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NEW IS THE POINT!

Revelation 21:5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words of God are faithful and true."

Is God YHWH making all things new or is he reforming what is old into something new?
Matthew 9:17 Neither do people put new wine into old wineskins, or else the skins would burst, and the wine be spilled, and the skins ruined. No, they put new wine into fresh wineskins, and both are preserved."

Really that is the point of the whole bible, it is the message of the entire bible, but have we missed this critical point?
1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.
Are we Christian trying to reform ourselves into something new? Moreover, can old even be made new, and more importantly is our new God’s own standard of new?
1 Peter 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you--not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

What if we were told we could work on ourselves for a life time and not be new according to God’s own word the bible?
The simple truth is, God is making all things new for us human’s, humans cannot make all thing new. Thus, it is incumbent upon us to seek God’s mind out on this all important subject.

WHAT IS OLD TO GOD?
God’s creation lost its newness when sin entered into this world. Lets make this clear, darkness is old, sin is old which is defined for us by God’s mind found in his written word.
2 Peter 3:13 But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
The world, not the physical earth, that is, the world that Satan and humans created after sin enter into our world is old, dying, corrupting, decaying to God.

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
Whereas God’s world for humans are always new, that is, there are no tears, sorrow, pain, suffering, or death! And that is the point my friend.
Rev. 21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more.
21:2 I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready like a bride adorned for her husband.
21:3 I heard a loud voice out of heaven saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with people, and he will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God.
21:4 He will wipe away from them every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away."
God is contrasting for us humans in darkness of sin, and in an old dying world His brightest of light vs. Darkness, that is, there in no darkness in the light of God and that is the message all true Christians believe, but why?

1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

NEW CREATION
What is a new creation? Well, first and foremost Jesus Christ was a new creation did you know that? The first new creation was Adam, that is, a man in the flesh created by God in God’s glory, what is God’s glory in this context?

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;
God’s glory is sinless, without sin, without lies, without death, without evil. Once Adam sinned human became all the things God could not become, simply, because God in not corruptible, he is incorruptible.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now I say this, brothers,{The word for "brothers" here and where context allows may also be correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."} that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

2 Peter 1:4 by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

Thus, once Adam sinned, he became darkness, he became the father of all that sinned Adam would pass on through his children, which would be us.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; and so death passed to all men, because all sinned.

Hence, God made a new Adam, a new creation that could not be corrupted and that would be his Son Jesus Christ. Jesus was born a man on this earth through “God’s will”, this is an important point don’t miss it?

1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul."{Genesis 2:7} The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

All the new creation from the new heavens to humans are created not by the will in mankind, that is, from the old Adam’s will under sin that we are born into without choice in the matter.
The new creation is created by God’s will, a sinless will, a perfect will, a will that is light without darkness, that is, without sin!

John.1:12 But as many as received him, to them he gave the right to become God's children, to those who believe in his name:
1:13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

FALSE RELIGION FALSE TEACHINGS
God’s will is the power of his Holy Spirit. In other words, God power from his personal will created the first human’s Adam and Eve. They, as previously stated were a new creation unlike the spirit son’s of God without flesh and bone also created from God’s will.
1 Peter 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever.
John 3:3 Jesus answered him, "Most certainly, I tell you, unless one is born anew,{The word translated "anew" here and in John 3:7 (anothen) also means "again" and "from above".} he can't see the Kingdom of God."

John 3:7 Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born anew.'

Once mankind fell into darkness false religion was created, why? Because in darkness of sin there are only memories of being in the light as a new creation which are old and perishing, decaying into more and more corruption as death stocked both Adam and Eve.
James.1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God can't be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one.
1:14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed.
1:15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.
1:16 Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.
1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.
1:18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.
Pure sinless light can only come from the same, it cannot come from sin and darkness, what comes from sin and darkness is more sin and darkness, not light, light must come from light to expose the darkness.

James.3:8 But nobody can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
3:9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.
3:10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
3:11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?
3:12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water.
3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his deeds are done in gentleness of wisdom.
3:14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, don't boast and don't lie against the truth.
3:15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, and demonic.
3:16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition are, there is confusion and every evil deed.
3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Hence, we have a world wide religion in darkness calling itself light in trying to make sinners better sinners. In other words, selling a lie that old can be reformed into a new creation by human will power!
1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new lump, even as you are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed in our place.

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old yeast, neither with the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Galatians 5:9 A little yeast grows through the whole lump.

The power of this lie deceives all that nations of our earth what we mean by that is? We are not talking about Christianity alone, all religions teach some type of heaven can be reached by reforming our flesh into something new, but all of them do so by human will power.

Luke.13:20 Again he said, "To what shall I compare the Kingdom of God?
13:21 It is like yeast, which a woman took and hid in three measures{literally, three sata. 3 sata is about 39 litres or a bit more than a bushel} of flour, until it was all leavened."

GOD KILLS THE OLD AND CREATES NEW!
The pure form of worship is the new creation that worship with Spirit and truth. Christ Jesus God’s new creation for mankind, was put to death in his flesh and made alive in the Spirit, it that, simple.
John.4:20 Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship."
4:21 Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe me, the hour comes, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, will you worship the Father.
4:22 You worship that which you don't know. We worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.
4:23 But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.

All the new creation must be put to death in their flesh and made alive in the Spirit. This means, new is really new, not half old, and half new.
1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

In other words, Christian’s are in Christ a new creation who is Spirit and the truth of God, Christ is no longer flesh, he is Spirit which God made Christ Jesus into his exact being, that is, incorruptible glory unable to be tempted with evil of sin.

Hebrews. 1:1 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds.
1:3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
1:4 having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have.

Subsequently, born new Christian’s are put to death in Christ Jesus life and born new in Christ having all things new from personality to their hearts.

Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:5 For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will also be part of his resurrection;

Adam once in sin could not by any works good or bad be born new without sin. He could never go back into Eden being he was corrupted, he had no power within himself to be born new, hence, he was at the mercy of God YHWH.

Romans 3:24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus;

Romans 4:4 Now to him who works, the reward is not counted as grace, but as debt.

Romans 4:16 For this cause it is of faith, that it may be according to grace, to the end that the promise may be sure to all the seed, not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all.

Romans 5:2 through whom we also have our access by faith into this grace in which we stand. We rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

GOD’S MERCY GIVEN TO THE DEAD

Adam was dead to God, Adam had no mediator between him and God that could plead his cause, what Adam had was darkness without the light he had died to God although still existing as a human in darkness and dying from his own choices.
Hence, God’s new creation is dead to sin not God. In other words, although they exist in a dead flesh under sin and dying God does not see them in that darkness why?

God who is incorruptible does not deal with dead flesh, he deal with life, he is the God of the living not the dead.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.{NU omits "who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit"}

Romans 8:3 For what the law couldn't do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh;

Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.

Romans 8:8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.

Romans 8:12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Being born new means the new life is in Christ Jesus, which new life is part of his body as members belonging to one another and that is what God deals with because they are created not by their own will but the living will of God.
The old flesh had nothing in it to help it become a new creation. The new creation is God’s will his creation under the power of his love, kindness, discipline, and his spirit direction as its teacher.

Philippians 1:11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

THOUGHTS OF THE NEW CREATION

The thoughts of the new creation are new, they are not corrupted, or does the new dwell upon evil, dying, sickness and death, why not?
It is because there is only one mind in the body of Christ Jesus, not many individual minds, but one incorruptible mind of Jesus Christ as the head of his body, the temple of the living God.
1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?"{Isaiah 40:13} But we have Christ's mind.
2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brothers, rejoice. Be perfected, be comforted, be of the same mind, live in peace, and the God of love and peace will be with you.

Christ Jesus is new, that is, living eternal spirit person that is our light, nothing old, or of this old world created by sin by the father and ruler of this world created in rebellion against God, is in Christ Jesus or his body members. Christ conquered this world, he was given the power over death, defeated the death by sin Adam past on to all human.

Revelation 6:2 And behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow. A crown was given to him, and he came forth conquering, and to conquer.
1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world.
1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: your faith.

1 John 5:5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.


All things in Christ Jesus are new and those words are faithful and true.

First, comes the new creation, that is, in creating man new, the core of all change and eternal life wiping out all death from the universe then comes the power of God’s righteousness upon the earth making a new paradise for new people can live under and in free of darkness and sin.

1Cor.15:21 For since death came by man, the resurrection of the dead also came by man.
15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.
15:23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then those who are Christ's, at his coming.
15:24 Then the end comes, when he will deliver up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he will have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
15:25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
15:26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
15:27 For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet."{Psalm 8:6} But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him.
15:28 When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
15:29 Or else what will they do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead aren't raised at all, why then are they baptized for the dead?

The world has three main branches that work as one to build a world, manage that world, those branch are; Government, Religion and Commerce.

God and his new creation who are not part of any of them, they have been set free in the body of Christ the temple of God, they suffer in their flesh upon this earth as Satan the Devil and wicked spirit force in heavenly place uses all three of these piece to persecute the new creation the brothers of Christ Jesus as they did him.

Matt.25:31 "But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory.
25:32 Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
25:33 He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
25:34 Then the King will tell those on his right hand, 'Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
25:35 for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in.
25:36 I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.'
25:37 "Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink?
25:38 When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you?
25:39 When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?'
25:40 "The King will answer them, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers{The word for "brothers" here may be also correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."}, you did it to me.'
25:41 Then he will say also to those on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels;
25:42 for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink;
25:43 I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.'
25:44 "Then they will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn't help you?'
25:45 "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of the least of these, you didn't do it to me.'
25:46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

New is the point it is the truth of God and it is the everlasting condition all God’s children will live in for eternity to eternity.

The great city made up of the three piece of Government, Religion, and commerce will be hit by a great earthquake dividing it into three unsalable parts.

Revelation 11:8 Their dead bodies will be in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

Revelation 16:19 The great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered in the sight of God, to give to her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.


This earthquake is spiritual but felt physically by the nations and cities of Satan system of things fall into ciaos leading to a great tribulation upon earth finally those nations will misled into a war with the Son of God.

Rev. 16:12 The sixth poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates. Its water was dried up, that the way might be made ready for the kings that come from the sunrise.
16:13 I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits, something like frogs;
16:14 for they are spirits of demons, performing signs; which go forth to the kings of the whole inhabited earth, to gather them together for the war of that great day of God, the Almighty.
16:15 "Behold, I come like a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his clothes, so that he doesn't walk naked, and they see his shame."
16:16 He gathered them together into the place which is called in Hebrew, Megiddo.

Old will be swipe away as during the flood of Noah’s day, but this time by the fiery truth coming from the Lords mouth.

Revelation 19:15 Out of his mouth proceeds a sharp, double-edged sword, that with it he should strike the nations. He will rule them with an iron rod.{Psalm 2:9} He treads the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God, the Almighty.

Revelation 19:21 The rest were killed with the sword of him who sat on the horse, the sword which came forth out of his mouth. All the birds were filled with their flesh.

Revelation 21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more.

Revelation 21:2 I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready like a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 21:5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words of God are faithful and true."

Completed: October 22, 2023
by Daniel a Slave in Christ Jesus

Further Research the Word New

The Two Word Aspects of "New."
Omicron (T. Oliver).
There are two Greek words kainos and neos translated in our New Testament by the word "new." Kainos is new in kind and in contrast to what previously existed, so taking the place thereof. In that sense kainos looks backward, while its synonym neos looks forward. Kainos is equivalent to "not yet having been": neos is "not having long been.

" The conjunction of the two words occurs in . Luke 5:38, where new (neos) wine is put into new (kainos) skins and both are presented. Kainos looks backward (retrospective) in that the skins had never been used befoMatt. 9:17re, opposed to those which had lost their strength and elasticity through age: the new (neos) wine was of that vintage or harvest looking forward (prospective) for future use. In Luke 5:36 a new piece of cloth (kainos) is opposite to old garment. This receives emphasis in Mark 2:21 where the new unmilled piece of cloth was unsuited to patch the old, for even then the new by the grace of God was being wrought out; not for the old garment of a legal system or for the first man, but for those who by virtue of divine power were fitted to receive the blessing. In Matt. 27:60, the new (kainos) tomb had never been made ceremonially unclean by a dead body. It might have been hewn out of the rock years before, therefore it is not called neos. In Heb. 12:24, a new (neos) covenant is fresh and perennially new by virtue of the link with its mediator Jesus, looking forward it will retain eternally that youthful character. While kainos is the word mostly used for New Covenant, neos is the word here, but not in contrast to the old; it is not the old, but what God had recently given.
Kainos is the typical word in the Revelation as in name, song, heaven, Jerusalem, etc., and finally "all things new." The antithesis which kainos bears to the past is in evidence in Rev. 21:1. The new (kainos) heaven and earth supersede the first (protos), again Heb. 8:13, in saying new (kainos) covenant, he has made the first old (protos). On the other hand, neos does not express opposition to what already existed, so in Col. 3:10, having put on the new (neos) man, who is being renewed (anakainoo, compound of kainos), in the character and spirit of the ideal, i.e., according to the image of Him who created him thus excluding and supplanting the old. The compound ananeoo is simply to renew in youth; has nothing to do with the old (Eph. 4:23). Hence the same subject may be kainos or neos: if contemplated under aspects of time as recently given or inaugurated, it is neos: if contemplated as a new and specific kind in contrast to the old as outworn and effete and taking its place, it is kainos. In their derivatives and compounds as above, the same distinction is clear as in 1 Tim. 4:12. "Let no man despise thy youth" (neotees), but (kainotees) newness of life in Rom. 6:4, is newness as being entirely different according to the resurrection life in Christ thus supplanting the other.

October 22, 2023 | Registered CommenterJWsStraightTalk