Watchtower. The expectations prior to 1914 included it being the end of the Gentile Times, the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all governments, the resurrection, the start of Jesus 1000 year reign and paradise on earth. See 1914 for a in-depth article regarding this date.

1915
In 1912 Russell explained that he did not know how to account for the year 0 between B.C. and A.D. and that the end could be in either 1914 or 1915. The 2520 years of Daniels seven times prophecy extends from 606 to 1915 once the year zero between B.C. and A.D. is removed.

"Then, we were content to say, "606 B.C. seems a well authenticated date for the destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar, and B.C. 536 the date when the seventy years' appointed desolation of the land ceased." …
As to the methods of counting, Encyclopaedia Britannica says, "Astronomers denote the year which preceded the first of our era as 0 and the year previous to that as B.C. 1-the previous year B.C. 2, and so on."

Whichever of these ways we undertake to calculate the matter the difference between the results is one year. The seventy years of Jewish captivity ended October, 536 B.C., and if there were 536-1/4 years B.C., then to complete the 2,520 years' cycle of the Times of the Gentiles would require 1913-3/4 years of A.D., or to October, 1914. But if the other way of reckoning were used, then there were but 535-1/4 years of the period B.C., and the remainder of the 2,520 years would reach to A.D., 1914-3/4 years, otherwise October, 1915.

Since this question is agitating the minds of a considerable number of the friends, we have presented it here in some detail. We remind the readers, however, that nothing in the Scriptures says definitely that the trouble upon the Gentiles will be accomplished before the close of the Times of the Gentiles, whether that be October, 1914, or October, 1915. The trouble doubtless will be considerable before the final crash, even though that crash come suddenly, like the casting of a great millstone into the sea. (Rev. 18:21.) The parallel between the Jewish Harvest and the present Harvest would corroborate the thought that the trouble to the full will be accomplished by October, 1915." Watch Tower 1912 Dec 1 pp. 377-8
With the outbreak of World War One in August 1914, Russell reconfirmed that the end would be October 1914. When nothing happened in October 1914 Russell reused the idea that 1915 would signal the end.

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D. 1915. ...

Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced. ...

The "Gentile Times" prove that the present governments must all be overturned about the close of 1915 A.D." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. pp.99, 101, 242
1915 was to herald the end of worldly government and the reestablishment of Palestine.

"Be that as it may, there is evidence that the establishment of the Kingdom in Palestine will probably be in 1925, ten years later than we once calculated." Studies In the Scriptures Series VII - The Finished Mystery p.128
When nothing happened in 1915 the Watchtower went back to using 1914.

It was not until 1943 that the Watchtower Society explained once more that there is no year zero. However this time they did not use 1915 as Russell had done when acknowledging his mistake. The Watchtower decided to retain 1914, and was able to do so by changing the date for the destruction of Jerusalem from 606 B.C. to 607 B.C.

"Providentially, those Bible Students had not realized that there is no zero year between "B.C." and "A.D." Later, when research made it necessary to adjust B.C. 606 to 607 B.C.E., the zero year was also eliminated, so that the prediction held good at "A.D. 1914."-See "The Truth Shall Make You Free," published by the Watch Tower Society in 1943, page 239." Revelation - Its Grand Climax at Hand! p. 105
Since it was prior to 1914 that Russell and the Bible Students identified there was "no year zero," the above comment is dishonest. The year zero was not removed because research led to 607 B.C., but rather the elimination of the year zero led to moving from 606 B.C to 607 B.C.

The Society changed history with the stroke of a pen, however neither 607 B.C. nor 606 B.C. is correct. All historical evidence shows that Jerusalem fell in 587 B.C. an understanding that undermines the entire basis for 1914.

1917
The first printing of Studies In the Scriptures Series VII - The Finished Mystery was June 1917, in which the end of World War One was predicted for October 1st, 1917. Subsequent printings retrospectively stated the war ended 1918.

p.268
75,000 edition "Is not yet come.- But is due to make its appearance with the close of the war, some time about October 1st, 1917. (See comments on Rev. 16:17-21; Ex. 10:23.)" Click here for scan
2,604,000 edition "Is not yet come. - But is due to make its appearance after the close of the war, probably early in the year 1918. (See comments on Rev. 16:17-21; Ex. 10:23.)" Click here for scan
1918
It did not take long for the extension of the chronology following the failure of the end to come in 1914. In 1916, Rutherford predicted the "harvest work" would end in 1918, with the destruction of all religion. It also became the year that the resurrection for the heavenly ones was to start.

"Incidentally we remark that some historians put the end of the Jewish Time of Trouble as April A.D. 73, which would correspond to April 1918." Watch Tower 1916 Sep 1 p.265
"The parallel, therefore, would establish definitely that the harvest would close forty years thereafter; to wit, in the spring of A.D. 1918. If this be true, and the evidence is very conclusive that it is true, then we have only a few months in which to labor before the great night settles down when no man can work." Watch Tower Oct 1 1917 p.292,293
"That the harvest began in 1878, there is ample and convincing proof. The end of the harvest is due in the spring of 1918." Watch Tower May 1 1918 p.132
This was covered in detail with the release of the last book of Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery.

"The data presented in comments on Rev. 2:1 prove that the conquest of Judea was not completed until the day of the Passover, A.D. 73, and in the light of the foregoing Scriptures, prove that the Spring of 1918 will bring upon Christendom a spasm of anguish greater even than that experienced in the Fall of 1914. Reexamine the table of the Parallel Dispensations in STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, Vol. 2, pages 246 and 247; change the 37 to 40, 70 to 73, and 1914 to 1918, and we believe it is correct and will be fulfilled ‘with great power and glory.’ (Mark 13:26)" p.62

"The awakening of the sleeping saints, A. D. 1878, was just half way (three and one-half years each way) between the beginning of the Times of Restitution in 1874 and the close of the High Calling in 1881. Our proposition is that the glorification of the Little Flock in the Spring of 1918 A. D. will be half way (three and one-half years each way) between the close of the Gentile Times and the close of the Heavenly Way, A. D. 1921." p.64

"It seems conclusive that the hour of Nominal Zion’s travail is fixed for the Passover of 1918. (See Rev. 3:14.) That will be 7 years prior to 1925. At that time there is every reason to believe the fallen angels will invade the minds of many of the Nominal Church people, driving them to exceedingly unwise conduct and leading to their destruction at the hands of the enraged masses, who will later be dragged to the same fate." p.128

"Brother Russell put the question to three prominent brethren, all of whom replied that they did not know, but were willing to wait and see. When he called upon me I said, ‘Since the year 73 A.D. saw the complete overthrow of nominal Natural Israel in Palestine, so in the parallel year 1918, I infer we should look for the complete overthrow of nominal Spiritual Israel; i.e., the fall of Babylon.’ (Rev.18.) Brother Russell replied; ‘Exactly. That is exactly the inference to draw.’ The conclusion of the Church’s career comes first. (Rev. 3:14.)" p.129

"The people who are the strength of Christendom shall be cut off in the brief but terribly eventful period beginning in 1918 A.D. A third part are 'burned with fire in the midst of the city.' Fire symbolizes destruction. One large part of the adherents of ecclesiasticism will die from pestilence and famine. (Deut. 32:24.) After 1918 the people supporting churchianity will cease to be its supporters, be destroyed as adherents, by the spiritual pestilence of errors abroad, and by the famine of the Word of God among them. The Sword of the Spirit (Eph. 6:17), which is the Word of God, will be wielded in the hands of 'Present Truth' believers in such a manner as to cause conscientious supporters of ecclesiasticism to cease to be supporters." pp.398-399

"Also, in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by millions, it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of ‘Christianity.’" p.485
The Finished Mystery was heralded as further proof that the end of the harvest was nigh, and the heavenly class were due to be called beyond "the veil".

"It is with sincere joy that we are privileged to report that amongst the activities of the WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY for 1917 the Seventh Volume of STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES has been published and is now going forth. We count this as another one of the strong proofs that the harvest is nearing the end, and that in all probability the Spring of 1918 will mark the beginning of the closing up of all activities of the kingdom class on this side the veil." Watch Tower Dec 15 1917 pp.373-374
A later quote claims that though these predictions were wrong, the dates were correct. That too has turned out to be wrong, since 1925 no longer holds significance to Jehovah's Witnesses.

There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah’s faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1914, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time. Later the faithful learned that these dates were definitely fixed in the Scriptures; and they also learned to quit fixing dates for the future and predicting what would come to pass on a certain date. Vindication I (1931) pp.338-339
1920
1920 was another of Rutherford's foretold ends for Christendom and all government. Notice how this prediction was changed between the 1918 and 1926 edition of Studies In the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery

p.179
1918 ed. We anticipate that the "earthquake" will occur early in 1918, and that the "fire" will come in the fall of 1920.
1926 ed. We anticipate that the "earthquake" will occur early in 1918, and that the "fire" will follow in due course.

p.258
1918 ed. Even the republics will disappear in the fall of 1920. The three days In which Pharaoh's host pursued the Israelites into the wilderness represent the three years from 1917 to 1920 at which time all of Pharaoh's messengers will be swallowed up in the sea of anarchy.
1926 ed. Even the republics will disappear in the time of anarchy. The three days in which Pharaoh's host pursued the Israelites into the wilderness may represent the three years preceding the time of anarchy at which time all of Pharaoh's messengers will be swallowed up in the sea of angry humanity.

p.313
1918 ed. The masses of mankind, not under religious restraint - the condition of the whole world in the time of anarchy due in its full severity in the fall of 1920.
1926 ed. The masses of mankind, not under religious restraint - the condition of the whole world in the time of anarchy due in its full severity in the end of the time of trouble.

p.542
1918 ed. "As the fleshly-minded apostates from Christianity, aiding with the radicals and revolutionaries, will rejoice at the inheritance of desolation that will be Christendom's after 1918, so will God do to the successful revolutionary movement; it shall be utterly desolated, "even all of it" Not one vestige of it shall survive the ravages of world-wide all-embracing anarchy, in the fall of 1920."
1926 ed. "As the fleshly-minded apostates from Christianity, siding with the radicals and revolutionaries, will rejoice at the inheritance of desolation that will be Christendom's after 1918, so will God do to the successful revolutionary movement; it shall be utterly desolated, "even all of it." Not one vestige of it shall survive the ravages of world-wide all-embracing anarchy, in the end of the time of trouble."
1921
Finished Mystery page 64
1921 was another foretold closing of the calling and for the 144,000 to go to heaven. Rutherford drew on a string of interesting prophetic reasoning's that the Watchtower no longer refers to, such as 'half way' signs.

"This confirms the hope of the Church's glorification forty years (a year for a day) after the awakening of the sleeping saints in the Spring of 1878. The Seventh-days before the Deluge may represent seven years, from 1914 to 1921, in the midst of which "week of years' the last members of the Messiah pass beyond the veil. Our proposition is that the glorification of the Little Flock in the Spring of 1918 A.D. will be halfway between the close of the Gentile Times and the close of the heavenly way, A.D. 1921." Studies In the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery p.64
The half way signs in the article above went on the include;

Abrahamic covenant 2045 B.C. was half way between Adam 4127 B.C. and Cornelius 36 A.D.
Last typical jubilee 626 B.C. was half way between end of Adam's day 3127 B.C. and 1914 A.D.
Captivity 606 B.C. was half way between fall of man 4127 B.C. and full restoration 2914 A.D.
Christs death 33 A.D. was half way between his baptism and the conversion of Cornelius
Awakening of the Saints 1878 was half way between 1874 and the close of the calling in 1881.
It is mind boggling to see the number of teachings Rutherford presented, some from Russell and some of his own, that he later changed. Could Rutherford have really believed that the Angels directed him to write such a string of mistakes?

1925
1925 was a date set by Rutherford for the commencement of the earthly paradise and the resurrection onto earth of people such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. See 1925 for a full discussion on Watchtower expectations for this date.

1932
Another date for the destruction of Christendom, apparently promoted within the congregations by elders.

"They [elected elders] had preached that in an early time God would overthrow "Christendom". Many had emphasized the year 1925 as the date, and then when that date did not materialize the date was moved up to 1932. Again, 1932 came and "Christendom" was not destroyed.... Because men tried to fix the date when God would destroy modern Nineveh and God did not back up their prophecy... is that any reason to be peeved?" Watchtower 1938 Feb 15 p.55
1935 - Sealing of the Anointed
With the progression of time obscure Watchtower interpretation relating to the 1700's, 1800's and 1900's fade into irrelevance. These are thrust aside, relegated to obscurity and replaced with new date concepts more palatable to current generations.

A noteworthy example is the date for the sealing of the 144,000, a date constantly changed. Russell originally set it as being 1878. This was moved to 1881, 1910, 1914, 1925, 1931 and finally 1935. In 2007 it has admitted as unknown.

The Watchtower 1933 Nov 15 p.343 explained the parable of Matthew 20:1-16 related to the 12 years from 1919 to 1931 and hence the close of the sealing. "Let God be True" 1946 ed. p.298 also discussed 1931 as closing the sealing. (See Watchtower 2007 May 1 pp.30-31)

In 1966 this was reassigned to coincide with the introduction of the Great Crowd doctrine in 1935. From that time forward it was presented as gospel that the sealing concluded in 1935, such as in the following article. This is despite no Scriptural reasoning to support the 1935 date, or any other date for that matter.

"Logically, the calling of the little flock would draw to a close when the number was nearing completion, and the evidence is that the general gathering of these specially blessed ones ended in 1935." Watchtower 1995 Feb 15 p.19
Exactly what 'evidence' is that? Apparently none, as admitted in 2007.

"Thus it appears that we can not set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends." Watchtower 2007 May 1 p.31
There are a number of likely contributors to this admission. By the year 2005 1935 was 70 years prior, somewhat of an irrelevant embarrassment. Even the Governing Body contained few born prior to 1935. Of utmost importance to Watchtower doctrine is the concept that the Great Crowd must obey the direction of the Anointed. In order to be identified as sheep rather than goats and saved at Armageddon they must have demonstrated good works towards the Anointed. With few new admissions to this class eventually who would be left for the Great Crowd to follow. Furthermore, from around 1980 the number of memorial partakers was no longer declining, stable at around 8,000 people.

1940's
As Rutherford was approaching his final years he wrote ever more directly that the end was about to happen. Though not stating a particular year he was adamant that the end was about to occur, prompting the release of articles including topics on why marriage and child bearing should be put off until after Armageddon. In 1941 the book Children was released discussing such things. The Watchtower summed up the atmosphere after release of the book;

"Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." Watchtower 1941 Sep 15 p.288
1951
Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D, 37 years after Jesus death. In 1950 Watchtower articles made comparison to this. In 1951 it was stated we are 37 years into the ""time of the end" of Satan's world", hinting that it could be the end of the world.

"More proof that such system had ended was given thirty-seven years later when the Jewish priests were forcibly deprived of their sacrificial work by the destruction of their typical temple, which has continued unrestored till this very day. Today, after more than thirty years of similar harvest work, how well we see prefigured in that Jewish harvesting and threshing what is in progress in Christendom today! When we call to mind the horrible end that came upon the Jewish capital and its besieged inhabitants back there, we shudder at the more terrible end that is shortly to come upon hypocritical Christendom and its confusion of religions." Watchtower 1950 Nov 1 pp.407-408
"The instruction these examples of divine help contain should not now be lost upon us. They were recorded for the benefit of God's people now "upon whom the accomplished ends of the systems of things have arrived". (1 Cor. 10:11, NW) Counting from the end of the "appointed times of the nations" in 1914, we are 37 years into the "time of the end" of this world." Watchtower 1951 Mar 15 p.179
"WHEREAS the "appointed times of the nations" ended in 1914, it is now 37 years that we have been in the "time of the end" of Satan's world. (Dan. 12:4; 11:40) During all this time Jehovah's witnesses have become increasingly active and prominent. Why? Who commissioned them and gave them their message? Has their witness accomplished its purpose after all these years? Or must it be classed as a failure? All this was answered in Isaiah's vision at the temple." Watchtower 1951 Apr 1 p.214
In 1952 this 37 year concept was abandoned. Rather the idea of a 'generation' was discussed.

"The Bible does speak of a man's days as being threescore and ten or fourscore years; but it assigns no specific number of years to a generation.-Ps. 90:10." Watchtower 1952 Sep 1 pp.542-543
Even if it did, we could not calculate from such a figure the date of Armageddon, for the texts here under discussion do not say God's battle comes right at the end of this generation, but before its end. To try to say how many years before its end would be speculative. The texts merely set a limit that is sufficiently definite for all present practical purposes. Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon. All the events will come within the span of a generation. There are hundreds of millions of persons living now that were living in 1914, and many millions of these persons could yet live a score or more years. Just when the lives of the majority of them will be cut short by Armageddon we cannot say."

The "generation" concept is another doctrine that has had to go through numerous revisions. In 1995 it was extended to be able to include several generations of people, no longer just those "living A.D. 1914". In 2010, it was changed to an "overlapping" generation, which extends it to two full lifetimes from 1914; potentially as far as the year 2114.

1975
It was implied that the end would occur in 1975, since this was 6,000 years from the creation of Adam. See 1975 for a full discussion of this date.

1980
1980 was said to potentially be the year that the Jews are resurrected, based on it being a 70 year period from Russell's 1910 lecture to the Jews.

"It is possible that A. D. 1980 may have something of special interest for Fleshly Israel, but certainly not for us. It is 70 years beyond 1910, the date when Pastor Russell gave his great witness to the Jewish people in the New York Hippodrome." Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery p.62
"The date 1980, mentioned on pages 61, 62, [of The Finished Mystery] probably marks the regathering of all of Fleshly Israel from their captivity in death." The Parable of the Penny p.6
1986
1986 was the United Nations year of peace. This was an exciting time for Witnesses, due to the implication that it could be the 'cry of peace and security' that precedes Armageddon, something I remember discussing at great lengths.

"Yet one more event will come as an unmistakable signal that world destruction is imminent. Of this the apostle Paul wrote: "Jehovah's day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. Whenever it is that they are saying: 'Peace and security!' then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them . . . and they will by no means escape."-1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3; Luke 21:34, 35. The world's leaders know that a nuclear war means virtual extinction. Also, critical problems such as pollution, the population explosion, and domestic problems demand attention and money. So they want to relax the strained international relations. An evidence of this is the proclamation by the United Nations of 1986 as the 'international year of peace and security.' This, no doubt, is a step toward the fulfillment of Paul's above-quoted words." True Peace and Security - How Can You Find It? (1986) p.85 When Will the Foretold World Destruction Come?
2000
2000 was not stated to be the end, but there was strong indication that it would be impossible for Armageddon not to come before 2000.

"And if the wicked system of this world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable in view of world trends and the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, there would still be survivors of the World War I generation." Watchtower 1980 Oct 15 p.31
"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216
"Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!" Watchtower 1984 Mar 1 pp.18-19
"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century". Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12.
The 1989 Watchtower used the term "in our 20th century" in the magazine, but this was changed to "in our day" for the bound volume and subsequent CD library. Click on the thumbnails to compare the magazine version to the bound volume.

watchtower January 1 1989 magazine - in our 20th century watchtower January 1 1989 bound volume - in our day

I pioneered during the late 1980's and was strongly influenced by the statements in the 1980's articles. I told my Bible studies and many people when preaching that it would be almost impossible that the end would not have arrived by the year 2000.

2033
2033 is not a changed date but shows the attitude of serving to a date still seems to exist within the Organization. In 2003 a concept was touched upon, with attention being draw to the fact that Noah's last days went for 120 years.

In Noah's day, Jehovah declared: "My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring "the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens."-Genesis 6:17. Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance, and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival. "After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld," says the apostle Paul, "[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household." (Hebrews 11:7) What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in "the time of the end." (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given? "He that does the will of God remains forever," states the Bible. (1 John 2:17) Now is therefore the time to do Jehovah's will with a keen sense of urgency." Watchtower 2003 Dec 15 p.15 "Warned of "Things Not Yet Beheld"
There is no specific statement in the article that the end must come by the end of 120 years or exactly on the 120th year. However, like with 1975, a parallel is drawn to yet another concept that is supposed to indicate that the end is soon to be upon us.

Knowing what has been written in the pages of the Watchtower in regards to Armageddon's arrival at many different years in the past how can anyone trust the Society after reading a quote like the following?

"A real champion of God's Word, the Holy Bible, and of God's kingdom that will restore God's rightful place in the hearts of men is The Watchtower. For ninety years this faithful journal has been pointing forward to this very time, urging people to turn to the Bible because of the spiritual famine that the Bible itself foretold was to come in our generation." Awake! 1970 Jan 8 p.32
An aware Watchtower reader cannot help but see the irony in the following statement.

"Down through the centuries since Jesus’ day, so many unfulfilled predictions have been made that many no longer take them seriously. … Undeterred by previous failures, some seem to have been spurred on by the approach of the year 2000 and have made further predictions of the end of the world. … The flood of false alarms is unfortunate. They are like the wolf-wolf cries of the shepherd boy — people soon dismiss them, and when the true warning comes, it too is ignored." Awake 1993 Mar 22 3-4 Why So Many False Alarms?
It is sad to see how the Watchtower accounts for the wrong predictions of the past. Rather than accepting responsibility, subtle wording deflects the fault to the members.

"Out of zeal and enthusiasm for the vindication of Jehovah's name, Word and purposes, and the desire for the new system, some of his servants have at times been premature in their expectations." Watchtower 1979 Jul 1 p.29 How Jehovah Guides His People
It is an interesting attitude that the Governing Body shows towards its followers. It appears to feel that people will not serve Jehovah if the do not think he is about to shortly reward them with paradise; that if there is no urgency and no date to work for and pin hopes on, then people will drift away. This is an insult to individual motives. Many Churches are undergoing great growth without any such date as motivation. People have served God for generations based purely on the concept that they will see him in heaven at the end of their earthly life. Seventh-day Adventists follow the Witness concept of this being the last days; yet they have reached similar numbers of people sharing similar morals not based on working to a date but knowing that the time left is short and love of God is what is of primary importance.

Ongoing Date Implications
Watchtower incorrectly promoted teachings on the following dates that they no longer accept:

539 A.D.
1780
1798
1799
1829
1840
1844
1846
1872
1874
1878
1880
1881
1891
1906
1910
1914
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1918
1920
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1925
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1932
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1951
1975
2000
Despite being known for their failed predictions of Armageddon, Watchtower does not hold back from criticising other religions that do the same.

"RELIGIOUS LEADERS sometimes predict tragic worldwide events to warn mankind and gather followers. Doomsday prophet Harold Camping and his disciples widely advertised that the earth would be destroyed in 2011. Needless to say, the world is still here." Watchtower 2014 May 1 p.3
Watchtower history is based around the doomsday message that the end is about to come. Statements abound such as in the 1930's book The New World;

"The Scriptures give good reason to believe that it shall be shortly before Armageddon breaks."
Toward the end of the twentieth century, the Watchtower Society refrained from issuing specific dates for Armageddon, but still has not stopped implying dates and time frames.

Luke warned about those whose message is that the "due time has approached."

"He said: "Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'I am he,' and, 'The due time has approached.' Do not go after them." Luke 21:8
Moses warned against those that make predictions in the name of Jehovah that do not come true.

"And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak..." Deuteronomy 18:20-22
The Watchtower says that the standard by which to judge a false messenger is whether their messages "come true."

"Jehovah is the Grand identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers." Watchtower 1997 May 1 p.8
Ironic, considering the Watchtower specifically said the end would come in 1914 and then 1925. This section demonstrated over 20 "messages" promoted by the Watchtower for decades that turned out not to be "true." What does this prove about them as messengers and prophets ?

Footnote
Watchtower articles sometimes present two different years for the same event. On occassion, this has been because Watchtower originally erroneously included a year "zero" in prophetic calculations and rectified some calculations by extending dates by one year. Another reason is when Watchtower applies October as the start of the year for Biblical prophecy, such that their prophetic fulfilment span two years.

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Written Aug 2008, latest update Jan 2019.

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