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An Incorruptible Seed

1 Peter 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever.

Let us speak about incorruptibility. None of us have every known incorruptibility, we have heard of it, mostly from our bibles, we accept that God and Christ are incorruptible.

Subsequently, it’s not a daily discussion not even among Christian’s, for the most of us it’s a concept that we give little or no thought about; we have a general explanation that satisfies our thinking.

However, incorruptibility is a big deal, its such a big deal that without it those born again cannot overcome this world.

1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: your faith.

1 John 5:5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?


Nothing of this world over comes the world.

That is a true statement the world cannot overcome the world ( supra), no more so than water can overcome water or yeast over come yeast! We must as Christian’s overcome this world. In fact, we must conquer it according to Christ!

Revelation 6:2 And behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow. A crown was given to him, and he came forth conquering, and to conquer.

But if we are the same substance as the world, than we have no power to over come the world, the illusion we have been taught is that we can conquer the world by laws of God. But lets make this point clear from the outset of this writing that thought is a lie! If it were true, God would not have needed to send us his Son Christ Jesus to overcome this world and complete the Law of God he gave to Israel.

Roman.10:4 For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.


Corruption is Converse to In-corruption

We must understand as God’s children as Christian’s, which meaning our being “in Christ” belonging too his ownership purchased from this earth for God’s glory, like a husband and wife, a woman being one with her husband as one flesh before God, thus, the children of God are one in Spirit with Christ as their headship purchased by Christ Jesus blood through power of God’s grace towards us.

1 Peter 4:11 If anyone speaks, let it be as it were the very words of God. If anyone serves, let it be as of the strength which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

Romans 1:6 among whom you are also called to belong to Jesus Christ;

Galatians 5:24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

Christian’s must remember all of this world has been created not by the incorrigible God YHWH but by corruption from sin, including us from Adam’s sin (not here referring to the new creation, but old). All are perishing in corruption from sin that leads to our physical death, and all mankind.

2 Peter 1:4 by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

Lets use an example to illustrate the power of incorruptible Vs corruption. If there were somewhere on earth a box containing God’s incorruptible life; what would happen if a corruptible life came in contact with that box?

The corruptible life would perish as much as darkness coming into contact with light perishes, the two do not co-exist they are converse, opposed to each other.

John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son,{NU reads "God"} who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.

1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God remains in us, and his love has been perfected in us.


In other words, they are two different substance like human are to the gases of our sun. We are not able to take a manned space ship into the gases of the Sun without perishing, not unless we change our space ship and ourselves into a gases that will not be consumed by our Sun’s heat.

Two Worlds & Two Substances

Many Christian’s finds the truth of two substance, two worlds offensive because they want to make their own corruptible building in this world into God’s incorruptible world.

John 3:31 He who comes from above is above all. He who is from the Earth belongs to the Earth, and speaks of the Earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.

John 8:23 He said to them, "You are from beneath. I am from above. You are of this world. I am not of this world.

John 19:11 Jesus answered, "You would have no power at all against me, unless it were given to you from above. Therefore he who delivered me to you has greater sin."

This world and all its desires are passing away, each day people that thought they had a long time on this earth and have worked to make a lasting legacy face reality their world has perished, their thoughts have perished, their love, their hate, their jealousy, and ambitions have perished and they will never, no more be under the Sun of our earth there thoughts and works on earth are everlastingly gone.

Ecclesiastes 9:6 Also their love, their hatred, and their envy has perished long ago; neither have they any more a portion forever in anything that is done under the sun.

Conversely, God world where he lives and exist, his world has not one thought of our sinful flesh dwelling in him. Imagine that? Not one lie, not one brag, no competition, not one evil, not one sinful person. No human can see God that will not perish in their own corruption. Nothing in God perishes, nothing.

THE LIE!

God is not, now listen to this truth which is often the first time many Christian have every given it a thought? God is not reforming corruption into incorporation, God is not lacking one thing good in his world or in himself, he needs nothing from mankind's or their world to improve upon perfection of incorruptibility, that is why, God cannot change or corrupt, rather it is human’s that do, not God or what he creates without sin.

In other words, the old motto that “I am working on improving, or trying to find myself making changes one day at a time. Those thoughts don’t exist with God, those thought would perish in the present of God’s glory!

So the idea that God is lessening himself into our humanness and weakness to slowly lift us up is a lie. God cannot mix light into darkness meaning incorruptibility, cannot, cannot mix, lessen itself to something other lower than incorruptibility or its is not incorruptibility at all!

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Don't be unequally yoked with unbelievers, for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

God must help the weaker, not the other way around, it is mankind’s world that lacks in everything good and righteous, mankind’s world is subjected to futility which means vanity, and what is vanity it is unreality of self-style importance that flatters us with untruth.

Rom.8:19 For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.
8:20 For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but because of him who subjected it, in hope
8:21 that the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of decay into the liberty of the glory of the children of God.

In other words, as much slander, lies, corruption and propaganda that human’s and wicked spirit force say about God none of it matters it all perishes by his incorruptibility. Not one genius, the greatest inventions of humankind, or the destruction of our earth physically or morally effects incorruptibility. Mankind, and wicked spirit force in heavenly place effect each other and themselves bring us and the world into more corruption but never, no not once God’s incorruptibility!

That is why our life is vanity nothing we do or work for is incorruptible accept in our delusional mind filled with false religion or teachings by other humans dead to God.

Isa.40:6 The voice of one saying, "Cry!" One said, "What shall I cry?" "All flesh is like grass, and all its glory is like the flower of the field.
40:7 The grass withers, the flower fades, because Yahweh's breath blows on it. Surely the people are like grass.
40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades; but the word of our God stands forever."

One Fountain of Life!

There is only one foundation of life, there is only one that is good there is only one source of life, which means in context to God’s word the bible the source of life means the source that feed us life so we can stay a live forever. What it does not mean is to live forever in our human sin under corruption that is past on to all of us by our father and mother nor some source of life mankind thinks its created or a new drug curing some fatal disease.

Life is not death to God he is never in darkness, or has a lack of life in him. Death to God is all human dying from sin, they are all dead to him. God is the source of life for us to live eternally we must live within his world, not ours or some world religion, government or commerce dying under darkness of humans sin that human’s have built.

1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: your faith.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, isn't the Father's, but is the world's.

1 John 2:17 The world is passing away with its lusts, but he who does God's will remains forever.

NEW IS NEW OLD IS OLD

God is not recreating old into new, God is not adding to his incorruption that is a human thought under sin that can’t know God because we are subjected to vanity of human pride thinking we believe we are far more important in this universe than we really are. God is complete not lacking anything good, he is good alone, he is all things, there nothing beyond the perfection of his prettiness mankind is able to add too God’s life.

Luke 18:19 Jesus asked him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good, except one--God.

Our world is an illusion of life, it is not close to the real life God wants us to have, nothing of this world thoughts, feeling and desires will be found in God NEW WORLD for mankind.

Revelation 21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more.

Revelation 21:5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words of God are faithful and true."

Revelation 21:4 He will wipe away from them every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away."

New is not old not even in our world, what is new is new, and what is old is old. God said, he, has promised, which means those words cannot be corrupted accept in our own hearts by our own corruption, but not God’s Words that states without a lie he has creating a new heavens and new earth, but why?

Because corruption cannot inherit incorruption it is impossible for that to happen as it is for incorruption to lie! God does not drag the corruption of death into life. No! God defeats death by his incorruption which means perfect light. God does not need death to be incorruptible nor does he need to understand the pain and sorrows of death.

Luke 20:38 Now he is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for all are alive to him."

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who can't lie, promised before time began;

Now please let us think? In a new word there will be no pain or sorry it will not be recalled, it will not be remember to gain some insight into humanity once under sin. No it simple will not exist or come up into our hearts or minds of human living in a new heavens or world!

Those are but human thoughts under the sickness of death dying in darkness that believes the more you understand about corruption of death and sin the better you can battle it.

God does not understand death he is light, God does not need improvement, those are human terms under death and sin. God conquers the corruption with life, light, and the blood of Christ setting creation free by the suffering of his children on earth.

Rom.8:17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ; if indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him.
8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which will be revealed toward us.
8:19 For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

We Must be Made New

The ways of this world are not of God’s or in his thinking, it is in us mankind and confused us further when reading God’s word and applying it to our world created from corruption that only leads to more corruption by our yeast thoughts coming from darkness of sin in our members.

The book of James

Chapter 4

4:1 Where do wars and fightings among you come from? Don't they come from your pleasures that war in your members?
4:2 You lust, and don't have. You kill, covet, and can't obtain. You fight and make war. You don't have, because you don't ask.
4:3 You ask, and don't receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it for your pleasures.
4:4 You adulterers and adulteresses, don't you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
4:5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, "The Spirit who lives in us yearns jealously"?
4:6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."{Proverbs 3:34}

There is a body of death in our world it is in darkness where all are dying from corruption of sin. There is also a body of life, God’s new creation in Christ Jesus where all are given the waters of life by God the eternal source of life through Christ Jesus.

Revelation 22:1 He showed me a{TR adds "pure"} river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb,

Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.

But there is nothing in between light and darkness accept the lies of shadowy death and the lurking place of demons. All of us not by choice were born into a world of death by the will of human power past onto by Adam. However, we cannot have a new life in Christ by any human power because all human power is found in death and darkness it has no power with God, because he is light, incorruption so our power under sin must perish!

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those whose sins weren't like Adam's disobedience, who is a foreshadowing of him who was to come.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Romans 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

We gain life by life, and light by light, and new by what is new!

God must birth his children by his incorruptible seed, what is God’s incorruptible seed, it is the person of Jesus Christ. Christ died in our sins to take away our sins once for all times.

Christ than was made into the a Spirit being, and/or the image of incorruptible God YHWH; Christ being the first and only person in the history of God’s creation to receive the crown of incorrigibility.


Heb.1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds.
1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
1:4 having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have.

With that gift he is fit for rulership over all God’s creation because like his Father Jehovah he cannot be corrupted, it is impossible! Like the Father he lacks nothing he is complete, he has power that will be exercised in perfect harmony with God who is love, would created or is the only perfect law of love.

Rom. 13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.
13:9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet,"{TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"}{Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21} and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."{Leviticus 19:18}
13:10 Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

Christ will bring the fallen human race back to God’s perfect standards of love as our new father replacing Adam, but without sin.

Conquering The World

The world cannot be conquer by the world we conquer this world by the power of an incorruptible seed, that is, Jesus Christ in us. It requires a birthing from God where he plants Christ Jesus incorruptible life/seed in us.

Galatians 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He doesn't say, "To seeds," as of many, but as of one, "To your seed,"{Genesis 12:7; 13:15; 24:7} which is Christ.

That taste of incorruptible Spirit life is the witnesses of the power of Christ life that overcomes all things of this world. Christ own life’s immorality becomes our truth, and our Spirit that create us in Christ Jesus image that has defeated this world. Christ defeat death once for all times by his resurrection into incorruption. He conquered what holds this world in bondage, which is sin, leading to death in darkness.

Rev.1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet like a dead man. He laid his right hand on me, saying, "Don't be afraid. I am the first and the last,
1:18 and the Living one. I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. I have the keys of Death and of Hades{or, Hell}.

Those given the seed of incorruptibility are pattern after what Christ Jesus experience on this earth they are hated and opposed by all in this world because they stand as destruction to Satan world alienated from God.

Ephesians 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Having the seed of righteousness which is Christ Jesus in them by the will of God and not man Christ Jesus then is our righteousness by our being made apart of his righteous body which light is hated by this world of darkness make our life no cake walk and neither is it an illusion of unreality it is a war against the wicked spirit being that hate the pure light of God, the light that destroys them and this world they have built through willing human that lust for the same pleasure of sin as they do the god of this system of things!

John 12:40 "He has blinded their eyes and he hardened their heart, lest they should see with their eyes, and perceive with their heart, and would turn, and I would heal them."{Isaiah 6:10}

2 Corinthians 4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

Heb.3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Jesus;
3:2 who was faithful to him who appointed him, as also was Moses in all his house.
3:3 For he has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who built the house has more honor than the house.
3:4 For every house is built by someone; but he who built all things is God.
3:5 Moses indeed was faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were afterward to be spoken,
3:6 but Christ is faithful as a Son over his house; whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the glorying of our hope firm to the end.
3:7 Therefore, even as the Holy Spirit says, "Today if you will hear his voice,

2 Timothy 1:13 Hold the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Hebrews 8:5 who serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things, even as Moses was warned by God when he was about to make the tabernacle, for he said, "See, you shall make everything according to the pattern that was shown to you on the mountain."{Exodus 25:40}


Completed: May 29, 2022

by: Daniel a Slave in Christ Jesus

May 29, 2022 | Registered CommenterJWsStraightTalk